From alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Jan 2 00:43:06 2005 From: alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alastair Irvine) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:43:24 2005 Subject: [tech] mutt address problem on mussel Message-ID: <20050101164306.GA489594@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> mutt on mussel is adding "@mussel" to local usernames, including the sender's. I suggest adding the following line to /etc/Muttrc: set hostname="ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au" # my DNS domain Oddly enough, mutt contains code to determine this. Said code is working on morwong. I have put this problem in my mutt to-do list. -- ... Recalcitrant error. Abort, Retry, Influence with large hammer? _____________________________________________________________________ | | | -=*Alastair Irvine*=- | | C-monkey/wanderer/board&RPGer/net-nut alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au | |_____________________________________________________________________| From davyd at madeley.id.au Sun Jan 2 00:56:43 2005 From: davyd at madeley.id.au (Davyd Madeley) Date: Sun Jan 2 00:56:57 2005 Subject: [tech] mutt address problem on mussel In-Reply-To: <20050101164306.GA489594@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20050101164306.GA489594@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <1104598603.16279.27.camel@pingu.madeley.id.au> On Sun, 2005-01-02 at 00:43 +0800, Alastair Irvine wrote: > mutt on mussel is adding "@mussel" to local usernames, including the > sender's. I suggest adding the following line to /etc/Muttrc: > > set hostname="ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au" # my DNS domain > > Oddly enough, mutt contains code to determine this. Said code is working > on morwong. Here are some related things: [davyd@mussel ~]$ hostname -f < mussel doesn't know mussel < it's FQDN [davyd@mussel ~]$ cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost # should read: 127.0.0.1 mussel.u.g.u.e.a mussel localhost [davyd@mussel ~]$ cat /etc/mailname mussel # should read mussel.u.g.u.e.a [davyd@mussel ~]$ cat /etc/postfix/main.cf | grep myhostname smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU) myhostname = mussel # same You shouldn't need to set any muttrc hostname if you have these set appropriately. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ PGP Fingerprint 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 226 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/tech/attachments/20050102/be504f5a/attachment.pgp From matt at ucc.asn.au Sun Jan 2 01:20:42 2005 From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston) Date: Sun Jan 2 01:20:47 2005 Subject: [tech] mutt address problem on mussel In-Reply-To: <20050101164306.GA489594@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20050101164306.GA489594@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20050101172042.GA476042@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 12:43:06AM +0800, Alastair Irvine wrote: > mutt on mussel is adding "@mussel" to local usernames, including the > sender's. I suggest adding the following line to /etc/Muttrc: > > set hostname="ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au" # my DNS domain > > Oddly enough, mutt contains code to determine this. Said code is working > on morwong. > > I have put this problem in my mutt to-do list. Using mutt on any machine other than morwong is inadvisable at the moment, since morwong's NFS server isn't updating atimes correctly. A few people have poked about trying to find the cause but we didn't succeed. Hopefully martello (new fileserver) will serve /home soonish. Matt From michael at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Jan 2 20:06:45 2005 From: michael at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Michael Deegan) Date: Sun Jan 2 22:55:45 2005 Subject: [tech] mutt address problem on mussel In-Reply-To: <1104598603.16279.27.camel@pingu.madeley.id.au> References: <20050101164306.GA489594@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <1104598603.16279.27.camel@pingu.madeley.id.au> Message-ID: <20050102120645.GA5364@wibble> On Sun, Jan 02, 2005 at 12:56:43AM +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: > [davyd@mussel ~]$ cat /etc/hosts > 127.0.0.1 localhost > # should read: 127.0.0.1 mussel.u.g.u.e.a mussel localhost Ugh. I much prefer leaving 127.0.0.1 for localhost only, and have the machine see that it's own IP address is the same as what anybody outside of the machine sees, ie. 130.95.13.18. Listing the hostname before the FQDN in /etc/hosts doesn't seem to break anything other than hostname -f, and I'm tempted to think this is hostname's fault. :P -M"works for me"D -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Deegan Hugaholic http://michael.ucc.asn.au/ Vs lbh pna ernq guvf, lbh'er ivbyngvat gur QZPN From alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Jan 3 00:01:51 2005 From: alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alastair Irvine) Date: Mon Jan 3 00:01:56 2005 Subject: [tech] mutt address problem on mussel In-Reply-To: <1104598603.16279.27.camel@pingu.madeley.id.au> References: <20050101164306.GA489594@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <1104598603.16279.27.camel@pingu.madeley.id.au> Message-ID: <20050102160151.GD12166@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Sun, 02 January, 2005 at 12:56:43AM +0800, Davyd Madeley wrote: [snip] > Here are some related things: > [davyd@mussel ~]$ hostname -f < mussel doesn't know > mussel < it's FQDN The above now works. The hostname(1) manual page describes the canonical way that this string should be determined. (I wrote a program to test this, which works on both mussel and morwong.) > > [davyd@mussel ~]$ cat /etc/hosts > 127.0.0.1 localhost > # should read: 127.0.0.1 mussel.u.g.u.e.a mussel localhost > > [davyd@mussel ~]$ cat /etc/mailname > mussel > # should read mussel.u.g.u.e.a Shouldn't it leave out the hostname? mailname(5) is kind of vague, but does mention "after the @". I suspect that mutt is using /etc/mailname where found and the canonical method above elsewhere (e.g. morwong). > > [davyd@mussel ~]$ cat /etc/postfix/main.cf | grep myhostname > smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU) > myhostname = mussel > # same > > You shouldn't need to set any muttrc hostname if you have these set > appropriately. Agreed. Sounds like it's not a mutt bug. -- ... Nature, like people, sometimes weeps for gladness. _____________________________________________________________________ | | | -=*Alastair Irvine*=- | | C-monkey/wanderer/board&RPGer/net-nut alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au | |_____________________________________________________________________| From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Jan 3 18:09:08 2005 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Mon Jan 3 18:09:15 2005 Subject: [tech] morwong downtime Message-ID: I'm taking morwong down this evening at 6:30 to upgrade the OS to Tru64 5.1B, and possibly apply patch kit 4. Mail will be stopped, and home dirs won't be acessible until I finish, let's say 9pm or so. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Jan 3 21:29:59 2005 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Mon Jan 3 21:30:05 2005 Subject: [tech] morwong downtime In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Jan 2005, James Andrewartha wrote: > I'm taking morwong down this evening at 6:30 to upgrade the OS to Tru64 > 5.1B, and possibly apply patch kit 4. Mail will be stopped, and home dirs > won't be acessible until I finish, let's say 9pm or so. Right, we're back. I'm installing the latest patch kit now in multi-user mode, so things might be a little strange until it's done. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Jan 3 22:52:57 2005 From: alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alastair Irvine) Date: Mon Jan 3 22:53:07 2005 Subject: [tech] mussel problem Message-ID: <20050103145257.GA29294@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> It appears that mussel is unable to mount home directories. Its host key has also changed (xinos-fytok-kusas-govig-zukal-vyhol-lokak-roruh-zahus-holor-gixix). -- ... To be intoxicated is to feel sophisticated but not be able to say it. _____________________________________________________________________ | | | -=*Alastair Irvine*=- | | C-monkey/wanderer/board&RPGer/net-nut alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au | |_____________________________________________________________________| From matt at ucc.asn.au Mon Jan 3 23:00:46 2005 From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston) Date: Mon Jan 3 23:00:56 2005 Subject: [tech] mussel problem In-Reply-To: <20050103145257.GA29294@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20050103145257.GA29294@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20050103150046.GA14942@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 10:52:57PM +0800, Alastair Irvine wrote: > It appears that mussel is unable to mount home directories. Its host key > has also changed > (xinos-fytok-kusas-govig-zukal-vyhol-lokak-roruh-zahus-holor-gixix). Urm. Everything looks normal to me. Can't comment on the fingerprint, mine has hexadecimal and colons and stuff in it. Matt From davyd at madeley.id.au Mon Jan 3 23:03:15 2005 From: davyd at madeley.id.au (Davyd Madeley) Date: Mon Jan 3 23:03:34 2005 Subject: [tech] mussel problem In-Reply-To: <20050103150046.GA14942@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20050103145257.GA29294@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20050103150046.GA14942@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <1104764595.11568.12.camel@pingu.madeley.id.au> On