From r.alvarezss at mlcp.com Fri Aug 6 15:05:25 2004 From: r.alvarezss at mlcp.com (Regina Alvarez) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:08 2004 Subject: [tech] I just read your email Message-ID: Hello, Ra[t]es dropped this week ... Jump on it! Need more of these? $$$$ JustR-efin-ance your house/prop and you can get it Use this for the site: http://knewlaziness.com You must visit the link in 24 hrs to confirm your eligibility. Sincerely, Jean Landis Representative Harrington Holdings Co. Surgeons, nurses and technicians applauded in the operating room after Carl and Clarence Aguirre were surgically separated at 10:32 p.m. Wednesday, said Steve Osborne, a spokesman for the Children's Hospital at Montefiore Medical Center.The operation was completed around 3:15 a.m. Thursday, more than 17 hours after it began, Osborne said. 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From coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Aug 10 14:01:43 2004 From: coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Cox) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:09 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] Minutes 10/08, graphics cards In-Reply-To: <20040810055550.GA20524@blackham.com.au> References: <20040810055550.GA20524@blackham.com.au> Message-ID: > - Buy graphics cards: > Probably GeForce 5200 ... ~$90? > discuss on tech. We've got 3 choices: Geforce 4MX, around $70 Advantage: half height card Disadvantage: sucks Radeon 9200SE, also around $70 Advantage: half height card, drivers are actually pretty good for ATi Disadvantage: Sucks at OpenGL in particular Geforce FX5200, around $90 Advantage: pretty good at OpenGL (by far the most powerful) Disadvantage: requires putting thinterms into proper ATX cases Advantage: can eBay off the "cool little cases A+++++++++!!!!1" My vote is for the FX5200s. [RME]~Coxy From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Aug 11 13:34:16 2004 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:09 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] Minutes 10/08, graphics cards In-Reply-To: References: <20040810055550.GA20524@blackham.com.au> Message-ID: <20040811053416.GP391946@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 02:01:43PM +0800, James Cox wrote: > > - Buy graphics cards for thinterms Because they're still unstable? or because they're old and slow and have no dedicated VRAM? > We've got 3 choices: > > Geforce 4MX, around $70 > Advantage: half height card > Disadvantage: sucks About 4x faster than the current onboard GeForce2 MX? > Radeon 9200SE, also around $70 > Advantage: half height card, drivers are actually pretty good for ATi Free drivers. > Disadvantage: Sucks at OpenGL in particular About 4x faster than the current onboard GeForce2 MX? > Geforce FX5200, around $90 > Advantage: pretty good at OpenGL (by far the most powerful) > Disadvantage: requires putting thinterms into proper ATX cases > Advantage: can eBay off the "cool little cases A+++++++++!!!!1" About 6x faster than the current onboard GeForce2 MX? If we're swapping cases and ebay'ing anyway, what would it cost to buy new low-end machines, selling the old ones as working systems? Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick-sig@rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Aug 11 13:40:56 2004 From: coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Cox) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:09 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] Minutes 10/08, graphics cards In-Reply-To: <20040811053416.GP391946@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20040810055550.GA20524@blackham.com.au> <20040811053416.GP391946@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Nick Bannon wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 02:01:43PM +0800, James Cox wrote: > > > - Buy graphics cards for thinterms > > Because they're still unstable? or because they're old and slow and > have no dedicated VRAM? Not really old (they do have quite good CPUs, after all) but they are slow with no dedicatede VRAM, yeah. > > > We've got 3 choices: > > > > Geforce 4MX, around $70 > > Advantage: half height card > > Disadvantage: sucks > > About 4x faster than the current onboard GeForce2 MX? > > > Radeon 9200SE, also around $70 > > Advantage: half height card, drivers are actually pretty good for ATi > Free drivers. > > Disadvantage: Sucks at OpenGL in particular > > About 4x faster than the current onboard GeForce2 MX? > > > Geforce FX5200, around $90 > > Advantage: pretty good at OpenGL (by far the most powerful) > > Disadvantage: requires putting thinterms into proper ATX cases > > Advantage: can eBay off the "cool little cases A+++++++++!!!!1" > > About 6x faster than the current onboard GeForce2 MX? Hard to tell exact performance increases, since nobody ever benchmarks crappy onboard graphics. Andrew is going to bring in his FX5200 and we'll try it out with the latest NVidia drivers, though > > If we're swapping cases and ebay'ing anyway, what would it