From john at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 3 16:55:04 2000 From: john at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (John West McKenna) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:46 2004 Subject: [tech] MIT's ant farm Message-ID: <200004030855.QAA23885@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Oh wow. Here's a robotics project that's worthy of imitation (but WAY beyond my abilities). It's a colony of extremely small robots. 35mm*35mm*30mm, 35g. 4 IR sensors, 4 visible light sensors, 2 bump sensors, 5 'food' sensors (whatever they are), 1 tilt sensor, 2 mandible position sensors, an IR beacon emitter, an IR 'tag' emitter, and 3 LEDs. "Cost: $300 in parts and who knows how many hundreds of thousands in labor." They made six in two days. That's pretty impressive. The joys of unpaid student labour ("do it or you fail"). http://www.ai.mit.edu/projects/ants/ From dunc at rcpt.to Wed Apr 5 15:06:30 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:47 2004 Subject: [tech] 9G wide scsi drives Message-ID: <20000405150629.P31537@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> At the last committee meeting we were looking at getting a new /home. Here are a couple of quotes from Comdek: IBM Ultrastar 18ES (7.0ms Ultra2 SCSI) $395 Seagate ST39236LW Barracuda 18XL (5.8ms Ultra160 SCSI) $405 http://commerce.www.ibm.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce/CategoryDisplay?cgrfnbr=2040313&cgmenbr=1&cntry=840&lang=en_US http://www.seagate.com:80/cda/products/discsales/marketing/detail/0,1121,188,00.shtml Both are: 72000rpm, 3.5", 68pin, with 2meg cache, 5 year warranty. Seagate claims the higher throughput. The Ultrastar 36LP (next model up - 7200 4.1ms 4meg cache) were $525 The Seagate Cheetah (gah, 10000rpm goodness) was $585. My vote's with the Barracuda. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 5 15:19:49 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:47 2004 Subject: [tech] 9G wide scsi drives In-Reply-To: <20000405150629.P31537@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Duncan Sargeant at "Apr 5, 2000 03:06:30 pm" Message-ID: <200004050719.PAA02107@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > IBM Ultrastar 18ES (7.0ms Ultra2 SCSI) $395 > Seagate ST39236LW Barracuda 18XL (5.8ms Ultra160 SCSI) $405 > Both are: 72000rpm, 3.5", 68pin, with 2meg cache, 5 year warranty. > > My vote's with the Barracuda. Either/or. My IBMs are quiet, fast and remain cool. My 'cudas are loud, fast and warm. *shrug* Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From dunc at rcpt.to Wed Apr 5 15:28:12 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:48 2004 Subject: [tech] 9G wide scsi drives In-Reply-To: <200004050719.PAA02107@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Wed, Apr 05, 2000 at 03:19:49PM +0800 References: <20000405150629.P31537@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004050719.PAA02107@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000405152812.Q31537@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> David Manchester wrote on Wed April 05, at 15:19 +0800: > > IBM Ultrastar 18ES (7.0ms Ultra2 SCSI) $395 > > Seagate ST39236LW Barracuda 18XL (5.8ms Ultra160 SCSI) $405 > > Both are: 72000rpm, 3.5", 68pin, with 2meg cache, 5 year warranty. > > > > My vote's with the Barracuda. > > Either/or. My IBMs are quiet, fast and remain cool. > My 'cudas are loud, fast and warm. Well, UCS's new ST39236LW just arrived, so I'll pop it in a test box to run tonight and I'll see how warm it is by the committee meeting tomorrow :-) ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 7 09:49:22 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:48 2004 Subject: [tech] [slawinsk@cwr.uwa.edu.au: Fwd: great prices on SGI Indy Boxen (fwd)] Message-ID: <20000407094922.D31606@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Hmmm... A good price for decent machines. Shipping's always the killer, though. The idea of the UCC sea-container-load sounds promising... Nick. ----- Forwarded message from Dirk Slawinski ----- Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2000 08:32:43 +0800 To: nick@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au From: Dirk Slawinski Subject: Fwd: great prices on SGI Indy Boxen (fwd) Nick, if you can arrange shipping I'm sure Karen would do the brokering. >The forwarded e-mail below mentions that the U. might be creating a large >order of the Irix Indy boxes (the teal one's in the lab, and which a few >other people have) because there is a person who wants to unload a bunch >of them for $225. I know we as a department are probably moving away from >these, but it might not be a bad idea to pick up one or two at this price >for spare parts, if nothing else. I would love to get a couple, but that's >me liking to tinker as much as anything else, it certainly isn't critical >to the lab or the departmental computing. But spare parts would be great. > >However, if anyone else is interested for any reason, I'd be happy to be >the intermediary. > >-Karen > > >---------- Forwarded message ---------- >Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:12:03 -0700 >From: Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom >To: tcsa@tcsa.org >Subject: [fwd][TCLUG:15569] SGI Indy Boxen > > someone on the Twin Cities Linux Users Group posted this: >>Browsing tradeout.com (a business that specializes in close out >>inventories), I found someone with ONE THOUSAND SGI Indy Boxes to >>unload. >> >>Asking price is $225 each which includes 133MHz R4600 CPU, 2GB SCSI >>drive, 64MB RAM, Irix, 17" monitor. >> >>The only problem is that the minimum order is 100 units. Oeyh. >> >>Chris S > >there seem to be a bunch of people interested in buying several of them; so >it is feasable that we may get enough people together. :) someone is also >going to talk to the supplier, and see if the minimum order can be negotiated. > >people are making noises about building a beowulf cluster with them. >(RC5/SETI/POV-ray work...) > >someone suggested making Xterms with them. :) > >I'm putting in for 2 of them, myself. > >the big stumbling block right now seems to be "where do we ship all of them >to?" 100 Indys takes up a bit of space... > >anyone have any suggestions? >who wants one? > >Carl Soderstrom >System Administrator 307 Brighton Ave. >Minnesota DHIA Buffalo, MN >carls@agritech.com (763) 682-1091 > > >--end forwarded message--- > > >* * >Karen Swanberg | >Network Admin. | The truth is out there? >Dept. of Geology/Geophysics | Does anyone know the URL? >206 Pillsbury Hall | >310 Pillsbury Ave. SE | >University of Mn | Enter any 11-digit prime >Minneapolis, MN 55455 | number to continue... >(612) 624-6541 | >* * -- TTFN Dirk =:> "The Fur is out there": [Fox Mulder] /-----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Dirk Slawinski ,-_|\ Department of Computer Science/ | | / \ Centre for Water Research | | *_,-._/ University of Western Australia | | v CompSysAdmin | | PHONE: +61 8 9380 7113 (CWR w/voicemail) | | : +61 8 9380 7082 (CS w/voicemail) | | FAX: +61 8 9380 1015 (CWR) ]] | | EMAIL: slawinsk@cwr.uwa.edu.au d") | | WEB: http://www.cwr.uwa.edu.au/~slawinsk/ _(@)_ | \-----------------------------------------------------------------------/ <-----------------------------------------------------------------------> /-----------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Watch for important CWR computer related information at: | | http://www.cwr.uwa.edu.au/comp_support/index.html | \-----------------------------------------------------------------------/ ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 7 09:53:25 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:48 2004 Subject: [tech] Indies and sigfiles In-Reply-To: <20000407094922.D31606@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from nick@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 09:49:22AM +0800 References: <20000407094922.D31606@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000407095325.C6124@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Jesus Hopping Christ. How can Dirk call himself a Sysadmin with a .signature like that!?! Shipping those Indies mightn't be such an excellent idea, since you'd end up with 100 17" Northern Hemisphere monitors that'll either need to be recalibrated or junqued... Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 7 10:00:50 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:48 2004 Subject: [tech] Indies and sigfiles In-Reply-To: <20000407095325.C6124@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 09:53:25AM +0800 References: <20000407094922.D31606@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000407095325.C6124@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000407100050.A10451@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 09:53:25AM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > Jesus Hopping Christ. How can Dirk call himself a Sysadmin with a .signature > like that!?! > Shipping those Indies mightn't be such an excellent idea, since you'd > end up with 100 17" Northern Hemisphere monitors that'll either need to > be recalibrated or junqued... Well, I don't think we could quite manage an order of 100. ::-) The northern/southern hemisphere stuff intrigues me. eg people use unmodified NH 19" Apollo monitors here, but there's quite definitely a NH and SH model available so you'd assume there's _some_ difference in alignment or something... Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From vyxn at vyxn.net Fri Apr 7 10:10:51 2000 From: vyxn at vyxn.net (Balmik Soin) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:49 2004 Subject: [tech] Indies and sigfiles In-Reply-To: <20000407100050.A10451@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, Nick Bannon wrote: > On Fri, Apr 07, 2000 at 09:53:25AM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > Jesus Hopping Christ. How can Dirk call himself a Sysadmin with a .signature > > like that!?! Maybe he administers m$ boxes only.... :) > The northern/southern hemisphere stuff intrigues me. eg people use > unmodified NH 19" Apollo monitors here, but there's quite definitely a > NH and SH model available so you'd assume there's _some_ difference in > alignment or something... does someone have like a quick website detailing what this NH/SH thing is ? i'd heard it mentioned before but didnt really pay attention, now that im (barely) in the northern hemisphere id like to find out how it might affect me.... also, is there a standard way to tell if your monitor is NH or SH ? like some marking ? while im at it, what direction does the water spin when you flush the toilet ? Balmik. From david_luyer at pacific.net.au Fri Apr 7 17:57:22 2000 From: david_luyer at pacific.net.au (David Luyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:49 2004 Subject: [tech] Indies and sigfiles In-Reply-To: Message from Balmik Soin of "Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:10:51 +0800." References: Message-ID: <200004070957.TAA11204@typhaon.pacific.net.au> > does someone have like a quick website detailing what this NH/SH thing is > ? i'd heard it mentioned before but didnt really pay attention, now that > im (barely) in the northern hemisphere id like to find out how it might > affect me.... also, is there a standard way to tell if your monitor is NH > or SH ? like some marking ? And what about on the equator? Equatorial monitors? David. -- ---------------------------------------------- David Luyer Senior Network Engineer Pacific Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd Phone: +61 3 9674 7525 Fax: +61 3 9699 8693 Mobile: +61 4 1064 2258, +61 4 1114 2258 http://www.pacific.net.au NASDAQ: PCNTF << fast 'n easy >> ---------------------------------------------- From vyxn at vyxn.net Fri Apr 7 17:59:21 2000 From: vyxn at vyxn.net (Balmik Soin) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:49 2004 Subject: [tech] Indies and sigfiles In-Reply-To: <200004070957.TAA11204@typhaon.pacific.net.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Apr 2000, David Luyer wrote: > > does someone have like a quick website detailing what this NH/SH thing is > > ? i'd heard it mentioned before but didnt really pay attention, now that > > im (barely) in the northern hemisphere id like to find out how it might > > affect me.... also, is there a standard way to tell if your monitor is NH > > or SH ? like some marking ? > > And what about on the equator? Equatorial monitors? Actually was seriously wondering that, since im barely 4 degrees north of that... one thing i miss is having seasons :) Balmik. From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Apr 8 19:39:46 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:49 2004 Subject: [tech] Bizarre network problem Message-ID: <20000408193946.A1956@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Hiho, Can anyone tell me what I should do about this problem? My computer has a Netgear tulip card. From the machine I can ping other boxes on our network, but they can't ping me. I can also watch traffic going past when in promiscuous mode. The link light on the hub (for the socket I'm plugged into) doesn't turn on. It does (briefly) if I ping something, but not otherwise. For the other machines, including another with the same network card, the light is constantly on. We just ran a cable tester over the blue cable and it seems fine. Is there anyone out there that has seen this before? Cheers, -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From bongus at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Apr 9 12:47:40 2000 From: bongus at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Angus Stewart) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:50 2004 Subject: [tech] Bizarre network problem In-Reply-To: <20000408193946.A1956@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: > Can anyone tell me what I should do about this problem? My computer > has a Netgear tulip card. From the machine I can ping other boxes > on our network, but they can't ping me. I can also watch traffic > going past when in promiscuous mode. I have this same problem from my gateway at home... I turn icmp_echo replies off. > The link light on the hub (for the socket I'm plugged into) doesn't > turn on. It does (briefly) if I ping something, but not otherwise. > For the other machines, including another with the same network card, the > light is constantly on. It sounds like the card is dodgey. Easy to test - get that same card out of the other machine and try it where the suspect card is. Having the wrong driver can often do weird stuff too. I find the DOS-based diagnostics tools great for determining that it is a zapped card. > We just ran a cable tester over the blue cable and it seems fine. Is > there anyone out there that has seen this before? Lightning is bad.. mm'kay. From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Apr 9 14:51:50 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:50 2004 Subject: [tech] Bizarre network problem In-Reply-To: ; from bongus@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Apr 09, 2000 at 12:47:40PM +0800 References: <20000408193946.A1956@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000409145149.A18339@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Apr 09, Angus Stewart scrawled : > Lightning is bad.. mm'kay. > though how you'd get lightning down your ether I am wondering? /Jp -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere || Don't hate yourself in the morning, japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au || sleep until noon. caffeino ergo sum From vyxn at vyxn.net Sun Apr 9 14:57:32 2000 From: vyxn at vyxn.net (Balmik Soin) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:50 2004 Subject: [tech] Bizarre network problem In-Reply-To: <20000409145149.A18339@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Sun, 9 Apr 2000, Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: > > On Apr 09, Angus Stewart scrawled : > > > Lightning is bad.. mm'kay. > > > though how you'd get lightning down your ether I am wondering? wavelan aerial on your roof ? Balmik. (who's been looking into the /. articles regarding such with some interest... mite be a cool thing for ucc to do) From bongus at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Apr 9 15:19:44 2000 From: bongus at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Angus Stewart) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:50 2004 Subject: [tech] Bizarre network problem In-Reply-To: <20000409145149.A18339@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: > > Lightning is bad.. mm'kay. > though how you'd get lightning down your ether I am wondering? well.. I couple of years ago, our neighbourhood got "struck" - in our house it took out 4 network cards, a motherboard, a modem, the house alarm system, and a video recorder. I've returned several Xircom cards which have suddenly stopped working - network cards seem to have a higher failure rate. seeya, Angus (who ponders the existance of a 'lil high voltage electric detonator attached to an rj45 plug) From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Apr 9 15:40:17 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:50 2004 Subject: [tech] Bizarre network problem In-Reply-To: ; from bongus@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Apr 09, 2000 at 03:19:44PM +0800 References: <20000409145149.A18339@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000409154017.C18475@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Apr 09, Angus Stewart scrawled : > Angus (who ponders the existance of a 'lil high voltage > electric detonator attached to an rj45 plug) > read BOFH. They exist *grin* network traffic clearing device IIRC. cya, -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere || Don't hate yourself in the morning, japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au || sleep until noon. caffeino ergo sum From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 10 16:17:27 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:51 2004 Subject: [tech] This just leaked... Message-ID: <20000410161727.B22064@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Check out the new guild webpage. Is it just me, or does it look like a blank purple page from Netscape on a non-Intel/Mac platform? -grin- http://mosaic.net.au/portfolio.html - scroll to the Guild bit. -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 10 16:21:59 2000 From: mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Mark Tearle) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:51 2004 Subject: [tech] This just leaked... In-Reply-To: <20000410161727.B22064@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Grahame Bowland wrote: > Check out the new guild webpage. Is it just me, or does it look like > a blank purple page from Netscape on a non-Intel/Mac platform? -grin- > > http://mosaic.net.au/portfolio.html - scroll to the Guild bit. > Look at the UWA Logo Crime in the bottom corner, hey, you work for Publications, beat them up about it :) Yours Mark -- Mark Tearle - mtearle@tartarus.uwa.edu.au "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars." -- Oscar Wilde From devenish at gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 10 16:34:28 2000 From: devenish at gu.uwa.edu.au (James Devenish) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:51 2004 Subject: [tech] This just leaked... In-Reply-To: <20000410161727.B22064@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Grahame Bowland on Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 04:17:27PM +0800 References: <20000410161727.B22064@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000410163428.A4420@gulag.