From reapsta at gmail.com  Sat May  1 17:16:49 2010
From: reapsta at gmail.com (Craig Williams)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 17:16:49 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
Message-ID: <z2m8c9621af1005010216secbcbf64wa68e467e3d07b562@mail.gmail.com>

Hi guys,

ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old 7TB central
admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.

I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up here


reg

[RPS]
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From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Sat May  1 17:38:02 2010
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 17:38:02 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
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References: <z2m8c9621af1005010216secbcbf64wa68e467e3d07b562@mail.gmail.com>
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I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly half-rack
sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these things, and
what we are going to use them for?

Bob Adamson
UCC Treasurer

|"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
|attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |


On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:

> Hi guys,
> 
> ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
> 
> I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up here
> 
> 
> reg
> 
> [RPS]
> 
>

From sj26 at ucc.asn.au  Sat May  1 18:06:51 2010
From: sj26 at ucc.asn.au (Samuel Cochran)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 18:06:51 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005011735240.5940@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <z2m8c9621af1005010216secbcbf64wa68e467e3d07b562@mail.gmail.com> 
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.1005011735240.5940@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
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Bob, that seems a bit rude.

It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can be
skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the
clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty and of no cost to the club
I don't think theft is a huge issue.

Being considerate and positive goes a long way.

Sam.


Samuel Cochran
sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909


On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly half-rack
> sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these things, and
> what we are going to use them for?
>
> Bob Adamson
> UCC Treasurer
>
> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
>
>
>
> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>
>  Hi guys,
>>
>> ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old 7TB
>> central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>>
>> I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up here
>>
>>
>> reg
>>
>> [RPS]
>>
>>
>>
>
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From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Sat May  1 18:53:40 2010
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 18:53:40 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
In-Reply-To: <v2w2950750e1005010306i4c2f13efy4e0fa3f0a8a7a979@mail.gmail.com>
References: <z2m8c9621af1005010216secbcbf64wa68e467e3d07b562@mail.gmail.com>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.1005011735240.5940@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
	<v2w2950750e1005010306i4c2f13efy4e0fa3f0a8a7a979@mail.gmail.com>
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My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I came 
across rude.

UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club 
relies on them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some 
extra storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to 
accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While 
theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be able 
to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the 
aircon be able to keep up?

You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have 
observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they 
are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games that 
sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted 
them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not to 
say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants (quite 
the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are valid.

Bob Adamson
UCC Treasurer

|"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
|attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |


On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:

> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
> 
> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
> 
> Sam.
> 
> 
> Samuel Cochran
> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
> 
> 
> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>       I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly half-rack
>       sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these things, and
>       what we are going to use them for?
>
>       Bob Adamson
>       UCC Treasurer
>
>       |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous ? ? ? ?|
>       |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
>       | ---Peter's Laws ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?|
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>
>       Hi guys,
>
>       ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>
>       I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up here
> 
>
>       reg
>
>       [RPS]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>

From adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Sat May  1 19:49:02 2010
From: adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Adrian Chadd)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:49:02 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005011821040.5940@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <z2m8c9621af1005010216secbcbf64wa68e467e3d07b562@mail.gmail.com>
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	<v2w2950750e1005010306i4c2f13efy4e0fa3f0a8a7a979@mail.gmail.com>
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Actually, this should include things like:

* if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
  protection before the fucking thing catches fire?

If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.

I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
clubroom, aircon or not.


Adrian

On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
> My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I came 
> across rude.
>
> UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on 
> them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra 
> storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to  
> accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While  
> theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be able 
> to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the  
> aircon be able to keep up?
>
> You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have  
> observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they  
> are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games that 
> sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted  
> them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not 
> to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants 
> (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are 
> valid.
>
> Bob Adamson
> UCC Treasurer
>
> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
>
>
> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
>
>> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
>> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
>> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
>>
>> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
>>
>> Sam.
>>
>>
>> Samuel Cochran
>> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>>       I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly half-rack
>>       sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these things, and
>>       what we are going to use them for?
>>
>>       Bob Adamson
>>       UCC Treasurer
>>
>>       |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous ? ? ? ?|
>>       |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
>>       | ---Peter's Laws ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?|
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>>
>>       Hi guys,
>>
>>       ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>>
>>       I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up here
>>
>>
>>       reg
>>
>>       [RPS]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>


From adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Sat May  1 19:53:18 2010
From: adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Adrian Chadd)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 19:53:18 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
In-Reply-To: <20100501114902.GD8564@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <z2m8c9621af1005010216secbcbf64wa68e467e3d07b562@mail.gmail.com>
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.. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
can lead to some pretty funny disasters..



