From pabx-reports at ucs.uwa.edu.au Mon Dec 2 09:07:39 2013 From: pabx-reports at ucs.uwa.edu.au (pabx-reports at ucs.uwa.edu.au) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 09:07:39 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] [PABX] Group Summary - PDF Message-ID: <20131202010739.4598C8B33E@new-charon.its.uwa.edu.au> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20131202/4e5201ab/attachment.txt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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See you there, Erin Starship Trooper 2013 From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Dec 4 16:48:14 2013 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Adamson) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 16:48:14 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting Saturday 14th November 2pm In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I will be unable to make this meeting as the 14th of November was three weeks ago. Andrew Adamson bob at ucc.asn.au |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | | ---Peter's Laws | On Wed, 4 Dec 2013, Erin Steicke wrote: > Hi ya'll, > > it's that time of the time again, time for committee meeting time! Saturday > the 14th of November, 2pm is where it's at, for all committee related > business. Everyone should be there, send apologies if you can't etc. > > At this meeting we'll also begin working/continue planning for the projects > (see last meeting's minutes), so if you've volunteered for one, you should > come as well. > > See you there, > Erin > Starship Trooper 2013 > From vix at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Dec 4 17:09:10 2013 From: vix at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Erin Steicke) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:09:10 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting (these RE:s are supposed to match the original message aren't they?) Message-ID: Hi all, as was pointed out, committee meeting is actually in December, on December the 14th, Saturday, at 2pm. Thanks, wonda From bob_george33 at hotmail.com Wed Dec 4 17:11:41 2013 From: bob_george33 at hotmail.com (Mitchell Pomery) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:11:41 +0800 Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting (these RE:s are supposed to match the original message aren't they?) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey, I may be unable to make it as it is my nanna and pop's anniversary that night and I am supposed to be somewhere for it. Mitch [BG3] ---------------------------------------- > Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2013 17:09:10 +0800 > From: vix at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > To: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > Subject: Re: [committee] Committee Meeting (these RE:s are supposed to match the original message aren't they?) > > Hi all, > > as was pointed out, committee meeting is actually in December, on December > the 14th, Saturday, at 2pm. > > Thanks, > wonda From matches at ucc.asn.au Sun Dec 8 20:00:58 2013 From: matches at ucc.asn.au (matches at ucc.asn.au) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 20:00:58 +0800 Subject: [committee] Triforce Ball Proposal Document In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <47b0032f447984fecc9bca58242ce2fb@secure.ucc.asn.au> To summarise, these are the details of the proposed ball as I can decipher them (please read the below emails as well): Date: 2014-09-06 (Saturday) 7:00pm until Midnight Venue: Parmelia Hilton, Perth Cost breakdown: - $20340 for food - $715 for security - $5000 refundable bond for security which we lose if someone does something stupid - Split between the three clubs UniSFA, UCC, Unigames: 40%, 40%, 20% - See [SAS]'s original email for how much and when we would be committed to spend it. Importantly, we have to commit to this on/by 2013-12-19 (next Thursday). And if we cancel (starting from that date) we are still committed to paying at least 50% of the costs. According to the document we should be aiming for 180 people, which makes ~$120 each (for no profit) or ~$150 if we assume we lose the bond. I have some questions about this, some of them are probably stupider than others: 1. On what is the 4:4:2 split based? What evidence is there that UCC/UniSFA will have significantly more people attend than Unigames? Admittedly, people with dual membership makes this difficult to work out exactly. 2. Are we convinced that UCC will be able to get 108 people (so at a minimum 54 members who bring partners) to come to this event for that price? Personally I have my doubts. Maybe the facebook poll can convince me otherwise. 3. Are we aiming to make a profit or expecting a loss, and how much could we expect whatever it is to be? 4. Are there more details available on what exactly we get? Like what the food is? 5. If we want to continue our policy of not touching the term deposit, can we actually afford this, as well as the other things we are budgeting for during those months, or do we need to make compromises? Some comments on budgeting: We agreed to spend up to $5000 on a storage server over this summer. We are expected to invest about $1000 back into the term deposit in January. People want to buy a $400 occulus rift before O'Day. 6. Do we want to force next committee into this (since it will happen under their watch)? This may be redundant if next committee is mostly the same as this year's. 7. Are there any (possibly cheaper) alternatives? I am really not interested in attending this event myself, but if there is significant demand for it then I am in favour of it happening. At the moment I'm not really convinced (as proposed) that it is a good idea for our club though. I would rather we spent money on a 40th Anniversary Dinner. Or servers! Who needs social events when you can listen to the soothing hum of the machine room on a Friday night... [SZM] Vice President 2013 On 08.12.2013 18:44, Samuel Shenton wrote: > I assume you didn't read the attachment. > > The proposed spending of money is the venue cost which includes venue > hire, food, drinks, security, etc. As is outlined in the attachment. > > Decorations and Promotional Material is not covered but that will be a > much smaller amount. > > On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, Mitchell Pomery wrote: > >> Just some questions about this: >> $10,000 for our 40% share? That makes this a $25,000 event. Or is this >> supposed to be the payments we would have to meet to run the event? >> >> All fine and dandy that we have amounts we would spend, but can we get >> a >> rough breakdown of what it would be spent on? >> >> Mitch >> >> > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 14:06:34 +0800 >> > From: samuel at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> > To: committee-only at ucc.asn.au >> > Subject: Triforce Ball Proposal Document >> > >> > Hello, >> > >> > Since the original idea of a ball between the three major clubs of Cameron >> > Hall was approved for further investigation by the committee, those >> > organising have looked at many potential venues. >> > >> > After the meeting of the three clubs last Friday we now have a proposed >> > contract detailing the particulars of a ball hosted on the 6th September >> > 2014 at the Parmelia Hilton which is attached. >> > >> > At this stage the proposed split of financial risk is as follows: >> > ~ 40% UCC >> > ~ 40% UniSFA >> > ~ 20% Unigames >> > >> > The following would be approximate payments made by UCC: >> > ~ $2000 deposit >> > ~ $3200 by June >> > ~ $2800 by August >> > ~ $2000 by August end >> > >> > As the club with an existing westpac account we would likely create a >> > separate account to manage the money from the clubs and its expenditure. >> > >> > There will be a seperate briefing to the public list soon. >> > >> > Feel free to ask questions, >> > [SAS] >> >> From oxinabox at ucc.asn.au Sun Dec 8 20:22:06 2013 From: oxinabox at ucc.asn.au (Frames) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 20:22:06 +0800 Subject: [committee] Triforce Ball Proposal Document In-Reply-To: <47b0032f447984fecc9bca58242ce2fb@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <47b0032f447984fecc9bca58242ce2fb@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <52A4646E.2040806@ucc.asn.au> >1. On what is the 4:4:2 split based? What