From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Sun Jan  1 17:50:42 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 17:50:42 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] Meeting this week
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201011747020.14134@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Hi all,

It appears that the agenda script was disabled leading up to this week's 
meeting - can everyone make it this Tuesday night at 5:30? Given our 
financial year just started and semester is approaching, we really need to 
sit down and do a bit of a budget, amongst other things such as organising 
for oday. Let me know via email or irc please and I'll let everyone know 
if the meeting is on ASAP.

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan  2 12:18:42 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:18:42 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] Meeting this week
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201011747020.14134@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
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Ok we have enough people for quorum so we will have a meeting. This is 
going to be a little different because otherwise the meeting will take 
forever with the budgeting, so I've cut the agenda right down. I've also 
written some rough steps on what we need to do, but I've never actually 
done a budget on this scale before so I would love some help/comments.

Budgeting
---------
- Could be done on a spreadsheet using the projector
- Current account balances
- Income over last year
- Expected income in coming year
- Expenses in coming year
- How much do we want to keep in reserve or add to our investments?
- The five above items tell us how much we can spend (can we work most of 
this out before the meeting?)
- What do we want to spend money on? Some ideas:
 - Heathred upgrade
 - Events
 - Chairs
 - Couches
 - Coffee table
 - Tools
 - Software
 - A couple of clubroom machines
- Or we could just allocate the money into some general pools and have a 
specific allocation to things that we're sure we want to do (eg heathred).

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |

On Sun, 1 Jan 2012, Bob Adamson wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> It appears that the agenda script was disabled leading up to this week's 
> meeting - can everyone make it this Tuesday night at 5:30? Given our 
> financial year just started and semester is approaching, we really need to 
> sit down and do a bit of a budget, amongst other things such as organising 
> for oday. Let me know via email or irc please and I'll let everyone know 
> if the meeting is on ASAP.
> 
> Andrew Adamson
> UCC President
> bob at ucc.asn.au
> 
> |"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
> 

From atyndall at gmail.com  Mon Jan  2 12:41:23 2012
From: atyndall at gmail.com (Ash Tyndall)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:41:23 +0800
Subject: [committee] Meeting this week
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We should also discuss UCCcamp.
On Jan 2, 2012 12:18 PM, "Bob Adamson" <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> Ok we have enough people for quorum so we will have a meeting. This is
> going to be a little different because otherwise the meeting will take
> forever with the budgeting, so I've cut the agenda right down. I've also
> written some rough steps on what we need to do, but I've never actually
> done a budget on this scale before so I would love some help/comments.
>
> Budgeting
> ---------
> - Could be done on a spreadsheet using the projector
> - Current account balances
> - Income over last year
> - Expected income in coming year
> - Expenses in coming year
> - How much do we want to keep in reserve or add to our investments?
> - The five above items tell us how much we can spend (can we work most of
> this out before the meeting?)
> - What do we want to spend money on? Some ideas:
>  - Heathred upgrade
>  - Events
>  - Chairs
>  - Couches
>  - Coffee table
>  - Tools
>  - Software
>  - A couple of clubroom machines
> - Or we could just allocate the money into some general pools and have a
> specific allocation to things that we're sure we want to do (eg heathred).
>
> Andrew Adamson
> UCC President
> bob at ucc.asn.au
>
> |"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
>
> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012, Bob Adamson wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > It appears that the agenda script was disabled leading up to this week's
> > meeting - can everyone make it this Tuesday night at 5:30? Given our
> > financial year just started and semester is approaching, we really need
> to
> > sit down and do a bit of a budget, amongst other things such as
> organising
> > for oday. Let me know via email or irc please and I'll let everyone know
> > if the meeting is on ASAP.
> >
> > Andrew Adamson
> > UCC President
> > bob at ucc.asn.au
> >
> > |"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."
> |
> > | ---Peter's Laws
>  |
> >
>
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From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan  2 16:18:49 2012
From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:18:49 +0800
Subject: [committee] Tasks for O'Day 2012
Message-ID: <CAOZ4rSUxUO4x-EVdBVoHASSOwAzZdX6vKRtVVGOb4NM2Nx0egw@mail.gmail.com>

Ahead of our meeting tomorrow at 5.30pm in the clubroom, a bit of
stuff about O'Day.

Sure, we're well over a month out from O'Day and we've only entered the new
year, but I'm looking for people who want to be on committee this
year, especially in exec positions, to step up now and show some
interest.

I'll even save you half the battle and give you the list of basic
tasks that need to be done:

1) Book O'Day stall
    - Already done.

2) Membership forms
    - Already done. 79 sitting in clubroom, will want closer to
150/175 (good to have some spares). Can be found at
http://ucc.asn.au/2012membershipform.pdf

3) Fresher Guide
    - Not as easy as some of the other bits. [DJA]'s format worked
quite well, just needs a few tweaks to ensure everything is accurate
for new dispense, computer list is up-to-date and [BOB]'s welcome is
in there.
    - Would be good to set the dates for some events as well like the
Fresher Welcome and AGM (we have pretty standard timings for these) to
make the guide more useful (make sure you put these into the bloody
calendar as well - its something we didn't do well this year).

4) Float for O'Day
    - [TPG] can organise this with Henry closer to the date.

5) MemberDB
    - Unless Zanchey makes some changes in the meantime, will need a
new sqlite file for the 2012 membership records.
    - Ask Zanchey or one of the older committee members for some pointers

6) Wiki page
    - Used to organise the day with lists of equipment, people, tasks
and activities. Its value should not be underestimated.
    - You can use one of many from previous years as a template.

It would be great if some of this stuff could be sorted out by early
February, especially things like the Fresher Guide that need to be
printed.

None of the tasks are particularly strenuous and if you want any hope
of getting on committee now's the time to pitch in.

Cheers,
--
Matt Didcoe [MRD]
Vice President (2011) / Wheel member
mattman at ucc

From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan  2 16:56:04 2012
From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 16:56:04 +0800
Subject: [committee] Meeting this week
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Just thinking aloud before the meeting on a few of the points. See inline.

Other thing not on this list is the clubroom move (if it does happen
in this budget year, if at all). How much that costs depends on the
space we get allocated, how its designed, how much the Guild would
give us etc. etc. etc.

[MRD]

>> Budgeting
>> ---------
>> - Could be done on a spreadsheet using the projector
>> - Current account balances
>> - Income over last year
>> - Expected income in coming year
>> - Expenses in coming year

       We only have one fixed expense which is the phone. $22/mth for
that. Everything else is discretionary.

>> - How much do we want to keep in reserve or add to our investments?
>> - The five above items tell us how much we can spend (can we work most of
>> this out before the meeting?)
>> - What do we want to spend money on? Some ideas:
>> ?- Heathred upgrade
     At a guesstimate with Zanchey this will cost $1,000
>> ?- Events
     Really depends how many we have (which depends on the committee
we get to a large degree).

     O'Day: $100-$200 upfront (keeping in mind O'Day claims which
should help bring that down)
     Fresher Welcome: $200 (can't cost any more than that for free pizza surely)
     LANs: $300 for a big one, $150 for a small one (again, if there's
no prizes given out there's really no cost to the club)
     UCCcamp: $2,500 (with the cheaper venue and kitchen facilities I
don't see it costing more than this - rather over estimate on this one
though so there's no surprises)

>> ?- Chairs
     Depends on the quality we go for, supplier etc (UWA have some
deals iirc) - lets say $50/each times 10?

>> ?- Couches
     Again, depends on quality, supplier etc - $1,500 for two new
couches (2 and 3 seater)

>> ?- Coffee table
     $100

>> ?- Tools
     $500 pool (still requires approval, but lets set it aside now)

>> ?- Software
     Dunno what software we need, prices vary wildly so hard to put a
value on this.