Adrian

On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> 
> Actually, this should include things like:
> 
> * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
>   protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
> 
> If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
> server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
> 
> I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
> clubroom, aircon or not.
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
> > My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I came 
> > across rude.
> >
> > UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on 
> > them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra 
> > storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to  
> > accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While  
> > theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be able 
> > to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the  
> > aircon be able to keep up?
> >
> > You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have  
> > observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they  
> > are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games that 
> > sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted  
> > them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not 
> > to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants 
> > (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are 
> > valid.
> >
> > Bob Adamson
> > UCC Treasurer
> >
> > |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
> > |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
> > | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
> >
> >> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
> >> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
> >> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
> >>
> >> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
> >>
> >> Sam.
> >>
> >>
> >> Samuel Cochran
> >> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> >>       I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly half-rack
> >>       sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these things, and
> >>       what we are going to use them for?
> >>
> >>       Bob Adamson
> >>       UCC Treasurer
> >>
> >>       |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous ? ? ? ?|
> >>       |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
> >>       | ---Peter's Laws ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?|
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>       Hi guys,
> >>
> >>       ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
> >>
> >>       I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up here
> >>
> >>
> >>       reg
> >>
> >>       [RPS]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>

From mitch at ucc.asn.au  Sat May  1 20:32:06 2010
From: mitch at ucc.asn.au (Mitch Kelly)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 20:32:06 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
In-Reply-To: <20100501115318.GE8564@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <z2m8c9621af1005010216secbcbf64wa68e467e3d07b562@mail.gmail.com>	<alpine.DEB.1.10.1005011735240.5940@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>	<v2w2950750e1005010306i4c2f13efy4e0fa3f0a8a7a979@mail.gmail.com>	<alpine.DEB.1.10.1005011821040.5940@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>	<20100501114902.GD8564@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
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In todays news:

UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.

-----Original Message-----
From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
To: Bob Adamson
Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS


.. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
can lead to some pretty funny disasters..



Adrian

On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> 
> Actually, this should include things like:
> 
> * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
>   protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
> 
> If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
> server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
> 
> I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
> clubroom, aircon or not.
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
> > My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
came 
> > across rude.
> >
> > UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on 
> > them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra 
> > storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to  
> > accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While

> > theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
able 
> > to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the  
> > aircon be able to keep up?
> >
> > You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have  
> > observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they

> > are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
that 
> > sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted

> > them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not 
> > to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants 
> > (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are 
> > valid.
> >
> > Bob Adamson
> > UCC Treasurer
> >
> > |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
|
> > |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary"
|
> > | ---Peter's Laws
|
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
> >
> >> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
> >> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can
be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the
clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
> >> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
> >>
> >> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
> >>
> >> Sam.
> >>
> >>
> >> Samuel Cochran
> >> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
wrote:
> >>       I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
half-rack
> >>       sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
things, and
> >>       what we are going to use them for?
> >>
> >>       Bob Adamson
> >>       UCC Treasurer
> >>
> >>       |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
? ? ? ?|
> >>       |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
necessary" |
> >>       | ---Peter's Laws ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ?|
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
> >>
> >>       Hi guys,
> >>
> >>       ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
> >>
> >>       I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
here
> >>
> >>
> >>       reg
> >>
> >>       [RPS]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon May  3 09:18:16 2010
From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:18:16 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
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On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:32:06PM +0800, Mitch Kelly wrote:
> In todays news:
> 
> UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.
>
Blades + Virtualisation are generally as a rule much more energy effecient / heat output freindly than individual servers. Just Saying.
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
> To: Bob Adamson
> Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
> Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS
> 
> 
> .. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
> but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
> can lead to some pretty funny disasters..
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > 
> > Actually, this should include things like:
> > 
> > * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
> >   protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
> > 
> > If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
> > server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
> > 
> > I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
> > clubroom, aircon or not.
> > 
> > 
> > Adrian
> > 
> > On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
> > > My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
> came 
> > > across rude.
> > >
> > > UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on 
> > > them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra 
> > > storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to  
> > > accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While
> 
> > > theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
> able 
> > > to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the  
> > > aircon be able to keep up?
> > >
> > > You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have  
> > > observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they
> 
> > > are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
> that 
> > > sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted
> 
> > > them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not 
> > > to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants 
> > > (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are 
> > > valid.
> > >
> > > Bob Adamson
> > > UCC Treasurer
> > >
> > > |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
> |
> > > |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary"
> |
> > > | ---Peter's Laws
> |
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
> > >> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can
> be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the
> clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
> > >> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
> > >>
> > >> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
> > >>
> > >> Sam.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Samuel Cochran
> > >> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
> wrote:
> > >>       I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
> half-rack
> > >>       sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
> things, and
> > >>       what we are going to use them for?
> > >>
> > >>       Bob Adamson
> > >>       UCC Treasurer
> > >>
> > >>       |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
> ? ? ? ?|
> > >>       |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
> necessary" |
> > >>       | ---Peter's Laws ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ?|
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
> > >>
> > >>       Hi guys,
> > >>
> > >>       ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
> 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
> > >>
> > >>       I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
> here
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>       reg
> > >>
> > >>       [RPS]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2835 - Release Date: 05/01/10
> 02:27:00

-- 
"The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism,
it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," 
- Wayne Norbitz 

From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon May  3 09:20:13 2010
From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:20:13 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
In-Reply-To: <021f01cae92a$4fc29190$ef47b4b0$@asn.au>
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Another question. What is the load rating of the floor?

ANdrew.