evidence is there that UCC/UniSFA will have significantly more people attend than Unigames? >Admittedly, people with dual membership makes this difficult to work out exactly. I believe it is on the basis that Unigames literally can not afford to pay 1/3rd the upfront costs. As it is I have issue with Unigames being able to pay 1/5th costs. (Unigames is in poor financial straights because of recent thefts). The deal is that Unigames will only get 1/5th the profits as well. I will send a transcipt of the discussions by Unigames, in more general regards in a seperate email. (I have permission to do so) Regards [*OX] matches at ucc.asn.au wrote: > To summarise, these are the details of the proposed ball as I can > decipher them (please read the below emails as well): > > Date: 2014-09-06 (Saturday) 7:00pm until Midnight > Venue: Parmelia Hilton, Perth > Cost breakdown: > - $20340 for food > - $715 for security > - $5000 refundable bond for security which we lose if someone does > something stupid > - Split between the three clubs UniSFA, UCC, Unigames: 40%, 40%, 20% > - See [SAS]'s original email for how much and when we would be > committed to spend it. > > Importantly, we have to commit to this on/by 2013-12-19 (next > Thursday). And if we cancel (starting from that date) we are still > committed to paying at least 50% of the costs. > > According to the document we should be aiming for 180 people, which > makes ~$120 each (for no profit) or ~$150 if we assume we lose the bond. > > I have some questions about this, some of them are probably stupider > than others: > > > > 2. Are we convinced that UCC will be able to get 108 people (so at a > minimum 54 members who bring partners) to come to this event for that > price? Personally I have my doubts. Maybe the facebook poll can > convince me otherwise. > > 3. Are we aiming to make a profit or expecting a loss, and how much > could we expect whatever it is to be? > > 4. Are there more details available on what exactly we get? Like what > the food is? > > 5. If we want to continue our policy of not touching the term deposit, > can we actually afford this, as well as the other things we are > budgeting for during those months, or do we need to make compromises? > > Some comments on budgeting: We agreed to spend up to $5000 on a > storage server over this summer. We are expected to invest about $1000 > back into the term deposit in January. People want to buy a $400 > occulus rift before O'Day. > > 6. Do we want to force next committee into this (since it will happen > under their watch)? This may be redundant if next committee is mostly > the same as this year's. > > 7. Are there any (possibly cheaper) alternatives? > > I am really not interested in attending this event myself, but if > there is significant demand for it then I am in favour of it > happening. At the moment I'm not really convinced (as proposed) that > it is a good idea for our club though. I would rather we spent money > on a 40th Anniversary Dinner. Or servers! Who needs social events when > you can listen to the soothing hum of the machine room on a Friday > night... > > > [SZM] > Vice President 2013 > > > On 08.12.2013 18:44, Samuel Shenton wrote: >> I assume you didn't read the attachment. >> >> The proposed spending of money is the venue cost which includes venue >> hire, food, drinks, security, etc. As is outlined in the attachment. >> >> Decorations and Promotional Material is not covered but that will be a >> much smaller amount. >> >> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, Mitchell Pomery wrote: >> >>> Just some questions about this: >>> $10,000 for our 40% share? That makes this a $25,000 event. Or is this >>> supposed to be the payments we would have to meet to run the event? >>> >>> All fine and dandy that we have amounts we would spend, but can we >>> get a >>> rough breakdown of what it would be spent on? >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 14:06:34 +0800 >>> > From: samuel at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >>> > To: committee-only at ucc.asn.au >>> > Subject: Triforce Ball Proposal Document >>> > >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > Since the original idea of a ball between the three major clubs of >>> Cameron >>> > Hall was approved for further investigation by the committee, those >>> > organising have looked at many potential venues. >>> > >>> > After the meeting of the three clubs last Friday we now have a >>> proposed >>> > contract detailing the particulars of a ball hosted on the 6th >>> September >>> > 2014 at the Parmelia Hilton which is attached. >>> > >>> > At this stage the proposed split of financial risk is as follows: >>> > ~ 40% UCC >>> > ~ 40% UniSFA >>> > ~ 20% Unigames >>> > >>> > The following would be approximate payments made by UCC: >>> > ~ $2000 deposit >>> > ~ $3200 by June >>> > ~ $2800 by August >>> > ~ $2000 by August end >>> > >>> > As the club with an existing westpac account we would likely create a >>> > separate account to manage the money from the clubs and its >>> expenditure. >>> > >>> > There will be a seperate briefing to the public list soon. >>> > >>> > Feel free to ask questions, >>> > [SAS] >>> >>> From matches at ucc.asn.au Sun Dec 8 20:07:09 2013 From: matches at ucc.asn.au (matches at ucc.asn.au) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 20:07:09 +0800 Subject: [committee] Triforce Ball Proposal Document In-Reply-To: <47b0032f447984fecc9bca58242ce2fb@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <47b0032f447984fecc9bca58242ce2fb@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <62c568957f6aa6989d3e4f56a6b927d9@secure.ucc.asn.au> I forgot the attachment, and I also forgot to tell you all that [SAS]'s internet is dead and he asked me to send this to committee, but I added my rants while doing it to save having to do two emails. [SZM] On 08.12.2013 20:00, matches at ucc.asn.au wrote: > To summarise, these are the details of the proposed ball as I can > decipher them (please read the below emails as well): > > Date: 2014-09-06 (Saturday) 7:00pm until Midnight > Venue: Parmelia Hilton, Perth > Cost breakdown: > - $20340 for food > - $715 for security > - $5000 refundable bond for security which we lose if someone does > something stupid > - Split between the three clubs UniSFA, UCC, Unigames: 40%, 40%, 20% > - See [SAS]'s original email for how much and when we would be > committed to spend it. > > Importantly, we have to commit to this on/by 2013-12-19 (next > Thursday). And if we cancel (starting from that date) we are still > committed to paying at least 50% of the costs. > > According to the document we should be aiming for 180 people, which > makes ~$120 each (for no profit) or ~$150 if we assume we lose the > bond. > > I have some questions about this, some of them are probably stupider > than others: > > 1. On what is the 4:4:2 split based? What evidence is there that > UCC/UniSFA will have significantly more people attend than Unigames? > Admittedly, people with dual membership makes this difficult to work > out exactly. > > 2. Are we convinced that UCC will be able to get 108 people (so at a > minimum 54 members who bring partners) to come to this event for that > price? Personally I have my doubts. Maybe the facebook poll can > convince me otherwise. > > 3. Are we aiming to make a profit or expecting a loss, and how much > could we expect whatever it is to be? > > 4. Are there more details available on what exactly we get? Like what > the food is? > > 5. If we want to continue our policy of not touching the term deposit, > can we actually afford this, as well as the other things we are > budgeting for during those months, or do we need to make compromises? > > Some comments on budgeting: We agreed to spend up to $5000 on a > storage server over this summer. We are expected to invest about $1000 > back into the term deposit in January. People want to buy a $400 > occulus rift before O'Day. > > 6. Do we want to force next committee into this (since it will happen > under their watch)? This may be redundant if next committee is mostly > the same as this year's. > > 7. Are there any (possibly cheaper) alternatives? > > I am really not interested in attending this event myself, but if > there is significant demand for it then I am in favour of it > happening. At the moment I'm not really convinced (as proposed) that > it is a good idea for