>> ?- A couple of clubroom machines
     $1,500 each seems a fair amount (though we'd look for donations)

From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan  2 17:00:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Mon,  2 Jan 2012 17:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 24 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting General
	Business
Message-ID: <20120102090001.498B260071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------

bob : Budgeting meeting

From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan  2 17:11:24 2012
From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:11:24 +0800
Subject: [committee] Meeting this week
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Oh, and a new spider/exhibition banner - $150 max at officeworks
(depends on what we choose and assuming the web price includes
materials AND printing)

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 4:56 PM, Matt Didcoe <mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> Just thinking aloud before the meeting on a few of the points. See inline.
>
> Other thing not on this list is the clubroom move (if it does happen
> in this budget year, if at all). How much that costs depends on the
> space we get allocated, how its designed, how much the Guild would
> give us etc. etc. etc.
>
> [MRD]
>
>>> Budgeting
>>> ---------
>>> - Could be done on a spreadsheet using the projector
>>> - Current account balances
>>> - Income over last year
>>> - Expected income in coming year
>>> - Expenses in coming year
>
> ? ? ? We only have one fixed expense which is the phone. $22/mth for
> that. Everything else is discretionary.
>
>>> - How much do we want to keep in reserve or add to our investments?
>>> - The five above items tell us how much we can spend (can we work most of
>>> this out before the meeting?)
>>> - What do we want to spend money on? Some ideas:
>>> ?- Heathred upgrade
> ? ? At a guesstimate with Zanchey this will cost $1,000
>>> ?- Events
> ? ? Really depends how many we have (which depends on the committee
> we get to a large degree).
>
> ? ? O'Day: $100-$200 upfront (keeping in mind O'Day claims which
> should help bring that down)
> ? ? Fresher Welcome: $200 (can't cost any more than that for free pizza surely)
> ? ? LANs: $300 for a big one, $150 for a small one (again, if there's
> no prizes given out there's really no cost to the club)
> ? ? UCCcamp: $2,500 (with the cheaper venue and kitchen facilities I
> don't see it costing more than this - rather over estimate on this one
> though so there's no surprises)
>
>>> ?- Chairs
> ? ? Depends on the quality we go for, supplier etc (UWA have some
> deals iirc) - lets say $50/each times 10?
>
>>> ?- Couches
> ? ? Again, depends on quality, supplier etc - $1,500 for two new
> couches (2 and 3 seater)
>
>>> ?- Coffee table
> ? ? $100
>
>>> ?- Tools
> ? ? $500 pool (still requires approval, but lets set it aside now)
>
>>> ?- Software
> ? ? Dunno what software we need, prices vary wildly so hard to put a
> value on this.
>
>>> ?- A couple of clubroom machines
> ? ? $1,500 each seems a fair amount (though we'd look for donations)

From atyndall at ucc.asn.au  Mon Jan  2 17:43:56 2012
From: atyndall at ucc.asn.au (Ash Tyndall)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:43:56 +0800
Subject: [committee] Tasks for O'Day 2012
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On Jan 2, 2012 4:19 PM, "Matt Didcoe" <mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>
> Ahead of our meeting tomorrow at 5.30pm in the clubroom, a bit of
> stuff about O'Day.
>
> Sure, we're well over a month out from O'Day and we've only entered the
new
> year, but I'm looking for people who want to be on committee this
> year, especially in exec positions, to step up now and show some
> interest.
>
> I'll even save you half the battle and give you the list of basic
> tasks that need to be done:
>
> 1) Book O'Day stall
>    - Already done.
>
> 2) Membership forms
>    - Already done. 79 sitting in clubroom, will want closer to
> 150/175 (good to have some spares). Can be found at
> http://ucc.asn.au/2012membershipform.pdf
>
> 3) Fresher Guide
>    - Not as easy as some of the other bits. [DJA]'s format worked
> quite well, just needs a few tweaks to ensure everything is accurate
> for new dispense, computer list is up-to-date and [BOB]'s welcome is
> in there.
>    - Would be good to set the dates for some events as well like the
> Fresher Welcome and AGM (we have pretty standard timings for these) to
> make the guide more useful (make sure you put these into the bloody
> calendar as well - its something we didn't do well this year).

I can probably pitch in with this.

>
> 4) Float for O'Day
>    - [TPG] can organise this with Henry closer to the date.
>
> 5) MemberDB
>    - Unless Zanchey makes some changes in the meantime, will need a
> new sqlite file for the 2012 membership records.
>    - Ask Zanchey or one of the older committee members for some pointers

Same here.

>
> 6) Wiki page
>    - Used to organise the day with lists of equipment, people, tasks
> and activities. Its value should not be underestimated.
>    - You can use one of many from previous years as a template.
>
> It would be great if some of this stuff could be sorted out by early
> February, especially things like the Fresher Guide that need to be
> printed.
>
> None of the tasks are particularly strenuous and if you want any hope
> of getting on committee now's the time to pitch in.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Matt Didcoe [MRD]
> Vice President (2011) / Wheel member
> mattman at ucc

[ASH]
2011 Frep
On Jan 2, 2012 4:19 PM, "Matt Didcoe" <mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> Ahead of our meeting tomorrow at 5.30pm in the clubroom, a bit of
> stuff about O'Day.
>
> Sure, we're well over a month out from O'Day and we've only entered the new
> year, but I'm looking for people who want to be on committee this
> year, especially in exec positions, to step up now and show some
> interest.
>
> I'll even save you half the battle and give you the list of basic
> tasks that need to be done:
>
> 1) Book O'Day stall
>    - Already done.
>
> 2) Membership forms
>    - Already done. 79 sitting in clubroom, will want closer to
> 150/175 (good to have some spares). Can be found at
> http://ucc.asn.au/2012membershipform.pdf
>
> 3) Fresher Guide
>    - Not as easy as some of the other bits. [DJA]'s format worked
> quite well, just needs a few tweaks to ensure everything is accurate
> for new dispense, computer list is up-to-date and [BOB]'s welcome is
> in there.
>    - Would be good to set the dates for some events as well like the
> Fresher Welcome and AGM (we have pretty standard timings for these) to
> make the guide more useful (make sure you put these into the bloody
> calendar as well - its something we didn't do well this year).
>
> 4) Float for O'Day
>    - [TPG] can organise this with Henry closer to the date.
>
> 5) MemberDB
>    - Unless Zanchey makes some changes in the meantime, will need a
> new sqlite file for the 2012 membership records.
>    - Ask Zanchey or one of the older committee members for some pointers
>
> 6) Wiki page
>    - Used to organise the day with lists of equipment, people, tasks
> and activities. Its value should not be underestimated.
>    - You can use one of many from previous years as a template.
>
> It would be great if some of this stuff could be sorted out by early
> February, especially things like the Fresher Guide that need to be
> printed.
>
> None of the tasks are particularly strenuous and if you want any hope
> of getting on committee now's the time to pitch in.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Matt Didcoe [MRD]
> Vice President (2011) / Wheel member
> mattman at ucc
>
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From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan  2 17:44:50 2012
From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:44:50 +0800
Subject: [committee] Tasks for O'Day 2012
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MemberDB has already been done.

Thanks be to Zanchey.