On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:32:06PM +0800, Mitch Kelly wrote:
> In todays news:
> 
> UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
> On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
> To: Bob Adamson
> Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
> Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS
> 
> 
> .. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
> but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
> can lead to some pretty funny disasters..
> 
> 
> 
> Adrian
> 
> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> > 
> > Actually, this should include things like:
> > 
> > * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
> >   protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
> > 
> > If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
> > server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
> > 
> > I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
> > clubroom, aircon or not.
> > 
> > 
> > Adrian
> > 
> > On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
> > > My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
> came 
> > > across rude.
> > >
> > > UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on 
> > > them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra 
> > > storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to  
> > > accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While
> 
> > > theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
> able 
> > > to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the  
> > > aircon be able to keep up?
> > >
> > > You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have  
> > > observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they
> 
> > > are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
> that 
> > > sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted
> 
> > > them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not 
> > > to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants 
> > > (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are 
> > > valid.
> > >
> > > Bob Adamson
> > > UCC Treasurer
> > >
> > > |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
> |
> > > |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary"
> |
> > > | ---Peter's Laws
> |
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
> > >> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can
> be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the
> clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
> > >> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
> > >>
> > >> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
> > >>
> > >> Sam.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Samuel Cochran
> > >> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
> wrote:
> > >>       I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
> half-rack
> > >>       sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
> things, and
> > >>       what we are going to use them for?
> > >>
> > >>       Bob Adamson
> > >>       UCC Treasurer
> > >>
> > >>       |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
> ? ? ? ?|
> > >>       |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
> necessary" |
> > >>       | ---Peter's Laws ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
> ? ? ? ?|
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
> > >>
> > >>       Hi guys,
> > >>
> > >>       ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
> 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
> > >>
> > >>       I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
> here
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>       reg
> > >>
> > >>       [RPS]
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
> Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2835 - Release Date: 05/01/10
> 02:27:00

-- 
"The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism,
it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," 
- Wayne Norbitz 

From spectre at ucc.asn.au  Mon May  3 09:22:23 2010
From: spectre at ucc.asn.au (Justin Wake)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:22:23 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
In-Reply-To: <20100503011816.GA15640@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
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Compared to rack servers, yeah, but the heat density is obviously much higher - those things are like little furnaces. Overall it'll be a win, but actually installing and using it will require a little forethought and planning.

On 03/05/2010, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Bailey wrote:

> On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:32:06PM +0800, Mitch Kelly wrote:
>> In todays news:
>> 
>> UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.
>> 
> Blades + Virtualisation are generally as a rule much more energy effecient / heat output freindly than individual servers. Just Saying.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
>> On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
>> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
>> To: Bob Adamson
>> Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
>> Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS
>> 
>> 
>> .. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
>> but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
>> can lead to some pretty funny disasters..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, this should include things like:
>>> 
>>> * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
>>>  protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
>>> 
>>> If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
>>> server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
>>> 
>>> I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
>>> clubroom, aircon or not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Adrian
>>> 
>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
>>>> My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
>> came 
>>>> across rude.
>>>> 
>>>> UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on 
>>>> them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra 
>>>> storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to  
>>>> accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While
>> 
>>>> theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
>> able 
>>>> to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the  
>>>> aircon be able to keep up?
>>>> 
>>>> You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have  
>>>> observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they
>> 
>>>> are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
>> that 
>>>> sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted
>> 
>>>> them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not 
>>>> to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants 
>>>> (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are 
>>>> valid.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob Adamson
>>>> UCC Treasurer
>>>> 
>>>> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>> |
>>>> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary"
>> |
>>>> | ---Peter's Laws
>> |
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
>>>>> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can
>> be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the
>> clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
>>>>> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sam.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Samuel Cochran
>>>>> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
>> wrote:
>>>>>      I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
>> half-rack
>>>>>      sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
>> things, and
>>>>>      what we are going to use them for?
>>>>> 
>>>>>      Bob Adamson
>>>>>      UCC Treasurer
>>>>> 
>>>>>      |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>        |
>>>>>      |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>> necessary" |
>>>>>      | ---Peter's Laws                                                
>>        |
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>      Hi guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>>      ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
>> 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>>>>> 
>>>>>      I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
>> here
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>      reg
>>>>> 
>>>>>      [RPS]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
>> Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2835 - Release Date: 05/01/10
>> 02:27:00
> 
> -- 
> "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism,
> it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," 
> - Wayne Norbitz 


From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon May  3 09:47:16 2010
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 09:47:16 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
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For those of you not on irc, it has been suggested that we replace manduba 
(in the physics building) with the blade server. This is obviously 
dependent on power usage and heat requirements, but would be a win-win for 
ucc. We may want to get a few more blades for it if we can though.