our club though. I would rather we spent money > on a 40th Anniversary Dinner. Or servers! Who needs social events when > you can listen to the soothing hum of the machine room on a Friday > night... > > > [SZM] > Vice President 2013 > > > On 08.12.2013 18:44, Samuel Shenton wrote: >> I assume you didn't read the attachment. >> >> The proposed spending of money is the venue cost which includes venue >> hire, food, drinks, security, etc. As is outlined in the attachment. >> >> Decorations and Promotional Material is not covered but that will be a >> much smaller amount. >> >> On Sun, 8 Dec 2013, Mitchell Pomery wrote: >> >>> Just some questions about this: >>> $10,000 for our 40% share? That makes this a $25,000 event. Or is >>> this >>> supposed to be the payments we would have to meet to run the event? >>> >>> All fine and dandy that we have amounts we would spend, but can we >>> get a >>> rough breakdown of what it would be spent on? >>> >>> Mitch >>> >>> > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 14:06:34 +0800 >>> > From: samuel at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >>> > To: committee-only at ucc.asn.au >>> > Subject: Triforce Ball Proposal Document >>> > >>> > Hello, >>> > >>> > Since the original idea of a ball between the three major clubs of Cameron >>> > Hall was approved for further investigation by the committee, those >>> > organising have looked at many potential venues. >>> > >>> > After the meeting of the three clubs last Friday we now have a proposed >>> > contract detailing the particulars of a ball hosted on the 6th September >>> > 2014 at the Parmelia Hilton which is attached. >>> > >>> > At this stage the proposed split of financial risk is as follows: >>> > ~ 40% UCC >>> > ~ 40% UniSFA >>> > ~ 20% Unigames >>> > >>> > The following would be approximate payments made by UCC: >>> > ~ $2000 deposit >>> > ~ $3200 by June >>> > ~ $2800 by August >>> > ~ $2000 by August end >>> > >>> > As the club with an existing westpac account we would likely create a >>> > separate account to manage the money from the clubs and its expenditure. >>> > >>> > There will be a seperate briefing to the public list soon. >>> > >>> > Feel free to ask questions, >>> > [SAS] >>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: UWA Triforce Gala Dinner and dance contract short.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 1907717 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20131208/6013f51c/attachment-0001.pdf From oxinabox at ucc.asn.au Sun Dec 8 20:35:44 2013 From: oxinabox at ucc.asn.au (Frames) Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2013 20:35:44 +0800 Subject: [committee] Triforce Ball Proposal Document Message-ID: <52A467A0.2030208@ucc.asn.au> Discussion, Unigames Committee is having about CH Ball Since The discussion on the UCC lists is going to be similar, I will save everyone some time, and promote debate. The important points are: *Need 165 Attendee's* For this to break even we need 165 guests. That is more than teracon, wizard camp and ucc camp combined. The ticket price is going to be significantly higher than any of the those events. I question if we can pull this off. Cheaper, Less High Class options should be considered. For sake of reference I threw together another option if we were to "build our own" rather than buying a turn key solution. These are just things i could quickly find the price for online: if we were to rent the Perth Town Hall, it would be about $1320.75, for 6 hours for 100 People that is including security guard, table's being set up and put away, but not including food or booze. Throw an extra $2000 for booze (that is 20 cartons of beer/cider and 30 bottles of wine) Throw an extra $1500 for light catering (hot fingerfood, i priced from Miss Maud's, tghis would be a ton). Throw $600 for a DJ/sound gear hire. Rounding up that is $5500. (Vs $21,000 at Hilton) So selling tickets for $85 each to get a $3000 profit. (Vs $130 at the Hilton) I have attached the full transcipt below. My apologies for the aweful HTML email. [*OX] UCC Wheel Member Unigames IPP Grumpy Old Dude This is a copy of the discussion about a propopsed CH ball, from the Unigames Committee Facebook. (Accurate to 8:34PM today, relitive timestamps inconsistant.) Rowan Ashwin So had a meeting at the Hilton with regards to the Triforce Ball. In a one sentence summary, it was productive, we are getting an awesome deal, and the staff at seem pretty good at working with students. There are heaps of details that we have decided on, which I can talk about in the meeting if you so wish, but considering our financial situation (which is decent but nowhere near the other two clubs) I suggested that we split the deposit/costs 20% Unigames, and 40% each for the two other clubs. Keep in mind, paying 20% of costs means 20% of profits (though profits will not be immense). This is the Lower risk/lower reward option. Ultimately what this means for Unigames in the short term is a $1000 deposit before the 19th of Dec. I highly recommend taking this course of action. Like seriously this better pass at the next meeting. Speaking of which, organise Uncharitable Vigil/ get event page up ASAP plz. And I finish work on Monday at 5:30... but will come try and make it to uni as soon as possible after. Like ? ? Unfollow Post ? 6 December at 16:01 * * Seen by 8 * Rowan Ashwin I suppose I'll elaborate a bit (since I won't be there at the start of the meeting...) In total the ball will cost 26,055. including a 5000 bond which is refundable (ie net cost will be 21,055). OUR club will need to deposit 1k now, and another 1.4k next year before we start ticket sales. We will very likely get a lion nathan grant from guild to help out. After ticket sales start we should be fine for money. In the last two years only 1 ball has ever lost part of their deposit (for damages) but we are budgeting such that should we have our full deposit returned, we will gain a significant profit (about $3000 between the clubs, ie Unigames will get about $600). We are currently planning on selling tickets for $130 each, or $134 if bought online... If you have ANY more questions, we discussed a huge amount of details at the meeting (like half the organization has already been done) Please try to bring up questions on fb BEFORE the meeting on Monday so that we don't have to talk about it for ages/can spend more time on uncharitable vigil. 6 December at 17:11 ? Like * Ryan Xyrrath Nicholson wait, this is actually a thing? 6 December at 18:06 ? Like ? 1 * Rowan Ashwin Yes Ryan, this is indeed a thing. 6 December at 18:12 ? Like * Ryan Xyrrath Nicholson disgusting 6 December at 18:12 ? Like * Rowan Ashwin (Oh yeah I should probably mention that the date we are planning on booking for is the 6/9/2014 6 December at 18:12 ? Like * Jonathan Van Buren So we are investing 2.4k for a $600 profit? 6 December at 21:00 ? Like * Jonathan Van Buren What date do we expect returns? 6 December at 21:01 ? Like * Jonathan Van Buren How many people need to attend to ensure we cover the costs? 6 December at 21:02 ? Like * Rowan Ashwin a) Yes, though not only is it the best thing we could be doing with our money, but its also providing a service to members. b) we plan to start closed ticket sales in the last week of semester one, so returns should start then (and continue over the winter break) Ticket sales then open up to general public come the start of semester 2. c) We are budgeting for 180 people, though we have room for 200 (or maybe even more) to attend should demand be larger then we expect. We have discussed ALOT of plans with regards to hitting this target of 180. (minimum number of attendees to cover costs will vary, as costs are not entirely set in stone, but so long as we get above 165 I believe we will break even.) Yesterday at 02:22 ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White 165 attendee's is pretty unlikely. 