cost to buy > new low-end machines, selling the old ones as working systems? I don't think it'd be worth it, really. The CPU is still good, 2.6 is quite stable (if slow at OpenGL), and the cases are the most expensive component anyway. Prices for complete systems on eBay are quite low, anyway. ~Coxy From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Aug 11 14:16:32 2004 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] Minutes 10/08, graphics cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, James Cox wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Nick Bannon wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 02:01:43PM +0800, James Cox wrote: > > > Geforce FX5200, around $90 > > > Advantage: pretty good at OpenGL (by far the most powerful) > > > Disadvantage: requires putting thinterms into proper ATX cases > > > Advantage: can eBay off the "cool little cases A+++++++++!!!!1" > > > > About 6x faster than the current onboard GeForce2 MX? > > Hard to tell exact performance increases, since nobody ever benchmarks > crappy onboard graphics. Andrew is going to bring in his FX5200 and we'll > try it out with the latest NVidia drivers, though You can get half-height 5200s, although I'm unsure of their availability in Australia. See http://www.directron.com/lowfx5200.html for example. $US57 = $AU80. Anyway, my vote is now for a half-height 5200, since we know they exist. http://www.jaton.com.au/main/NVIDIAAGP.htm has some half-height cards, and one of their distributors at http://www.jaton.com.au/dealers/wabody.htm is Efficient Chips :-) -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Aug 13 10:57:45 2004 From: coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Cox) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] Minutes 10/08, graphics cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've just tested out a "full height" FX5200 (the normal card isn't as tall as the spec allows) in a thinterm and they fit just fine, so we won't need to do pay more for a low profile card or retrofit the mobos into normal ATX cases after all. [RME]~Coxy On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, James Andrewartha wrote: > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, James Cox wrote: > > > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004, Nick Bannon wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Aug 10, 2004 at 02:01:43PM +0800, James Cox wrote: > > > > Geforce FX5200, around $90 > > > > Advantage: pretty good at OpenGL (by far the most powerful) > > > > Disadvantage: requires putting thinterms into proper ATX cases > > > > Advantage: can eBay off the "cool little cases A+++++++++!!!!1" > > > > > > About 6x faster than the current onboard GeForce2 MX? > > > > Hard to tell exact performance increases, since nobody ever benchmarks > > crappy onboard graphics. Andrew is going to bring in his FX5200 and we'll > > try it out with the latest NVidia drivers, though > > You can get half-height 5200s, although I'm unsure of their availability > in Australia. See http://www.directron.com/lowfx5200.html for > example. $US57 = $AU80. Anyway, my vote is now for a half-height 5200, > since we know they exist. > > http://www.jaton.com.au/main/NVIDIAAGP.htm has some half-height cards, and > one of their distributors at http://www.jaton.com.au/dealers/wabody.htm is > Efficient Chips :-) > > -- > # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ > # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | > [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | > [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / > From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Aug 13 19:45:04 2004 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] Minutes 10/08, graphics cards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, James Cox wrote: > I've just tested out a "full height" FX5200 (the normal card isn't as tall > as the spec allows) in a thinterm and they fit just fine, so we won't need > to do pay more for a low profile card or retrofit the mobos into normal > ATX cases after all. Yeah, it fits with about 1mm to spare, but unfortunately the VGA connector is partly blocked by the case. This could be fixed by a dremel, or we could get cards that have the VGA connector at the bottom. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Aug 13 20:15:16 2004 From: coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Cox) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] Minutes 10/08, graphics cards In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is that with the metal bezel on or off? I noticed the bottom of the case was blocking against the bezel, preventing the card from going all the way in. [RME]~Coxy On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, James Andrewartha wrote: > On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, James Cox wrote: > > > I've just tested out a "full height" FX5200 (the normal card isn't as tall > > as the spec allows) in a thinterm and they fit just fine, so we won't need > > to do pay more for a low profile card or retrofit the mobos into normal > > ATX cases after all. > > Yeah, it fits with about 1mm to spare, but unfortunately the VGA connector > is partly blocked by the case. This could be fixed by a dremel, or we > could get cards that have the VGA connector at the bottom. > > -- > # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ > # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | > [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | > [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / > From alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Aug 14 11:16:27 2004 From: alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alastair Irvine) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:10 2004 Subject: [tech] UCC site viewing issues in Safari Message-ID: <20040814031627.GA36602@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Hi, all. Just in case people haven't noticed already, some of the character styles on the UCC website don't show up properly in Safari 1.2.3 (v125.9). (On Mac OS X v10.3.5) .uccBanner .highlight .pageHeading A -- ... "The sublime and the ridiculous are often so nearly related that it is difficult to class them separately." -- Tom Paine _____________________________________________________________________ | | | -=*Alastair Irvine*=- | | C-monkey/wanderer/board&RPGer/net-nut alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au | |_____________________________________________________________________| From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Aug 15 21:07:08 2004 From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:11 2004 Subject: [tech] DVD Burnage Message-ID: Hi all, So the DVD burner that is ex-Cybium and now in Cobbler still doesn't work. James has fiddled with Nero upgrades and the like, to no avail. Currently, the only burning facilities are in the eMac. Thus - would anyone have serious issues if I removed it and borrowed it for the evening on Monday night? I need to burn a set of DVDs and it would be much easier to shift a drive than an entire system. If I don't hear back within the next ~15 hours, I'll check with any wheels in the clubroom, and assume you're all cool with that otherwise. Cheers, David Adam zanchey@ From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Aug 16 18:12:36 2004 From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:11 2004 Subject: [tech] DVD Burnage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm going to assume that the continued silence from everyone indicates assent. Thus - I expect it to be back in the machine early Tuesday. If anyone desperately needs to burn a DVD (somehow) using a non-working machine, please feel free to call me. David Adam zanchey@ 0409 506 857 ---- On Sun, 15 Aug 2004, David Adam wrote: > Hi all, > > So the DVD burner that is ex-Cybium and now in Cobbler still doesn't work. > James has fiddled with Nero upgrades and the like, to no avail. Currently, > the only burning facilities are in the eMac. > > Thus - would anyone have serious issues if I removed it and borrowed it > for the evening on Monday night? I need to burn a set of DVDs and it would > be much easier to shift a drive than an entire system. > > If I don't hear back within the next ~15 hours, I'll check with any wheels > in the clubroom, and assume you're all cool with that otherwise. > > Cheers, > > David Adam > zanchey@ > From matt at ucc.asn.au Tue Aug 17 13:59:04 2004 From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:11 2004 Subject: [tech] New userbox/fileserver Message-ID: <20040817055903.GG150098@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Hi all. Looking at some specs and prices for a new userbox/fileserver, here're some prices from AusPC Market (incl freight): 1 x Tyan Tiger K8W AMD Skt940 Dual Opteron board, AMD 8151, 4x DDR333 Reg, 5x PCI, GigaLAN, AGP8x, Firewire, SATA/RAID MB-TYS2875ANRF $440.00 2 x AMD Opteron 242 1.6GHz 64-Bit CPU, 1mb L2 w/AMD fan/heatsink CP-AMOP242 $412.50 4 x Western Digital Caviar 200Gb Serial ATA drive, 8mb cache, 7200RPM HD-WE2000JD $236.50 - these in a RAID-1-0 configuration style configuration, so we have 400GB space total. PC-3200 2048MB Corsair TwinX 184-pin DDR SDRAM (2x1024MB sticks) Registered ECC 400mhz w/aluminium heatspreader RA-DDTWINX2048RE3200 $1039.50 Total inc GST = $3250.50 Of course we'll need a case/powersupply/ATA boot disk etc, so add another ~$800 or so to that. So, if anyone's got comments on what they think we should be getting, say so. Matt From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Aug 17 16:06:36 2004 From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:11 2004 Subject: [tech] DVD Burnage (long message!