From 21968057 at student.uwa.edu.au Fri Sep 2 15:16:50 2016 From: 21968057 at student.uwa.edu.au (Alexander Sosin) Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 15:16:50 +0800 Subject: [committee] University Computer Club Redesign Message-ID: Hi Madeline My name is Alex Sosin, I'm the club's current Fresher representative. After discussion among the UCC committee it has been raised in multiple meeting that the club's image needs improvement. Our website is unfortunately lacking and definitely needs a refreshment, it would be great if guild would be able to graphically design a concept that the members of UCC could implement themselves, it would also be great if we could get a banner design as well. The only part that we would like to keep it the UCC logo itself. The club's committee would like to know how much this would cost and whether a meeting with committee representatives is required. Thanks Alex -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Committee's Fortune ------------------- Nothing so needs reforming as other people's habits. -- Mark Twain From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 7 10:00:01 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:00:01 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 6 Hour Warning Message-ID: <20160907020001.84B0B2003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held Today at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Caution: Keep out of reach of children. From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 7 15:00:01 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 15:00:01 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 60 Minute Warning Message-ID: <20160907070001.9B17D2003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held Today at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Tell the truth or trump--but get the trick. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" From s.matthews at karrak.id.au Thu Sep 8 16:50:46 2016 From: s.matthews at karrak.id.au (Simon Matthews) Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2016 16:50:46 +0800 Subject: [committee] UCC. Dinner Message-ID: Hi, I have only just heard about the 42 anniversary dinner. I was a member and president of the UCC in the late 1970s. I would love to come if it is not too late. Regards Simon Matthews -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Try the Moo Shu Pork. It is especially good today. From lui at fgcint.com Mon Sep 12 13:15:02 2016 From: lui at fgcint.com (Luigi Cantoni) Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 13:15:02 +0800 Subject: [committee] Friday 16th Dinner Message-ID: <1473657302.17994.39.camel@fgcint.com> Hi all, I have just returned from overseas and did not get the initial email (just got forwarded it from another old member). I would like to attend. Is it still possible. If so please send details etc. -- Thanks Luigi Cantoni Mob: 0403 262 243 Wrk: 08 9418 3833 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 14 10:00:01 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 10:00:01 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 6 Hour Warning Message-ID: <20160914020002.035552003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held Today at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Don't worry so loud, your roommate can't think. From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 14 15:00:01 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:00:01 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 60 Minute Warning Message-ID: <20160914070002.050F02003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held Today at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Q: What's the difference between Bell Labs and the Boy Scouts of America? A: The Boy Scouts have adult supervision. From oscarhermoso852 at gmail.com Tue Sep 13 17:07:59 2016 From: oscarhermoso852 at gmail.com (Oscar Hermoso) Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 17:07:59 +0800 Subject: [committee] Cameron Hall and UCC Cleanup Message-ID: Hi UCCers, This upcoming Saturday morning, the 17th, there will be a cleanup in Cameron Hall, and attendance is required of all current door members. It'll begin at 10:30AM; and pizza will be ordered afterwards for those that help clean up. If you have a legitimate reason for not being able to attend, you should email apologies to door at ucc.asn.au PS: If you're considering applying for door group, attending clean up makes you look really, really good. Thanks in advance; [CHS] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Committee's Fortune ------------------- Kindness is a language which the deaf can hear and the blind can read. -- Mark Twain From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Sep 20 16:00:01 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 16:00:01 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 24 Hour Warning Message-ID: <20160920080001.C847C2003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held on Wednesday, 21 September 2016 at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- You are scrupulously honest, frank, and straightforward. Therefore you have few friends. From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 21 10:00:00 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 10:00:00 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 6 Hour Warning Message-ID: <20160921020000.4E62C2003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held Today at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Q: How do you save a drowning lawyer? A: Throw him a rock. From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 21 15:00:01 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 15:00:01 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 60 Minute Warning Message-ID: <20160921070001.DB7532003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held Today at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Q: Why did the chicken cross the road? A: To see his friend Gregory peck. Q: Why did the chicken cross the playground? A: To get to the other slide. From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Sep 23 08:20:40 2016 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Adamson) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 08:20:40 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Regarding UCC Clean-up on 2016-09-17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Oscar, I am only around the clubroom once a week these days, I'm not a student and I work full time. Weekends are precious to me. I will come to two cleanups a year if I am left on door, otherwise I will come to none. Regardless of the above, I am astounded the committee is kicking people off door after only giving three days notice for the cleanup. Andrew Adamson bob at ucc.asn.au |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | | ---Peter's Laws | On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, Oscar Hermoso wrote: > Dear door@, > > Last weeks clean-up went well, but was poorly attended by door members, and furthermore, few apologies were > received. The following door members failed to attend, and probably didn't send apologies. (There were some > issues with the door@ mail forward, now