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Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 20450 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/secretbunker/attachments/20071221/fd248bd7/attachment-0001.jpeg From theodore at ucc.asn.au Sun Dec 23 00:07:14 2007 From: theodore at ucc.asn.au (admin) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:07:14 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Welcome to the UCC Forum: Please read and follow these rules Message-ID: <8@ucc.gs> Welcome everyone after a few solid minutes of hard work the UCC now has a forum of its very own. But with great power, comes great responsibility. If we don't all work to keep this a fun place to hang out, then it gets taken away and shot, just like Uncle Ben. So read the rules, adhere to them and remember to report infractions to the mods or site admin. Forum Rules: 1. No Cheating. Period. We will not do your homework for you, we've probably already done that unit, and you won't learn anything anyway. Feel free to provide error logs or ask why something won't work. But if you haven't put in any effort, why should anyone else? 2. Use correct sentence structure. This includes correct capitalisation, spelling, grammar and punctuation and NO leet speak. Again, if you don't take the time to format your post in a readable format, why should anyone bother to write a readable reply? 3. A place for everything and everything in its place. We have 3 different sections. If you have a uni question, post in Academia, a tech/computer question put it in the Tech Lounge and if you really have the urge to post crud, please do so in the Quarantine. 4. Don't break the rules. First 3 infractions invoke a 1 week ban from posting. Fourth is a 1 month ban from posting. Fifth and last is a total ban - posting and reading for 12 month ban. If you do find yourself banned feel free to ask us why, because... 5. We're all human. This isn't an anonymous internet forum. Everyone here knows almost else, so no drama. Don't post something on the forums that you wouldn't yell out in Cameron Hall. 6. The Quarantine is there for a reason. To keep the stupid posts confined. It is only there as an anion to your rusty posts that will undermine the structure of the rest of the forum. It is not moderated and as such do not expect the rules above to be heavily enforced. But like an eroded anion, expect it to be regularly cleaned and if necessary trashed. From James Sun Dec 23 00:04:50 2007 From: James (James) Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 00:04:50 WST Subject: [Secretbunker] test Message-ID: <460@ucc.gs> This is a test of papercut and the mailman mail/news gateway. James From theodore at ucc.asn.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:26 2007 From: theodore at ucc.asn.au (admin) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:26 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Welcome to the UCC Forum: Please read and follow these rules Message-ID: <7@ucc.asdf> Welcome everyone after a few solid minutes of hard work the UCC now has a forum of its very own. But with great power, comes great responsibility. If we don't all work to keep this a fun place to hang out, then it gets taken away and shot, just like Uncle Ben. So read the rules, adhere to them and remember to report infractions to the mods or site admin. Forum Rules: 1. No Cheating. Period. We will not do your homework for you, we've probably already done that unit, and you won't learn anything anyway. Feel free to provide error logs or ask why something won't work. But if you haven't put in any effort, why should anyone else? 2. Use correct sentence structure. This includes correct capitalisation, spelling, grammar and punctuation and NO leet speak. Again, if you don't take the time to format your post in a readable format, why should anyone bother to write a readable reply? 3. A place for everything and everything in its place. We have 3 different sections. If you have a uni question, post in Academia, a tech/computer question put it in the Tech Lounge and if you really have the urge to post crud, please do so in the Quarantine. 4. Don't break the rules. First 3 infractions invoke a 1 week ban from posting. Fourth is a 1 month ban from posting. Fifth and last is a total ban - posting and reading for 12 month ban. If you do find yourself banned feel free to ask us why, because... 5. We're all human. This isn't an anonymous internet forum. Everyone here knows almost else, so no drama. Don't post something on the forums that you wouldn't yell out in Cameron Hall. 6. The Quarantine is there for a reason. To keep the stupid posts confined. It is only there as an anion to your rusty posts that will undermine the structure of the rest of the forum. It is not moderated and as such do not expect the rules above to be heavily enforced. But like an eroded anion, expect it to be regularly cleaned and if necessary trashed. From megabyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: megabyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (megabyte) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Web Application Frameworks Message-ID: <45@ucc.asdf> I've been thinking of making my own CMS sort of thing for bands/musicians. To greatly simplify the process I would like to use an application framework of sorts. I have little experience in any except weblogic though work experience which is a steaming pile of crap. I've played around with Ruby on Rails before but that isn't really suitable as it's not easily redeployed on standard hosting. Sam has got me looking at Django as he has a hard on for Python. What is everyone else using these days? From theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (theodore) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread Message-ID: <46@ucc.asdf> For those of you, along with getting this forum up and running, who don't know I am in the process of upgrading the old UCC website. The new one currently sits here [url:168d9ukg]http://theodore.ucc.asn.au/ucctools/[/url:168d9ukg]. However at the moment, it is sorely lacking. Currently, its w3c compliant (No full IE support just yet), uses lots of CSS and the bare minimum of Javascript required to run the webcam. But its not all peaches just yet. It very low on content. So what I'm hoping is people will be happy to help me fill it, or even point out where things can be improved. The big areas that are missing: [list:168d9ukg]The whole "Events" and "Services" pages[/list:u:168d9ukg] [list:168d9ukg]A new page for committee, including outline the role of each committee member[/list:u:168d9ukg] [list:168d9ukg]Projects page[/list:u:168d9ukg] The RSS feed from news will be working soon, as soon as I have a decent back end written up for the News page, so dont worry about it looking like that for much longer. So yeah, anything you can do from CSS suggestions, Page content or new ideas will help, just post here and we should have a fresh new site up for next years batch of Freshers. From alex at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: alex at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (alex) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <51@ucc.asdf> Erm, please don't try web design as a career. Think more about updating the content, and less about putting this new design in place. From cameron at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: cameron at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (cameron) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <53@ucc.asdf> The design looks incredibly bad. Perhaps you should enlist the aid of Davyd or Alex to come up with something less crappy? What, if anything, are you using as content management? I think that is potentially one area in which the UCC website could be improved. I know that some people have spoken about moving to ikiwiki, but it'd be a reasonable project to turn that into something that looks non-crap for UCC. From alex at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: alex at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (alex) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <54@ucc.asdf> Cameron: I'm actually reasonably happy with the current design. It could do with a tiny bit of sprucing up, but aside from that, it's modern and appropriate. From theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (theodore) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <55@ucc.asdf> [quote="alex":mt24wliq]Erm, please don't try web design as a career. Think more about updating the content, and less about putting this new design in place.[/quote:mt24wliq] Care to elaborate on what its lacking at the moment. I know the color scheme needs to be tweaked (read: changed) but thats a small enough task for later. Being this is my first major outing in HTML, PHP and CSS I haven't thought it too bad so far, but it has a long way to go I admit. I'm not saying that its perfect, but I'd like a little constructive criticism is all. From cameron at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: cameron at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (cameron) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Web Application Frameworks References: <45@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <56@ucc.asdf> I thought bands were all on myspace these days ;-p From alex at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: alex at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (alex) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <57@ucc.asdf> theodore: Let me put you out of your misery and say that nothing you could possibly do would make that design look better than the current one. Have a look at http://csszengarden.com .. some of the best web designs on the planet. Basically, come up with a better design, and people will be won over. Otherwise, it will be rejected. Some people do webdesign, some don't. I don't do webdesign, I can judge and apply templates. I know my limitations. From davyd at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: davyd at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (davyd) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <58@ucc.asdf> Umm... ok. I think you're missing the core of the problem with the UCC website. The problem is not the layout, it's the content. Here is what I would recommend: - switching the website over to something backed off MoinMoin (the thing that run's UCC's wiki), we already have a UCC theme engine that could be adapted for this - Integrate this Moin instance into the UCC LDAP directory, so that anyone in the www-data group can edit pages - write XSLT transforms to generate Moin syntax for all of the existing UCC webpages, to preseed the whole thing with content. - profit! Here are the advantages: - easy to use WYSIWYG editor, integrated into our authentication system - maintained app, not some PHP hack - less possible security holes Moin can still be extended with plugins to do speciality things, like integrate an events application, etc. There are a lot of really awesome things that could be done (e.g. tag clouds, etc.) Also, div-popup menus are very 2000. They're really not something that's done any more. Gradients and rounded corners are where it's at. From nightrdr at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: nightrdr at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (nightrdr) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <62@ucc.asdf> Well, if you don't like the new site design, come up with your own, otherwise stop complaining. The new site is going up, if you can create something better, great, we'll put that up. Until, then, hahahahahaha say goodbye to your precious old site! From theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (theodore) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <66@ucc.asdf> [quote="davyd":lk8wr8f6] Also, div-popup menus are very 2000. They're really not something that's done any more. Gradients and rounded corners are where it's at.