Bob Adamson
UCC Treasurer

|"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
|attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |


On Mon, 3 May 2010, Justin Wake wrote:

> Compared to rack servers, yeah, but the heat density is obviously much higher - those things are like little furnaces. Overall it'll be a win, but actually installing and using it will require a little forethought and planning.
>
> On 03/05/2010, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Bailey wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:32:06PM +0800, Mitch Kelly wrote:
>>> In todays news:
>>>
>>> UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.
>>>
>> Blades + Virtualisation are generally as a rule much more energy effecient / heat output freindly than individual servers. Just Saying.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
>>> On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
>>> To: Bob Adamson
>>> Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
>>> Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS
>>>
>>>
>>> .. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
>>> but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
>>> can lead to some pretty funny disasters..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually, this should include things like:
>>>>
>>>> * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
>>>>  protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
>>>>
>>>> If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
>>>> server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
>>>>
>>>> I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
>>>> clubroom, aircon or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
>>>>> My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
>>> came
>>>>> across rude.
>>>>>
>>>>> UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on
>>>>> them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra
>>>>> storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to
>>>>> accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While
>>>
>>>>> theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
>>> able
>>>>> to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the
>>>>> aircon be able to keep up?
>>>>>
>>>>> You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have
>>>>> observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they
>>>
>>>>> are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
>>> that
>>>>> sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted
>>>
>>>>> them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not
>>>>> to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants
>>>>> (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are
>>>>> valid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Adamson
>>>>> UCC Treasurer
>>>>>
>>>>> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>> |
>>>>> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary"
>>> |
>>>>> | ---Peter's Laws
>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
>>>>>> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can
>>> be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the
>>> clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
>>>>>> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samuel Cochran
>>>>>> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>      I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
>>> half-rack
>>>>>>      sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
>>> things, and
>>>>>>      what we are going to use them for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Bob Adamson
>>>>>>      UCC Treasurer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>>        |
>>>>>>      |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>>> necessary" |
>>>>>>      | ---Peter's Laws
>>>        |
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
>>> 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
>>> here
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      reg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      [RPS]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2835 - Release Date: 05/01/10
>>> 02:27:00
>>
>> --
>> "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism,
>> it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism,"
>> - Wayne Norbitz
>

From reapsta at gmail.com  Mon May  3 15:35:56 2010
From: reapsta at gmail.com (Craig Williams)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 15:35:56 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005030943590.5940@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
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This is all great, but we need to get the stuff.

Volunteers for picking stuff up?

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> For those of you not on irc, it has been suggested that we replace manduba
> (in the physics building) with the blade server. This is obviously dependent
> on power usage and heat requirements, but would be a win-win for ucc. We may
> want to get a few more blades for it if we can though.
>
>
> Bob Adamson
> UCC Treasurer
>
> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
>
>
> On Mon, 3 May 2010, Justin Wake wrote:
>
>  Compared to rack servers, yeah, but the heat density is obviously much
>> higher - those things are like little furnaces. Overall it'll be a win, but
>> actually installing and using it will require a little forethought and
>> planning.
>>
>> On 03/05/2010, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Bailey wrote:
>>
>>  On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:32:06PM +0800, Mitch Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>>> In todays news:
>>>>
>>>> UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.
>>>>
>>>>  Blades + Virtualisation are generally as a rule much more energy
>>> effecient / heat output freindly than individual servers. Just Saying.
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:
>>>> tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
>>>> On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
>>>> To: Bob Adamson
>>>> Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
>>>> Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
>>>> but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
>>>> can lead to some pretty funny disasters..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, this should include things like:
>>>>>
>>>>> * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
>>>>>  protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
>>>>> server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
>>>>> clubroom, aircon or not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
>>>>>>
>>>>> came
>>>>
>>>>> across rude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on
>>>>>> them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra
>>>>>> storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to
>>>>>> accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought.
>>>>>> While
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
>>>>>>
>>>>> able
>>>>
>>>>> to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the
>>>>>> aircon be able to keep up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have
>>>>>> observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not
>>>>>> to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants
>>>>>> (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are
>>>>>> valid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Adamson
>>>>>> UCC Treasurer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>>>>>> necessary"
>>>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>> | ---Peter's Laws
>>>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Bob, that seems a bit rude.
>>>>>>> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden,
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space
>>>> in the
>>>> clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
>>>>
>>>>> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sam.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samuel Cochran
>>>>>>> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> half-rack
>>>>
>>>>>     sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> things, and
>>>>
>>>>>     what we are going to use them for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Bob Adamson
>>>>>>>     UCC Treasurer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>       |
>>>>
>>>>>     |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> necessary" |
>>>>
>>>>>     | ---Peter's Laws
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>       |
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hi guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>     I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> here
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     reg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     [RPS]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>> Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2835 - Release Date: 05/01/10
>>>> 02:27:00
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of
>>> athleticism,
>>> it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display
>>> patriotism,"
>>> - Wayne Norbitz
>>>
>>
>>
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From sj26 at ucc.asn.au  Mon May  3 19:02:34 2010
From: sj26 at ucc.asn.au (Samuel Cochran)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 19:02:34 +0800
Subject: [tech] Donations from ITS
In-Reply-To: <y2u8c9621af1005030035sa66ae01dm3bf556b4b7fee1e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <z2m8c9621af1005010216secbcbf64wa68e467e3d07b562@mail.gmail.com> 
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	<alpine.DEB.1.10.1005011821040.5940@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> 
	<20100501114902.GD8564@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
	<20100501115318.GE8564@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> 
	<021f01cae92a$4fc29190$ef47b4b0$@asn.au>
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	<7F7AB79D-EB9D-4F3E-B8BB-8377D936AEEE@ucc.asn.au>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.1005030943590.5940@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
	<y2u8c9621af1005030035sa66ae01dm3bf556b4b7fee1e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u2g2950750e1005030402nbadee8a5s2c0578ecefe94815@mail.gmail.com>

I can help, depends on when. Available tomorrow afternoon?