fixed). > > - [bob] > - [bobgeorge33] > - [captaincrunch] > - [gozzarda] > - [mallow] > - [rvvs89] > - [swordsman] > - [unmercifulfish] > > If you would like to remain on door group, please send an explanation through to committee-only at ucc.asn.au. > > Some other door members also failed to attend and/or give apologies, but have either explained their > circumstances in person or are being given exception for other reasons (eg. [NTU] doing twice as much work as > anyone else last clean-up). > > Regards, > > [CHS] > > From jack96 at iinet.net.au Fri Sep 16 18:23:20 2016 From: jack96 at iinet.net.au (jack96 at iinet.net.au) Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2016 18:23:20 +0800 Subject: [committee] LOLCATDOG - Jack Howett Message-ID: <010f55c3b3d0bf9b224c4dbad85acbea730ffa87@webmail.iinet.net.au> 1.?There's a lot of reason's I'd like to be on door. UCC (along with Unisfa and Unigames) has been great to me, it's given me a place to hang out, and before I moved out, a way to escape my fucked up, unhealthy home. UCC has helped me out a lot, and I'd like to be able to help out a bit with the running of the club. It'd would obviously be nice to be able to hold the room for myself and whoever else is around, when that comes up. 2. I'm not going to say that I would make an enormous difference and revolutionise UCC, but having me on door, I'd be another pair of hands around to help whenever needed, keep the room open, keep it tidy, and generally make sure things don't go to shit. 3. On the UCC website, at ucc.asn.au, under information>UCC policies and procedures>UCC Door Group Policy 4. To take care of and manage the clubroom, both alongside and in absence of the UCC committee, as the isn't large enough to consistently keep the room open and? 5. Any committee member. 6. Through their UCC email address. 7. 55 8. The non-emergency number is 6488 3020, and the emergency number is 6488 2222 9. When the code to open the door is entered, the vending machine sends a "dispense door" command to the dispense server, which in turn sends a signal to the switch connected to the door's latch. 10. A door member could connect to motsugo, and use the "dispense door" command, or get the attention of one of the committee members 11. In theory, Oscar Hermoso, Alfred Burgess, Elton Rodriguez, Cain Nixey, Chris Forbes, 12. Making sure the room is acceptably tidy, no litter etc, nobody is still in the clubroom, along with their belongings. The soldering iron, lights, and fan must be off, windows must be closed, the tool cabinet and machine room must be locked, and the clubroom door must be locked. 13. If cameron hall is empty, the door to the stairs and the fire escape must be locked. 14. You should inform the committee. 15. $0.49 16. $4.10 17. It is kept in /home/other/coke/ as cokelog 18. The first dispensed drink was a solo. 19. Oscar Hermoso is able to open the vending machines. 20. I would use the command "dispense slot coke:5 97 vanilla coke" 21. I would use the command "dispense slot (snack:53) Price dead" 22. The user's name has a capital in it. 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URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160917/30f6676a/attachment-0001.htm From lordandre at ucc.asn.au Sat Sep 17 12:36:32 2016 From: lordandre at ucc.asn.au (lordandre) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 12:36:32 +0800 Subject: [committee] LATE CLEANUP APOLOGIES VERY SORRY Message-ID: Dear Committee, After a busy morning of work, I suddenly realised that I had not sent in my apologies for the clean up today. The reason for my attendance is of course that I have work and need to eat so I don't starve. I realise that this is very late, please excuse my incompetence as I am only human and may have been thoroughly distracted by the glory of Anniversary dinner last night. If this does lead to my removal from door, that would be fair and I shall take immediate action to attempt to regain door privileges, as I believe I am needed on door for running of important club room events. Sincere Apologies, Andr? Strydom [LDA] Forgetful door member From ryan_hall1234 at hotmail.com Sat Sep 17 13:56:10 2016 From: ryan_hall1234 at hotmail.com (ryan hall) Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2016 05:56:10 +0000 Subject: [committee] Apologies In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Hey Uccans, My bad, I totally forgot about the Cleanup on today, since I've been home sick the last few days and (for once) actually spent the entirety of it in bed. I'll be heading up soon, but it may be a tad too late given my travel times Apologies, Ryan [HTL] Hall -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[NTU] doing twice as much work as anyone else last clean-up). Regards, [CHS] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160920/188ec7c8/attachment-0001.htm From 21951621 at student.uwa.edu.au Tue Sep 20 15:39:46 2016 From: 21951621 at student.uwa.edu.au (Shezad Latif) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 15:39:46 +0800 Subject: [committee] Shez - Door member application Message-ID: Open Questions Why do you want to be on Door? I'd like to increase my involvement in the club, and better orientate myself with its workings. What difference will putting you on Door make? I will bring a pretty face to Door :3. I'm also quite a friendly guy, and I try to keep a positive vibe in the clubroom. Plus having more people you know you can trust in the clubroom is always good. Policy Questions Where would you find the Door Group policy? https://www.ucc.asn.au/infobase/policies/door.ucc Why do we have door members? To have trustworthy and responsible people that can manage and maintain the clubroom. Who should you contact with questions/concerns about the policy? The UCC committee How does committee officially contact Door members? Through email Practical Questions What is the vending machine code to unlock the door? 55 If someone is violent, refuses to leave, or otherwise poses a danger to people or property, you should call UWA Security. What is their number? Give both the emergency and non-emergency numbers. Emergency: (+61 8) 6488 2222 Non-Emergency: (+61 8) 6488 3020 Briefly describe how the door system works (describe how the above code actually unlocks the door). The code is linked to one of the vending machine slots that informs merlo to open the door If you are unable to unlock the door from the snack machine, how else should you open the door? Give both methods. Through dispense Keys With a crowbar Who has clubroom keys on their person and who is able to get the clubroom key out from the Guild Student Centre? All committee members should have keys on them, and can get them from the Guild if needed. What needs to be done when closing the clubroom? - Any litter in the clubroom should be removed and binned - All members and their property should be removed from the clubroom - The lights and fan should be off - The soldering iron should be off - When closing the clubroom, the following things must be secured: - The tool cupboard must be locked - The machine room must be locked - The windows must be closed - The clubroom door must be shut and locked What needs to be done when leaving Cameron Hall? The main door, the door at the top of the stairs, and the fire escape should be closed and locked If you are unable to correct an issue with something in the clubroom, who should you inform? A committee member, a wheel member or security depending on the issue. Dispense Questions What is your current dispense account balance? $4.99 What is the current balance of the account zanchey? $4.10 Where is the dispense log kept? /home/other/coke/cokelog What was the first drink dispensed this year? 