[/quote:lk8wr8f6] They are there for functionality, I was trying to make the site easier to navigate. But if div-popups are out of style, you should let people know. Here is a list of folks you should contact to let them know to update their sites: http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.iinet.net.au http://www.bigpond.com http://www.novell.com/linux/ http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/ http://www.ibm.com/us/ I will work on putting more round corners in though, they do seem popular. From grahame at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: grahame at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (grahame) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums Message-ID: <68@ucc.asdf> Forums are a blight upon the Internet. They are for idiots being answered by other idiots. Use the mailing lists, swallow a clue, do things properly. This place has dancing fscking tigers and "who do all your base belong to" thread. Immolate it. This place must burn. My vote is that wheel immediately drop the tables this thing runs out of, and removes the web group membership of whoever was foolish enough to set it up. From cameron at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: cameron at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (cameron) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <69@ucc.asdf> I think we should also lock the accounts of anyone who's ever posted here. From alex at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: alex at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (alex) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <71@ucc.asdf> [quote="nightrdr":3lmmbyt4]Well, if you don't like the new site design, come up with your own, otherwise stop complaining. The new site is going up, if you can create something better, great, we'll put that up. Until, then, hahahahahaha say goodbye to your precious old site![/quote:3lmmbyt4] Grow up. From maset at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: maset at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (maset) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] haha References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <72@ucc.asdf> Well done on your troll, not a bad payoff for a little work. For your next troll I recommend suggesting an ammendment to the UCC constitution. From davyd at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: davyd at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (davyd) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <73@ucc.asdf> [quote="theodore":1omxwjen][quote="davyd":1omxwjen] Also, div-popup menus are very 2000. They're really not something that's done any more. Gradients and rounded corners are where it's at.[/quote:1omxwjen] They are there for functionality, I was trying to make the site easier to navigate. But if div-popups are out of style, you should let people know. Here is a list of folks you should contact to let them know to update their sites: http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.iinet.net.au http://www.bigpond.com http://www.novell.com/linux/ http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/ http://www.ibm.com/us/ I will work on putting more round corners in though, they do seem popular.[/quote:1omxwjen] Truly a selection of quality sites. If all of these web developers jumped off a cliff, would you do it too? Like I said, you should solve the actual problem, not some imagined problem. From theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:27 2007 From: theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (theodore) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:27 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <78@ucc.asdf> This is meant to compliment the mailing lists. I don't know if you've noticed, but mailing lists are aging, badly and they won't help bring in new members. The forums were put up early so people would be aware of them, already there are a few legitimate questions being asked here by members asking for help. But next year, when we have a new influx of freshers, its hoped that they'll post questions here looking for help and maybe you, and everyone else, will provide that. Its got those threads because the internet will always have retards, in any form but if its contained outside of the actual help threads it will make it less obvious. This place is needed so the old guard you always claim they have the best interests of the club at heart can help us educate the next few batches that come through, as I doubt many of you frequent the CSHelp forums much. The knowledge of real-world applications of the things learned here at uni will help cement UCC's relevance in their minds and keep them coming back to help others alike. From nightrdr at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: nightrdr at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (nightrdr) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <79@ucc.asdf> Old Guard are a blight upon the Internet. They are idiots for being answered