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, here's the deal. As reported in the committee minutes of today, the DVD burner itself works fine, burning at 2x quite happily on my home machines. It's also had the firmware upgraded to the latest version (which means the drive is no longer region-free, but this is no big deal, see below). However, I slapped the drive back in Mussel and it's still not being seen by Nero. The actual drive is readable from (AFAIK) but doesn't show up either in Nero or the InfoTool. I switched it from the Promise controller to the onboard secondary channel, to no avail. Similar results from changing the IDE interface cable (the replacement is still in there I believe). I haven't tried it in Debian (need wheel access) but have no reason to believe it would work any better there than yesterday. Finally, it's not the influence of the other drive - we removed that from the IDE chain with no effect. Coxy has suggested putting the damn thing in Arctic and being done with it, and I see no reason as to why this won't work, but I would rather not do this myself - although it would be nice to watch, having had very little experience with newer Macs. Suggestions as to why else the DVD doesn't work in Cobbler would be nice. Testing under CloneCD (installer on C:\Documents and Settings\zanchey\Desktop) and under Linux by wheel members would also be nice. Failing that, let's move the damn thing to Arctic. It's a better machine for burning anyway (more space etc). Cheers, David Adam zanchey@ PS - re the whole region-free thing, I don't believe that firmware solutions are necessary either under Linux or Windows nowadays. If anyone absolutely burns to watch regioned DVDs, one of the wheelers can install Region+CSS-Free or whatever they're calling it these days. From davyd at bridgewayconsulting.com.au Tue Aug 17 18:05:55 2004 From: davyd at bridgewayconsulting.com.au (Davyd Madeley) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:12 2004 Subject: [tech] DVD Burnage (long message!) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1092737155.6255.15.camel@pingu> On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 16:06 +0800, David Adam wrote: > I haven't tried it in Debian (need wheel access) but have no reason to > believe it would work any better there than yesterday. Last time I checked, the root password on cybium/cobbler ********* ***************. That said, I haven't tried to log in for a while. --d -- Davyd Madeley Systems Engineer, Bridgeway Consulting M: 0422 590 883 F: (08) 9490 1418 http://www.bridgewayconsulting.com.au/ From davyd at madeley.id.au Tue Aug 17 18:21:43 2004 From: davyd at madeley.id.au (Davyd Madeley) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:12 2004 Subject: [tech] New userbox/fileserver In-Reply-To: <20040817055903.GG150098@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20040817055903.GG150098@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <1092738104.6255.25.camel@pingu> Quickly looking at TechPac... On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 13:59 +0800, Matt Johnston wrote: > 1 x Tyan Tiger K8W AMD Skt940 Dual Opteron board, AMD 8151, 4x DDR333 Reg, > 5x PCI, GigaLAN, AGP8x, Firewire, SATA/RAID MB-TYS2875ANRF TechPac don't carry Tyan motherboards it seems. > 2 x AMD Opteron 242 1.6GHz $345.40 ea > 4 x Western Digital Caviar 200Gb Serial ATA drive, 8mb cache, 7200RPM > HD-WE2000JD does anyone seriously use Western Digital? Like usual, I recommend Seagate. Kingston RAM, 2gig DIMMs $1,226.29 ea (DDR2 PC4200) --d -- http://davyd.ucc.asn.au/ PGP Fingerprint 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 227 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/tech/attachments/20040817/df7b2492/attachment.pgp From coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Aug 17 19:28:18 2004 From: coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Cox) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:12 2004 Subject: [tech] New userbox/fileserver In-Reply-To: <1092738104.6255.25.camel@pingu> References: <20040817055903.GG150098@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <1092738104.6255.25.camel@pingu> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Davyd Madeley wrote: > Quickly looking at TechPac... > > 2 x AMD Opteron 242 1.6GHz > > $345.40 ea Now *that* is one awesome price. > > Kingston RAM, 2gig DIMMs $1,226.29 ea (DDR2 PC4200) Now that's not so awesome. It costs more (is it even registered RAM?) will be slower and isn't even supported for our model of Opteron. [RME]~Coxy From davyd at madeley.id.au Tue Aug 17 19:37:36 2004 From: davyd at madeley.id.au (Davyd Madeley) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:13 2004 Subject: [tech] New userbox/fileserver In-Reply-To: References: <20040817055903.GG150098@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <1092738104.6255.25.camel@pingu> Message-ID: <1092742656.6255.28.camel@pingu> On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 19:28 +0800, James Cox wrote: > > > > Kingston RAM, 2gig DIMMs $1,226.29 ea (DDR2 PC4200) > > Now that's not so awesome. It costs more (is it even registered RAM?) will > be slower and isn't even supported for our model of Opteron. a 2 gig DIMM, yes it is registered and ECC. It is PC4200, the fastest RAM currently on the market. It also has