'solo' Name someone who is able to open the vending machines. Oscar Hermosa How would you rename slot 5 of the coke machine to vanilla coke? dispense 5 [price] 'vanilla coke' How would you disable slot 33 of the snack machine? Rename it to 'dead' What is wrong with this command: dispense acct Zanchey +500 "money in safe bag 54"? 'Zanchey' is capitalised -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160920/9abc0a29/attachment-0001.htm From 20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au Fri Sep 23 08:36:16 2016 From: 20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au (Grace Rosario) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 08:36:16 +0800 Subject: [committee] Regarding UCC Clean-up on 2016-09-17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello everyone, I didn't receive either of the emails below. I think maybe we hadn't solved all of those problems with door@ that you say we have fixed. I emailed door@ last week before the clean-up that I was sick and unable to attend. I also told our President that I was sick. If I was unable to attend a dinner due to illness, should you doubt that I would be unable to attend a clean-up the next morning? Cheers Grace On 23 September 2016 at 08:20, Andrew Adamson wrote: > Hi Oscar, > > I am only around the clubroom once a week these days, I'm not a student > and I work full time. Weekends are precious to me. I will come to two > cleanups a year if I am left on door, otherwise I will come to none. > > Regardless of the above, I am astounded the committee is kicking people > off door after only giving three days notice for the cleanup. > > Andrew Adamson > bob at ucc.asn.au > > |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | > | ---Peter's Laws | > > On Tue, 20 Sep 2016, Oscar Hermoso wrote: > > > Dear door@, > > > > Last weeks clean-up went well, but was poorly attended by door members, > and furthermore, few apologies were > > received. The following door members failed to attend, and probably > didn't send apologies. (There were some > > issues with the door@ mail forward, now fixed). > > > > - [bob] > > - [bobgeorge33] > > - [captaincrunch] > > - [gozzarda] > > - [mallow] > > - [rvvs89] > > - [swordsman] > > - [unmercifulfish] > > > > If you would like to remain on door group, please send an explanation > through to committee-only at ucc.asn.au. > > > > Some other door members also failed to attend and/or give apologies, but > have either explained their > > circumstances in person or are being given exception for other reasons > (eg. [NTU] doing twice as much work as > > anyone else last clean-up). > > > > Regards, > > > > [CHS] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160923/4a404696/attachment-0001.htm From tpg at ucc.asn.au Fri Sep 23 10:46:36 2016 From: tpg at ucc.asn.au (John Hodge) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 10:46:36 +0800 Subject: [committee] Regarding UCC Clean-up on 2016-09-17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4c3798ce-d72e-84fb-77ca-6de799c55cc4@ucc.asn.au> I agree with the sentiments expressed by the previous emails - There was insufficient warning for this cleanup (due to both the door@ list being broken, and the ucc@ email not being moderated through until the 15th) I suggest that the door purge not be done this time around, and next time the committee ensure that adequate notice is given. On 20/09/16 15:08, Oscar Hermoso wrote: > Dear door@, > > Last weeks clean-up went well, but was poorly attended by door > members, and furthermore, few apologies were received. The following > door members failed to attend, and probably didn't send apologies. > (There were some issues with the door@ mail forward, now fixed). > > - [bob] > - [bobgeorge33] > - [captaincrunch] > - [gozzarda] > - [mallow] > - [rvvs89] > - [swordsman] > - [unmercifulfish] > > If you would like to remain on door group, please send an explanation > through to committee-only at ucc.asn.au . > > Some other door members also failed to attend and/or give apologies, > but have either explained their circumstances in person or are being > given exception for other reasons (eg. [NTU] doing twice as much work > as anyone else last clean-up). > > Regards, > > [CHS] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The following door members failed > to attend, and probably didn't send apologies. (There were some issues with > the door@ mail forward, now fixed). [...] FWIW, I suspect most of the following door/doorgroup at ucc mail attempts were apologies. Nick. mooneye:/var/log/mail# zgrep -E '6592966001|9B60566001|9BCCC66002|AE2B466002|33F7566002|F17F366002|A780466002|90C9B66002|7378D66002|DD10366002|A26A466001|BC38C66002|A396E66002' mail.log.1.gz |grep ": from=" Sep 13 17:07:37 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: 6592966001: from=, size=6211, nrcpt=3 (queue active) Sep 13 17:12:57 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: 9B60566001: from=, size=1864, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 14 21:33:13 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: 9BCCC66002: from=, size=7322, nrcpt=2 (queue active) Sep 15 07:01:22 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: AE2B466002: from=, size=15298, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 15 20:17:32 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: 33F7566002: from=<20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au>, size=4505, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 15 21:11:47 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: F17F366002: from=, size=10832, nrcpt=2 (queue active) Sep 15 21:22:56 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: A780466002: from=, size=3280, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 15 22:38:28 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: 90C9B66002: from=, size=1768, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 16 18:23:16 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: 7378D66002: from=, size=9296, nrcpt=2 (queue active) Sep 16 23:55:58 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: DD10366002: from=, size=4771, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 17 08:57:30 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: A26A466001: from=<21317045 at student.uwa.edu.au>, size=6663, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 17 13:36:58 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: BC38C66002: from=, size=7583, nrcpt=1 (queue active) Sep 18 01:39:26 mooneye postfix/qmgr[2129]: A396E66002: from=<36X_dVxQKByQDRIVE-SHARES-NOREPLYGOOGLE.COMUCCDOORUCC.ASN.AU at doclist.bounces.google.com>, size=16128, nrcpt=1 (queue active) With some overlap with the following: > - [bob] > - [bobgeorge33] > - [captaincrunch] > - [gozzarda] > - [mallow] > - [rvvs89] > - [swordsman] > - [unmercifulfish] Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick-sig at rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Sep 24 11:52:01 2016 