by other idiots. Use the freshers, make them happy, do things properly. This club has bitching fsking old guard and "real uccans". Immolate them. They must burn. My vote is that ucc immediately drop the old guard this thing club has too many of, and removes the membership of anyone who has been here too long. From nightrdr at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: nightrdr at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (nightrdr) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <83@ucc.asdf> the actual problem is that the old site sucked, theodore fixed that, the new site is much better, you're just bitter. From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (trs80) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <87@ucc.asdf> [quote="theodore":34oaidqg][quote="davyd":34oaidqg]Also, div-popup menus are very 2000. They're really not something that's done any more. Gradients and rounded corners are where it's at.[/quote:34oaidqg] They are there for functionality, I was trying to make the site easier to navigate. But if div-popups are out of style, you should let people know. Here is a list of folks you should contact to let them know to update their sites: http://www.ubuntu.com http://www.iinet.net.au http://www.bigpond.com http://www.novell.com/linux/ http://www.engineersaustralia.org.au/ http://www.ibm.com/us/ [/quote:34oaidqg] You'll notice that all those websites use drop-down menus, not side-popup menus which are a lot harder to use, because the mouse has to stay within a small vertical area while moving to the pop-up bit, instead of a wide horizontal area. And you then have to change mouse direction to select, instead of just continuing down. Did you learn anything in HCI? From adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (adrian) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <95@ucc.asdf> [quote="trs80":1mycx166] You'll notice that all those websites use drop-down menus, not side-popup menus which are a lot harder to use, because the mouse has to stay within a small vertical area while moving to the pop-up bit, instead of a wide horizontal area. And you then have to change mouse direction to select, instead of just continuing down. Did you learn anything in HCI?[/quote:1mycx166] :) Come on, this -is- UWA CompSci. Give him a break. :) Yes, try drop-down menus instead. The colour scheme is awful. Find a graphic/website savvy person at UCC and ask them for feedback. Oh, and don't forget to check your stuff isn't vulnerable. :) From ninjeff at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: ninjeff at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (ninjeff) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <101@ucc.asdf> [quote="grahame":1n0qxr8m]Forums are a blight upon the Internet. They are for idiots being answered by other idiots. Use the mailing lists, swallow a clue, do things properly. This place has dancing fscking tigers and "who do all your base belong to" thread. Immolate it. This place must burn. My vote is that wheel immediately drop the tables this thing runs out of, and removes the web group membership of whoever was foolish enough to set it up.[/quote:1n0qxr8m]this is a fakepost right this has to be a fakepost From hell_hound at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: hell_hound at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (hell_hound) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <110@ucc.asdf> i say you move with the times. From vixen at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: vixen at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (vixen) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Vixen's Noob Homepage Message-ID: <114@ucc.asdf> My homepage vixen.ucc.asn.au is under construction atm. I was wondering, is it easy to have a 2nd page up on ucc to link to from my index.html? Such as a links page. Also, whats the deal with getting a simple blog set up on your ucc homepage? Thats about it for now, except: I'M LEARNING TO USE VIM YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From thebmw at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: thebmw at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (thebmw) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Vixen's Noob Homepage References: <114@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <122@ucc.asdf> [quote="vixen":2uk9axyh]My homepage vixen.ucc.asn.au is under construction atm. I was wondering, is it easy to have a 2nd page up on ucc to link to from my index.html? Such as a links page.[/quote:2uk9axyh] Not quite sure what you mean here? [quote="vixen":2uk9axyh]I'M LEARNING TO USE VIM YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote:2uk9axyh] Vim is awesome. Make sure you have syntax highlighting on for greater awesomeness. From theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (theodore) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Vixen's Noob Homepage References: <114@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <123@ucc.asdf> [quote="vixen":3wicclwz]My homepage vixen.ucc.asn.au is under construction atm. I was wondering, is it easy to have a 2nd page up on ucc to link to from my index.html? Such as a links page. [/quote:3wicclwz] All you need to do is create another file in your ~/public-html/ directory and have something like this: [code:3wicclwz] <a href="./nameofyourfile.html">Click here to view my other page</a> [/code:3wicclwz] Is that what you meant? [quote="vixen":3wicclwz] Also, whats the deal with getting a simple blog set up on your ucc homepage? [/quote:3wicclwz] [url=http://wordpress.org/download/:3wicclwz]Wordpress[/url:3wicclwz] is good, but their is a list of