Sam.


Samuel Cochran
sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909


On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Craig Williams <reapsta at gmail.com> wrote:

> This is all great, but we need to get the stuff.
>
> Volunteers for picking stuff up?
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>
>> For those of you not on irc, it has been suggested that we replace manduba
>> (in the physics building) with the blade server. This is obviously dependent
>> on power usage and heat requirements, but would be a win-win for ucc. We may
>> want to get a few more blades for it if we can though.
>>
>>
>> Bob Adamson
>> UCC Treasurer
>>
>> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
>> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
>> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 3 May 2010, Justin Wake wrote:
>>
>>  Compared to rack servers, yeah, but the heat density is obviously much
>>> higher - those things are like little furnaces. Overall it'll be a win, but
>>> actually installing and using it will require a little forethought and
>>> planning.
>>>
>>> On 03/05/2010, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Bailey wrote:
>>>
>>>  On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:32:06PM +0800, Mitch Kelly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In todays news:
>>>>>
>>>>> UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Blades + Virtualisation are generally as a rule much more energy
>>>> effecient / heat output freindly than individual servers. Just Saying.
>>>>
>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:
>>>>> tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
>>>>> On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
>>>>> To: Bob Adamson
>>>>> Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
>>>>> Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> .. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
>>>>> but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
>>>>> can lead to some pretty funny disasters..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actually, this should include things like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
>>>>>>  protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP
>>>>>> blade
>>>>>> server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
>>>>>> clubroom, aircon or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> came
>>>>>
>>>>>> across rude.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra
>>>>>>> storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to
>>>>>>> accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought.
>>>>>>> While
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> able
>>>>>
>>>>>> to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the
>>>>>>> aircon be able to keep up?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have
>>>>>>> observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC,
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>> sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody
>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants
>>>>>>> (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are
>>>>>>> valid.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bob Adamson
>>>>>>> UCC Treasurer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>>>>>>> necessary"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>> | ---Peter's Laws
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Bob, that seems a bit rude.
>>>>>>>> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden,
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space
>>>>> in the
>>>>> clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
>>>>>
>>>>>>  and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sam.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Samuel Cochran
>>>>>>>> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>      I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> half-rack
>>>>>
>>>>>>      sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> things, and
>>>>>
>>>>>>      what we are going to use them for?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Bob Adamson
>>>>>>>>     UCC Treasurer
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a
>>>>>>>> righteous
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       |
>>>>>
>>>>>>      |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> necessary" |
>>>>>
>>>>>>      | ---Peter's Laws
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>       |
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Hi guys,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     reg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     [RPS]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  No virus found in this incoming message.
>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>> Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2835 - Release Date:
>>>>> 05/01/10
>>>>> 02:27:00
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of
>>>> athleticism,
>>>> it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display
>>>> patriotism,"
>>>> - Wayne Norbitz
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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From snehal.patel at uwa.edu.au  Wed May  5 13:50:59 2010
From: snehal.patel at uwa.edu.au (Snehal Patel)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 13:50:59 +0800
Subject: [tech] Network Outage, Sunday 9th May.
Message-ID: <6A365F53-8A14-43BE-BF71-60D3E508838A@admin.uwa.edu.au>

Hi UCC,

Please find attached the details of the network outage scheduled for this Sunday 9th May, between 3:00 and 5:00 PM.

The network will be temporarily unavailable while we replace a distribution point switch.

Thanks,

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From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Thu May  6 19:03:13 2010
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:03:13 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Lorenzo
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005061856070.4842@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Hi all,

The source of this evenings downtime was Lorenzo - it essentially forgot 
its entire config and caused us to lose our uplink, amongst other things. 
We figured it would be quicker and easier to finish moving everything onto 
Coconut than to fiddle with Lorenzo. Lorenzo is now switched off, with 
nothing plugged into it.

Bob Adamson
UCC Treasurer

|"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
|attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |


From mitch at ucc.asn.au  Thu May  6 19:18:42 2010
From: mitch at ucc.asn.au (Mitch Kelly)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:18:42 +0800
Subject: [tech] Lorenzo
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005061856070.4842@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005061856070.4842@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <004701caed0d$e5edb8c0$b1c92a40$@asn.au>

Looks like someone forgot to wr mem :P

-----Original Message-----
From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
On Behalf Of Bob Adamson
Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2010 7:03 PM
To: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au
Subject: [tech] Lorenzo

Hi all,

The source of this evenings downtime was Lorenzo - it essentially forgot 
its entire config and caused us to lose our uplink, amongst other things. 
We figured it would be quicker and easier to finish moving everything onto 
Coconut than to fiddle with Lorenzo. Lorenzo is now switched off, with 
nothing plugged into it.