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Adamson) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 11:52:01 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Projector bulbs Message-ID: Hi All, I've seen some talk in committee minutes lately about replacing the projector lamp/bulb. I must protest! Everyone I've ever spoken to who runs a lot of projectors has told me it's not worth replacing lamps. If we buy a genuine lamp, it will only come with a 3 month warranty, and we can probably get a better new or second hand projector for the price. If we buy a non-genuine lamp, there's a pretty good chance we won't get much life out of it. Either way, we are at the mercy of all the other aging parts in the old projector - which does happen due to the heat given off by the lamp. Not to mention dust buildup and fans aging out. I vote we use the existing projector with the old bulb until it doesn't work anymore, at which time we can either look around for a new one or another donated one. I would also point out that, in my time with the club, UCC has never had to spend a cent on projectors. Andrew Adamson bob at ucc.asn.au |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | | ---Peter's Laws | From matt at ucc.asn.au Sat Sep 24 12:58:26 2016 From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:58:26 +0800 Subject: [committee] Projector bulbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Surely LEDs must be getting bright enough now for projectors, and they're a nice specular point source? Matt On 24 September 2016 11:52:01 am AWST, Andrew Adamson wrote: >Hi All, > >I've seen some talk in committee minutes lately about replacing the >projector lamp/bulb. I must protest! Everyone I've ever spoken to who >runs >a lot of projectors has told me it's not worth replacing lamps. > >If we buy a genuine lamp, it will only come with a 3 month warranty, >and >we can probably get a better new or second hand projector for the >price. >If we buy a non-genuine lamp, there's a pretty good chance we won't get > >much life out of it. Either way, we are at the mercy of all the other >aging parts in the old projector - which does happen due to the heat >given >off by the lamp. Not to mention dust buildup and fans aging out. > >I vote we use the existing projector with the old bulb until it doesn't > >work anymore, at which time we can either look around for a new one or >another donated one. I would also point out that, in my time with the >club, UCC has never had to spend a cent on projectors. > >Andrew Adamson >bob at ucc.asn.au > >|"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." > | >| ---Peter's Laws > | >_______________________________________________ >List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee From james at cox.cx Sat Sep 24 12:43:35 2016 From: james at cox.cx (James Cox) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:43:35 +0800 Subject: [committee] Projector bulbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Bob raises some good points. I don?t necessarily disagree, but I will say that the main projector is a decent piece of kit, isn?t it? 1080p DLP, etc. etc. I doubt we can get another for free that easily. Mine for example is only 1024x768 native. [RME]~Coxy On 24 September 2016 at 11:52, Andrew Adamson wrote: > Hi All, > > I've seen some talk in committee minutes lately about replacing the > projector lamp/bulb. I must protest! Everyone I've ever spoken to who runs > a lot of projectors has told me it's not worth replacing lamps. > > If we buy a genuine lamp, it will only come with a 3 month warranty, and > we can probably get a better new or second hand projector for the price. > If we buy a non-genuine lamp, there's a pretty good chance we won't get > much life out of it. Either way, we are at the mercy of all the other > aging parts in the old projector - which does happen due to the heat given > off by the lamp. Not to mention dust buildup and fans aging out. > > I vote we use the existing projector with the old bulb until it doesn't > work anymore, at which time we can either look around for a new one or > another donated one. I would also point out that, in my time with the > club, UCC has never had to spend a cent on projectors. > > Andrew Adamson > bob at ucc.asn.au > > |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | > | ---Peter's Laws | > _______________________________________________ > List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160924/4d883c3d/attachment.htm From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Sep 24 16:00:00 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:00:00 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 4 Day Warning Message-ID: <20160924080000.2454E2003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held on Wednesday, 28 September 2016 at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- You can do very well in speculation where land or anything to do with dirt is concerned. From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Sep 24 22:32:51 2016 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:32:51 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] [tech] Projector bulbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 24 Sep 2016, James Cox wrote: > Bob raises some good points. > I don?t necessarily disagree, but I will say that the main projector is a decent piece of kit, isn?t it? 1080p DLP, etc. etc. I > doubt we can get another for free that easily. Mine for example is only 1024x768 native. What model is the projector? -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From mjpomery at ucc.asn.au Sat Sep 24 23:51:54 2016 From: mjpomery at ucc.asn.au (Mitchell Pomery) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 23:51:54 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] [tech] Projector bulbs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's a mitsubishi something... I've just unplugged the old projector and the bulb in the fancy mitsubishi appears to be working fine. [GOZ] said that he reset the timer on the projector for the bulb so it would stop bugging you. What was the reason for looking at getting a new bulb? Mitch On Sat, 24 Sep 2016, James Andrewartha wrote: > On Sat, 24 Sep 2016, James Cox wrote: > >> Bob raises some good points. >> I don?t necessarily disagree, but I will say that the main projector is a decent piece of kit, isn?t it? 1080p DLP, etc. etc. I >> doubt we can get another for free that easily. Mine for example is only 1024x768 native. > > What model is the projector? > > -- > # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ > # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | > [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | > [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Sep 27 16:00:00 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:00:00 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 24 Hour Warning Message-ID: <20160927080000.39F2D2003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held on Wednesday, 28 September 2016 at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Q: Why was Stonehenge abandoned? A: It wasn't IBM compatible. From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 28 10:00:00 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 10:00:00 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 