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Ash Tyndall <atyndall at ucc.asn.au> wrote:
>
> On Jan 2, 2012 4:19 PM, "Matt Didcoe" <mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>> Ahead of our meeting tomorrow at 5.30pm in the clubroom, a bit of
>> stuff about O'Day.
>>
>> Sure, we're well over a month out from O'Day and we've only entered the
>> new
>> year, but I'm looking for people who want to be on committee this
>> year, especially in exec positions, to step up now and show some
>> interest.
>>
>> I'll even save you half the battle and give you the list of basic
>> tasks that need to be done:
>>
>> 1) Book O'Day stall
>> ? ?- Already done.
>>
>> 2) Membership forms
>> ? ?- Already done. 79 sitting in clubroom, will want closer to
>> 150/175 (good to have some spares). Can be found at
>> http://ucc.asn.au/2012membershipform.pdf
>>
>> 3) Fresher Guide
>> ? ?- Not as easy as some of the other bits. [DJA]'s format worked
>> quite well, just needs a few tweaks to ensure everything is accurate
>> for new dispense, computer list is up-to-date and [BOB]'s welcome is
>> in there.
>> ? ?- Would be good to set the dates for some events as well like the
>> Fresher Welcome and AGM (we have pretty standard timings for these) to
>> make the guide more useful (make sure you put these into the bloody
>> calendar as well - its something we didn't do well this year).
>
> I can probably pitch in with this.
>
>>
>> 4) Float for O'Day
>> ? ?- [TPG] can organise this with Henry closer to the date.
>>
>> 5) MemberDB
>> ? ?- Unless Zanchey makes some changes in the meantime, will need a
>> new sqlite file for the 2012 membership records.
>> ? ?- Ask Zanchey or one of the older committee members for some pointers
>
> Same here.
>
>>
>> 6) Wiki page
>> ? ?- Used to organise the day with lists of equipment, people, tasks
>> and activities. Its value should not be underestimated.
>> ? ?- You can use one of many from previous years as a template.
>>
>> It would be great if some of this stuff could be sorted out by early
>> February, especially things like the Fresher Guide that need to be
>> printed.
>>
>> None of the tasks are particularly strenuous and if you want any hope
>> of getting on committee now's the time to pitch in.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> Matt Didcoe [MRD]
>> Vice President (2011) / Wheel member
>> mattman at ucc
>
> [ASH]
> 2011 Frep
>
> On Jan 2, 2012 4:19 PM, "Matt Didcoe" <mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>> Ahead of our meeting tomorrow at 5.30pm in the clubroom, a bit of
>> stuff about O'Day.
>>
>> Sure, we're well over a month out from O'Day and we've only entered the
>> new
>> year, but I'm looking for people who want to be on committee this
>> year, especially in exec positions, to step up now and show some
>> interest.
>>
>> I'll even save you half the battle and give you the list of basic
>> tasks that need to be done:
>>
>> 1) Book O'Day stall
>> ? ?- Already done.
>>
>> 2) Membership forms
>> ? ?- Already done. 79 sitting in clubroom, will want closer to
>> 150/175 (good to have some spares). Can be found at
>> http://ucc.asn.au/2012membershipform.pdf
>>
>> 3) Fresher Guide
>> ? ?- Not as easy as some of the other bits. [DJA]'s format worked
>> quite well, just needs a few tweaks to ensure everything is accurate
>> for new dispense, computer list is up-to-date and [BOB]'s welcome is
>> in there.
>> ? ?- Would be good to set the dates for some events as well like the
>> Fresher Welcome and AGM (we have pretty standard timings for these) to
>> make the guide more useful (make sure you put these into the bloody
>> calendar as well - its something we didn't do well this year).
>>
>> 4) Float for O'Day
>> ? ?- [TPG] can organise this with Henry closer to the date.
>>
>> 5) MemberDB
>> ? ?- Unless Zanchey makes some changes in the meantime, will need a
>> new sqlite file for the 2012 membership records.
>> ? ?- Ask Zanchey or one of the older committee members for some pointers
>>
>> 6) Wiki page
>> ? ?- Used to organise the day with lists of equipment, people, tasks
>> and activities. Its value should not be underestimated.
>> ? ?- You can use one of many from previous years as a template.
>>
>> It would be great if some of this stuff could be sorted out by early
>> February, especially things like the Fresher Guide that need to be
>> printed.
>>
>> None of the tasks are particularly strenuous and if you want any hope
>> of getting on committee now's the time to pitch in.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> --
>> Matt Didcoe [MRD]
>> Vice President (2011) / Wheel member
>> mattman at ucc

From atyndall at ucc.asn.au  Mon Jan  2 17:45:28 2012
From: atyndall at ucc.asn.au (Ash Tyndall)
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:45:28 +0800
Subject: [committee] Tasks for O'Day 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAOZ4rSUxUO4x-EVdBVoHASSOwAzZdX6vKRtVVGOb4NM2Nx0egw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZ4rSUxUO4x-EVdBVoHASSOwAzZdX6vKRtVVGOb4NM2Nx0egw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAQZ0XeiJGLRsLbNHN=zdTfrZ+k7RpLf3gSv0UUiDmw9g3cM7A@mail.gmail.com>

On Jan 2, 2012 4:19 PM, "Matt Didcoe" <mattman
<mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>@<mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au <mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>> wrote:
>
> Ahead of our meeting tomorrow at 5.30pm in the clubroom, a bit of
> stuff about O'Day.
>
> Sure, we're well over a month out from O'Day and we've only entered the
new
> year, but I'm looking for people who want to be on committee this
> year, especially in exec positions, to step up now and show some
> interest.
>
> I'll even save you half the battle and give you the list of basic
> tasks that need to be done:
>
> 1) Book O'Day stall
>    - Already done.
>
> 2) Membership forms
>    - Already done. 79 sitting in clubroom, will want closer to
> 150/175 (good to have some spares). Can be found at
> http:// <http://ucc.asn.au/2012membershipform.pdf>ucc.asn.au<http://ucc.asn.au/2012membershipform.pdf>
/2012membershipform.pdf <http://ucc.asn.au/2012membershipform.pdf>
>
> 3) Fresher Guide
>    - Not as easy as some of the other bits. [DJA]'s format worked
> quite well, just needs a few tweaks to ensure everything is accurate
> for new dispense, computer list is up-to-date and [BOB]'s welcome is
> in there.
>    - Would be good to set the dates for some events as well like the
> Fresher Welcome and AGM (we have pretty standard timings for these) to
> make the guide more useful (make sure you put these into the bloody
> calendar as well - its something we didn't do well this year).

I can probably pitch in with this.

>
> 4) Float for O'Day
>    - [TPG] can organise this with Henry closer to the date.
>
> 5) MemberDB
>    - Unless Zanchey makes some changes in the meantime, will need a
> new sqlite file for the 2012 membership records.
>    - Ask Zanchey or one of the older committee members for some pointers

Same here.

>
> 6) Wiki page
>    - Used to organise the day with lists of equipment, people, tasks
> and activities. Its value should not be underestimated.
>    - You can use one of many from previous years as a template.
>
> It would be great if some of this stuff could be sorted out by early
> February, especially things like the Fresher Guide that need to be
> printed.
>
> None of the tasks are particularly strenuous and if you want any hope
> of getting on committee now's the time to pitch in.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Matt Didcoe [MRD]
> Vice President (2011) / Wheel member
> mattman at ucc

[ASH]
2011 Frep
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From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan  3 11:00:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue,  3 Jan 2012 11:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 6 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting General
	Business
Message-ID: <20120103030001.5484360071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------
bob : who is doing what for oday?
bob : answer cssc regarding their hosting costs
bob : Budgeting meeting

Budgeting
---------
- Could be done on a spreadsheet using the projector
- Current account balances
- Income over last year
- Expected income in coming year
- Expenses in coming year
- How much do we want to keep in reserve or add to our investments?
- The five above items tell us how much we can spend (can we work most of this out before the meeting?)
- What do we want to spend money on? Some ideas:
 - Heathred upgrade
 - Events
 - Chairs
 - Couches
 - Coffee table
 - Tools
 - Software
 - A couple of clubroom machines
 

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan  3 11:12:18 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 11:12:18 +0800
Subject: [committee] Some financial statements for 2011
Message-ID: <20120103111218.74578tynix1znuo0@secure.ucc.asn.au>

Hi all,

Last night [TPG] and I went through and updated the accounting records for
the end of 2011. Two pdf's are attached with the current account balances
and a profit and loss statement. It would be beneficial if you could
familiarise yourselves with them before tonight if you have a moment.