165 people makes this bigger than wizard camp, UCC camp and Teracon combined. and more expensive ticket price than any one of them. We had allot of people have issues paying for Wizard Camp because it was too expensive. We didn't get that attendance at charity vigil, and charity vigil is cheaper. One could argue that people will bring partners to this, but people did to charity vigil as well. We are not investing in a 20% share of the profit, we are investing in a 20% share of the loss. The Hilton is, as I've said before, are really dumb venue. It is far too upscale and is priced like it. If we want to do this at all, we should go for something far lower key, this first time, and if it works out, then we can do something better next year. 17 hours ago ? Edited ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White As a comparison, if we were to rent the Perth Town Hall, it would be about $1320.75, for 6 hours for 100 People that is including security guard, table's being set up and put away, but not including food or booze. Throw an extra $2000 for booze (that is 20 cartons of beer/cider and 30 bottles of wine) Throw an extra $1500 for light catering (hot fingerfood, i priced from Miss Maud's, tghis would be a ton). Throw $600 for a DJ/sound gear hire. Rounding up that is $5500. (Vs $21,000 at Hilton) This would be a less high key even than something at the hilton, but it would still be pretty fancy. It is the Perth Town Hall, for goodness sake. So selling tickets for $85 each to get a $3000 profit. I'm not saying the town hall is the best place, but there are cheaper, places that the bleeding Hilton. This price is just what i could look up on short notice, without getting quotes. 17 hours ago ? Edited ? Like ? 1 * Benjamin Armstrong It doesn't help that it's directly competing with Wizard Camp/Terracon/UCC camp for the 'expensive Cameron hall event' slot. People aren't going to be willing to fork out large amounts of money to attend multiple of these events within a relatively short time frame, particularly the freshers. As a result, I don't believe that we will reasonably be able to sell more tickets than Terracon can, and at a higher price too. Sure, it has some novelty in being the unique 'Cameron Ball', but I'd wager that this would turn more people away than attract them. In addition, even if we do manage to break even, I would expect to see people much less willing to attend the other expensive events as they've already spent so much. If it came down to people deciding only to attend one camp and the ball, I would not expect a strong showing at Wizard Camp. tl;dr - I still think the ball is a bad idea and I feel that it directly competes with future Unigames events. 11 hours ago ? Edited ? Like ? 1 * Rowan Ashwin Eugh, I suppose its my job to reply to these complaints. The way I see it there are 3 big complaints: a) doubt that we will reach the numbers required, b) competition with other events and c) less expensive alternatives would be preferable. a) This isthe most legit complaint imo and it ultimately gets broken down into two parts. One is that we don't get enough people full stop, which I believe won't happen. There is already serious expressed interest in 1-2 tables for curtins Sci-Fi club (who might be considering running their own) It would be easy as pie for me to sell 1-2 tables worth of tickets to guild hacks. IMO science union would probs grab a table, if tickets go on general sale I think there would be at least a few more tables sold to people who REALLY want balls but are missing out on them (which is actually quite a large group outside of cameron hall). Then keep in mind that people in Cameron Hall will be bringing +1's and friends (moreso then an event like Terracon) and we only need to sell 16-17 tables to break even (pretty sure Unigames could get at least 1, UCC get at least 1 or 2 and Unisfa already would be looking at 5-6 tables.) The second part of this complaint is that the event will be flooded with people who aren't even a part of the clubs/non-members... this is also a legit complaint though we will try as best in presales to make sure EVERYONE who wants to go amongst the clubs can, and hey, if the night is successful we may even get more members out of the event. b) This answer should also help the case for a) since it implies increased demand for tickets. Terracon Will Not Be Happening Next Year. This means there will be No competition with terracon (though still competition with UCC camp/ Unigames Camp) Terracon is by FAR the largest, and a lot of the people who normally go to it would love something else to try out/replace the event with. I do see the complaint about competition with our own events, but this year is the BEST year for it (as terracon is very likely to come back in 2015). Also when it comes down to it, if we are talking about it being a bad thing that we run too many events and that they are interfering with one another it seems a little self defeating Like one way of looking at this is that it shows Unigames as a club capable of running well organized events of any description, which makes us MORE appealing, not less. A busy timetable can be a good thing. c) We have looked into some less expensive alternatives, but ultimately we decided amongst the ball committee (/Kate strongly pressed for) a fancier ball. Trust me the Hilton is REALLY NICE. Especially for the price we are getting it. Organizing seperate catering, completely organizing our own decorations (to the point where a town hall looks respectable) as well as our own lights/music, bartenders/open bar, dance floor, security and other staff is a nightmarish responsibility, and if anything goes wrong we are to blame. The Hilton not only has experience in all of this but their food is good quality, and every single ball held there in the last year was an incredible success (not to mention tickets sold out for ALL of them within a week of being on sale, showing again the huge demand for them (amongst the wider university)) Also ultimately the Ball Committee (the people actually organizing it) have decided this as the best venue. And what it comes down to is not whether the event *could* be better, but a kind of Yes/No as to whether this event we are suggesting sounds like a worthwhile investment for Unigames. I could negotiate to pay even less of the deposit... maybe, though keeping in mind we are already paying half/getting half. But this is looking like it will be a profitable event, regardless of the money we have to outlay (which would be doing absolutely nothing otherwise), and every profitable event we have in the year is a good thing in my books. I understand that these don't necessarily address all of the concerns, and are not entirely complete answers (as some are based on speculation, especially answer a) but I hope this at least addresses some concerns. 29 minutes ago ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White A) "Then keep in mind that people in Cameron Hall will be bringing +1's and friends (moreso then an event like Terracon)" Moreso than terracon? Citation needed. I suspect if you ask Alice, for the list of teracon attendee's you will find large numbers of nonCH regulars. Also for reference how many people to a table? 25 minutes ago ? Edited ? Like * Rowan Ashwin 10. the point of that statement was it is easier to convince a non member to come to an event for one night, located in perth, then to drive 3 hours to hang out for 3 days with a bunch of people they may not know very well. This would be especially true for couples where one of the couple is a non-member/ doesn't really know anyone. They *do* come on Terracon occasionally but are few and far between. 23 minutes ago ? Like * Rowan Ashwin (10 people per table, 18-20 tables would be ideal) 22 minutes ago ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White A) I see, I honestly would like you to back that up with numbers. B.) You are strawman-ing slightly there. The complain wasn't clash with own events, it was Clash with other expensive events. Also Citation on Teracon not happening. I spoke to the director os student services, a few weeks back, and as far as he was concerned it could happen again and that they had already had talked with Unisfa about how to make sure it could 21 minutes ago ? Edited ? Like * Rowan Ashwin Yeah its a slight Strawman but there is still alot of truth behind it and Terracon is still classed as an expensive event. Speak to ANYONE in unisfa committee, and you'll know that its practically guaranteed not to happen next year. Also it is very difficult for me to back up a) with numbers, as you well know, but I assure you it will be the most enthusiastically advertised event of the year. 17 minutes ago ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White C) "The ball Committee"? Neither Unigames, nor UCC has ever voted to put a representativeness on a Ball Committee. Neither UCC or Unigames has voted to put a person onto the CH forum either (and thus CH forum has no mandate). also, don't be too influenced by Kate. While she is influential and good at arguing her points. She is far from a typical member, these days. Her priorities are different. She is not a undergrad student (is she even a student all all?), and she has alot more money than most. I don't think she has ever been in a position alot of CH people have, of having to scrimp for food money. Have you been to the Town Hall? I was at a wedding there a few weeks back. It is swanky, and nice. We wouldn't need to spend hardly anything on decorating. 