6 Hour Warning Message-ID: <20160928020000.3B9522003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held Today at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Q: Why does Washington have the most lawyers per capita and New Jersey the most toxic waste dumps? A: God gave New Jersey first choice. From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 28 15:00:02 2016 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 15:00:02 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting - 60 Minute Warning Message-ID: <20160928070002.096D22003D@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> A Committee Meeting will be held Today at 16:00 unless otherwise stated. The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom. Committee's Fortune ------------------- Q: Why does Washington have the most lawyers per capita and New Jersey the most toxic waste dumps? A: God gave New Jersey first choice. From tpg at ucc.asn.au Wed Sep 28 17:33:17 2016 From: tpg at ucc.asn.au (John Hodge) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 17:33:17 +0800 Subject: [committee] Meeting notifications Message-ID: Dear committee, I feel you should be made well aware of the requirements regarding notice of committee meetings (Section 15.2 of the constitution) >> The Secretary shall cause all members of the Committee to receive written or email notice of any meeting of the Committee at least four days before the date of the meeting. This is done in an automated manner by a script that emails the committee list four days in advance (with reminders at 24 hours, 6 hours, and one hour). This email includes the words "The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom.". However, todays meeting was *not* held in the UCC clubroom (or near it), but at a location not sent to the list (the Club Collaborative Zone, in the main guild building). This is contrary to the the club's constitution (as the public committee list was informed of the location and no other communication was made to amend or cancel that notification). The committee was reminded at this year's AGM to ensure that official communication channels were used. Recent behavior seems to show that this reminder has not been heeded. John Hodge [TPG] UCC Wheel Member, sitting in the clubroom. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160928/d7e34974/attachment.htm From blargzap at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 28 19:47:46 2016 From: blargzap at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Cain Nixey) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:47:46 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Meeting notifications Message-ID: Hi John Hodge, Whilst I appreciate the intent of your email, I feel that your exact presentation is hostile in nature. I do not appreciate what I consider to be an accusation of failings as a secretary. Committee meetings have been held in a seperate location due to the lack of conducive environment, mostly due to external volume. In the section of the constitution that you have so kindly provided, there is no mention of requirements for location, nor any mention of informing the general memberbase. The notifications given are merely a curtesy, and if you (or anybody else) wish to attend a committee meeting, please do not hesitate to contact myself or any other member of committee. Regards, Cain Nixey UCC Secretary 2016 Dear committee, I feel you should be made well aware of the requirements regarding notice of committee meetings (Section 15.2 of the constitution) >> The Secretary shall cause all members of the Committee to receive written or email notice of any meeting of the Committee at least four days before the date of the meeting. This is done in an automated manner by a script that emails the committee list four days in advance (with reminders at 24 hours, 6 hours, and one hour). This email includes the words "The meeting will be held in the UCC Clubroom.". However, todays meeting was not held in the UCC clubroom (or near it), but at a location not sent to the list (the Club Collaborative Zone, in the main guild building). This is contrary to the the club's constitution (as the public committee list was informed of the location and no other communication was made to amend or cancel that notification). The committee was reminded at this year's AGM to ensure that official communication channels were used. Recent behavior seems to show that this reminder has not been heeded. John Hodge [TPG] UCC Wheel Member, sitting in the clubroom. From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Sep 28 22:12:19 2016 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Adamson) Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 22:12:19 +0800 (AWST) Subject: [committee] Meeting notifications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Cain, This is the incorrect response to a legitimate point raised by a longterm member and past-president. I'm sure what you meant to say was... "Oh, my bad, sorry. I realise that notices for meetings must logically include the location, otherwise telling people about the meeting at all would be useless. I obviously told the rest of committee where the meeting would be held via non-official channels, otherwise they wouldn't have been able to come the meeting - I promise to do this via official channels next time in the interests of transparency and member involvement. While not in the constitution, it has been the precedent for at least the last 3 years to let people on the committee mailing list know where a meeting will be held, and then actually hold the meeting there, since I realise that many non-committee members care about the club and are interested in the way the club is run. Furthermore, I suggest that all decisions made by committee at this meeting that could have had member input be discarded and re-discussed at the next meeting. Once again, I'm sorry I left you waiting in the clubroom for over an hour." ...but I guess you just typoed. Andrew Adamson bob at ucc.asn.au |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | | ---Peter's Laws | On Wed, 28 Sep 2016, Cain Nixey wrote: > Hi John Hodge, > > Whilst I appreciate the intent of your email, I feel that your exact > presentation is hostile in nature. I do not appreciate what I consider to > be an accusation of failings as a secretary. Committee meetings have been > held in a seperate location due to the lack of conducive environment, > mostly due to external volume. In the section of the constitution that you > have so kindly provided, there is no mention of requirements for location, > nor any mention of informing the general memberbase. The notifications > given are merely a curtesy, and if you (or anybody else) wish to attend a > committee meeting, please do not hesitate to contact myself or any other > member of committee. > > Regards, > Cain Nixey > UCC Secretary 2016 > > Dear committee, > > I feel you should be made well aware of the requirements regarding notice > of committee meetings (Section 15.2 of the constitution) > > >> The Secretary shall cause all members of the Committee to receive > written or email notice of any meeting of the Committee at least four days > before the date of the meeting. > > This is done in an automated manner by a script that emails the committee > list four