Mon, 2005-01-03 at 23:00 +0800, Matt Johnston wrote: > On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 10:52:57PM +0800, Alastair Irvine wrote: > > It appears that mussel is unable to mount home directories. Its host key > > has also changed > > (xinos-fytok-kusas-govig-zukal-vyhol-lokak-roruh-zahus-holor-gixix). > > Urm. Everything looks normal to me. Can't comment on the > fingerprint, mine has hexadecimal and colons and stuff in > it. Evidently Alastair has the crazy ssh fingerprint, non homedir mounting, honeypot mussel. --d -- Davyd Madeley http://www.davyd.id.au/ PGP Fingerprint 08B0 341A 0B9B 08BB 2118 C060 2EDD BB4F 5191 6CDA From alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Jan 3 23:21:58 2005 From: alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alastair Irvine) Date: Mon Jan 3 23:22:08 2005 Subject: [tech] mussel problem In-Reply-To: <20050103150046.GA14942@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20050103145257.GA29294@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20050103150046.GA14942@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20050103152158.GA40351@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, 03 January, 2005 at 11:00:46PM +0800, Matt Johnston wrote: > On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 10:52:57PM +0800, Alastair Irvine wrote: > > It appears that mussel is unable to mount home directories. Its host key > > has also changed > > (xinos-fytok-kusas-govig-zukal-vyhol-lokak-roruh-zahus-holor-gixix). > > Urm. Everything looks normal to me. Can't comment on the > fingerprint, mine has hexadecimal and colons and stuff in > it. It appears that morwong's OSF1 5.1B upgrade has updated the ssh2 client. /usr/ucb/ssh, /bin/ssh and /usr/bin/ssh are now all "SSH Secure Shell Tru64 UNIX (V1.1) 2.4.1" . This client apparently looks for stuff in the ~/.ssh2 directory instead of ~/.ssh . This includes the private key file, which must now be called "identification". Keys of type "Proc-Type: 4,ENCRYPTED" do not appear to be supported. /usr/local/bin/ssh is OpenSSH v3.5; it works the same as before. The fingerprint format should have been a dead giveaway (to everyone including myself) that the client was the source of the problem. -- ... I wouldn't take a bet against the existence of time machines. My opponent might have seen the future and know the answer. -- Stephen Hawking _____________________________________________________________________ | | | -=*Alastair Irvine*=- | | C-monkey/wanderer/board&RPGer/net-nut alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au | |_____________________________________________________________________| From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Jan 4 02:43:50 2005 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Tue Jan 4 02:43:58 2005 Subject: [tech] bubblebabble In-Reply-To: <20050103152158.GA40351@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20050103145257.GA29294@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20050103150046.GA14942@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20050103152158.GA40351@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20050103184350.GB60852@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Jan 03, 2005 at 11:21:58PM +0800, Alastair Irvine wrote: [...] > The fingerprint format should have been a dead giveaway (to everyone > including myself) that the client was the source of the problem. I quite like bubblebabble as a key distribution concept... mussel: ~>ssh-keygen -B -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub 1024 xinos-fytok-kusas-govig-zukal-vyhol-lokak-roruh-zahus-holor-gixix /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub mussel: ~>ssh-keygen -l -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub 1024 cd:13:88:e1:08:e0:7c:5a:b4:4f:f3:fd:db:8f:c7:98 /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key.pub Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick-sig@rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Jan 4 22:56:12 2005 From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam) Date: Tue Jan 4 22:56:25 2005 Subject: [tech] SPAM filter problems Message-ID: So *that*'s why I haven't been able to subscribe... SpamAssassin has been marking my incoming subscrition requests from freebsd-stable@freebsd.org as SPAM (and my Pine filters are thus eating them). The UCS header contains: X-SpamTest-Info: {odd address in FROM: digits mixed with letters} Message is attached. Can someone have a look and tell me why this is marked as SPAM? Cheers, David Adam zanchey@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Jan 4 23:28:20 2005 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Tue Jan 4 23:28:35 2005 Subject: [tech] SPAM filter problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Jan 2005, David Adam wrote: > So *that*'s why I haven't been able to subscribe... > > SpamAssassin has been marking my incoming subscrition requests > from freebsd-stable@freebsd.org as SPAM (and my Pine filters are thus > eating them). > > The UCS header contains: > X-SpamTest-Info: {odd address in FROM: digits mixed with letters} > > Message is attached. No it's not. > Can someone have a look and tell me why this is marked as SPAM? spamreports@ucs.uwa.edu.au is a good place to ask. Or just put in an accept filter before your eat SPAM filter - if you can't do that in pine, it's very easy to do in procmail. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Jan 5 12:23:19 2005 From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam) Date: Wed Jan 5 12:23:35 2005 Subject: [tech] SPAM filter problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Message is attached. > > No it's not. Ah, well, I'll just ask UCS. > > Can someone have a look and tell me why this is marked as SPAM? > > spamreports@ucs.uwa.edu.au is a good place to ask. Or just put in an So it *does* exist. No-one (and I've tried UCS a few times a while back) would tell me how I could report things as non-spam, and they certainly weren't making it easy to find. (Yes, I'm aware there is a ~single link~ to the anti-spam system on the UCS pages.) Thanks, David zanchey@ From andrew at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Jan 5 13:16:19 2005 From: andrew at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Williams) Date: Wed Jan 5 13:16:53 2005 Subject: [tech] SPAM filter problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1369851693.20050105131619@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 12:23:19 PM, David wrote: > So it *does* exist. No-one (and I've tried UCS a few times a while back) > would tell me how I could report things as non-spam, and they certainly > weren't making it easy to find. (Yes, I'm aware there is a ~single link~ > to the anti-spam system on the UCS pages.) The campus-wide system is dealing with millions of email messages going to thousands of people - exactly how many staff do you think there are to spend all day tweaking rules to make sure everyone's filtering is perfect? Do what everyone else does - read through your junkmail occasionally, and write your own filters to catch misidentified email... Andrew From susie at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Jan 5 15:59:50 2005 From: susie at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Susie Hellings) Date: Wed Jan 5 15:59:55 2005 Subject: [tech] SPAM filter problems In-Reply-To: <1369851693.20050105131619@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <1369851693.20050105131619@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20050105075949.GA295136@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 01:16:19PM +0800, Andrew Williams wrote: > > Wednesday, January 5, 2005, 12:23:19 PM, David wrote: > > > So it *does* exist. No-one (and I've tried UCS a few times a while back) > > would tell me how I could report things as non-spam, and they certainly > > weren't making it easy to find. (Yes, I'm aware there is a ~single link~ > > to the anti-spam system on the UCS pages.) > > The campus-wide system is dealing with millions of email messages > going to thousands of people - exactly how many staff do you think > there are to spend all day tweaking rules to make sure everyone's > filtering is perfect? spamreports@ucs goes directly to Kaperski, not UCS. > > Do what everyone else does - read through your junkmail occasionally, > and write your own filters to catch misidentified email... > > Andrew Susie From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Jan 25 10:49:36 2005 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Tue Jan 25 10:50:04 2005 Subject: [tech] Re: manbo In-Reply-To: <20050118045410.GY60852@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <200501180415.j0I4FBj0000423500@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20050118045410.GY60852@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20050125024936.GO60852@morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 12:54:10PM +0800, Nick Bannon wrote: [...] > 16 x UltraSPARC-I 167MHz CPUs > 2GiB RAM in 3.3V ECC EDO 168 pin DIMMs Small update from last night. James and I spread the RAM out a bit over the boards, the full 2GiB is available. There are 12 CPUs (two to a board) with 1M of cache, 2 with 512K of cache and one suspect board that stops the machine from booting. The Peripheral Power Supply arrived and works, this enables hot swapping. ::-) Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick-sig@rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From verification at paypal.com Fri Jan 28 04:40:30 2005 From: verification at paypal.com (PayPal) Date: Fri Jan 28 04:37:59 2005 Subject: [tech] Regarding Your Account Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/tech/attachments/20050127/6235e1ad/attachment.html