16 minutes ago ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White A) it is not at all hard to back up teracons attendance with numbers of nonCH regular attendee's. I can do that myself, trivially. I know Unisfa has a list of all attendees from this year, as it was given to the University as part of the complaint inve...See More 13 minutes ago ? Edited ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White WRT numbers an option would be to Super PreSell tickets, prior to the deposit being made, at/below cost. Super Early Bird. This would give some idea of how much actual intrest there is 10 minutes ago ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White Do people mind if I share a copy of this thread with other people? 9 minutes ago ? Like * Rowan Ashwin In a Unigames meeting we did agree that me and Sarah were the representatives in charge of the ball. Sam Shenton (who supposedly has the power to speak on behalf of his committee... at least moreso then anyone else) is representative from UCC, so I feel like the committee was actually a thing that people agreed to. Though I will take your suggestion of town hall to Kate and seriously debate it out. also I don't really mind if you share the thread, but keep in mind alot of the details aren't completely set in stone. 6 minutes ago ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White Town Hall isn't actually my suggestion, it is more just an example that other options exist. (Though i do think that the Town Hall could work, quiet well.) WRT selection you and Sarah as representatives in charge of the ball, at least my thoughts on that discussion, was the committee took the idea of a ball so seriously, that we might as well have said: "Yes, you guys can be king and queen of R'lyeh." But yeah, you are right, that was generally agreed to. about a minute ago ? Edited ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White Ok, all the teracon hut lists can be found on http://wiki.unisfa.asn.au/Terracon?action=info I did a count for 2009 (my first year), a fairly conservitive year for bringing outsiders, and oursiders made up: 18/61 attendee's ie 29% in 2012, a notably high year for outsiders, 39/101 ie 39% These counts are kinda rough, but should provide a some indication. 6 hours ago ? Like ? Remove Preview * Lyndon 'Frames' White Why would Science Union grab a table? They have their own ball? I've not heard of members beyond there committee being around and involved, though i guess that is because they haven't finished setting there room up. You think their committee is going to buy a table? At $130/ticket that is quiet a show of support 6 hours ago ? Like * Lyndon 'Frames' White Also C) "(not to mention tickets sold out for ALL of them within a week of being on sale, showing again the huge demand for them (amongst the wider university))" How many of those balls held there before were Faculty Soc. Balls? Fac Socs have thousands of members, only a small portion of which attend the ball. We are in the opposite position, we have at best a pool of hundreds of people who might be interested, (inc partners and friends), the majority of which would have to attend for us to get the numbers we need. Don't be over confidant with the ability to get numbers. JVB thought we could easily 60 people for wizard camp. 5 hours ago ? Like * Jonathan Van Buren Terracon is not out of the ball park. Do not count on that. 5 hours ago ? 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Name: 1237111_10151688038782424_1028145414_t.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1423 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20131208/1d7e56d5/attachment-0005.jpg From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 8 21:14:28 2013 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 21:14:28 +0800 Subject: [committee] Triforce Ball Proposal Document In-Reply-To: <52A467A0.2030208@ucc.asn.au> References: <52A467A0.2030208@ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: Having dusted myself off after a brief period on the floor after falling off my chair at the cost, I'd make the following points as someone who's organised a couple of conferences, awards evenings and has the hindsight of being a past president trying to get UCC members interested. 1: 165 or 180 people (whichever one of the figures you use from the above emails) is ambitious - even with packing out 16% from Curtin and Science Union and possibly another 11% for "Guild Hacks" leaves you with a considerable number of tickets the clubs must sell to make the event viable and I'll be blunt I don't think you'll get enough interest, that's just my 2 cents though. 2: A set 3 course meal creates more hassle with having to manage dietary requirements and is likely more costly, was a buffet considered? It's not as swish but may actually work better, especially for the crowd? 3: The above costs don't include any entertainment, decorations/staging, ticketing or marketing - these costs are likely another $4,000-$7,000 depending on how elaborate you are with the decor/staging/lighting so the cost actually looks more like $30,000. 3.1: As such, is it worth the financial risk to the club, especially given how much money must be forfeited. 3.2: I'm also concerned about the trade-offs around the club (especially decreasing funds left to do things like fixing up the clubroom etc) given the commitment 3.3: What's the ROI, the objects of the club aren't achieved by committing to this event and while it's a lovely social opportunity I wonder if its the sensible investment when perhaps an alternate cheaper events (I know, I know...it's been considered and the ball committee think this is best - maybe a ball is the wrong idea altogether). As [SZM] has also said, we have our 40th anniversary next year which should be considered in the event space. Yours antisocially and black cloudly [MRD] On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Frames wrote: > Discussion, Unigames Committee is having about CH Ball > Since The discussion on the UCC lists is going to be similar, I will save > everyone some time, > and promote debate. > > The important points are: > *Need 165 Attendee's* > For this to break even we need 165 guests. That is more than teracon, > wizard camp and ucc camp combined. The ticket price is going to be > significantly higher than any of the those events. I question if we can > pull this off. > > Cheaper, Less High Class options should be considered. > For sake of reference I threw together another option if we were to "build > our own" rather than buying a turn key solution. > These are just things i could quickly find the price for online: > if we were to rent the Perth Town Hall, it would be about $1320.75, for > 6 hours for 100 People > that is including security guard, table's being set up and put away, but > not including food or booze. > Throw an extra $2000 for booze (that is 20 cartons of beer/cider and 30 > bottles of wine) > Throw an extra $1500 for light catering (hot fingerfood, i priced from > Miss Maud's, tghis would be a ton). > Throw $600 for a DJ/sound gear hire. > > Rounding up that is $5500. (Vs $21,000 at Hilton) > So selling tickets for $85 each to get a $3000 profit. (Vs $130 at the > Hilton) > > > I have attached the full transcipt below. > My apologies for the aweful HTML email. > [*OX] > UCC Wheel Member > Unigames IPP > Grumpy Old Dude > > > > This is a copy of the discussion about a propopsed CH ball, from the > Unigames Committee Facebook. (Accurate to 8:34PM today, relitive > timestamps inconsistant.) > > > > Rowan Ashwin > So had a meeting at the Hilton with regards to the Triforce Ball. In a > one sentence summary, it was productive, we are getting an awesome deal, > and the staff at seem pretty good at working