days in advance (with reminders at 24 hours, 6 hours, and one > hour). This email includes the words "The meeting will be held in the UCC > Clubroom.". However, todays meeting was not held in the UCC clubroom (or > near it), but at a location not sent to the list (the Club Collaborative > Zone, in the main guild building). This is contrary to the the club's > constitution (as the public committee list was informed of the location > and no other communication was made to amend or cancel that notification). > > The committee was reminded at this year's AGM to ensure that official > communication channels were used. Recent behavior seems to show that this > reminder has not been heeded. > > John Hodge [TPG] > UCC Wheel Member, sitting in the clubroom. > _______________________________________________ > List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee > From alex at theducks.org Thu Sep 29 01:48:31 2016 From: alex at theducks.org (Alex Dawson) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 06:48:31 +1300 Subject: [committee] Meeting notifications In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <50D953E0-82CA-4084-809D-15EE4497EDF6@theducks.org> This isn't a parliamentary enquiry under oath - get off your high horse and fix the damn email auto notification to display the correct location :P -- Alex Dawson 604.763.4210 > On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Cain Nixey wrote: > > Hi John Hodge, > > Whilst I appreciate the intent of your email, I feel that your exact > presentation is hostile in nature. I do not appreciate what I consider to > be an accusation of failings as a secretary. Committee meetings have been > held in a seperate location due to the lack of conducive environment, > mostly due to external volume. In the section of the constitution that you > have so kindly provided, there is no mention of requirements for location, > nor any mention of informing the general memberbase. The notifications > given are merely a curtesy, and if you (or anybody else) wish to attend a > committee meeting, please do not hesitate to contact myself or any other > member of committee. > > Regards, > Cain Nixey > UCC Secretary 2016 > > Dear committee, > > I feel you should be made well aware of the requirements regarding notice > of committee meetings (Section 15.2 of the constitution) > >>> The Secretary shall cause all members of the Committee to receive > written or email notice of any meeting of the Committee at least four days > before the date of the meeting. > > This is done in an automated manner by a script that emails the committee > list four days in advance (with reminders at 24 hours, 6 hours, and one > hour). This email includes the words "The meeting will be held in the UCC > Clubroom.". However, todays meeting was not held in the UCC clubroom (or > near it), but at a location not sent to the list (the Club Collaborative > Zone, in the main guild building). This is contrary to the the club's > constitution (as the public committee list was informed of the location > and no other communication was made to amend or cancel that notification). > > The committee was reminded at this year's AGM to ensure that official > communication channels were used. Recent behavior seems to show that this > reminder has not been heeded. > > John Hodge [TPG] > UCC Wheel Member, sitting in the clubroom. > _______________________________________________ > List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160929/916a7ea6/attachment-0001.htm From 21721678 at student.uwa.edu.au Thu Sep 29 03:06:48 2016 From: 21721678 at student.uwa.edu.au (Elton Rodrigues) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 03:06:48 +0800 Subject: [committee] Meeting notifications In-Reply-To: <50D953E0-82CA-4084-809D-15EE4497EDF6@theducks.org> References: <50D953E0-82CA-4084-809D-15EE4497EDF6@theducks.org> Message-ID: Hi everyone, It's clear to see this discussion could have been handled better. I believe it is only reasonable to try and resolve this by starting afresh. I would like to propose this matter be considered dismissed and any issues can be raised again in an appropriate and respectful manner. Elton Rodrigues Social Vice President On 29 September 2016 at 01:48, Alex Dawson wrote: > This isn't a parliamentary enquiry under oath - get off your high horse > and fix the damn email auto notification to display the correct location :P > > -- > Alex Dawson > 604.763.4210 > > On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Cain Nixey > wrote: > > Hi John Hodge, > > Whilst I appreciate the intent of your email, I feel that your exact > presentation is hostile in nature. I do not appreciate what I consider to > be an accusation of failings as a secretary. Committee meetings have been > held in a seperate location due to the lack of conducive environment, > mostly due to external volume. In the section of the constitution that you > have so kindly provided, there is no mention of requirements for location, > nor any mention of informing the general memberbase. The notifications > given are merely a curtesy, and if you (or anybody else) wish to attend a > committee meeting, please do not hesitate to contact myself or any other > member of committee. > > Regards, > Cain Nixey > UCC Secretary 2016 > > Dear committee, > > I feel you should be made well aware of the requirements regarding notice > of committee meetings (Section 15.2 of the constitution) > > The Secretary shall cause all members of the Committee to receive > > written or email notice of any meeting of the Committee at least four days > before the date of the meeting. > > This is done in an automated manner by a script that emails the committee > list four days in advance (with reminders at 24 hours, 6 hours, and one > hour). This email includes the words "The meeting will be held in the UCC > Clubroom.". However, todays meeting was not held in the UCC clubroom (or > near it), but at a location not sent to the list (the Club Collaborative > Zone, in the main guild building). This is contrary to the the club's > constitution (as the public committee list was informed of the location > and no other communication was made to amend or cancel that notification). > > The committee was reminded at this year's AGM to ensure that official > communication channels were used. Recent behavior seems to show that this > reminder has not been heeded. > > John Hodge [TPG] > UCC Wheel Member, sitting in the clubroom. > _______________________________________________ > List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160929/35c05291/attachment.htm From 20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au Thu Sep 29 08:18:57 2016 From: 20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au (Grace Rosario) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 08:18:57 +0800 Subject: [committee] Meeting notifications In-Reply-To: References: <50D953E0-82CA-4084-809D-15EE4497EDF6@theducks.org> Message-ID: Hey Elton, Do you mean dismiss the fact that John raised a valid point in an email where I cannot see offensive material, unless it was the presumption that the secretary may not be doing his job by not using the official channels to communicate? Or dismiss the idea that the committee could have responded to it in a more congenial manner? Sweeping it under the rug