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 04:17:27PM +0800, Grahame Bowland wrote: > Check out the new guild webpage. Is it just me, or does it look like > a blank purple page from Netscape on a non-Intel/Mac platform? -grin- > > http://mosaic.net.au/portfolio.html - scroll to the Guild bit. Viewing it with Mac Navigator/Shockwave Flash it appears as intended. Still, very disturbing. Anyway, for the record, this "leak" does not represent the official new splash page for the Guild Web site. As far as I am aware (and this has occurred behind my back so I'm effectively out of the loop) this is merely some Flash which someone has done to impress someone else for the purposes of getting their attention and does not represent anything which will ultimately be used as the Guild home page. I think I'd better have a chat with some people... -- _ _______________________________________________________ _ / ) | | ( \ / / | | \ \ _( (_ | _ James Devenish _ | _) )_ (((\ \> |/ ) UWA Student Guild IT Officer ( \| \ / \ _/ \_ / / / | | \ \ / / | | \ \ / / |_______________________________________________________| \ \ From devenish at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 10 16:35:50 2000 From: devenish at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Devenish) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:51 2004 Subject: [tech] This just leaked... In-Reply-To: <20000410163040.A22355@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 04:30:41PM +0800 References: <20000410161727.B22064@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000410162448.A22263@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000410163040.A22355@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000410163550.A22378@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 04:30:41PM +0800, Grahame Bowland wrote: > The people doing it haven't even produced valid SGML. There isn't a DOCTYPE > on the top of their doucments, and they look like they've been produced with > some kindof non-notepad tool :-) LOL, but sadly true. > Considering this is a folio site, I'm guessing this is real. Mel Weise said > at SOC the other night that they had accepted a tender. I have just asked the Guild Marketing Officer and he says they are still considering tenders. > Anyway, I can't see > why this frontpage is done in Flash - there isn't anything there that > can't be done in HTML, except for the moving line. I think (read: hope) the Flash is just what is being done to try and secure the tender. The moving line is merely what appears while the Flash loads (=> it would be redundant if this splash page were done with HTML intrinsic events). -- _ _______________________________________________________ _ / ) | | ( \ / / | Regards, | \ \ _( (_ | _ James Devenish _ | _) )_ (((\ \> |/ ) ( \| \ / \ _/ \_ / / / | | \ \ / / | | \ \ / / |_______________________________________________________| \ \ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 10 16:54:11 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:51 2004 Subject: [tech] This just leaked... In-Reply-To: ; from mtearle@tartarus.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 04:21:59PM +0800 References: <20000410161727.B22064@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000410165411.A22733@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 04:21:59PM +0800, Mark Tearle wrote: > On Mon, 10 Apr 2000, Grahame Bowland wrote: > > > Check out the new guild webpage. Is it just me, or does it look like > > a blank purple page from Netscape on a non-Intel/Mac platform? -grin- > > > > http://mosaic.net.au/portfolio.html - scroll to the Guild bit. > > > Look at the UWA Logo Crime in the bottom corner, hey, you work for > Publications, beat them up about it :) My first email like that for a CWIS related matter. I basically asked them to read the guidelines and get permission to use the logo outside the University. -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 12 14:38:13 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:51 2004 Subject: [tech] starfish Message-ID: <20000412143813.D6077@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bingle As per several emails and some committee meeting minutes that I am yet to see appear on the list *glares at Dunc* apparently starfish will be taking up a new residence in the lounge room at waratah. Unless anyone has any major objections I would like to power starfish down some time in the next couple of days and then start to transport it - a bit at a time. Unless anyone has any major objections I will be sending out an email announcing the end of UCC services on starfish early tomorrow. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From david_luyer at pacific.net.au Wed Apr 12 15:18:28 2000 From: david_luyer at pacific.net.au (David Luyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:52 2004 Subject: [tech] starfish In-Reply-To: Message from Simon Fryer of "Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:38:13 +0800." <20000412143813.D6077@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20000412143813.D6077@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <200004120718.RAA22244@typhaon.pacific.net.au> > Unless anyone has any major objections I would like to power starfish > down some time in the next couple of days and then start to transport > it - a bit at a time. > > Unless anyone has any major objections I will be sending out an email > announcing the end of UCC services on starfish early tomorrow. Are you taking it complete - ie, with original hard disks and tape drive? I'd like it to be kept as a complete original. David. -- ---------------------------------------------- David Luyer Senior Network Engineer Pacific Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd Phone: +61 3 9674 7525 Fax: +61 3 9699 8693 Mobile: +61 4 1064 2258, +61 4 1114 2258 http://www.pacific.net.au NASDAQ: PCNTF << fast 'n easy >> ---------------------------------------------- From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 12 15:23:22 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:52 2004 Subject: [tech] starfish In-Reply-To: <200004120718.RAA22244@typhaon.pacific.net.au>; from David Luyer on Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 05:18:28PM +1000 References: <20000412143813.D6077@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004120718.RAA22244@typhaon.pacific.net.au> Message-ID: <20000412152322.F6077@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago David Luyer tapped: > > Unless anyone has any major objections I will be sending out an email > > announcing the end of UCC services on starfish early tomorrow. > > Are you taking it complete - ie, with original hard disks and tape > drive? > > I'd like it to be kept as a complete original. Yes, I will be grabbing everything. It has no value in parts. I am also going to get the VPU from shenton park eventually and, time permitting, when I am 50, try and get it going. When I can afford the power bill, I will try and keep it running full time but this me be a while. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 14 02:28:20 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:52 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt1 Message-ID: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing Have symlinked /var/spool/mail to /home/mail Have edited /usr/local/etc/Muttrc so that mail comes from and goes to the right places (I hope)! If someone has not already optimised morwongs sendmail.cf file for no spam relaying can someone please do so? Thanks. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 14 18:52:19 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:52 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt1 In-Reply-To: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from fryers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 02:28:20AM +0800 References: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 02:28:20AM +0800, Simon Fryer wrote: > Bing > > Have symlinked /var/spool/mail to /home/mail > > Have edited /usr/local/etc/Muttrc so that mail comes from and goes to the > right places (I hope)! > > If someone has not already optimised morwongs sendmail.cf file for no > spam relaying can someone please do so? Okay, I fixed the Muttrc as it had started thinking addresses were at gu.uwa.edu.au :-) In other news, it now has the GNU fileutils (ls, cp, ... install) in /usr/local/bin. These are useful to have around. I've also installed a tonne of other free and much used stuff (gcc 2.8.1, will try for 2.9.x but I keep running out of hard drive space.) Dispense is installed, but I'm still trying to figure how the server can be configured to trust morwong. I also made it do the UCC motd stuff today. -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 14 19:48:55 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:53 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [hwc] Re: 4 32mb 128mb kit, FPM, Parity, 72pin Simms (item #302154553) In-Reply-To: <200004140908.RAA12089@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 05:08:49PM +0800 References: <200004132214.2965800@online-sales.com> <200004140908.RAA12089@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000414194855.A12620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Apr 14, David Manchester scrawled : > > You were the high bidder > > Please send me your address so I can calculate shipping > > Hi Harry - I'm in Australia, so either we need to calculate > shipping to Western Australia - if you would be able to ship > it here, OR I'll have to contact an associate in the US, if > you will only ship trans-US. > > What would you like to do? > this is very good. :) ram for morwong? or the other alphas? btw, how much were they? /Jp -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere || Don't hate yourself in the morning, japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au || sleep until noon. caffeino ergo sum From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Apr 15 04:14:21 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:53 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt1 In-Reply-To: <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 06:52:19PM +0800 References: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Grahame Bowland tapped: > On Fri, Apr 14, 2000 at 02:28:20AM +0800, Simon Fryer wrote: > > If someone has not already optimised morwongs sendmail.cf file for no > > spam relaying can someone please do so? > > Okay, I fixed the Muttrc as it had started thinking addresses were > at gu.uwa.edu.au :-) Ok, this is weird. > In other news, it now has the GNU fileutils (ls, cp, ... install) in > /usr/local/bin. These are useful to have around. I've also installed > a tonne of other free and much used stuff (gcc 2.8.1, will try for > 2.9.x but I keep running out of hard drive space.) Umm, did you use GCC or CC. CC is far better on morwong. I started on findutils last night but, after bashing the configure script to ignore gcc I had compilation problems and then decided it was late enough and went to bed. Have you set up a cron job to run updatedb? > Dispense is installed, but I'm still trying to figure how the server > can be configured to trust morwong. I also made it do the UCC motd > stuff today. Excellent. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Apr 15 16:07:42 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:53 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from fryers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 04:14:21AM +0800 References: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000415160742.F4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bong > A while ago Simon Fryer tapped: > > A while ago Grahame Bowland tapped: > > > a tonne of other free and much used stuff (gcc 2.8.1, will try for > > 2.9.x but I keep running out of hard drive space.) > > Umm, did you use GCC or CC. CC is far better on morwong. I started on findutils > last night but, after bashing the configure script to ignore gcc I had > compilation problems and then decided it was late enough and went to bed. Just had a look. The fileutils are not in /usr/local/bin/. I decided to start copying them from my box. Have not completed it yet. locate does work but you are a bit short of an update database at the moment. Will fix more problems later. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Apr 15 20:25:07 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:53 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <20000415160742.F4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Simon Fryer at "Apr 15, 2000 04:07:42 pm" Message-ID: <200004151225.UAA15203@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > Just had a look. The fileutils are not in /usr/local/bin/. I decided to start > copying them from my box. Have not completed it yet. locate does work but you > are a bit short of an update database at the moment. Will fix more problems > later. Grr grr wobble footle. Do you guys want to hold it on the maik morwong mods until after we've moved to the new disks, in case any of your efforts are in vain ? Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Apr 15 22:06:26 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:53 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <200004151225.UAA15203@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 08:25:07PM +0800 References: <20000415160742.F4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004151225.UAA15203@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000415220625.A11943@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 08:25:07PM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > Just had a look. The fileutils are not in /usr/local/bin/. I decided to start > > copying them from my box. Have not completed it yet. locate does work but you > > are a bit short of an update database at the moment. Will fix more problems > > later. > > Grr grr wobble footle. > > Do you guys want to hold it on the maik morwong mods until after > we've moved to the new disks, in case any of your efforts are in vain ? Oh, I thought we'd just magic the file system across. Anyway, I dug up a 'top' for DU (the latest version of the one on the freeware CD) and got that working. Also the latest gcc installed. The main reason I'm setting up gcc is because quite a lot of programs are broken and won't compile without it. I haven't installed findutils, but the fileutils like 'du' and 'install' are in /usr/local/bin. They're the GNU versions - the DU ones are in their old places. -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Apr 16 01:33:32 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:53 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <20000415220625.A11943@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 10:06:26PM +0800 References: <20000415160742.F4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004151225.UAA15203@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000415220625.A11943@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000416013332.G4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Grahame Bowland tapped: > On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 08:25:07PM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > > > Grr grr wobble footle. > > > > Do you guys want to hold it on the maik morwong mods until after > > we've moved to the new disks, in case any of your efforts are in vain ? > > Oh, I thought we'd just magic the file system across. I have not put in enought work to worry about. I am trying to make it almost usable before I have to turn starfish off. I will set up sane paths after the disk issues. It took me an evening to work which files where called and in which order to get sane paths on my DU box. > Anyway, I dug up a 'top' for DU (the latest version of the one on the > freeware CD) and got that working. Also the latest gcc installed. Excellent. I have set up locate and updatedb. Updatedb does not traverse /services, /home or anything mounted in /mnt. Currently the only things that are mounted in /mnt is the uwa linux mirror. This is so morwong does not saturate the network links or the NFS server when updatedb is run. Also have moved the committee scripts to morwong so that the adjenda emails will come from morwong. > The main reason I'm setting up gcc is because quite a lot of programs are > broken and won't compile without it. I haven't installed findutils, but > the fileutils like 'du' and 'install' are in /usr/local/bin. They're the > GNU versions - the DU ones are in their old places. The main problem I have found with install scripts is that cc is not identified as an ansi C compiler and hence some K&R syntax throws it. I am sure that there is a deeper problem but I am yet to have sufficient inclination to solve it. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From dunc at rcpt.to Sun Apr 16 19:27:50 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:54 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt1 In-Reply-To: <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from fryers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 04:14:21AM +0800 References: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000416192749.A8163@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Simon Fryer wrote on Sat April 15, at 04:14 +0800: > Umm, did you use GCC or CC. CC is far better on morwong. I started > on findutils last night but, after bashing the configure script to > ignore gcc how much bashing did you do? CC=cc ./configure should work. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Apr 16 20:58:11 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:54 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <20000416013332.G4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from fryers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 01:33:32AM +0800 References: <20000415160742.F4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004151225.UAA15203@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000415220625.A11943@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416013332.G4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000416205811.A23951@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Anyone know how I make morwong answer to the second WAIX IP? I've no idea :) -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Apr 16 22:54:44 2000 From: fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:54 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt1 In-Reply-To: <20000416192749.A8163@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from dunc@rcpt.to on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 07:27:50PM +0800 References: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416192749.A8163@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000416225444.A32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Duncan Sargeant tapped: > Simon Fryer wrote on Sat April 15, at 04:14 +0800: > > Umm, did you use GCC or CC. CC is far better on morwong. I started > > on findutils last night but, after bashing the configure script to > > ignore gcc > > how much bashing did you do? Not very much. Looked for occurences of gcc and then deleted the g as I thought nessesary. > CC=cc ./configure should work. I was hoping that someone would email back with the easy way to do it. I knew there must be an easy way but I just needed to learn. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Apr 16 23:17:42 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:54 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt1 In-Reply-To: <20000416225444.A32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from fryers@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 10:54:44PM +0800 References: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416192749.A8163@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416225444.A32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000416231742.F13555@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Apr 16, Simon Fryer scrawled : > > CC=cc ./configure should work. > > I was hoping that someone would email back with the easy way to do it. I knew > there must be an easy way but I just needed to learn. > ./configure --help usually does the trick ;) /Jp -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere || Don't hate yourself in the morning, japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au || sleep until noon. caffeino ergo sum From fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 17 01:17:18 2000 From: fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:54 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt1 In-Reply-To: <20000416231742.F13555@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Apr 16, 2000 at 11:17:42PM +0800 References: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416192749.A8163@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416225444.A32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416231742.F13555@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000417011718.C32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Jean-Paul Blaquiere tapped: > ./configure --help usually does the trick ;) *usually* be the important word here. I tried --help and after that decided the quick option was to simply make a few simple changes to the configure script. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 17 09:20:29 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:55 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt1 In-Reply-To: <20000417011718.C32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from fryers@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 01:17:18AM +0800 References: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416192749.A8163@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416225444.A32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416231742.F13555@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000417011718.C32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000417092029.Z10614@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 01:17:18AM +0800, Simon Fryer wrote: > *usually* be the important word here. I tried --help and after that decided > the quick option was to simply make a few simple changes to the configure > script. Fine for a quick installation hack, but the configure script is usually automatically generated, these days... Astoundingly enough, the best course of action is usually to read the README file (which will point you at the INSTALL file (which will tell you how to set configure options and flags)) as well as any more specific README files. "configure --help" is _less_ likely than that to give any targetted help. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 17 09:23:14 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:55 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <20000416205811.A23951@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Grahame Bowland at "Apr 16, 2000 08:58:11 pm" Message-ID: <200004170123.JAA19436@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > Anyone know how I make morwong answer to the second WAIX IP? > > I've no idea :) Uhh guys - I'll probably end up completely reinstalling Morwong, so don't sweat stuff like this. I've been reading. There's lots and lots of -stuff- that we want to install and configure & its a hell of a lot easier to do from scratch. There's a nice porting assistant that checks out K&R syntax, 32/64-bit broken code, etc,etc... there's RIS and DMS, which might be a good go - so we can netboot the other Alphas, giving us a spare 2GB disk :) We can do IP aliasing and the like with DU... I just forget how at the moment. BTW - I was thinking that we should stick the terminal servers on the on-board interface & not run IP on it.... only DECnet/LAT. Have the IP addresses bound to the DE500 (100Mb/s). Has the drive been ordered yet? I'd really like to get stuff organised, have a chat to Simon & get stuck into it. Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From dunc at rcpt.to Mon Apr 17 09:27:10 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:55 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <200004170123.JAA19436@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 09:23:14AM +0800 References: <20000416205811.A23951@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004170123.JAA19436@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000417092710.A9805@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> David Manchester wrote on Mon April 17, at 09:23 +0800: > Has the drive been ordered yet? I'd really like to get stuff organised, > have a chat to Simon & get stuck into it. yep, ordered it on Friday. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 17 09:29:49 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:55 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt1 In-Reply-To: <20000417092029.Z10614@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from nick@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 09:20:29AM +0800 References: <20000414022820.A32620@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000414185219.A23925@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000415041421.C4710@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416192749.A8163@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416225444.A32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000416231742.F13555@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000417011718.C32479@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000417092029.Z10614@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000417092948.G13555@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Apr 17, Nick Bannon scrawled : > Astoundingly enough, the best course of action is usually to read the > README file (which will point you at the INSTALL file (which will tell > you how to set configure options and flags)) as well as any more specific > README files. "configure --help" is _less_ likely than that to give any > targetted help. > yes, that too. but the times that I have had to give extra flags to configure, I have read all 3. the configure --help option was easiest because it had all the options concisely contained in 2 pages of info, rather than 8 or so pages of detailed explanation. (i'm talking mutt and gcc). I guess taht unless you know specifically what you are looking for the INSTALL file is the best first place to go. /Jp. -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere || Don't hate yourself in the morning, japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au || sleep until noon. caffeino ergo sum From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 17 10:29:47 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:55 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <200004170123.JAA19436@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 09:23:14AM +0800 References: <20000416205811.A23951@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004170123.JAA19436@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000417102947.A29109@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 09:23:14AM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > Anyone know how I make morwong answer to the second WAIX IP? > > > > I've no idea :) > > Uhh guys - I'll probably end up completely reinstalling Morwong, so don't > sweat stuff like this. > > I've been reading. There's lots and lots of -stuff- that we want to install > and configure & its a hell of a lot easier to do from scratch. Okay. I suggest we pick a day, and try to blitz all of the problems we have at the moment with the machines. We should go to every machine, in logical order, and make sure that users can access and use it. At the same time we can clean install morwong, then recompile and install all the useful programs. We can also make the dumb terms work again. I'll be there - I really want to see the magic DEC stuff working - when's good? -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 17 10:36:36 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:56 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <20000417102947.A29109@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Grahame Bowland at "Apr 17, 2000 10:29:47 am" Message-ID: <200004170236.KAA19832@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > > I've been reading. There's lots and lots of -stuff- that we want to install > > and configure & its a hell of a lot easier to do from scratch. > > Okay. I suggest we pick a day, and try to blitz all of the problems > we have at the moment with the machines. We should go to every > machine, in logical order, and make sure that users can access and > use it. Mmm, not a bad idea, except I'm only available on weekends... who's going to Swancon and who's staying? > At the same time we can clean install morwong, then recompile and > install all the useful programs. We can also make the dumb terms > work again. Yup. I have mapped out a battleplan that I would really like to show you, Grahame... I'll contact you privately. > I'll be there - I really want to see the magic DEC stuff > working - when's good? I'd like to get started this weekend, if we've got the drive. Dunc - if you're listening, did UCS get the Tru64 documentaion set too? There's some reference to manuals that I'd like to read that I found in the DU4.0 Sysadmin stuff. Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 17 10:50:27 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:56 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong - pt2 In-Reply-To: <200004170236.KAA19832@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 10:36:36AM +0800 References: <20000417102947.A29109@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004170236.KAA19832@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000417105027.A10020@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 10:36:36AM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > > I've been reading. There's lots and lots of -stuff- that we want to install > > > and configure & its a hell of a lot easier to do from scratch. > > > > Okay. I suggest we pick a day, and try to blitz all of the problems > > we have at the moment with the machines. We should go to every > > machine, in logical order, and make sure that users can access and > > use it. > > Mmm, not a bad idea, except I'm only available on weekends... > who's going to Swancon and who's staying? I'm going to Swancon, however I can take Saturday or Sunday away from that (I'm sure I'll be sick of the UniSFAns by then) and nip down to Uni. I really want to help and be involved -grin- > > > At the same time we can clean install morwong, then recompile and > > install all the useful programs. We can also make the dumb terms > > work again. > > Yup. I have mapped out a battleplan that I would really like to show > you, Grahame... I'll contact you privately. Great :-) -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 17 12:15:32 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:56 2004 Subject: [tech] transfig on mussel Message-ID: <20000417121532.A11361@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> could someone please isntall transfig on mussel? exporting to eps would