Bob Adamson
UCC Treasurer

|"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
|attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2853 - Release Date: 05/06/10
14:26:00


From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Thu May  6 19:22:11 2010
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:22:11 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Lorenzo
In-Reply-To: <004701caed0d$e5edb8c0$b1c92a40$@asn.au>
References: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005061856070.4842@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
	<004701caed0d$e5edb8c0$b1c92a40$@asn.au>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005061919490.4842@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

To give a serious answer to a stupid comment:
No, Lorenzo even forgot its own name, the names of every port, and thought 
that every port was on vlan 1. Somehow I find it hard to believe there 
hasn't been a write since we acquired it.

Bob Adamson
UCC Treasurer

|"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
|attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |


On Thu, 6 May 2010, Mitch Kelly wrote:

> Looks like someone forgot to wr mem :P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
> On Behalf Of Bob Adamson
> Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2010 7:03 PM
> To: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au
> Subject: [tech] Lorenzo
>
> Hi all,
>
> The source of this evenings downtime was Lorenzo - it essentially forgot
> its entire config and caused us to lose our uplink, amongst other things.
> We figured it would be quicker and easier to finish moving everything onto
> Coconut than to fiddle with Lorenzo. Lorenzo is now switched off, with
> nothing plugged into it.
>
> Bob Adamson
> UCC Treasurer
>
> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2853 - Release Date: 05/06/10
> 14:26:00
>

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Thu May  6 19:25:07 2010
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 19:25:07 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Computers: We have them
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005061914380.4842@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Hi Again,

<boring bit>
A visitor to the clubroom today (or a webcam stalker) may have noticed 
that we have finally been able to put the 3 new LCD screens out. They are 
firmly secured with 8mm cables through the bench - please see that they 
stay that way, we don't want them stolen.
</boring bit>

<exciting bit>
Now that we have screens, we have been able to resurrect *3 more 
computers*. Chaenopsis is back, Pinball is back, and [TPG] is currently 
installing Win 7 on Characid (a C2D donated by [SJY]). This means we are 
finally back to the number of clubroom machines we had before the hail 
storm.
</exciting bit>

Bob Adamson
UCC Treasurer

|"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
|attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |


From mitch at ucc.asn.au  Thu May  6 20:20:29 2010
From: mitch at ucc.asn.au (Mitch Kelly)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 20:20:29 +0800
Subject: [tech] Removal of Rome
Message-ID: <004901caed16$8450c630$8cf25290$@asn.au>

Hi,

 

Rome will be removed Friday and not replaced with any other box, I will also
be cancelling my UCC account.

 

If you have data/account on there please advise me and I will give you its
new IP on Hostaway's network.

 

Thanks

Mitch Kelly

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From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Thu May  6 20:35:24 2010
From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 20:35:24 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Lorenzo
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005061919490.4842@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
References: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005061856070.4842@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
	<004701caed0d$e5edb8c0$b1c92a40$@asn.au>
	<alpine.DEB.1.10.1005061919490.4842@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005062034440.21429@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

On Thu, 6 May 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:

> To give a serious answer to a stupid comment:
> No, Lorenzo even forgot its own name, the names of every port, and thought
> that every port was on vlan 1. Somehow I find it hard to believe there hasn't
> been a write since we acquired it.

Further, 
http://cvs.ucc.asn.au/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/rancid/ucc/configs/lorenzo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au?view=markup

> On Thu, 6 May 2010, Mitch Kelly wrote:
> 
> > Looks like someone forgot to wr mem :P
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
> > On Behalf Of Bob Adamson
> > Sent: Thursday, 6 May 2010 7:03 PM
> > To: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au
> > Subject: [tech] Lorenzo
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > The source of this evenings downtime was Lorenzo - it essentially forgot
> > its entire config and caused us to lose our uplink, amongst other things.
> > We figured it would be quicker and easier to finish moving everything onto
> > Coconut than to fiddle with Lorenzo. Lorenzo is now switched off, with
> > nothing plugged into it.


-- 
# TRS-80              trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \
# UCC Wheel Member     http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #|  what squirrels do best     |
[ "There's nobody getting rich writing          ]|  -- Collect and hide your   |
[  software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\  nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 /

From mitch at ucc.asn.au  Fri May 14 17:57:37 2010
From: mitch at ucc.asn.au (Mitch Kelly)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:57:37 +0800
Subject: [tech] Recently Acquired SUN and SGI Gear
Message-ID: <002701caf34b$e775e340$b661a9c0$@asn.au>

Hi,

 

I recently acquired some SGI and SUN Gear, It All seems a bit too confusing.

 

What I have:

Sunblade 2000

2x USIII-CU-C (Ultrasparc 3)

2x XVR-1200 Graphics cards (400Mb Aparently)

8Gb Ram

2x FC 36Gb Drives

 

SGI Origin 300

4x CPU's from the looks?? Unknowns Specs?

16GB Ram (WOW!)

A bundle of SCSI cards and Random connectors on the back

No HDD (Normal SCA Plugs)

 

If anyone knows something interesting to do with these please let me know J
I would be happy to put them somewhere on a Live IP for people to play with.

 

Mitch

 

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From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Fri May 14 18:14:48 2010
From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 18:14:48 +0800
Subject: [tech] Changes to management LAN
Message-ID: <AANLkTilPYk9rAmkt9CrsL_08MlOaaimcKMXV6Qm15qmB@mail.gmail.com>

Evening all,

A couple of small updates regarding the management LAN.