other options here: [url:3wicclwz]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blog_software[/url:3wicclwz] If it runs on PHP, perl or python it should install and run no problem straight from your ~/public-html/ directory. If it needs MySQL you'll need a database on mussel, and I kept nagging people until the database for this showed up, so I'd do that. Start with Frenchie then work from there... From vixen at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: vixen at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (vixen) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Vixen's Noob Homepage References: <114@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <126@ucc.asdf> [quote:216nyjcc]Is that what you meant? [/quote:216nyjcc] Yep I think thats what I meant. Thanks for the link to the blog thing. Spyn is writing me one now I think, it should work. More problems cropping up. Links in my nav bar are not working on macs. Work from firefox and IE on a windows machine, but not firefox or safari on my mac. Ideas? From hell_hound at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: hell_hound at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (hell_hound) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Vixen's Noob Homepage References: <114@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <132@ucc.asdf> intersting site GW From vixen at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: vixen at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (vixen) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Vixen's Noob Homepage References: <114@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <137@ucc.asdf> [quote="hell_hound":35v7qjae]intersting site GW[/quote:35v7qjae] Thanks for the in depth constructive criticism HH. But I cant take any credit for it. Most of the work is spyn's, I'm just messing it up in VIM XD From vixen at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: vixen at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (vixen) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <139@ucc.asdf> [quote="nightrdr":17hvitb8]Old Guard are a blight upon the Internet. They are idiots for being answered by other idiots. Use the freshers, make them happy, do things properly. This club has bitching fsking old guard and "real uccans". Immolate them. They must burn. My vote is that ucc immediately drop the old guard this thing club has too many of, and removes the membership of anyone who has been here too long.[/quote:17hvitb8] Its possible the old guard are bots, and so we should hunt them down and burn them with a homemade flame thrower. [url:17hvitb8]http://how2dostuff.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-make-flamethrower.html[/url:17hvitb8] From hell_hound at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: hell_hound at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (hell_hound) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <140@ucc.asdf> [quote="vixen":1dipv8yd][quote="nightrdr":1dipv8yd]Old Guard are a blight upon the Internet. They are idiots for being answered by other idiots. Use the freshers, make them happy, do things properly. This club has bitching fsking old guard and "real uccans". Immolate them. They must burn. My vote is that ucc immediately drop the old guard this thing club has too many of, and removes the membership of anyone who has been here too long.[/quote:1dipv8yd] Its possible the old guard are bots, and so we should hunt them down and burn them with a homemade flame thrower. [url:1dipv8yd]http://how2dostuff.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-make-flamethrower.html[/url:1dipv8yd][/quote:1dipv8yd] +1 From hell_hound at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: hell_hound at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (hell_hound) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Vixen's Noob Homepage References: <114@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <141@ucc.asdf> [quote="vixen":1j657cs5][quote="hell_hound":1j657cs5]intersting site GW[/quote:1j657cs5] Thanks for the in depth constructive criticism HH. But I cant take any credit for it. Most of the work is spyn's, I'm just messing it up in VIM XD[/quote:1j657cs5] well i do try hard :D From thebmw at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:28 2007 From: thebmw at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (thebmw) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:28 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <143@ucc.asdf> [quote="vixen":2c22mpe4][quote="nightrdr":2c22mpe4]Old Guard are a blight upon the Internet. They are idiots for being answered by other idiots. Use the freshers, make them happy, do things properly. This club has bitching fsking old guard and "real uccans". Immolate them. They must burn. My vote is that ucc immediately drop the old guard this thing club has too many of, and removes the membership of anyone who has been here too long.[/quote:2c22mpe4] Its possible the old guard are bots, and so we should hunt them down and burn them with a homemade flame thrower. [url:2c22mpe4]http://how2dostuff.