a lifetime warranty. Tell me what you think it should cost? -- http://davyd.ucc.asn.au/ PGP Fingerprint 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 227 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/tech/attachments/20040817/ef2ddb7c/attachment.pgp From coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Aug 17 19:41:07 2004 From: coxy at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Cox) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:13 2004 Subject: [tech] New userbox/fileserver In-Reply-To: <1092742656.6255.28.camel@pingu> References: <20040817055903.GG150098@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <1092742656.6255.28.camel@pingu> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 19:28 +0800, James Cox wrote: > > > > > > Kingston RAM, 2gig DIMMs $1,226.29 ea (DDR2 PC4200) > > > > Now that's not so awesome. It costs more (is it even registered RAM?) will > > be slower and isn't even supported for our model of Opteron. > > a 2 gig DIMM, yes it is registered and ECC. It is PC4200, the fastest > RAM currently on the market. It also has a lifetime warranty. Tell me > what you think it should cost? I'm sure the price is reasonable, it's just that the 242 will run it at a slower speed and we won't get the slight boost from dual-channel. Thus, two sticks of 1 GB each are a better deal overall. From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Aug 17 20:30:27 2004 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:14 2004 Subject: [tech] New userbox/fileserver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, James Cox wrote: > On Tue, 17 Aug 2004, Davyd Madeley wrote: > > On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 19:28 +0800, James Cox wrote: > > > > Kingston RAM, 2gig DIMMs $1,226.29 ea (DDR2 PC4200) --------------------------------------------------^ > > > Now that's not so awesome. It costs more (is it even registered RAM?) will > > > be slower and isn't even supported for our model of Opteron. > > > > a 2 gig DIMM, yes it is registered and ECC. It is PC4200, the fastest > > RAM currently on the market. It also has a lifetime warranty. Tell me > > what you think it should cost? > > I'm sure the price is reasonable, it's just that the 242 will run it at a > slower speed and we won't get the slight boost from dual-channel. Thus, > two sticks of 1 GB each are a better deal overall. Also, DDR2 is not supported by the Opteron, it takes normal DDR. DDR2 is only used by Intel 9[12]5 chipsets at the moment (and video cards). Also, I have access to some wholesalers at work, I'll hunt up some prices tomorrow. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From davidb-2985 at rcpt.to Tue Aug 17 22:54:35 2004 From: davidb-2985 at rcpt.to (David Basden) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:14 2004 Subject: [tech] DVD Burnage (long message!) In-Reply-To: <1092737155.6255.15.camel@pingu> References: <1092737155.6255.15.camel@pingu> Message-ID: <20040817145435.GB12086@shikita.rcpt.to> On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 06:05:55PM +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > On Tue, 2004-08-17 at 16:06 +0800, David Adam wrote: > > > I haven't tried it in Debian (need wheel access) but have no reason to > > believe it would work any better there than yesterday. > > Last time I checked, the root password on cybium/cobbler was ... Okay, I know the password isn't meant to be very secret, or kept from members. But for smegs sake, did you have to post it to a public list that's archived, and hit by search engines? There's not-very-secure, and there's advertising the bloody thing. http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/tech/2004-August/000174.html David From bernard at blackham.com.au Wed Aug 18 17:53:26 2004 From: bernard at blackham.com.au (Bernard Blackham) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:14 2004 Subject: [tech] Airport Express Message-ID: <20040818095326.GX2108@blackham.com.au> Coxy setup the Airport Express this morning. It's sitting at screamjet.open.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au, and its ESSID is currently ugg. I created a new VLAN (6) for the .11g network on olive, trunked through to bertoli, which has the ethernet port for the AP. The AP is bridging, sitting at IP 172.26.42.194. Madako is at 172.26.42.193, doing DHCP for 172.26.42.192/27, and NAT'ing non-UWA traffic to flying's WAIX IP address (it works, but this really should change though for the sake of sanity :) There isn't yet any firewalling there. I'd like to be able to put both the 11b and 11g networks on the same VLAN, but this might require more magic from flying than is possible (last I heard, ethernet bridging with Orinoco's didn't work for various technical reasons, though the hostAP stuff could've changed that). Bernard. -- Bernard Blackham From matt at ucc.asn.au Wed Aug 18 18:18:57 2004 From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:14 2004 Subject: [tech] Airport Express In-Reply-To: <20040818095326.GX2108@blackham.com.au> References: <20040818095326.GX2108@blackham.com.au> Message-ID: <20040818101857.GT150098@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 05:53:26PM +0800, Bernard Blackham wrote: > > There isn't yet any firewalling there. I'd like to be able to put > both the 11b and 11g networks on the same VLAN, but this might > require more magic from flying than is possible (last I heard, > ethernet bridging with Orinoco's didn't work for various technical > reasons, though the hostAP stuff could've changed that). Yeah, it works fine - I had it running for a while at home. Need patches if you want iptables+bridging at the same time though. That was with 2.4.something, probably ~18 months back. Matt From bernard at blackham.com.au Wed Aug 18 20:02:47 2004 From: bernard at blackham.com.au (Bernard Blackham) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:14 2004 Subject: [tech] Airport Express In-Reply-To: <20040818095326.GX2108@blackham.com.au> References: <20040818095326.GX2108@blackham.com.au> Message-ID: <20040818120246.GB2108@blackham.com.au> On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 05:53:26PM +0800, Bernard Blackham wrote: > Coxy setup the Airport Express this morning. It's sitting at > screamjet.open.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au, and its ESSID is currently ugg. It doesn't stream over Ethernet, yet. I installed the mdns reflector on madako, but apparently it still doesn't work. If anybody who cares wants to try, feel free. Bernard. -- Bernard Blackham From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Aug 18 21:30:39 2004 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:15 2004 Subject: [tech] Airport Express In-Reply-To: <20040818120246.GB2108@blackham.com.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Aug 2004, Bernard Blackham wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 05:53:26PM +0800, Bernard Blackham wrote: > > Coxy setup the Airport Express this morning. It's sitting at > > screamjet.open.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au, and its ESSID is currently ugg. > > It doesn't stream over Ethernet, yet. I installed the mdns reflector > on madako, but apparently it still doesn't work. If anybody who > cares wants to try, feel free. I didn't poke mdns, but I did reroute the airport express through maroon so there's no need to switch between inputs on the davtronics. Although, maroon -> davtronics is currently mono, since I couldn't find a better cable (it needs either 1/8" -> dual RCA, or 1/8" -> 1/8" to replace the current 1/8" -> dual RCA -> dual RCA -> 1/8" convertor/cable that's screamjet -> maroon). -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From davyd at bridgewayconsulting.com.au Wed Aug 18 23:27:55 2004 From: davyd at bridgewayconsulting.com.au (Davyd Madeley) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:15 2004 Subject: [tech] Airport Express In-Reply-To: <20040818120246.GB2108@blackham.com.au> References: <20040818095326.GX2108@blackham.com.au> <20040818120246.GB2108@blackham.com.au> Message-ID: <1092842875.22505.8.camel@pingu> On Wed, 2004-08-18 at 20:02 +0800, Bernard Blackham wrote: > On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 05:53:26PM +0800, Bernard Blackham wrote: > > Coxy setup the Airport Express this morning. It's sitting at > > screamjet.open.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au, and its ESSID is currently ugg. > > It doesn't stream over Ethernet, yet. I installed the mdns reflector > on madako, but apparently it still doesn't work. If anybody who > cares wants to try, feel free. It doesn't seem to work over ethernet fullstop. From my initial experimentation (this is using the grahame/davyd mdns reflector): - The Rendezvous message is broadcast to all subnets as expected. - You can connect to the RTSP control port 5000 across subnets and send traffic. - iTunes just doesn't seem to care. I have wondered if this is a limitation in iTunes (it refusing to connect to something not on it's subnet, or having a TTL of 1 (I didn't check), or something like that). What I had hoped to do was capture some traffic from iTunes over wireless, and play it back from another subnet. However because the traffic flows over two ports (5000 and 6000 iirc) I didn't have a trivial way to do that. I've been meaning to hack one up. I have two sets of pcap captures from ethereal, one from wireless and one from wired, if people want to check them out. --d -- Davyd Madeley Systems Engineer, Bridgeway Consulting M: 0422 590 883 F: (08) 9490 1418 http://www.bridgewayconsulting.com.au/ From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Aug 24 13:24:32 2004 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:15 2004 Subject: [tech] morwong and stuff Message-ID: Nick brought in some 36gig 10krpm SCA drives yesterday, which we put in SBBs and stuck in morwong. Unfortunately, after putting in the second drive morwong's scsi bus went spang. Upon reboot, a show dev showed that the drive in slot 2 had scsi id 3 (normally