In an effort to preempt a few of the obvious questions:

-the "member accounts" category shows that [MRD] and I are owed a few
hundred dollars by the club (not the other way around!)

-the "Imbalance" account has that value mostly due to the change in
dispense systems (most of the amount), as well as general mistakes by
people putting money in the safe (small amount)

-the "Net income for period" figure doesn't reflect that we have spent
several thousand dollars on tools and hardware, so don't expect there to
be an extra $7600 available in funds

-to calculate available funds you sum "member accounts" with "current
assets", which gives $1205.16. Please note that figure doesn't include the
cost of our O'Day stall of $90.

-"miscellaneous expenses" are things such as postage costs, transaction
fees, the cost of the $5 new-user dispense credit, as well as some
consumables which don't come under other accounts (eg bin bags)

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |


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From atyndall at ucc.asn.au  Tue Jan  3 13:44:36 2012
From: atyndall at ucc.asn.au (Ash Tyndall)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:44:36 +0800
Subject: [committee] Discussion of club direction in 2012
Message-ID: <CAAQZ0Xc_V7xegaK05w_MEfve=ai+_f025eU3SmMuVAX+JXbQ3A@mail.gmail.com>

Seeing as we're going to be discussing the club's budget in the meeting
tonight, it seems only sensible that we should also start discussing the
directions we would like to see the club head towards in 2012.

While of course this committee's decisions will not be at all binding on
the 2012 committee's decisions, I'm sure it can't hurt giving them a solid
base of opinion to build upon as the year progresses.

To get the discussion started, I've attached a document containing my
personal opinions on the club's direction. I've also added discussion of
the club's direction to tonight's agenda.

-- 
Ash Tyndall [ASH]
2011 Fresher Rep
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From atyndall at ucc.asn.au  Tue Jan  3 14:59:19 2012
From: atyndall at ucc.asn.au (Ash Tyndall)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 14:59:19 +0800
Subject: [committee] Discussion of club direction in 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAAQZ0Xc_V7xegaK05w_MEfve=ai+_f025eU3SmMuVAX+JXbQ3A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAQZ0Xc_V7xegaK05w_MEfve=ai+_f025eU3SmMuVAX+JXbQ3A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAQZ0Xe_vHvZ8255WHi=wioS6czSnbgQNFAFT7dsz2Etz-uvfw@mail.gmail.com>

Some have requested that I include the previously attached document in
plaintext. Here it is:

UCC Direction 2012
A collection of opinions by Ash Tyndall, written in December 2011

Moving beyond the Clubroom
--------------------------
While the clubroom is certainly the heart and soul of the club, the club would
do well to investigate further what areas around campus it can begin to start
participating in.

Getting more involved in Guild run events, participating in charity activities
such as Relay 4 Life and inter-club events like Prosh Olympics would both work
to raise the club's profile, and provide opportunities for club members to
interact in further social settings.

Regular Events
--------------
Member retention is a huge issue for most clubs; while O-Day usually has a huge
fresher sign-up, there is a large drop-off in club participation the next
couple of weeks hence.

One way in which this problem can be mitigated to a degree, is to ensure events
are run frequently and ? more importantly ? at regularly intervals. If you
can get a new member to incorporate club events into their normal routine,
you've earned yourself a valuable regular participant.

Shared Responsibility
---------------------
A pervasive problem in the current committee is the current mindset of people
"owning"? events, and the attitude that "you suggested it, you do it."
While this attitude does help stop criticism without useful alternative
suggestions, it also quickly burns out any member who becomes assigned to a
frequently occurring event.

This attitude, as it stands, would make it nearly impossible to move to a
regular event schedule as discussed above.

An obvious solution is to encourage the rejection of this attitude within the
committee and instead foster the understanding that with the amount of people
the committee has, if everyone shares the workload of organising and running
events, no one committee member will be left with a "burn out level"
workload.

Advertising to the wider student population
-------------------------------------------
The club currently only extends strong welcomes to non-members on O-Day in
semester 1 and Club Carnival in semester 2. After these times have elapsed, the
club becomes almost a closed society.

We have very little advertising or promotion outside of our own circles and for
a student who did not attend O-Day or Club Carnival, it would be 1) unlikely
for them to know of our existence and 2) unlikely that they would take the
initiative to join a club that does not project a particularly welcoming
exterior.

The club should strive with future events to make sure that they are
appropriately advertised to the wider UWA community. This strategy would
hopefully generate a small but steady influx of members all year round, and
would continue to increase the club's profile in the wider community.

Targeting the faculty of Engineering, Computing and Mathematics with poster
material related to events, as well as utilising the Guild's rotunda
advertising system, could serve to draw many people who would otherwise not
know about our events.

Furthermore, the committee should be encouraged to consider that somewhat
subsidising non-members at an event (through their share of free pizza for
example) can be advantageous to the club in the long run, as it can serve to
"bribe" people into joining the club.

LANs
----
In line with the suggestion for more regular events, LANs should become a more
regular occurrence in the Cameron Hall loft and possibly at larger venues.
There is generally a small but constant demand for more LANing opportunities,
and the club should endeavour to fill this demand on a regular basis.

Running monthly LANs at a similar time, place and interval (exams and other
events permitting) could be an easy way to encourage new memberships and
current member participation.

Monday Night at the Movies
--------------------------
Yes, the event that just won't die permanently! One of the primary problems
with the event was that while the screening was going on, other activity was
continuing in the clubroom. This served as a constant distraction. Coupled with
the fact the furniture was always arranged so awkwardly in relation to the
screen, this served to severely detract from the experience.

A solution to this problem would be to close the clubroom to non-movie watchers
during this time and rearrange the furniture to be more suitable to a movie
watching experience. This, coupled with the committee sharing the
responsibility of hosting the event, would lead to a lasting event.

UCC Talks
---------
UCC Camp demonstrated that within the club's membership, there are engaging
speakers who can speak on intriguing areas of computer science and there are
plenty of people willing to listen to them.

Furthermore, the club's profile as a large body of potential employees could
easily lead to the club recruiting speakers and representatives from a variety
of computing organisations to speak about their technological innovations and
experience in the industry.

Bring the Talks back as a monthly or bi-monthly event would serve to draw
potential new members to the club, and would educate current members on some of
the rapidly developing areas of the computer science industry.

Technological Investment
------------------------
In years past, the club used its funds to provide club members access to
technologies and resources that they would otherwise be unable to utilise. In
the late 70s and early 80s, given the newly developing technologies of the
time, this was of course the computer.

In today's world, computers are ubiquitous and ? for the most part ?
inexpensive. So while the club does still provide a valuable service to its
members, the value of this service has unfortunately diminished.

To remain relevant in a constantly advancing technological landscape, the club
needs to begin looking to the future and start using portions of the club's
funds to investing in newly available technologies. In a similar way, the club
should also begin perusing sponsorship by large technology organisations to
decrease the cost of these technologies in exchange for promotion of the
organisation in question.

New Clubroom
------------
It appears that in the near future, perhaps even next year, the club will be
migrating to a different clubroom on the Guild Administrator floor of the Guild
building. This will be one of the most important events to happen to the club
in the last 20 years, so it's important that it is handled correctly.

The club needs to ensure we are allocated adequate space to ensure the club
continues to have room for now and for the future. Funding for the necessary
renovations to the room will need to be pursued from a variety of sources,
including a large contribution from the club's current fund pool to ensure
that the job is done right.