1) All machines that have DRAC or LOM are now setup to be accessible.
Switches are also all setup (though that's not really news).

2) Changes to DNS:

    We now have a new domain .mgmt - machines are now addressed in DNS
with just their machine name - no reference to whether its DRAC or LOM
(eg. coconut.mgmt, murjan.mgmt)

    The idea behind this is to simplify things - you shouldn't have to
remember whether its one or the other.

[TRS] has suggested setting up Robotnik to play an MGMT song whenever
a DNS lookup for that domain occurs - this idea and making the
management stuff available from all UWA subnets are up for discussion.

Cheers,
Matt [MRD]

From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Fri May 14 22:00:50 2010
From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam)
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 22:00:50 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Changes to management LAN
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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005142156320.4503@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

On Fri, 14 May 2010, Matt Didcoe wrote:
> A couple of small updates regarding the management LAN.
> 
> 1) All machines that have DRAC or LOM are now setup to be accessible.
> Switches are also all setup (though that's not really news).
> 
> 2) Changes to DNS:
> 
>     We now have a new domain .mgmt - machines are now addressed in DNS
> with just their machine name - no reference to whether its DRAC or LOM
> (eg. coconut.mgmt, murjan.mgmt)
> 
>     The idea behind this is to simplify things - you shouldn't have to
> remember whether its one or the other.

Adding the mgmt zone broke zonemake - it uses Python's ConfigParser, which 
doesn't like having more than one config section by the same name. Also, 
the nonexistent cabal decided that switches in the mgmt zone was dumb.

The zonefile has been hacked up a bit, and now DRAC/LOM/whatever for 
machines is under $machinename.mgmt.ucc... and switches are 
$switchname.ucc... That is, if the machine already has a hostname, its 
management interface will be in the .mgmt. zone. If not, it's not.

David Adam
UCC Wheel Member
zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au

From matt at ucc.asn.au  Mon May 17 20:03:50 2010
From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 20:03:50 +0800
Subject: [tech] UCC ext-mx
Message-ID: <20100517120350.GI20097@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Hi.

Matt Didcoe noticed outgoing mail wasn't working right from some
machines (perhaps just martello), turned out that martello
was waiting to connect to ext-mx.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on
130.95.13.15. I thought that was meant to be .13.12, I've
changed it back now, and things seem working. Anyone know
how it changed?

ucc.machines's date was
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26773 May 14 22:02 ucc.machines

The reason martello's using ext-mx rather than mailhost is
that mailhost.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au has a MX record pointing to
ext-mx. I think that is probably wrong, though won't change
it now.

Matt

From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue May 18 10:54:47 2010
From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:54:47 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] [wheel] UCC ext-mx
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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005181053010.4503@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

On Mon, 17 May 2010, Matt Johnston wrote:
> Matt Didcoe noticed outgoing mail wasn't working right from some
> machines (perhaps just martello), turned out that martello
> was waiting to connect to ext-mx.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on
> 130.95.13.15. I thought that was meant to be .13.12, I've
> changed it back now, and things seem working. Anyone know
> how it changed?
> 
> ucc.machines's date was
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 26773 May 14 22:02 ucc.machines

That was me. Sorry. I remember doing so but not why... maybe I got 
confused about the IPs that were firewalled, or possessed by the devil, or 
something.

> The reason martello's using ext-mx rather than mailhost is
> that mailhost.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au has a MX record pointing to
> ext-mx. I think that is probably wrong, though won't change
> it now.

That sounds reasonable to fix.

[DAA]

From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Tue May 25 20:44:26 2010
From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 20:44:26 +0800
Subject: [tech] Upcoming projects
Message-ID: <AANLkTil40sY-RgrQ5jPU5JChzoa8xTra9GiBcEi2FNYf@mail.gmail.com>

Howdy,

Got some projects in the works and wanted to give people a heads up
about what was on the cards.

1) Upgrading the UCC Jabber server

Looking at using ejabberd with a mysql backing. It's apparently quite
quick and flexible - also up-to-date.

2) UCC Wireless

Over the mid-semester break, we'll get back into working out the kinks
in implementing 802.1x with WPA2. At this stage, it's looking like
Windows XP is going to be the real hurdle, but the Mac OS was playing
up a while back as well.

Zanchey has a good idea of where we're at and we'll hopefully have
that in place by the time Semester 2 kicks off.

3) Windows 7 and Samba

They currently don't love each other. Dr Zanchey is doing some
relationship counselling, but it's not looking promising at this stage
- haven't heard back from samba/samba-dev lists. Will revisit over the
break when there's less people in the clubroom trying to use
computers.

4) Charging correctly for printing

There's some "specialness" about the way it works now, we'll hopefully
be ironing out those bugs when we get a new printer.