with students. > There are heaps of details that we have decided on, which I can talk about > in the meeting if you so wish, but considering our financial situation > (which is decent but nowhere near the other two clubs) I suggested that we > split the deposit/costs 20% Unigames, and 40% each for the two other clubs. > Keep in mind, paying 20% of costs means 20% of profits (though profits will > not be immense). This is the Lower risk/lower reward option. > > Ultimately what this means for Unigames in the short term is a $1000 > deposit before the 19th of Dec. I highly recommend taking this course of > action. Like seriously this better pass at the next meeting. > > Speaking of which, organise Uncharitable Vigil/ get event page up ASAP plz. > And I finish work on Monday at 5:30... but will come try and make it to > uni as soon as possible after. > Like? ? > Unfollow Post? 6 > December at 16:01 > > - > - Seen by 8 > - > Rowan Ashwin I suppose I'll > elaborate a bit (since I won't be there at the start of the meeting...) > In total the ball will cost 26,055. including a 5000 bond which is > refundable (ie net cost will be 21,055). OUR club will need to deposit 1k > now, and another 1.4k next year before we start ticket sales. We will > very likely get a lion nathan grant from guild to help out. After ticket > sales start we should be fine for money. In the last two years only 1 ball > has ever lost part of their deposit (for damages) but we are budgeting such > that should we have our full deposit returned, we will gain a significant > profit (about $3000 between the clubs, ie Unigames will get about $600). > We are currently planning on selling tickets for $130 each, or $134 if > bought online... > If you have ANY more questions, we discussed a huge amount of details > at the meeting (like half the organization has already been done) Please > try to bring up questions on fb BEFORE the meeting on Monday so that we > don't have to talk about it for ages/can spend more time on uncharitable > vigil. > 6 December at 17:11? > Like > - > Ryan Xyrrath Nicholson wait, this > is actually a thing? > 6 December at 18:06? > Like? > 1 > - > Rowan Ashwin Yes Ryan, this > is indeed a thing. > 6 December at 18:12? > Like > - > Ryan Xyrrath Nicholson disgusting > 6 December at 18:12? > Like > - > Rowan Ashwin (Oh yeah I > should probably mention that the date we are planning on booking for is the > 6/9/2014 > 6 December at 18:12? > Like > - > Jonathan Van Buren So > we are investing 2.4k for a $600 profit? > 6 December at 21:00? > Like > - > Jonathan Van Buren What > date do we expect returns? > 6 December at 21:01? > Like > - > Jonathan Van Buren How > many people need to attend to ensure we cover the costs? > 6 December at 21:02? > Like > - > Rowan Ashwin a) Yes, though > not only is it the best thing we could be doing with our money, but its > also providing a service to members. > b) we plan to start closed ticket sales in the last week of semester > one, so returns should start then (and continue over the winter break) > Ticket sales then open up to general public come the start of semester 2. > c) We are budgeting for 180 people, though we have room for 200 (or > maybe even more) to attend should demand be larger then we expect. We have > discussed ALOT of plans with regards to hitting this target of 180. > (minimum number of attendees to cover costs will vary, as costs are not > entirely set in stone, but so long as we get above 165 I believe we will > break even.) > Yesterday at 02:22? > Like > - > Lyndon 'Frames' White 165 > attendee's is pretty unlikely. > 165 people makes this bigger than wizard camp, UCC camp and Teracon > combined. and more expensive ticket price than any one of them. > We had allot of people have issues paying for Wizard Camp because it > was too expensive. > > We didn't get that attendance at charity vigil, > and charity vigil is cheaper. > One could argue that people will bring partners to this, but people > did to charity vigil as well. > > We are not investing in a 20% share of the profit, we are investing in > a 20% share of the loss. > The Hilton is, as I've said before, are really dumb venue. > It is far too upscale and is priced like it. > If we want to do this at all, we should go for something far lower > key, this first time, and if it works out, then we can do something better > next year. > 17 hours ago? > Edited? > Like > - > Lyndon 'Frames' White As a > comparison, if we were to rent the Perth Town Hall, > it would be about $1320.75, for 6 hours for 100 People > that is including security guard, table's being set up and put away, > but not including food or booze. > Throw an extra $2000 for booze (that is 20 cartons of beer/cider and > 30 bottles of wine) > Throw an extra $1500 for light catering (hot fingerfood, i priced from > Miss Maud's, tghis would be a ton). > Throw $600 for a DJ/sound gear hire. > > Rounding up that is $5500. (Vs $21,000 at Hilton) > This would be a less high key even than something at the hilton, but > it would still be pretty fancy. > It is the Perth Town Hall, for goodness sake. > > So selling tickets for $85 each to get a $3000 profit. > > I'm not saying the town hall is the best place, but there are cheaper, > places that the bleeding Hilton. This price is just what i could look up on > short notice, without getting quotes. > 17 hours ago? > Edited? > Like? > 1 > - > Benjamin Armstrong It > doesn't help that it's directly competing with Wizard Camp/Terracon/UCC > camp for the 'expensive Cameron hall event' slot. People aren't going to be > willing to fork out large amounts of money to attend multiple of these > events within a relatively short time frame, particularly the freshers. > > As a result, I don't believe that we will reasonably be able to sell > more tickets than Terracon can, and at a higher price too. Sure, it has > some novelty in being the unique 'Cameron Ball', but I'd wager that this > would turn more people away than attract them. > > In addition, even if we do manage to break even, I would expect to see > people much less willing to attend the other expensive events as they've > already spent so much. If it came down to people deciding only to attend > one camp and the ball, I would not expect a strong showing at Wizard Camp. > > tl;dr - I still think the ball is a bad idea and I feel that it > directly competes with future Unigames events. > 11 hours ago? > Edited? > Like? > 1 > - > Rowan Ashwin Eugh, I suppose > its my job to reply to these complaints. The way I see it there are 3 big > complaints: a) doubt that we will reach the numbers required, b) > competition with other events and c) less expensive alternatives would be > preferable. > > a) This is the most legit complaint imo and it ultimately gets broken > down into two parts. One is that we don't get enough people full stop, > which I believe won't happen. There is already serious expressed interest > in 1-2 tables for curtins Sci-Fi club (who might be considering running > their own) It would be easy as pie for me to sell 1-2 tables worth of > tickets to guild hacks. IMO science union would probs grab a table, if > tickets go on general sale I think there would be at least a few more > tables sold to people who REALLY want balls but are missing out on them > (which is actually quite a large group outside of cameron hall). Then keep > in mind that people in Cameron Hall will be bringing +1's and friends > (moreso then an event like Terracon) and we only need to sell > > ... > > [Message clipped] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20131208/7c659db4/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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General Business ---------------- [SAS] : Oculus Rift [*OX] : Suggest that we offer free accounts (Not memberry, and have the accounts lock, During feburary. This being to coincide with LCA. Last time LCA was in Perth we made bulk money sellign them drinks. We could perhap, set it up so people can sign up by sending a public key to wheel at . Being good people is good. [SAS] : Triforce Ball [SAS] : O-Day 2014 [SZM] : Treasurer needs to sort out GNUCash accounts (again?) [SZM] : No one complained, so I want to start buying the storage server. See hwc@ and the wiki Super Special Fun Committee Projects (as minuted 2013-11-24) -------------------------------------------- - [BG3] and [GOZ] to redesign current