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Ash Tyndall <atyndall at ucc.asn.au> wrote:
>Seeing as we're going to be discussing the club's budget in the meeting
>tonight, it seems only sensible that we should also start discussing the
>directions we would like to see the club head towards in 2012.
>
>While of course this committee's decisions will not be at all binding on the
>2012 committee's decisions, I'm sure it can't hurt giving them a solid base of
>opinion to build upon as the year progresses.
>
>To get the discussion started, I've attached a document containing my
>personal opinions on the club's direction. I've also added discussion of the
>club's direction to tonight's agenda.

--
Ash Tyndall [ASH]
2011 Fresher Rep

From astro at jaram.net.au  Tue Jan  3 15:21:05 2012
From: astro at jaram.net.au (Jeremy Cole)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:21:05 +0800
Subject: [committee] Some financial statements for 2011
In-Reply-To: <20120103111218.74578tynix1znuo0@secure.ucc.asn.au>
References: <20120103111218.74578tynix1znuo0@secure.ucc.asn.au>
Message-ID: <1985964490208756863@unknownmsgid>

Aside from the fact that member accounts is really a liability, this
is a hell of a lot better than I was expecting...

Kudos guys!

Fortunately I won't be there tonight so please enjoy my absence :P

Sent from my iPhone

On 03/01/2012, at 11:12, "bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au" <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Last night [TPG] and I went through and updated the accounting records for
> the end of 2011. Two pdf's are attached with the current account balances
> and a profit and loss statement. It would be beneficial if you could
> familiarise yourselves with them before tonight if you have a moment.
>
> In an effort to preempt a few of the obvious questions:
>
> -the "member accounts" category shows that [MRD] and I are owed a few
> hundred dollars by the club (not the other way around!)
>
> -the "Imbalance" account has that value mostly due to the change in
> dispense systems (most of the amount), as well as general mistakes by
> people putting money in the safe (small amount)
>
> -the "Net income for period" figure doesn't reflect that we have spent
> several thousand dollars on tools and hardware, so don't expect there to
> be an extra $7600 available in funds
>
> -to calculate available funds you sum "member accounts" with "current
> assets", which gives $1205.16. Please note that figure doesn't include the
> cost of our O'Day stall of $90.
>
> -"miscellaneous expenses" are things such as postage costs, transaction
> fees, the cost of the $5 new-user dispense credit, as well as some
> consumables which don't come under other accounts (eg bin bags)
>
> Andrew Adamson
> UCC President
> bob at ucc.asn.au
>
> |"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
>
>
> <Account summary 2011.pdf>
> <Profit and loss 2011.pdf>

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan  3 15:37:12 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 15:37:12 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] Some financial statements for 2011
In-Reply-To: <1985964490208756863@unknownmsgid>
References: <20120103111218.74578tynix1znuo0@secure.ucc.asn.au>
	<1985964490208756863@unknownmsgid>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201031527130.14134@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>


On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Jeremy Cole wrote:

> Aside from the fact that member accounts is really a liability, this
> is a hell of a lot better than I was expecting...

Yeah I thought that too, but when I set it up like that it wasn't working 
how I wanted it to and didn't show clearly what funds we had available. 
The accounts can also be in the positive (where the member owes the club 
money), so setting them up as bank accounts seemed more logical.

Jacques - yes we use cash accounting.

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |

From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan  3 16:15:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue,  3 Jan 2012 16:15:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 45 minute warning: This Week's Committee Meeting
	General Business
Message-ID: <20120103081501.7F2C960071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------
bob : who is doing what for oday?
bob : answer cssc regarding their hosting costs
bob : Budgeting meeting

	Budgeting
	---------
	- Could be done on a spreadsheet using the projector
	- Current account balances
	- Income over last year
	- Expected income in coming year
	- Expenses in coming year
	- How much do we want to keep in reserve or add to our investments?
	- The five above items tell us how much we can spend (can we work most of this out before the meeting?)
	- What do we want to spend money on? Some ideas:
	 - Heathred upgrade
	 - Events
	 - Chairs
	 - Couches
	 - Coffee table
	 - Tools
	 - Software
	 - A couple of clubroom machines
	 - UCCcamp

atyndall : Discussion regarding the club's direction in 2012.
atyndall : Organising the Fresher Guide writing night

From maset at ucc.asn.au  Tue Jan  3 18:00:03 2012
From: maset at ucc.asn.au (Anil Sharma)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 18:00:03 +0800
Subject: [committee] Discussion of club direction in 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAAQZ0Xe_vHvZ8255WHi=wioS6czSnbgQNFAFT7dsz2Etz-uvfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAQZ0Xc_V7xegaK05w_MEfve=ai+_f025eU3SmMuVAX+JXbQ3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAQZ0Xe_vHvZ8255WHi=wioS6czSnbgQNFAFT7dsz2Etz-uvfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAJUJhpaS8YmbtQRG0HVPJ9dFYVoY1ENZ0CqB8wAUUufJPBBbtA@mail.gmail.com>

Fuck it, I wasn't going to reply, then ranted on IRC. Some good ideas
Ash, and well worth discussing. However:

"maset> Ash: the committee shouldn't be a body to prescribe events,
but instead be a means for enabling members to hold events/do things"

"maset> Ash: for example, electronics. For many a year there wasn't
much interest in doing electronics things, but every now and again
somebody would complain that committee should do someting. It
inevitably fizzled out. Recently we had a few members that were
interested in doing electronics stuff, and (from what I remember)
committee helped them out, and that worked. I assume once they leave,
electronics tinkering will be lost to the club until the next group of
interested people join."

"maset> Ash: finally, I remember one committee that tried to enforce
more events by writing them into the fresher's guide. The next
committee went 'meh' and cancelled half of them"

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan  3 20:21:49 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2012 20:21:49 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] Discussion of club direction in 2012
In-Reply-To: <CAAQZ0Xe_vHvZ8255WHi=wioS6czSnbgQNFAFT7dsz2Etz-uvfw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAQZ0Xc_V7xegaK05w_MEfve=ai+_f025eU3SmMuVAX+JXbQ3A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAQZ0Xe_vHvZ8255WHi=wioS6czSnbgQNFAFT7dsz2Etz-uvfw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201031546140.14134@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Ash Tyndall wrote:

> Some have requested that I include the previously attached document in
> plaintext. Here it is:
> 
> UCC Direction 2012
> A collection of opinions by Ash Tyndall, written in December 2011
> 
> Moving beyond the Clubroom
> --------------------------
> While the clubroom is certainly the heart and soul of the club, the club would
> do well to investigate further what areas around campus it can begin to start
> participating in.

Hostile takeover of Information Services - who's keen? ;)
 
> Getting more involved in Guild run events, participating in charity activities
> such as Relay 4 Life and inter-club events like Prosh Olympics would both work
> to raise the club's profile, and provide opportunities for club members to
> interact in further social settings.

A prosh theme/stunt/crew for UCC would be a good and fun start to that. I 
think most of these things haven't been done in the past due to numbers - 
something that we seem to have been improving upon in the last couple of 
years.

> Regular Events
> --------------
> Member retention is a huge issue for most clubs; while O-Day usually has a huge
> fresher sign-up, there is a large drop-off in club participation the next
> couple of weeks hence.

This happens in every club since it's almost impossible to participate in 
every club you sign up to on O'Day. The best way to combat it is to ensure 
that people who sign up on O'Day are shown to the clubroom and are given a 
good induction so they feel welcome and included.