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-make-flamethrower.html[/url:2c22mpe4][/quote:2c22mpe4] As someone who's starting down the path from mid to old guard, I don't like this plan too much. From ninjeff at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:29 2007 From: ninjeff at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (ninjeff) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:29 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Vixen's Noob Homepage References: <114@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <185@ucc.asdf> this was gonna be a post full of under construction gifs from the 90s but i got lazy so just squint and take a drink instead From jarrad at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 23 02:01:29 2007 From: jarrad at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jarrad) Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:01:29 -0000 Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <214@ucc.asdf> [quote="grahame":1waw0wpk]Forums are a blight upon the Internet. They are for idiots being answered by other idiots. Use the mailing lists, swallow a clue, do things properly. This place has dancing fscking tigers and "who do all your base belong to" thread. Immolate it. This place must burn. My vote is that wheel immediately drop the tables this thing runs out of, and removes the web group membership of whoever was foolish enough to set it up.[/quote:1waw0wpk] Who is the bigger idiot, the man who posts on a forum calling forum posters idiots, or the idiot who replies to him? From sj26 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Dec 8 21:31:13 2007 From: sj26 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (sj26) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:31:13 WST Subject: [Secretbunker] Get rid of these forums References: <68@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <229@ucc.asdf> Perhaps a more constructive piece of advise would be "Let's write something that combines web 2.0 style forums and mailing lists" and integrate the two. Much like [url=http://groups.google.com/:1b4ssaa2]Google Groups[/url:1b4ssaa2]. [size=134:1b4ssaa2]Pros:[/size:1b4ssaa2] [list=1:1b4ssaa2][*:1b4ssaa2]It's an interesting programming topic that could get people involved in development, not just gaming.[/*:m:1b4ssaa2] [*:1b4ssaa2]It gives us an up-to-date web interface which is what those hip young Internet people expect.[/*:m:1b4ssaa2] [*:1b4ssaa2]It keeps the old guard happy by continuing the mailing list, albeit in a new form.[/*:m:1b4ssaa2][/list:o:1b4ssaa2] [size=134:1b4ssaa2]Cons:[/size:1b4ssaa2] [list:1b4ssaa2][*:1b4ssaa2]More spam - Solution: only subscribe to wanted forums/lists. Limit some forums (like announcements) to serious topics only. Moderate.[/*:m:1b4ssaa2] [*:1b4ssaa2]Stupid people - Solution: ban them.[/*:m:1b4ssaa2] [*:1b4ssaa2]Publishing emails online for harvesting - Solution: obfuscation.[/*:m:1b4ssaa2] [*:1b4ssaa2]Forum spam - Solution: [url=http://akismet.com/:1b4ssaa2]akistmet[/url:1b4ssaa2].[/*:m:1b4ssaa2][/list:u:1b4ssaa2] Also: I'm surprised this doesn't use [url=http://www.phpbb.com/development/:1b4ssaa2]phpBB 3[/url:1b4ssaa2] at least, if not a non-php solution... It's quite stable and much more featureful. From rvvs89 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 9 18:57:28 2007 From: rvvs89 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (rvvs89) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 18:57:28 WST Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <238@ucc.asdf> :o The UCC web site is down! From rvvs89 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 9 19:16:46 2007 From: rvvs89 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (rvvs89) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:16:46 WST Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <241@ucc.asdf> [quote="theodore":k7abumb6]Also, there is no ssh access to ssh.ucc.asn.au, so who knows?[/quote:k7abumb6] Lies, it's working fine for me. Edit:[quote="#ucc":k7abumb6]20:33 < Frenchie> ucc website was down because I was upgrading mooneye 20:33 < Frenchie> also why ucc mail wasn't alive 20:34 < msh> ah, twas you 20:34 < msh> thought it was trs80 20:36 < rvvs89> I had my eye on Sam 20:36 < rvvs89> heh[/quote:k7abumb6] From majickian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Dec 12 09:35:50 2007 From: majickian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (majickian) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:35:50 WST Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <357@ucc.asdf> why the hell is everyone attacking Sam for doing a job that no one else is willing to do. If you don't like the job he is doing guys then do something better yourself. Also, i do believe that a website does go through testing before its put live isn't it? So instead of telling him to stop right now, how about some constructive criticism? i just agreed with Rowan, DEAR GOD NO!!!!! From theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Dec 9 19:14:40 2007 From: theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (theodore) Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:14:40 WST Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <240@ucc.asdf> [quote="rvvs89":3ajm34v9]:o The UCC web site is down![/quote:3ajm34v9] Don't look at me, I didn't do anything. Also, there is no ssh access to ssh.ucc.asn.au, so who knows? And no access to member pages too? From theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Dec 12 10:34:12 2007 From: theodore at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (theodore) Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:34:12 WST Subject: [Secretbunker] UCC Webpage Upgrade Thread References: <46@ucc.asdf> Message-ID: <368@ucc.asdf> [quote="rvvs89":1jnmh5d2][quote="theodore" Edit:[quote="#ucc":1jnmh5d2]20:33 < Frenchie> ucc website was down because I was upgrading mooneye 20:33 < Frenchie> also why ucc mail wasn't alive 20:34 < msh> ah, twas you 20:34 < msh> thought it was trs80 20:36 < rvvs89> I had my eye on Sam 20:36 < rvvs89> heh[/quote:1jnmh5d2][/quote:1jnmh5d2] Don't worry I thought it was me to. I just couldn't remember if it was on not. 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