website - [SAS] will do a bit of everything - [DTK], and [GOZ] to help with policy review - [VAN], [SZM] and [RIH] for fresher guide - [XON], [BG3]. [VAN] for Clubroom improvement - [GOZ] for Camp - [SZM], [MRD] for posters - [SZM] for tech talks - [NEO] for ball [SZM] On 04/12/13 17:09, Erin Steicke wrote: > Hi all, > > as was pointed out, committee meeting is actually in December, on > December the 14th, Saturday, at 2pm. > > Thanks, > wonda -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Lots of love, - Keir From p at delfante.it Sat Dec 14 13:03:05 2013 From: p at delfante.it (Paul Del) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 13:03:05 +0800 Subject: [committee] LCA2014 free LUG tickets Message-ID: Hey AU & NZ LUG's LCA2014 is happy to give 2x free Hobbyist tickets to attend LCA2014. This includes 2x Penguin Dinner tickets and 1x T Shirt. We are trying our best to support our community and helping more people attend LCA. I will let the committee's decide who gets the tickets. Please shoot me an email and I will generate the voucher codes for you If we have forgotten any LUG's please let us know Thanks Paul Del Fante LCA2014 Core Team ACT - CLUG 2x NSW - SLUG 2x NSW - Newcastle 2x NT - LUG 2x QLD - HUMBUG 2x QLD - QLUG 2x SA - LinuxSA 2x SA - SFLUG 2x SA- Linux Supporters Group 2x SA - LSCLUG 2x TAS - TasLUG 2x VIC - LUG 2x VIC - BLUG 2x VIC - BorderLUG 2x VIC - MelbPC 2x VIC - MLUG 2x VIC - MNUG WA - UCC 2x WA - PLUG 2x WA - SAGE-AU 2x NZ - PLUG NZ - WELLYLUG -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20131214/30a44b9d/attachment.htm From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Dec 14 16:32:40 2013 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 16:32:40 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Temporary Accounts at UCC for LCA Attendees Message-ID: Hi, The UCC would like to offer free accounts to attendees of LCA 2014 for the duration of the conference. Are the organisers of the conference OK with this? The services provided are the same as offered to our members, but the accounts would be deleted after the conference finishes. The main things of interest: - shell accounts on our user servers and logins on the clubroom desktops - web hosting and file storage - access to the club's coke and snack machines UCC isn't able to offer any kind of SLA on services (especially during the summer heat). We don't intend to make more work for the LCA team; we can sort out all the technical details ourselves. We can just check badges, or a registration list. If there are any problems, or anything else we can do, please let us know. Kind Regards, Sam Moore UCC Vice President 2013 From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Dec 14 17:15:54 2013 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 17:15:54 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] LCA2014 free LUG tickets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Paul, Thanks! Let me (or committee-only at ucc.asn.au) know the voucher codes and we will randomly pick two people that are interested. Sam Moore UCC Vice President 2013 On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Paul Del wrote: > Hey AU & NZ LUG's > LCA2014 is happy to give 2x free Hobbyist tickets to attend LCA2014.?This includes 2x Penguin Dinner tickets?and 1x T Shirt. > > We are trying our best to support our community and helping more people attend LCA. > > I will let the committee's decide who gets the tickets. > Please shoot me an email and I will generate the voucher codes for you > > If we have?forgotten?any LUG's please let us know > > Thanks Paul Del Fante > LCA2014 Core Team > > ACT - CLUG > 2x > > NSW - SLUG > 2x > > NSW - Newcastle > 2x > > NT - LUG > 2x > > QLD - HUMBUG > 2x > > QLD - QLUG > 2x > > SA - LinuxSA > 2x > > SA - SFLUG > 2x > > SA- Linux Supporters Group > 2x > > SA - LSCLUG > 2x > > TAS - TasLUG > 2x > > VIC - LUG > 2x > > VIC - BLUG > 2x > > VIC - BorderLUG > 2x > > VIC - MelbPC > 2x > > VIC - MLUG > 2x > > VIC - MNUG > > WA - UCC > 2x > > WA - PLUG > 2x > > WA - SAGE-AU > 2x > > NZ - PLUG > > NZ - WELLYLUG > > > From gozzarda at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Dec 14 18:37:32 2013 From: gozzarda at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Gozzard) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 18:37:32 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Possible coke/door revision Message-ID: Hi all, Committee is (tentatively) considering merging coke and door as part of our upcoming policy review. Of course the most critical part of this process is finding an awesome, new, computer-related name for this group. Suggestions that have been made so far include: - daemon (always active when clubroom is active, provides a service) - clubroomd - watchdog - watchman - COP (clubroom operating properly) Suggestions and comments are welcome. Regards, [GOZ] From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Dec 14 20:01:06 2013 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 20:01:06 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Possible coke/door revision In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If we want to do this, we should keep "door" as the name and make coke a part of door. The name as it is makes sense and requires a minimal number of syllables. Otherwise, I think this is an OK idea, but on the other hand I don't think whatever problems it may solve are really an issue. [SZM] On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > Hi all, > > Committee is (tentatively) considering merging coke and door as part of our > upcoming policy review. Of course the most critical part of this process is > finding an awesome, new, computer-related name for this group. Suggestions > that have been made so far include: > > - daemon (always active when clubroom is active, provides a service) > - clubroomd > - watchdog > - watchman > - COP (clubroom operating properly) > > Suggestions and comments are welcome. > > Regards, > [GOZ] > From oxinabox at ucc.asn.au Sat Dec 14 21:43:57 2013 From: oxinabox at ucc.asn.au (Frames) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 21:43:57 +0800 Subject: [committee] Possible coke/door revision In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <52AC609D.5050401@ucc.asn.au> I agree if we were to merge the groups, then the combined group should be door. I actually think keeping them seperate is a good idea. They have seperate responsibilities, A good coke member goes on Coke runs regularly, and does daily handling of money. a good door member attends cleanups regularly, and does daily handling of people. Giving our responsible members the option to choose which responsibilities they have is good. Avoid burn out etc. I myself have long resisted pressure to join Coke, because after doing all the fridge runs for unigames, when I was it's tressurer, I flat refuse to do Coke runs. Should we merge Winadmin/Sprocket and Webmasters? [*OX] Sam Moore wrote: > If we want to do this, we should keep "door" as the name and make coke > a part of door. The name as it is makes sense and requires a minimal > number of syllables. > > Otherwise, I think this is an OK idea, but on the other hand I don't > think whatever problems it may solve are really an issue. > > [SZM] > > On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Committee is (tentatively) considering merging coke and door as part >> of our upcoming policy review. Of course the most critical part of >> this process is finding an awesome, new, computer-related name for >> this group. Suggestions that have been made so far include: >> >> - daemon (always active when clubroom is active, provides a service) >> - clubroomd >> - watchdog >> - watchman >> - COP (clubroom operating properly) >> >> Suggestions and comments are welcome. >> >> Regards, >> [GOZ] >> From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 15 19:32:30 2013 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Adamson) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 19:32:30 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Possible coke/door revision In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: To what end? Andrew Adamson bob at ucc.asn.au |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | | ---Peter's Laws | On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > Hi all, > > Committee is (tentatively) considering merging coke and