> One way in which this problem can be mitigated to a degree, is to ensure events
> are run frequently and ? more importantly ? at regularly intervals. If you
> can get a new member to incorporate club events into their normal routine,
> you've earned yourself a valuable regular participant.
> 
> Shared Responsibility
> ---------------------
> A pervasive problem in the current committee is the current mindset of people
> "owning"? events, and the attitude that "you suggested it, you do it."
> While this attitude does help stop criticism without useful alternative
> suggestions, it also quickly burns out any member who becomes assigned to a
> frequently occurring event.
> 
> This attitude, as it stands, would make it nearly impossible to move to a
> regular event schedule as discussed above.
> 
> An obvious solution is to encourage the rejection of this attitude within the
> committee and instead foster the understanding that with the amount of people
> the committee has, if everyone shares the workload of organising and running
> events, no one committee member will be left with a "burn out level"
> workload.

As someone who tried reviving the movie nights in 2011, I strongly concur.

> Advertising to the wider student population
> -------------------------------------------
> The club currently only extends strong welcomes to non-members on O-Day in
> semester 1 and Club Carnival in semester 2. After these times have elapsed, the
> club becomes almost a closed society.
>
> We have very little advertising or promotion outside of our own circles and for
> a student who did not attend O-Day or Club Carnival, it would be 1) unlikely
> for them to know of our existence and 2) unlikely that they would take the
> initiative to join a club that does not project a particularly welcoming
> exterior.
>
> The club should strive with future events to make sure that they are
> appropriately advertised to the wider UWA community. This strategy would
> hopefully generate a small but steady influx of members all year round, and
> would continue to increase the club's profile in the wider community.
> 
> Targeting the faculty of Engineering, Computing and Mathematics with poster
> material related to events, as well as utilising the Guild's rotunda
> advertising system, could serve to draw many people who would otherwise not
> know about our events.

I'm surprised to hear you say that as someone who signed up based on a
poster in the guild courtyard. We also got 19 new members signing up over 
the year and most of the time during semester we can't physically fit more 
people into the clubroom - do we really need to advertise more?
 
> Furthermore, the committee should be encouraged to consider that somewhat
> subsidising non-members at an event (through their share of free pizza for
> example) can be advantageous to the club in the long run, as it can serve to
> "bribe" people into joining the club.

You can get an awful lot already by not being a member - people need to 
realise that they get some value out of being a member otherwise people 
will stop bothering paying the money to join.

> LANs
> ----
> In line with the suggestion for more regular events, LANs should become a more
> regular occurrence in the Cameron Hall loft and possibly at larger venues.
> There is generally a small but constant demand for more LANing opportunities,
> and the club should endeavour to fill this demand on a regular basis.
> 
> Running monthly LANs at a similar time, place and interval (exams and other
> events permitting) could be an easy way to encourage new memberships and
> current member participation.
> 
> Monday Night at the Movies
> --------------------------
> Yes, the event that just won't die permanently! One of the primary problems
> with the event was that while the screening was going on, other activity was
> continuing in the clubroom. This served as a constant distraction. Coupled with
> the fact the furniture was always arranged so awkwardly in relation to the
> screen, this served to severely detract from the experience.
> 
> A solution to this problem would be to close the clubroom to non-movie watchers
> during this time and rearrange the furniture to be more suitable to a movie
> watching experience. This, coupled with the committee sharing the
> responsibility of hosting the event, would lead to a lasting event.

Agreed.
 
> UCC Talks
> ---------
> UCC Camp demonstrated that within the club's membership, there are engaging
> speakers who can speak on intriguing areas of computer science and there are
> plenty of people willing to listen to them.
> 
> Furthermore, the club's profile as a large body of potential employees could
> easily lead to the club recruiting speakers and representatives from a variety
> of computing organisations to speak about their technological innovations and
> experience in the industry.
> 
> Bring the Talks back as a monthly or bi-monthly event would serve to draw
> potential new members to the club, and would educate current members on some of
> the rapidly developing areas of the computer science industry.
> 
> Technological Investment
> ------------------------
> In years past, the club used its funds to provide club members access to
> technologies and resources that they would otherwise be unable to utilise. In
> the late 70s and early 80s, given the newly developing technologies of the
> time, this was of course the computer.
> 
> In today's world, computers are ubiquitous and ? for the most part ?
> inexpensive. So while the club does still provide a valuable service to its
> members, the value of this service has unfortunately diminished.
> 
> To remain relevant in a constantly advancing technological landscape, the club
> needs to begin looking to the future and start using portions of the club's
> funds to investing in newly available technologies. In a similar way, the club
> should also begin perusing sponsorship by large technology organisations to
> decrease the cost of these technologies in exchange for promotion of the
> organisation in question.

Yes, I think wheel also supports this based on discussion at the last 
wheel meeting.

> New Clubroom
> ------------
> It appears that in the near future, perhaps even next year, the club will be
> migrating to a different clubroom on the Guild Administrator floor of the Guild
> building. This will be one of the most important events to happen to the club
> in the last 20 years, so it's important that it is handled correctly.
> 
> The club needs to ensure we are allocated adequate space to ensure the club
> continues to have room for now and for the future. Funding for the necessary
> renovations to the room will need to be pursued from a variety of sources,
> including a large contribution from the club's current fund pool to ensure
> that the job is done right.

Committee (in particular Matt Didcoe and I) have been working on this for 
nearly two years now. I think that we've done everything we can to push 
for a larger space. As for grants, we can't really start chasing them 
until we're 100% sure of the move.
 
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Ash Tyndall <atyndall at ucc.asn.au> wrote:
> >Seeing as we're going to be discussing the club's budget in the meeting
> >tonight, it seems only sensible that we should also start discussing the
> >directions we would like to see the club head towards in 2012.
> >
> >While of course this committee's decisions will not be at all binding on the
> >2012 committee's decisions, I'm sure it can't hurt giving them a solid base of
> >opinion to build upon as the year progresses.
> >
> >To get the discussion started, I've attached a document containing my
> >personal opinions on the club's direction. I've also added discussion of the
> >club's direction to tonight's agenda.
> 
> --
> Ash Tyndall [ASH]
> 2011 Fresher Rep
> 

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan  3 20:58:26 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:58:26 +0800
Subject: [committee] 2012 Budget
Message-ID: <20120103205826.195020ibiwx2s7ms@secure.ucc.asn.au>

Hi All,

The budget that committee worked out at tonights meeting is attached.  
It will hopefully be used as a guideline in the coming year as to how  
much should be spent on what. If you have any questions just ping me  
on irc.

Bob
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From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Wed Jan  4 17:33:35 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 17:33:35 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] CSSC Web hosting Debt
In-Reply-To: <CA+Q08P-56k+ku6aaPNnEPbhrh++w4-n8sk4-HPteFcH4BLsb0g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Q08P-56k+ku6aaPNnEPbhrh++w4-n8sk4-HPteFcH4BLsb0g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201041729130.14134@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Hi Edmund,

The cost of hosting for 2011 was $25, which was paid by Ask Wiren sometime 
in August last year. If you plan on continuing hosting in 2012, could you 
please pay at the same time as member fees are due (an email with the date 
will be sent out soon). It will stay at $25 for 2012 should you wish to 
continue with UCC hosting.

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |

On Fri, 23 Dec 2011, Edmund Chan wrote:

> Hi UCC,
> This is Edmund, treasurer from CSSC. We were wondering what fees we have incurred from?web hosting?this year, and would like to pay them back ASAP. As a heads up, at the moment we're most likely learning towards into doing external
> hosting, and its likely we'll be switching over in the immediate future after reviewing it in a general meeting in the next month or so.
> 
> Merry Xmas,
> Ed
> 
> 

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From: pabx-reports at ucs.uwa.edu.au (pabx-reports at ucs.uwa.edu.au)
Date: Fri,  6 Jan 2012 10:05:47 +0800 (WST)
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From committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Fri Jan  6 17:00:01 2012
From: committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Fri,  6 Jan 2012 17:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 4 day warning: Notice of Ordinary Committee Meeting
Message-ID: <20120106090001.EBE5F60071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

An Ordinary Committee Meeting will be held as usual at 5pm this Tuesday in the UCC Clubroom, unless otherwise stated.