be nice /Jp -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere || Don't hate yourself in the morning, japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au || sleep until noon. caffeino ergo sum From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Apr 17 14:13:45 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:56 2004 Subject: [tech] transfig on mussel In-Reply-To: <20000417121532.A11361@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 12:15:32PM +0800 References: <20000417121532.A11361@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000417141345.A11943@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Apr 17, 2000 at 12:15:32PM +0800, Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: > could someone please isntall transfig on mussel? > exporting to eps would be nice Done. -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Apr 18 12:48:02 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:56 2004 Subject: [tech] AdvFS Message-ID: <20000418124802.A2193@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> We definitely want AdvFS on morwong for the new /home. Anyway, we can use AdvFS with the base Tru64 distribution. But the nice GUI and utilities so that we can add new volumes on the fly are seperately licensed. We need a license for "AdvFS Utilites" apparently. Anyone know where we can get one, or should I contact UCS? -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Apr 18 12:49:17 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:56 2004 Subject: [tech] Starfish Message-ID: <20000418124917.B2193@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Starfish is the only box I haven't turned back on. I was worried about the power going with the electricians around, so I've left it off. If anyone needs it before Simon takes it I suppose they should talk to him. -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From dunc at rcpt.to Tue Apr 18 13:25:58 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:57 2004 Subject: [tech] AdvFS In-Reply-To: <20000418124802.A2193@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 12:48:02PM +0800 References: <20000418124802.A2193@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000418132557.A2560@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Grahame Bowland wrote on Tue April 18, at 12:48 +0800: > We definitely want AdvFS on morwong for the new /home. > > Anyway, we can use AdvFS with the base Tru64 distribution. But > the nice GUI and utilities so that we can add new volumes on the > fly are seperately licensed. We need a license for "AdvFS Utilites" > apparently. > > Anyone know where we can get one, or should I contact UCS? lmf list | grep ADV ,dunc ... using morwong for the first time. Mmmm, fast DU. How novel. -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Apr 18 13:30:40 2000 From: fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:57 2004 Subject: [tech] Starfish In-Reply-To: <20000418124917.B2193@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 12:49:17PM +0800 References: <20000418124917.B2193@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000418133039.A1138@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Grahame Bowland tapped: > Starfish is the only box I haven't turned back on. I was worried about > the power going with the electricians around, so I've left it off. > > If anyone needs it before Simon takes it I suppose they should talk to > him. Thanks. I was a bit worried taht you where going to turn it on. It would not have mounted home or services. AFAIK everything done by starfish apart from a but of tftp is done by morwong. The router should be tftp booting stuff if the UCC grand network plan is to be followed (from what I understand of it). I have been meaning to get to UCC since friday to turn starfish off but havn't quite made it there yet... See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh > > -- > Grahame Bowland > > Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ > From fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Apr 18 13:38:22 2000 From: fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:57 2004 Subject: [tech] AdvFS In-Reply-To: <20000418132557.A2560@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from dunc@rcpt.to on Tue, Apr 18, 2000 at 01:25:58PM +0800 References: <20000418124802.A2193@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000418132557.A2560@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000418133821.B1138@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Duncan Sargeant tapped: > Grahame Bowland wrote on Tue April 18, at 12:48 +0800: > > We definitely want AdvFS on morwong for the new /home. > > > > Anyway, we can use AdvFS with the base Tru64 distribution. But > > the nice GUI and utilities so that we can add new volumes on the > > fly are seperately licensed. We need a license for "AdvFS Utilites" > > apparently. > > > > Anyone know where we can get one, or should I contact UCS? > > lmf list | grep ADV I thought the licences we needed where for the LSM (Logical Storage Manager) >From what I could tell the AdvFS utils came prepacked with the system. > ,dunc ... using morwong for the first time. Mmmm, fast DU. How novel. Oh, I thought that morwong was a bit on the slow side.... Must have been that other user, not quite enough memory and a slower CPU! :-) See Ya Simon (used to compiles of small programs where the source is cached, the compiler and linker are cached. The slowest bit is the time for the to be processed and the prompt to return after the compilation.) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From david_luyer at pacific.net.au Tue Apr 18 18:45:58 2000 From: david_luyer at pacific.net.au (David Luyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:57 2004 Subject: [tech] AdvFS In-Reply-To: Message from Simon Fryer of "Tue, 18 Apr 2000 13:38:22 +0800." <20000418133821.B1138@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20000418124802.A2193@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000418132557.A2560@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000418133821.B1138@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <200004181045.UAA21556@typhaon.pacific.net.au> > I thought the licences we needed where for the LSM (Logical Storage Manager) > From what I could tell the AdvFS utils came prepacked with the system. You probably want Polycentre AdvFS rather than LSM. Both are separately licensed. David. -- ---------------------------------------------- David Luyer Senior Network Engineer Pacific Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd Phone: +61 3 9674 7525 Fax: +61 3 9699 8693 Mobile: +61 4 1064 2258, +61 4 1114 2258 http://www.pacific.net.au NASDAQ: PCNTF << fast 'n easy >> ---------------------------------------------- From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 19 10:07:02 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:57 2004 Subject: [tech] uptimes Message-ID: <20000419100702.A1748@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> anyone know anything about the spontaneous reboot of mermaid and mussel at 02:30 this morning? /Jp. -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere || Don't hate yourself in the morning, japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au || sleep until noon. caffeino ergo sum From andrew at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 19 13:38:07 2000 From: andrew at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Williams) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:57 2004 Subject: [tech] uptimes In-Reply-To: <20000419100702.A1748@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <200004190538.NAA27276@linseed.longtable.org> On Wed, 19 Apr 2000 10:07:02 +0800, Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: >anyone know anything about the spontaneous reboot of mermaid and mussel at 02:30 >this morning? Mooneye went down at the same time, and didn't come back up again until Grahame came in and saw a kernel panic error around lunchtime today, and rebooted. Must have been a power spike takign out the whole machine room, but the hardware doesn't sound too reliable... Andrew From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 19 13:44:46 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:58 2004 Subject: [tech] uptimes In-Reply-To: <20000419100702.A1748@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 10:07:02AM +0800 References: <20000419100702.A1748@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000419134445.B649@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 10:07:02AM +0800, Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: > anyone know anything about the spontaneous reboot of mermaid and mussel at 02:30 > this morning? Looks like everything went down (except enki.rcpt.to which is on a small UPS ::-) ). So much for avoiding unscheduled power cycling. Not everything came back up OK - notably mooneye had a CRC error of some kind during LILO, and mermaid's apache didn't come back up. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From dichro-mail-2a7b12d at rcpt.to Wed Apr 19 13:46:50 2000 From: dichro-mail-2a7b12d at rcpt.to (Mikolaj J. Habryn) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:58 2004 Subject: [tech] uptimes In-Reply-To: Nick Bannon's message of "Wed, 19 Apr 2000 13:44:46 +0800" References: <20000419100702.A1748@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000419134445.B649@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: >>>>> "NB" == Nick Bannon writes: NB> Looks like everything went down (except enki.rcpt.to which is NB> on a small UPS ::-) ). So much for avoiding unscheduled power NB> cycling. *smirk* m. From fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 19 15:02:16 2000 From: fryers at morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:58 2004 Subject: [tech] uptimes In-Reply-To: ; from dichro-mail-2a7b12d@rcpt.to on Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 03:46:50PM +1000 References: <20000419100702.A1748@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000419134445.B649@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000419150216.A6912@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Mikolaj J. Habryn tapped: > >>>>> "NB" == Nick Bannon writes: > > NB> Looks like everything went down (except enki.rcpt.to which is > NB> on a small UPS ::-) ). So much for avoiding unscheduled power > NB> cycling. > > *smirk* *grin* but it was not up until about 2255 last night when I moved it from inside starfish's guts. It is also on it's own extension cable. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Apr 20 17:47:11 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:58 2004 Subject: [tech] uptimes In-Reply-To: <20000419100702.A1748@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Wed, Apr 19, 2000 at 10:07:02AM +0800 References: <20000419100702.A1748@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000420174711.A393@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Random UDS people just flicked the power to extension lead and the racks just got power cycled again. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 21 11:47:30 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:58 2004 Subject: [tech] We -ain't- the dot in .com Message-ID: <200004210347.LAA01624@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48004-2000Apr19.html I'd have thought that Sun would have donated the fscking hardware just so they could keep the .com thing up. Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Apr 25 23:37:18 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:59 2004 Subject: [tech] Morwong/Tru64 Layered products Message-ID: <200004251537.XAA07091@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Hiya Dunc - Could we get a look at the Tru64 CDs again... we want the DECnet stuff from the Layered products CD - I don't think I made a copy of that... is there one in there? Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From dunc at rcpt.to Wed Apr 26 10:03:24 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:59 2004 Subject: [tech] Morwong/Tru64 Layered products In-Reply-To: <200004251537.XAA07091@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 11:37:18PM +0800 References: <200004251537.XAA07091@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000426100324.C7300@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> David Manchester wrote on Tue April 25, at 23:37 +0800: > Hiya Dunc - > Could we get a look at the Tru64 CDs again... we want the DECnet stuff > from the Layered products CD - I don't think I made a copy of that... > is there one in there? Unless it goes by another name, nope. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 26 10:07:49 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:59 2004 Subject: [tech] Morwong/Tru64 Layered products In-Reply-To: <20000426100324.C7300@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Duncan Sargeant at "Apr 26, 2000 10:03:24 am" Message-ID: <200004260207.KAA08003@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > David Manchester wrote on Tue April 25, at 23:37 +0800: > > Hiya Dunc - > > Could we get a look at the Tru64 CDs again... we want the DECnet stuff > > from the Layered products CD - I don't think I made a copy of that... > > is there one in there? > > Unless it goes by another name, nope. Arse. I thought I copied everything. Bugger. A'ight. I guess I'll attempt installing some of that stuff from the 4.0d CDs. *sigh* Maybe we'll end up going back to 4.0D, if this doesn't work. Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 26 16:55:56 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:59 2004 Subject: [tech] Morwong/Tru64 Layered products In-Reply-To: <200004260207.KAA08003@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 10:07:49AM +0800 References: <20000426100324.C7300@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004260207.KAA08003@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000426165556.A9923@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 10:07:49AM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > David Manchester wrote on Tue April 25, at 23:37 +0800: > > > Hiya Dunc - > > > Could we get a look at the Tru64 CDs again... we want the DECnet stuff > > > from the Layered products CD - I don't think I made a copy of that... > > > is there one in there? > > > > Unless it goes by another name, nope. > > Arse. > I thought I copied everything. > Bugger. > > A'ight. I guess I'll attempt installing some of that stuff from the 4.0d > CDs. > > *sigh* Maybe we'll end up going back to 4.0D, if this doesn't work. Can we finalise this sometime? It's even more ugly with 5 and nothing will compile. I don't want to waste hours compiling and installing if it'll all get wiped. BTW, thanks to all of those that have helped with setting morwong up. Cheers :-) -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Apr 26 17:21:16 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:59 2004 Subject: [tech] Morwong/Tru64 Layered products In-Reply-To: <20000426165556.A9923@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Grahame Bowland at "Apr 26, 2000 04:55:56 pm" Message-ID: <200004260921.RAA09174@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Mwhahaha. Everything I've compiled worked fine. *shrug* Where's that 9GB disk? Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Apr 27 00:12:51 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:00 2004 Subject: [tech] Morwong/Tru64 Layered products In-Reply-To: <200004260921.RAA09174@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 05:21:16PM +0800 References: <20000426165556.A9923@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004260921.RAA09174@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000427001251.A10950@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 05:21:16PM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > Mwhahaha. Everything I've compiled worked fine. *shrug* > Where's that 9GB disk? UCS have invoiced the Guild and the Guild claim to have paid it for us. Will go to UCS and find out tommorow. BTW, I banked $750 today :-) Mark has his $300. -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From dunc at rcpt.to Thu Apr 27 00:21:19 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:00 2004 Subject: [tech] Morwong/Tru64 Layered products In-Reply-To: <20000427001251.A10950@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 12:12:51AM +0800 References: <20000426165556.A9923@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004260921.RAA09174@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000427001251.A10950@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000427002119.B10618@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Grahame Bowland wrote on Thu April 27, at 00:12 +0800: > On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 05:21:16PM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > Mwhahaha. Everything I've compiled worked fine. *shrug* > > Where's that 9GB disk? > > UCS have invoiced the Guild and the Guild claim to have paid it for > us. That sounds about right, John is on holiday at the moment and probably fixed that up when UCS ordered the disk and before he went on leave. > Will go to UCS and find out tommorow. There's no need, I'll let you guys know the moment it arrives. Comdek don't have the mice in stock which is probably delaying the order. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Apr 27 09:57:41 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:00 2004 Subject: [tech] Morwong/Tru64 Layered products In-Reply-To: <20000427001251.A10950@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Grahame Bowland at "Apr 27, 2000 00:12:51 am" Message-ID: <200004270157.JAA10788@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 05:21:16PM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > Mwhahaha. Everything I've compiled worked fine. *shrug* > > Where's that 9GB disk? > > UCS have invoiced the Guild and the Guild claim to have paid it for > us. Will go to UCS and find out tommorow. > > BTW, I banked $750 today :-) Mark has his $300. Cool :) Tah, /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Apr 27 16:13:43 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:00 2004 Subject: [tech] mermaid bounced Message-ID: <20000427161343.A301@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Anyone know why mermaid just rebooted? Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Apr 27 16:20:06 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:00 2004 Subject: [tech] mermaid bounced In-Reply-To: <20000427161343.A301@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from nick@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 04:13:43PM +0800 References: <20000427161343.A301@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000427162006.B394@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Nick Bannon tapped: > Anyone know why mermaid just rebooted? Looked like wheelie intervention. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 28 01:36:51 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:00 2004 Subject: [tech] sendmail / morwong Message-ID: <20000428013651.B14890@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing Could someone who is familar with sendmail please make morwong do mail correctly. Thanks. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From dichro-mail-fbb95c6b at rcpt.to Fri Apr 28 02:19:16 2000 From: dichro-mail-fbb95c6b at rcpt.to (Mikolaj J. Habryn) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:01 2004 Subject: [tech] sendmail / morwong In-Reply-To: Simon Fryer's message of "Fri, 28 Apr 2000 01:36:51 +0800" References: <20000428013651.B14890@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: >>>>> "SF" == Simon Fryer writes: SF> Bing Could someone who is familar with sendmail please make SF> morwong do mail correctly. Alternatively, write a critical essay on the above sentence, exploring in detail the juxtaposition of the concepts of 'sendmail' and 'correctness'. m. From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 28 02:55:06 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:01 2004 Subject: [tech] too little sleep Message-ID: <20000428025506.A14995@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing centuri now has ssh and findutils. It will also have less when I make less. :-) The update path for locate doesn not include /home, /services or /mnt as these are NFS file systems and running updatedb on them would suck. Morwong has the nessesary additions to it's crontabs to do the committee's bidding and email out notices for the committee meetings. Morwong also has findutils. The updatedb paths for locate do not include /home, /services, /linux and /mnt. Again for similar reasons, NFSness and removeable media. Enjoy. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh ----- End forwarded message ----- From yakk at yakk.net.au Fri Apr 28 16:25:34 2000 From: yakk at yakk.net.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:01 2004 Subject: [tech] too little sleep In-Reply-To: <20000428025506.A14995@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from fryers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 02:55:06AM +0800 References: <20000428025506.A14995@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000428162534.A23748@yakk.net.au> On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 02:55:06AM +0800, Simon Fryer wrote: > Bing > > centuri now has ssh and findutils. It will also have less when I make less. :-) How do you compile findutils on DU? I didn't manage on morwong. Ian -- Ian McKellar | Email: yakk(a)yakk.net | Web: http://www.yakk.net/ Fax: +61 (8) 9265 0821 / +0 (775) 205 0307 | Home: +61 (8) 9389 9152 If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. From dunc at rcpt.to Fri Apr 28 12:50:52 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:01 2004 Subject: [tech] hard drive and mice Message-ID: <20000428125051.A16453@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Hi, The hard drive and mice have arrived. Do we want to install the drive tonight? John will be back on Monday and so UCS will probably invoice UCC then. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 28 12:53:35 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:01 2004 Subject: [tech] hard drive and mice In-Reply-To: <20000428125051.A16453@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Duncan Sargeant at "Apr 28, 2000 12:50:52 pm" Message-ID: <200004280453.MAA03375@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> I'm out. Waz and I are going out on the piss. -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 28 12:58:25 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:02 2004 Subject: [tech] too little sleep In-Reply-To: <20000428162534.A23748@yakk.net.au>; from yakk@yakk.net.au on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 04:25:34PM +0800 References: <20000428025506.A14995@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000428162534.A23748@yakk.net.au> Message-ID: <20000428125824.A16491@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Ian McKellar tapped: > > centuri now has ssh and findutils. It will also have less when I make less. :-) > > How do you compile findutils on DU? I didn't manage on morwong. Apart from the standard configure and make it bombs out on fnmatch.c. In In the lib directory there is a file fnmatch.h which contains the magic definitions that you need. Unfortunatly they are wrapped in an ifdef. Delete the two lines of the ifdef lines the definitions are used by the pre processor and all is sweet. The ifdef is something magic about posix. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 28 15:03:10 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:02 2004 Subject: [tech] mermaid bounced In-Reply-To: <20000427162006.B394@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from fryers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 04:20:06PM +0800 References: <20000427161343.A301@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000427162006.B394@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000428150310.A16910@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 04:20:06PM +0800, Simon Fryer wrote: > Bing > > > A while ago Nick Bannon tapped: > > > Anyone know why mermaid just rebooted? > > Looked like wheelie intervention. Me. It had stopped taking new logins remotely - all of the services had been killed - and it wouldn't let me log in on the console as root. PAM had stopped working at all. So I booted the box. Forgot to send an email about it, sorry. -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 28 15:05:27 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:02 2004 Subject: [tech] hard drive and mice In-Reply-To: <20000428125051.A16453@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from dunc@rcpt.to on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 12:50:52PM +0800 References: <20000428125051.A16453@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000428150527.B16910@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 12:50:52PM +0800, Duncan Sargeant wrote: > Hi, > > The hard drive and mice have arrived. Do we want to install the drive > tonight? John will be back on Monday and so UCS will probably invoice > UCC then. All is good in the bill-paying department, guild-finance have an invoice and will pay soon :-) -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 28 15:10:28 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:02 2004 Subject: [tech] mermaid bounced In-Reply-To: <20000428150310.A16910@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Grahame Bowland at "Apr 28, 2000 03:03:10 pm" Message-ID: <200004280710.PAA03582@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 04:20:06PM +0800, Simon Fryer wrote: > > Bing > > > > > A while ago Nick Bannon tapped: > > > > > Anyone know why mermaid just rebooted? > > > > Looked like wheelie intervention. > > Me. It had stopped taking new logins remotely - all of the services had been > killed - and it wouldn't let me log in on the console as root. PAM had stopped > working at all. So I booted the box. > > Forgot to send an email about it, sorry. Why is mermaid being grotty of late... this is a new thing... but happened more than once.. ? Cheers /dave From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 28 15:24:13 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:02 2004 Subject: [tech] mermaid bounced In-Reply-To: <200004280710.PAA03582@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 03:10:28PM +0800 References: <20000428150310.A16910@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004280710.PAA03582@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000428152413.A17103@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 03:10:28PM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > Why is mermaid being grotty of late... this is a new thing... but happened > more than once.. ? I don't know - I think Debian is getting broken lately (I've had trouble with some package scripts being _braindead_) and if people are upgrading packages on mermaid that might explain it. Personally I haven't upgraded it at all. -- Grahame Bowland Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From dunc at rcpt.to Fri Apr 28 15:28:47 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:02 2004 Subject: [tech] mermaid bounced In-Reply-To: <20000428152413.A17103@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 03:24:13PM +0800 References: <20000428150310.A16910@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200004280710.PAA03582@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000428152413.A17103@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000428152847.C16840@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Grahame Bowland wrote on Fri April 28, at 15:24 +0800: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 03:10:28PM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > > > Why is mermaid being grotty of late... this is a new thing... but happened > > more than once.. ? > > I don't know - I think Debian is getting broken lately (I've had trouble > with some package scripts being _braindead_) and if people are upgrading > packages on mermaid that might explain it. > > Personally I haven't upgraded it at all. Most likely explanation would be that someone upgraded to glibc 2.1. Last time I did that, the debian script was broken and killed all the server processes. It said it was going to restart them but never did. I managed to have the foresight to restart them myself whilst my ssh connection was still alive and there were no problems. ho hum. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From devenish at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Apr 28 17:45:03 2000 From: devenish at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Devenish) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:03 2004 Subject: [tech] /var/log/messages Message-ID: <20000428174503.A3974@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Hi all, Where would be a good place for me too look to help decode/understand the following message: Apr 28 17:19:04 some-linux-box kernel: eth1: Transmit timed out: status 0050 0070 at 2815095/2815107 command 000c0000. (And yes, I've looked between the cushions and under the couch so there's no need to suggest those again.) -- _ _______________________________________________________ _ / ) | | ( \ / / | Regards, | \ \ _( (_ | _ James Devenish _ | _) )_ (((\ \> |/ ) ( \| \ / \ _/ \_ / / / | | \ \ / / | | \ \ / / |_______________________________________________________| \ \ From davidb at rcpt.to Fri Apr 28 19:34:58 2000 From: davidb at rcpt.to (David Basden) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:20:03 2004 Subject: [tech] /var/log/messages In-Reply-To: <20000428174503.A3974@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from devenish@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 05:45:03PM +0800 References: <20000428174503.A3974@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000428213457.M32353@discordia.rcpt.to> On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 05:45:03PM +0800, James Devenish wrote: > Hi all, > > Where would be a good place for me too look to help decode/understand the following message: > Apr 28 17:19:04 some-linux-box kernel: eth1: Transmit timed out: status 0050 0070 at 2815095/2815107 command 000c0000. > > (And yes, I've looked between the cushions and under the couch so there's no need to suggest those again.) Are you running an Intel EtherExpress Pro? .. D