5) Re-wiring UCC

This one came up a few weeks back. Mark Tearle and I have caught up
since then and he's shared his thoughts on the topic. A (hopefully
accurate) summary of those discussions is below:

 - Fibre link to ITS: Don't even bother messing with it - costs lots
of money and is a pain in the arse.
 - Clubroom wiring: Upgrading this is doable and in theory we can
probably get it done quite cheaply.
    - Write letter to Panduit, who UWA funnel lots of money for
networking stuff. Mark will counter sign with "UWA hat on", asking for
free conduit, cables, patch panels, ports etc.
    - Person who supervises us installing / does the installing must
meet the following reqs.
       - ACMA Structured Cabling licence
       - Ability to sign off on a TCA1 form
       - Hold current public liability to $20 million
       - Workers Compensation insurance
    - If we get to the install stage, Mark will make contact with some
of UWA's preferred vendors/suppliers for wiring and see what favours
we can pull.

That's where we're at right now - I'm sure there's some projects going
on in the background that I've missed, but needless to say that
progress is being made around the club.

If you've got something you'd like to do, let us know and we'll see
what we can do to make it happen!

Cheers,
Matt [MRD]
UCC President 2010

From danielax at gmail.com  Tue May 25 22:59:37 2010
From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel J. Axtens)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2010 22:59:37 +0800
Subject: [tech] Upcoming projects
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> That's where we're at right now - I'm sure there's some projects going
> on in the background that I've missed, but needless to say that
> progress is being made around the club.
>
> If you've got something you'd like to do, let us know and we'll see
> what we can do to make it happen!

Another thing that'll be going on during semester break is preparation
for the UCC prog::comp 2010. If you're interested in programming,
setting up websites, technical documentation, security, dealing with
people or anything else that might be useful in running a programming
competition, I'd love to hear from you!

[DJA]

From matt at ucc.asn.au  Wed May 26 20:37:01 2010
From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 20:37:01 +0800
Subject: [tech] ssh.ucc moved
Message-ID: <20100526123701.GA6234@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Hi all,

I've moved ssh.ucc.asn.au to just point at martello
directly, since the bright link one wasn't working and the
coke-charged one seemed a bit unfair.

It's using .13.11 which is ssh-old (the coke-charged one)'s
old address. SSH hostkeys will complain unfortunately. For
paranoid people the fingerprint is as below.

Cheers,
Matt

RSA key fingerprint is
0f:f3:ee:bc:9c:fb:f9:6c:20:39:1c:5a:30:fb:30:de.
+--[ RSA 1024]----+
|                 |
|        o        |
|         +       |
|        + o      |
|       .SO o     |
|        o=E .    |
|          oo .   |
|         + . o.  |
|         .O+ooo  |
+-----------------+

From matt at ucc.asn.au  Wed May 26 21:51:37 2010
From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston)
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 21:51:37 +0800
Subject: [tech] [wheel] UCC ext-mx
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	<alpine.DEB.1.10.1005181053010.4503@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
Message-ID: <20100526135137.GC6234@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:54:47AM +0800, David Adam wrote:
> > The reason martello's using ext-mx rather than mailhost is
> > that mailhost.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au has a MX record pointing to
> > ext-mx. I think that is probably wrong, though won't change
> > it now.
> 
> That sounds reasonable to fix.

I've the remove the MX now, nothing seemed to break.

Matt

From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Fri May 28 12:44:01 2010
From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:44:01 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Changes to Samba (Windows 7 should work on the domain soon)
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005281208280.4503@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

I have been trying to get Samba working with the Windows 7 machines in the 
clubroom. http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2010-March/154351.html is a 
brief discussion of the problem.

After doing some testing on murjan (a random Dell) I am pretty sure that I 
know what the problem is. Windows uses security identifiers (SIDs) in much 
the same way that Unix uses UIDs, but it appears that the SID for our 
Samba domain is not entirely valid, and is rejected by Windows 7.

This is reasonably easy to fix; the domain SID is stored in LDAP and is 
easy to change. However, as all user and machine accounts are based on the 
domain SID, renumbering the domain will require renumbering all accounts - 
easy enough with sed and slapcat/slapadd.

However (again), this will almost certainly break domain memberships and 
local filesystem permissions (e.g. permissions local copies of roaming 
profiles) on the XP machine(s) currently joined to the domain, so I think 
we need to unjoin them and then make the changes before rejoining them to 
the domain.

To do this with minimal disruption I am planning on commandeering the 
Windows machines in the clubroom before the LAN tomorrow.

Secondly, I am a bit sick of the hoops you have to jump through to create 
Samba machine accounts, specifically the part where you need to create a 
local Unix account on the domain controller machine. I have some minimal 
changes to the Samba config that will create the machine accounts in LDAP 
under ou=Computers whenever a new machine joins the domain, so I think we 
can probably get rid of that step.

This will have the advantage of a) speeding up Samba with the use of 
ldapsam:trusted and b) allowing Winadmins to join new boxes to the domain 
without requiring wheel group intervention.

David Adam
UCC Wheel Group
zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au

From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au  Mon May 31 14:22:25 2010
From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson)
Date: Mon, 31 May 2010 14:22:25 +0800 (WST)
Subject: [tech] Win 7 boxen
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.1.10.1005311420070.25901@martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>

Hi all,

Now that Characid, Combtail and Cephalopod are all on the domain, I have 
gone through and nuked the temporary local accounts and set the local 
Administrator password to the new (long) clubroom password. Wheel and 
winadmins are also set as administrators.

Bob Adamson
UCC Treasurer

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