From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Sat Jan  7 14:57:59 2012
From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 14:57:59 +0800
Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - Change of time
Message-ID: <CAOZ4rSU5xhL8LFMpgvKLtKG8TvfQJXxD3+B-JiQ33N6AO1-8EQ@mail.gmail.com>

Due to changing commitments from the committee, the meeting will be
held at 6pm this week (and possibly into the future).

From atyndall at gmail.com  Sat Jan  7 15:05:45 2012
From: atyndall at gmail.com (Ash Tyndall)
Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 15:05:45 +0800
Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - Change of time
In-Reply-To: <CAOZ4rSU5xhL8LFMpgvKLtKG8TvfQJXxD3+B-JiQ33N6AO1-8EQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOZ4rSU5xhL8LFMpgvKLtKG8TvfQJXxD3+B-JiQ33N6AO1-8EQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAQZ0Xf3qw2EaufHKBYvDozBmxrsi8J5Eh7YvsHwmo6F4SDYYw@mail.gmail.com>

I have just realised that I will be working until 6:30 on Tuesdays now
I can join you for the latter half of the meeting.
On Jan 7, 2012 2:58 PM, "Matt Didcoe" <mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> Due to changing commitments from the committee, the meeting will be
> held at 6pm this week (and possibly into the future).
>
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From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan  9 17:00:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Mon,  9 Jan 2012 17:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 24 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting General
	Business
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General Business
----------------


From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan 10 11:00:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 6 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting General
	Business
Message-ID: <20120110030001.4562760071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------


From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan 10 16:15:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:15:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 45 minute warning: This Week's Committee Meeting
	General Business
Message-ID: <20120110081501.9011860071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------


From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan 10 16:18:23 2012
From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 16:18:23 +0800
Subject: [committee] 45 minute warning: This Week's Committee Meeting
 General Business
In-Reply-To: <20120110081501.9011860071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <20120110081501.9011860071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CAOZ4rSXaLHeexJv-W_Ky1RkLFpecVVDBQc=T=BDgX22DH+u+-g@mail.gmail.com>

Meeting is in-fact not until 6pm.

Agenda daemon needs changing again - will do that later this week if
no one does it before me.

[MRD]

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Committee Agenda Daemon
<committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> General Business
> ----------------
>

From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan 10 17:15:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:15:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 45 minute warning: This Week's Committee Meeting
	General Business
Message-ID: <20120110091501.CE31760071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------


From committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Fri Jan 13 18:00:01 2012
From: committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 18:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 4 day warning: Notice of Ordinary Committee Meeting
Message-ID: <20120113100001.7955F60071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

An Ordinary Committee Meeting will be held as usual at 6pm this Tuesday in the UCC Clubroom, unless otherwise stated.

From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan 16 18:00:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 24 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting General
	Business
Message-ID: <20120116100001.2DC3660071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------


From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan 16 18:13:53 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 18:13:53 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] Apologies
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201161813220.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Apologies for tomorrow's meeting, I have a SOC council meeting at 5:45.

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |

From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan 17 12:00:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 6 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting General
	Business
Message-ID: <20120117040001.E4C0860071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------


From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan 17 17:15:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2012 17:15:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 45 minute warning: This Week's Committee Meeting
	General Business
Message-ID: <20120117091501.D0B0D60071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------


From committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Fri Jan 20 18:00:01 2012
From: committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 18:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 4 day warning: Notice of Ordinary Committee Meeting
Message-ID: <20120120100001.5B56660071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

An Ordinary Committee Meeting will be held as usual at 6pm this Tuesday in the UCC Clubroom, unless otherwise stated.

From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan 23 18:00:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 24 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting General
	Business
Message-ID: <20120123100001.A7B7860071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------

matches : Making VMs more available to members

From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan 23 18:52:07 2012
From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:52:07 +0800
Subject: [committee] VMs for members
Message-ID: <20120123185207.114667nvh1nekjwo@secure.ucc.asn.au>

Hi,

People were discussing the magical cloud a lot last Thursday or Friday  
on #ucc, and at some point VMs for members were discussed. So I added  
it to the agenda, but an email to committee@ is probably more  
productive.

Thoughts of myself and/or other people:

1. Why should we make VMs more accessible to members?
    - Access to VMs encourages members to pursue the noble art of  
breaking things without being put on wheel first.
    - This may or may not result in the advancement of computer  
science (our stated goal as a club).

2. Why shouldn't we make VMs more accessible to members?
    - Computers are relatively cheap, people could easily buy a  
physical machine and break that instead.
    - A cheap physical machine will probably be faster than any specs  
we could reasonably put on VMs.
    - It may require more work than the benefits merit.
    - People already have access to VMs. They should read minds better.

3. What do we need to do to make VMs more accessible to members?
    - Physical servers. This depends on how many people want to use  
VMs obviously.
    - Make sure VMs are secure, so that no one can break the rest of  
ucc with their VM. This probably just means not unfirewalling their VMs?
    - A screening process to choose who can have a VM (an arcane  
ritual or painful trial by fire)
    - A script to automate making VMs (easy) and a way of keeping track of VMs
    - Some sort of policy/legal thing?

Since we will have a new committee in 2 months or so, the current  
committee should probably only make recommendations.

Apologies for the verbose email, but it will save me from having to  
remember all this in the committee meeting.

Sam Moore
[SZM]
OCM 2011

-------------------------------------------------
"A chicken in every pot and a car in every garage" ? Herbert Hoover
"A cloud on every server and a VM for every member" - UCC 2012  
committee slogan?













From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan 24 12:00:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 12:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 6 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting General
	Business
Message-ID: <20120124040001.893D860071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------

matches : Making VMs more available to members
bob : Would like to sell some cans of drink to UCC at 50cpc and 70cpc for coke
bob : Can we get a label maker?

From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan 24 17:15:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:15:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 45 minute warning: This Week's Committee Meeting
	General Business
Message-ID: <20120124091501.C02E460071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
----------------

matches : Making VMs more available to members
bob : Would like to sell some cans of drink to UCC at 50cpc and 70cpc for coke
bob : Can we get a label maker?

From committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Fri Jan 27 18:00:01 2012
From: committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 4 day warning: Notice of Ordinary Committee Meeting
Message-ID: <20120127100001.A0C8060071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

An Ordinary Committee Meeting will be held as usual at 6pm this Tuesday in the UCC Clubroom, unless otherwise stated.

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Sat Jan 28 09:25:16 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:25:16 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 4 day warning: Notice of Ordinary Committee Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20120127100001.A0C8060071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <20120127100001.A0C8060071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201280923410.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Meeting is next *Wednesday* at 6pm, not Tuesday.

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |

On Fri, 27 Jan 2012, Committee Agenda Daemon wrote:

> An Ordinary Committee Meeting will be held as usual at 6pm this Tuesday in the UCC Clubroom, unless otherwise stated.
> 

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan 30 14:51:15 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:51:15 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] Label Printer
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301436170.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Hi Committee,

Can we please get this label maker:
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Label-Machines/SASD58480

Along with a one red and one metallic silver tape roll:
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Dymo-Label-Tapes/ES91208
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Dymo-Label-Tapes/ES91203

Finally add rechargeable AA batteries (I can lend a charger when needed):
http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Technology/Power-and-Cables/Chargers/VA56412404

Total cost: $71

If everyone on committee could get back to me by ASAP with their 
approval or disapproval, I will purchase it tomorrow if there is support.