SBBs get the same scsi id as their slot). So when I stuck the second drive into slot 3, two drives had the same scsi id and the scsi bus went south. The second drive is now in slot 1 and all is good. Anyway, the plan is to move all of /home onto a mirror made from both 36gig disks. This will leave us with 5 spare 9gig drives, which could then be used to have a 36gig concatenated volume (plex actually) which we can attatch to the mirror volume then detatch to perform offline backups. The other disk can be used to provide a (possibly offline?) mirror of /, /usr etc. for disaster recovery. Other than that, the network outage last night was due to the power outage just after 11pm, excacerbated by bertoli not coming up cleanly (although this was supposed to have been fixed, it didn't seem to take). -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From packrat at ucs.uwa.edu.au Wed Aug 25 12:41:00 2004 From: packrat at ucs.uwa.edu.au (Bruce Murphy) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:15 2004 Subject: [tech] IRC abuse Message-ID: <20040825044100.GB23536@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> Yesterday a g-line was placed on the UWA socks server. It was extremely difficult getting it removed because of reported abuse by various austnet opers from mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au. Specifically, the opers have noticed that people being glined for various abuses while logged in from elsewhere immediately turn up on the network again from mussel. I'm currently organising things to ensure that abuse by UCC members does not affect other members of the university, and I'm organising that reports of abuse by anyone on campus gets filtered through UCS. Naturally we will pass on reports relevant to the UCC. I would appreciate UCC members being made aware of the non-happiness of austnet in general that the UCC is being use as a g-line avoiding resource. B> -- Packrat - Bruce Murphy (UCS projects) Nihil illegitemi carborvndvm From davyd at madeley.id.au Wed Aug 25 12:56:25 2004 From: davyd at madeley.id.au (Davyd Madeley) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:15 2004 Subject: [tech] IRC abuse In-Reply-To: <20040825044100.GB23536@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> References: <20040825044100.GB23536@cyllene.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <1093409785.13983.23.camel@pingu> On Wed, 2004-08-25 at 12:41 +0800, Bruce Murphy wrote: > Yesterday a g-line was placed on the UWA socks server. It was extremely > difficult getting it removed because of reported abuse by various > austnet opers from mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au. Specifically, the opers > have noticed that people being glined for various abuses while logged in > from elsewhere immediately turn up on the network again from mussel. That would explain why the trigger for mussel keeps getting removed. I had been wondering if it was just Austnet incompetence. Of course, given the number of people who commonly IRC from mussel and how unlikely they seem as suspects of an IRC abuse racket, I haven't completely outruled Austnet incompetence just yet. > I'm currently organising things to ensure that abuse by UCC members does > not affect other members of the university, and I'm organising that > reports of abuse by anyone on campus gets filtered through UCS. > Naturally we will pass on reports relevant to the UCC. Good call. --d -- http://davyd.ucc.asn.au/ PGP Fingerprint 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA From david_luyer at pacific.net.au Wed Aug 25 18:33:38 2004 From: david_luyer at pacific.net.au (David Luyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:29:15 2004 Subject: [tech] IRC abuse Message-ID: <1BAD86FA20172C449C56A8E5D51977ABD0199C@pimel-mx1.ozpacnet.office.pacific.net.au> > That would explain why the trigger for mussel keeps getting removed. I > had been wondering if it was just Austnet incompetence. Of course, given > the number of people who commonly IRC from mussel and how unlikely they > seem as suspects of an IRC abuse racket, I haven't completely outruled > Austnet incompetence just yet. The trigger list has disappeared once IIRC. However in general things only disappear from it deliberately, and the one time it did disappear en masse it was restored from a backup and then recreated from the services logs. But then I don't pay too much attention to AustNet when I'm busy with other things (...which is most of the time). > > I'm currently organising things to ensure that abuse by UCC members does > > not affect other members of the university, and I'm organising that > > reports of abuse by anyone on campus gets filtered through UCS. > > Naturally we will pass on reports relevant to the UCC. > > Good call. Is this organizing as in organizing with AustNet admins/opers and/or ASD or organizing a design change to prevent the glines which would be set for such abuse from impacting the rest of UWA? I expect you would know a couple of the AustNet guys. David.