door as part of our > upcoming policy review. Of course the most critical part of this process is > finding an awesome, new, computer-related name for this group. Suggestions > that have been made so far include: > > - daemon (always active when clubroom is active, provides a service) > - clubroomd > - watchdog > - watchman > - COP (clubroom operating properly) > > Suggestions and comments are welcome. > > Regards, > [GOZ] > From gozzarda at ucc.asn.au Mon Dec 16 09:22:12 2013 From: gozzarda at ucc.asn.au (Andrew Gozzard) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 09:22:12 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Possible coke/door revision In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The groups are practically merged already, we only have 2 members of door who aren't on coke, and 5 on coke who aren't on door (some wheel members are not listed as being on door, I am not counting them). The only downside I can see is to those members who want to be on coke but are unwilling to attend cleanups (the vast majority of coke, including myself, don't do coke runs with any regularity). It need not be implemented as a strict merger, but can rather be an expectation for which committee can make exceptions if need be. The main advantages of this are the guarantee that there will always be a coke member in the room, and having a more natural way of purging people from coke (not attending cleanups). [GOZ] > To what end? > > Andrew Adamson > bob at ucc.asn.au > > |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | > | ---Peter's Laws | > > On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Committee is (tentatively) considering merging coke and door as part of our >> upcoming policy review. Of course the most critical part of this process is >> finding an awesome, new, computer-related name for this group. Suggestions >> that have been made so far include: >> >> - daemon (always active when clubroom is active, provides a service) >> - clubroomd >> - watchdog >> - watchman >> - COP (clubroom operating properly) >> >> Suggestions and comments are welcome. >> >> Regards, >> [GOZ] >> > From p at delfante.it Mon Dec 16 15:38:24 2013 From: p at delfante.it (Paul Del) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 15:38:24 +0800 Subject: [committee] [Team] Temporary Accounts at UCC for LCA Attendees In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Sam Thanks for that. Sounds good. I don't see why not. It's a pretty busy week for most delegates and they usually head to places where they can get beer. I'm sure your aware Nick Bannon is part of our core team as well. We don't need an SLA on services or access ;-) We would love to have more students to attend our conference and join in. So if you need any tickets let me know If you know of any other computer or student clubs let them know to contact us also Thanking you On Sat, Dec 14, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Sam Moore wrote: > Hi, > > The UCC would like to offer free accounts to attendees of LCA 2014 for the > duration of the conference. Are the organisers of the conference OK with > this? > > The services provided are the same as offered to our members, but the > accounts would be deleted after the conference finishes. > > The main things of interest: > - shell accounts on our user servers and logins on the clubroom desktops > - web hosting and file storage > - access to the club's coke and snack machines > > UCC isn't able to offer any kind of SLA on services (especially during the > summer heat). > > We don't intend to make more work for the LCA team; we can sort out all > the technical details ourselves. > > We can just check badges, or a registration list. > > If there are any problems, or anything else we can do, please let us know. > > Kind Regards, > Sam Moore > UCC Vice President 2013 > > _______________________________________________ > Team mailing list > Team at lists.lca2014.linux.org.au > http://lists.lca2014.linux.org.au/mailman/listinfo/team_ > lists.lca2014.linux.org.au > -- *Deltek IT Support & Help Desk requests* *http://help.deltek.net.au* Simplifying Information Technology Systems. Making Technology easier using cutting edge Systems Computer Help Desk IT Support Phone only: (08)636-55618 Websites CMS Cloud Inquiries Phone: (08)636-55619 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20131216/ab0a7a82/attachment.htm From p at delfante.it Sun Dec 15 09:07:39 2013 From: p at delfante.it (Paul Del) Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2013 09:07:39 +0800 Subject: [committee] LCA2014 free LUG tickets In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey Sam Not a problem at all. Happy to support students and UCC. I'll generate the codes for you guys next week. We can probably offer the UCC $99 or free tickets especially if you guys want to volunteer some time at LCA Cheers Paul On Dec 14, 2013 5:16 PM, "Sam Moore" wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Thanks! Let me (or committee-only at ucc.asn.au) know the voucher codes and > we will randomly pick two people that are interested. > > Sam Moore > UCC Vice President 2013 > > On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Paul Del wrote: > > Hey AU & NZ LUG's >> LCA2014 is happy to give 2x free Hobbyist tickets to attend LCA2014. This >> includes 2x Penguin Dinner tickets and 1x T Shirt. >> >> We are trying our best to support our community and helping more people >> attend LCA. >> >> I will let the committee's decide who gets the tickets. >> Please shoot me an email and I will generate the voucher codes for you >> >> If we have forgotten any LUG's please let us know >> >> Thanks Paul Del Fante >> LCA2014 Core Team >> >> ACT - CLUG >> 2x >> >> NSW - SLUG >> 2x >> >> NSW - Newcastle >> 2x >> >> NT - LUG >> 2x >> >> QLD - HUMBUG >> 2x >> >> QLD - QLUG >> 2x >> >> SA - LinuxSA >> 2x >> >> SA - SFLUG >> 2x >> >> SA- Linux Supporters Group >> 2x >> >> SA - LSCLUG >> 2x >> >> TAS - TasLUG >> 2x >> >> VIC - LUG >> 2x >> >> VIC - BLUG >> 2x >> >> VIC - BorderLUG >> 2x >> >> VIC - MelbPC >> 2x >> >> VIC - MLUG >> 2x >> >> VIC - MNUG >> >> WA - UCC >> 2x >> >> WA - PLUG >> 2x >> >> WA - SAGE-AU >> 2x >> >> NZ - PLUG >> >> NZ - WELLYLUG >> >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Apologies for the disorganization, Sam On 19/12/13 13:52, David Manchester wrote: > HI Sam, > Apologies for the late notice; we're moving office real soon now. > Any chance that a UCC posse might be able to come collect the bits > tomorrow? > > If not, let me know ASAP and I'll try to get in here on Saturday and > stash it at home. > I'm heading to Victoria for Xmas, but I'll be back on the 29th. > > Cheers, > David. > 0417 916 111 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This horribly out of date page lists some things we might still provide: http://www.ucc.asn.au/services The main things of interest: - shell accounts on our user servers and logins on the clubroom desktops - web hosting and file storage - access to the club's coke and snack machines (you still have to pay if you actually want to buy drinks and snacks). UCC isn't able to offer any kind of SLA on services (especially during the summer heat). If we get swamped with requests, or I break something, or someone else breaks something, or the committee changes its mind, this might not happen. You can express interest here: http://matches.ucc.asn.au/cgi-bin/account_register.html Kind Regards, Sam Moore UCC Vice President 2013 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20131227/68ea1bd3/attachment.htm From gozzarda at ucc.asn.au Fri Dec 27 23:09:17 2013 From: gozzarda at ucc.asn.au (Andrew Gozzard) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:09:17 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] ODay Stall and Razer Hydra Message-ID: Hi all, With ODay coming up, [BOB] has offered to donate $250 towards booking a larger stall on ODay. Larger stalls include: - $500: 4.5 by 4.5 metre stall - $520: 3 by 6 metre stall - $555: 5 by 5 metre stall All stalls include shade. Further information avaialable at http://www.guild.uwa.edu.au/welcome/events/oweek/stallbookings?f=48833 In addition to this, it has been suggested that the club should purchase a Razer Hydra to go along with our recently purchased Oculus Rift. Opinions on either matter are welcome. Both matters will be discussed at the next committee meeting. Regards, [GOZ]