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |

From atyndall at ucc.asn.au  Mon Jan 30 14:53:43 2012
From: atyndall at ucc.asn.au (Ash Tyndall)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 14:53:43 +0800
Subject: [committee] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301436170.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301436170.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <CAAQZ0Xf3ptUFOjKoseo_9cDwfzTZ0efzvGzCu=tjh35m5v6m6w@mail.gmail.com>

This is within my acceptable price range. You have my approval.

[ASH]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> Hi Committee,
>
> Can we please get this label maker:
> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Label-Machines/SASD58480
>
> Along with a one red and one metallic silver tape roll:
> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Dymo-Label-Tapes/ES91208
> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Dymo-Label-Tapes/ES91203
>
> Finally add rechargeable AA batteries (I can lend a charger when needed):
> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Technology/Power-and-Cables/Chargers/VA56412404
>
> Total cost: $71
>
> If everyone on committee could get back to me by ASAP with their
> approval or disapproval, I will purchase it tomorrow if there is support.
>
> Andrew Adamson
> UCC President
> bob at ucc.asn.au
>
> |"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live." ? ? |
> | ---Peter's Laws ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?|



-- 
Ash Tyndall [ASH]
2011 Fresher Rep

From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan 30 16:01:29 2012
From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:01:29 +0800
Subject: [committee] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <CAAQZ0Xf3ptUFOjKoseo_9cDwfzTZ0efzvGzCu=tjh35m5v6m6w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301436170.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
	<CAAQZ0Xf3ptUFOjKoseo_9cDwfzTZ0efzvGzCu=tjh35m5v6m6w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20120130160129.35586xr3cci7kg84@secure.ucc.asn.au>

I'd also support this purchase.

[SZM]

Quoting Ash Tyndall <atyndall at ucc.asn.au>:

> This is within my acceptable price range. You have my approval.
>
> [ASH]
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>> Hi Committee,
>>
>> Can we please get this label maker:
>> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Label-Machines/SASD58480
>>
>> Along with a one red and one metallic silver tape roll:
>> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Dymo-Label-Tapes/ES91208
>> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Dymo-Label-Tapes/ES91203
>>
>> Finally add rechargeable AA batteries (I can lend a charger when needed):
>> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Technology/Power-and-Cables/Chargers/VA56412404
>>
>> Total cost: $71
>>
>> If everyone on committee could get back to me by ASAP with their
>> approval or disapproval, I will purchase it tomorrow if there is support.
>>
>> Andrew Adamson
>> UCC President
>> bob at ucc.asn.au
>>
>> |"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live." ? ? |
>> | ---Peter's Laws ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?|
>
>
>
> --
> Ash Tyndall [ASH]
> 2011 Fresher Rep
>




From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan 30 16:34:15 2012
From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:34:15 +0800
Subject: [committee] Label Printer
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This seems fine, proceed [MRD]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:01 PM,  <matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> I'd also support this purchase.
>
> [SZM]
>
>
> Quoting Ash Tyndall <atyndall at ucc.asn.au>:
>
>> This is within my acceptable price range. You have my approval.
>>
>> [ASH]
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Committee,
>>>
>>> Can we please get this label maker:
>>>
>>> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Label-Machines/SASD58480
>>>
>>> Along with a one red and one metallic silver tape roll:
>>>
>>> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Dymo-Label-Tapes/ES91208
>>>
>>> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Dymo-Label-Tapes/ES91203
>>>
>>> Finally add rechargeable AA batteries (I can lend a charger when needed):
>>>
>>> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Technology/Power-and-Cables/Chargers/VA56412404
>>>
>>> Total cost: $71
>>>
>>> If everyone on committee could get back to me by ASAP with their
>>> approval or disapproval, I will purchase it tomorrow if there is support.
>>>
>>> Andrew Adamson
>>> UCC President
>>> bob at ucc.asn.au
>>>
>>> |"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."
>>> |
>>> | ---Peter's Laws
>>> ?|
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Ash Tyndall [ASH]
>> 2011 Fresher Rep
>>
>
>
>

From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan 30 16:45:10 2012
From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:45:10 +0800
Subject: [committee] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301436170.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
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On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 02:51:15PM +0800, Bob Adamson wrote:
> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Label-Machines/SASD58480

From experience, that may be a little too small.

If it doesn't have a "." key, it'll suck quite a lot for typing IPv4
addresses or FQDNs. A ":" or "-" key would be nice.

Nick.

-- 
   Nick Bannon   | "I made this letter longer than usual because
nick-sig at rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon Jan 30 17:54:14 2012
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2012 17:54:14 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <20120130084510.GY30373@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
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	<20120130084510.GY30373@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
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Just to clarify, the model I proposed can do punctuation and symbols, 
there's just no easy button for it and it will require several button 
presses. I spent an hour looking at other labellers as well as the cost 
and range available for matching tapes. Given the cost of alternative 
tapes is double the cost of the Dymo tapes, and the fact that it will be 
used relatively infrequently, I still think my original proposal is the 
best.

Also, for large productions of labels with IP addresses, it would be as 
simple as deleting the numbers, leaving the four dots on the screen and 
then putting in new numbers. We could also save four dots as a stored 
label to make things faster the next time. So not all that 
terrible/unusable in my opinion.

Andrew Adamson
UCC President
bob at ucc.asn.au

|"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Nick Bannon wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 02:51:15PM +0800, Bob Adamson wrote:
> > http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Label-Machines/SASD58480
> 
> From experience, that may be a little too small.
> 
> If it doesn't have a "." key, it'll suck quite a lot for typing IPv4
> addresses or FQDNs. A ":" or "-" key would be nice.
> 
> Nick.
> 
> -- 
>    Nick Bannon   | "I made this letter longer than usual because
> nick-sig at rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal
> 

From tpg at ucc.asn.au  Tue Jan 31 10:47:55 2012
From: tpg at ucc.asn.au (John Hodge)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:47:55 +0800
Subject: [committee] Label Printer
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301743290.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301436170.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
	<20120130084510.GY30373@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
	<alpine.DEB.2.00.1201301743290.28908@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <4F27565B.1060709@ucc.asn.au>

IP addresses? Isn't that what DNS is for? :)

If this is the best one you can find, I'm for it. Esp. since it's nice 
and cheap.

  John Hodge [TPG]
  2011 Treasurer

On 30/01/12 17:54, Bob Adamson wrote:
> Just to clarify, the model I proposed can do punctuation and symbols,
> there's just no easy button for it and it will require several button
> presses. I spent an hour looking at other labellers as well as the cost
> and range available for matching tapes. Given the cost of alternative
> tapes is double the cost of the Dymo tapes, and the fact that it will be
> used relatively infrequently, I still think my original proposal is the
> best.
>
> Also, for large productions of labels with IP addresses, it would be as
> simple as deleting the numbers, leaving the four dots on the screen and
> then putting in new numbers. We could also save four dots as a stored
> label to make things faster the next time. So not all that
> terrible/unusable in my opinion.
>
> Andrew Adamson
> UCC President
> bob at ucc.asn.au
>
> |"The faster you move, the slower time passes, the longer you live."     |
> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
>
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2012, Nick Bannon wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 02:51:15PM +0800, Bob Adamson wrote:
>>> http://www.officeworks.com.au/retail/products/Office-Supplies/Labelling/Label-Machines/SASD58480
>>
>>  From experience, that may be a little too small.
>>
>> If it doesn't have a "." key, it'll suck quite a lot for typing IPv4
>> addresses or FQDNs. A ":" or "-" key would be nice.
>>
>> Nick.
>>
>> --
>>     Nick Bannon   | "I made this letter longer than usual because
>> nick-sig at rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal
>>

From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue Jan 31 18:00:01 2012
From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon)
Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:00:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [committee] 24 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting General
	Business
Message-ID: <20120131100001.11EE460071@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

General Business
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