won't help. Grace Rosario On 29 September 2016 at 03:06, Elton Rodrigues <21721678 at student.uwa.edu.au> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > It's clear to see this discussion could have been handled better. I > believe it is only reasonable to try and resolve this by starting afresh. I > would like to propose this matter be considered dismissed and any issues > can be raised again in an appropriate and respectful manner. > > Elton Rodrigues > Social Vice President > > > On 29 September 2016 at 01:48, Alex Dawson wrote: > >> This isn't a parliamentary enquiry under oath - get off your high horse >> and fix the damn email auto notification to display the correct location :P >> >> -- >> Alex Dawson >> 604.763.4210 >> >> On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Cain Nixey >> wrote: >> >> Hi John Hodge, >> >> Whilst I appreciate the intent of your email, I feel that your exact >> presentation is hostile in nature. I do not appreciate what I consider to >> be an accusation of failings as a secretary. Committee meetings have been >> held in a seperate location due to the lack of conducive environment, >> mostly due to external volume. In the section of the constitution that >> you >> have so kindly provided, there is no mention of requirements for >> location, >> nor any mention of informing the general memberbase. The notifications >> given are merely a curtesy, and if you (or anybody else) wish to attend a >> committee meeting, please do not hesitate to contact myself or any other >> member of committee. >> >> Regards, >> Cain Nixey >> UCC Secretary 2016 >> >> Dear committee, >> >> I feel you should be made well aware of the requirements regarding notice >> of committee meetings (Section 15.2 of the constitution) >> >> The Secretary shall cause all members of the Committee to receive >> >> written or email notice of any meeting of the Committee at least four >> days >> before the date of the meeting. >> >> This is done in an automated manner by a script that emails the committee >> list four days in advance (with reminders at 24 hours, 6 hours, and one >> hour). This email includes the words "The meeting will be held in the UCC >> Clubroom.". However, todays meeting was not held in the UCC clubroom (or >> near it), but at a location not sent to the list (the Club Collaborative >> Zone, in the main guild building). This is contrary to the the club's >> constitution (as the public committee list was informed of the location >> and no other communication was made to amend or cancel that notification). >> >> The committee was reminded at this year's AGM to ensure that official >> communication channels were used. Recent behavior seems to show that this >> reminder has not been heeded. >> >> John Hodge [TPG] >> UCC Wheel Member, sitting in the clubroom. >> _______________________________________________ >> List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160929/8b76dc75/attachment.htm From oscarhermoso852 at gmail.com Thu Sep 29 11:52:20 2016 From: oscarhermoso852 at gmail.com (Oscar Hermoso) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 11:52:20 +0800 Subject: [committee] Meeting notifications In-Reply-To: References: <50D953E0-82CA-4084-809D-15EE4497EDF6@theducks.org> Message-ID: This whole drama is ridiculous. [TPG], you should have known that the meeting is in the CCZ, meetings have been held there for months. It even says so on Cerberus, at the entrance to the clubroom. Also, [DJF], our treasurer, was in the clubroom and at 4PM he mentioned he was going to be late to the committee meeting, obviously implying that the meeting wouldn't be held in the clubroom. [BLZ], that's a horrible reply - and you know it. Notice of meetings is absolutely useless without a location, that's common sense. Whether the constitution says it or not, the correct location should absolutely be contained within the meeting notices. I've gone and updated the meeting scipts to contain the correct location. Apologies that it wasn't done earlier. UCC already has enough drama as it is, please don't add to it unnecessarily. This situation doesn't need to be brought up at the next committee meeting. Nothing will come of it, it will simply extend the meeting and in get in the way of productive conversation. Regards, [CHS] On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Grace Rosario <20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au> wrote: > Hey Elton, > > Do you mean dismiss the fact that John raised a valid point in an email > where I cannot see offensive material, unless it was the presumption that > the secretary may not be doing his job by not using the official channels > to communicate? > Or dismiss the idea that the committee could have responded to it in a > more congenial manner? > > Sweeping it under the rug won't help. > > Grace Rosario > > On 29 September 2016 at 03:06, Elton Rodrigues < > 21721678 at student.uwa.edu.au> wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> It's clear to see this discussion could have been handled better. I >> believe it is only reasonable to try and resolve this by starting afresh. I >> would like to propose this matter be considered dismissed and any issues >> can be raised again in an appropriate and respectful manner. >> >> Elton Rodrigues >> Social Vice President >> >> >> On 29 September 2016 at 01:48, Alex Dawson wrote: >> >>> This isn't a parliamentary enquiry under oath - get off your high horse >>> and fix the damn email auto notification to display the correct location :P >>> >>> -- >>> Alex Dawson >>> 604.763.4210 >>> >>> On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Cain Nixey >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi John Hodge, >>> >>> Whilst I appreciate the intent of your email, I feel that your exact >>> presentation is hostile in nature. I do not appreciate what I consider >>> to >>> be an accusation of failings as a secretary. Committee meetings have >>> been >>> held in a seperate location due to the lack of conducive environment, >>> mostly due to external volume. In the section of the constitution that >>> you >>> have so kindly provided, there is no mention of requirements for >>> location, >>> nor any mention of informing the general memberbase. The notifications >>> given are merely a curtesy, and if you (or anybody else) wish to attend >>> a >>> committee meeting, please do not hesitate to contact myself or any other >>> member of committee. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Cain Nixey >>> UCC Secretary 2016 >>> >>> Dear committee, >>> >>> I feel you should be made well aware of the requirements regarding >>> notice >>> of committee meetings (Section 15.2 of the constitution) >>> >>> The Secretary shall cause all members of the Committee to receive >>> >>> written or email notice of any meeting of the Committee at least four >>> days >>> before the date of the meeting. >>> >>> This is done in an automated manner by a script that emails the >>> committee >>> list four days in advance (with reminders at 24 hours, 6 hours, and one >>> hour). This email includes the words "The meeting will be held in the >>> UCC >>> Clubroom.". However, todays meeting was not held in the UCC clubroom (or >>> near it), but at a location not sent to the list (the Club Collaborative >>> Zone, in the main guild building). This is contrary to the the club's >>> constitution (as the public committee list was informed of the location >>> and no other communication was made to amend or cancel that >>> notification). >>> >>> The committee was reminded at this year's AGM to ensure that official >>> communication channels were used. Recent behavior seems to show that >>> this >>> reminder has not been heeded. >>> >>> John Hodge [TPG] >>> UCC Wheel Member, sitting in the clubroom. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160929/62e75666/attachment-0001.htm From tpg at ucc.asn.au Thu Sep 29 13:54:41 2016 From: tpg at ucc.asn.au (John Hodge) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:54:41 +0800 Subject: [committee] Meeting notifications In-Reply-To: References: <50D953E0-82CA-4084-809D-15EE4497EDF6@theducks.org> Message-ID: Thank you for updating the notices Oscar. However, I was unaware of the change of location (I have not attended a committee meeting this semester due to having a class during that time). While having the location on the display is a very good idea, the official notice did say the clubroom (hence my email). I do suggest that this incident be minuted in the next meeting, even if it is not discussed in detail. John Hodge [TPG] Less grumpy today. On 29/09/16 11:52, Oscar Hermoso wrote: > This whole drama is ridiculous. > > [TPG], you should have known that the meeting is in the CCZ, meetings > have been held there for months. It even says so on Cerberus, at the > entrance to the clubroom. Also, [DJF], our treasurer, was in the > clubroom and at 4PM he mentioned he was going to be late to the > committee meeting, obviously implying that the meeting wouldn't be > held in the clubroom. > > [BLZ], that's a horrible reply - and you know it. Notice of meetings > is absolutely useless without a location, that's common sense. Whether > the constitution says it or not, the correct location should > absolutely be contained within the meeting notices. > > I've gone and updated the meeting scipts to contain the correct > location. Apologies that it wasn't done earlier. > > UCC already has enough drama as it is, please don't add to it > unnecessarily. This situation doesn't need to be brought up at the > next committee meeting. Nothing will come of it, it will simply extend > the meeting and in get in the way of productive conversation. > > Regards, > [CHS] > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Grace Rosario > <20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au > wrote: > > Hey Elton, > > Do you mean dismiss the fact that John raised a valid point in an > email where I cannot see offensive material, unless it was the > presumption that the secretary may not be doing his job by not > using the official channels to communicate? > Or dismiss the idea that the committee could have responded to it > in a more congenial manner? > > Sweeping it under the rug won't help. > > Grace Rosario > > On 29 September 2016 at 03:06, Elton Rodrigues > <21721678 at student.uwa.edu.au > > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > It's clear to see this discussion could have been handled > better. I believe it is only reasonable to try and resolve > this by starting afresh. I would like to propose this matter > be considered dismissed and any issues can be raised again in > an appropriate and respectful manner. > > Elton Rodrigues > Social Vice President > > > On 29 September 2016 at 01:48, Alex Dawson > wrote: > > This isn't a parliamentary enquiry under oath - get off > your high horse and fix the damn email auto notification > to display the correct location :P > > -- > Alex Dawson > 604.763.4210 > > On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:47 AM, Cain Nixey > > wrote: > >> Hi John Hodge, >> >> Whilst I appreciate the intent of your email, I feel that >> your exact >> presentation is hostile in nature. I do not appreciate >> what I consider to >> be an accusation of failings as a secretary. Committee >> meetings have been >> held in a seperate location due to the lack of conducive >> environment, >> mostly due to external volume. In the section of the >> constitution that you >> have so kindly provided, there is no mention of >> requirements for location, >> nor any mention of informing the general memberbase. The >> notifications >> given are merely a curtesy, and if you (or anybody else) >> wish to attend a >> committee meeting, please do not hesitate to contact >> myself or any other >> member of committee. >> >> Regards, >> Cain Nixey >> UCC Secretary 2016 >> >> Dear committee, >> >> I feel you should be made well aware of the requirements >> regarding notice >> of committee meetings (Section 15.2 of the constitution) >> >>>> The Secretary shall cause all members of the Committee >>>> to receive > >> written or email notice of any meeting of the Committee >> at least four days >> before the date of the meeting. >> >> This is done in an automated manner by a script that >> emails the committee >> list four days in advance (with reminders at 24 hours, 6 >> hours, and one >> hour). This email includes the words "The meeting will be >> held in the UCC >> Clubroom.". However, todays meeting was not held in the >> UCC clubroom (or >> near it), but at a location not sent to the list (the >> Club Collaborative >> Zone, in the main guild building). This is contrary to >> the the club's >> constitution (as the public committee list was informed >> of the location >> and no other communication was made to amend or cancel >> that notification). >> >> The committee was reminded at this year's AGM to ensure >> that official >> communication channels were used. Recent behavior seems >> to show that this >> reminder has not been heeded. >> >> John Hodge [TPG] >> UCC Wheel Member, sitting in the clubroom. >> _______________________________________________ >> List Archives: >> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > List Archives: > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > List Archives: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/committee/attachments/20160929/58d8dec6/attachment.htm From tpg at ucc.asn.au Thu Sep 29 14:17:41 2016 From: tpg at ucc.asn.au (John Hodge) Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 14:17:41 +0800 Subject: [committee] Agenda Item - Change meeting location to UCC Clubroom Message-ID: <7bd3c552-3cc2-5ff1-a7b0-b4849dc04c89@ucc.asn.au> Dear Committee, I would like to place the topic of the committee meeting location on the agenda for the next meeting. Traditionally, the meetings of the UCC committee have been held in the UCC clubroom, barring special cases where the meeting discusses sensitive issues (which usually lead to the committee moving to a quiet huddle in the far corner of the loft). Holding meetings in the clubroom opens the administrative process up to members who would normally not be aware of how the club is run, or what is happening outside their own circle. I understand that the decision was made to move the meetings to the Club Collaborative Zone was made to avoid the pervasive noise of Cameron Hall, however this noise problem can usually be dealt with by politely asking the users of the loft to be quiet for the duration of the meeting, and disallowing the use of speakers/voice chat. John Hodge [TPG] UCC Wheel Member / Ex President