From zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Aug 3 11:18:29 2009 From: zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alwyn Lloyd) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:18:29 +0800 (WST) Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: References: <20090622013814.GB13895@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090622074739.GC13895@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090717101054.21771ems9tbuia3k@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: simple sub rotation scheme Subs. 5: Kieron 6: James 7: Dave 8: Chas 9: Tommo 13: Alwyn 32: Accy 34: Chris starting: 5,6,7,8,9 | 13,32,34 Then: 5|6,7,8,9,13|32,34 5,6|7,8,9,13,32|34 5,6,7|8,9,13,32,34 5|6,7,8|9,13,32,34 etc.. The only problem with this scheme is that Tommo and Accy are both off at 1 point. the advantage of this scheme is that they are both on for 3, so there can be some good inside plays. and it's simple to remember/organise. Other ideas for subbing schemes? Alwyn From zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Aug 3 11:24:01 2009 From: zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alwyn Lloyd) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:24:01 +0800 (WST) Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: References: <20090622013814.GB13895@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090622074739.GC13895@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090717101054.21771ems9tbuia3k@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: This is assuming that i've remembered everyones numbers correctly of course.. > > simple sub rotation scheme > > Subs. > > 5: Kieron > 6: James > 7: Dave > 8: Chas > 9: Tommo > 13: Alwyn > 32: Accy > 34: Chris > > starting: > 5,6,7,8,9 | 13,32,34 > Then: > 5|6,7,8,9,13|32,34 > 5,6|7,8,9,13,32|34 > 5,6,7|8,9,13,32,34 > 5|6,7,8|9,13,32,34 > > etc.. > The only problem with this scheme is that Tommo and Accy are both off at 1 > point. the advantage of this scheme is that they are both on for 3, so > there can be some good inside plays. > > and it's simple to remember/organise. > > Other ideas for subbing schemes? > > Alwyn > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > From tommo at ucc.asn.au Mon Aug 3 11:32:59 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 11:32:59 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: References: <20090622013814.GB13895@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090622074739.GC13895@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090717101054.21771ems9tbuia3k@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090803113259.18681cfc1twishnk@secure.ucc.asn.au> If we want to avoid having Accy and I off at the same time all we have to do is avoid having our numbers within three spaces of each other in the sequence. Which can be done by swapping him and Chris, or me and Chas. In fact, we could probably reshuffle those numbers slightly to ensure we're never short on capable ball-handlers or big men at any given time. For example, it'd also be worth spacing Chris, Kieron and Chas out such that there's almost always at least 2 of them on court. But otherwise, this looks like a good way of doing it. Tom. Quoting "Alwyn Lloyd" : > > This is assuming that i've remembered everyones numbers correctly of > course.. >> >> simple sub rotation scheme >> >> Subs. >> >> 5: Kieron >> 6: James >> 7: Dave >> 8: Chas >> 9: Tommo >> 13: Alwyn >> 32: Accy >> 34: Chris >> >> starting: >> 5,6,7,8,9 | 13,32,34 >> Then: >> 5|6,7,8,9,13|32,34 >> 5,6|7,8,9,13,32|34 >> 5,6,7|8,9,13,32,34 >> 5|6,7,8|9,13,32,34 >> >> etc.. >> The only problem with this scheme is that Tommo and Accy are both off at 1 >> point. the advantage of this scheme is that they are both on for 3, so >> there can be some good inside plays. >> >> and it's simple to remember/organise. >> >> Other ideas for subbing schemes? >> >> Alwyn >> _______________________________________________ >> Basketball mailing list >> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball >> > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Aug 3 11:34:10 2009 From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:34:10 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: References: <20090717101054.21771ems9tbuia3k@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090803033410.GA15287@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> But I like to start on. Also I tend to try and have two breaks per half. Also we'd probably want to multi sub at some point, we often don't get enough breaks in play to call single subs often enough. On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 11:18:29AM +0800, Alwyn Lloyd wrote: > > simple sub rotation scheme > > Subs. > > 5: Kieron > 6: James > 7: Dave > 8: Chas > 9: Tommo > 13: Alwyn > 32: Accy > 34: Chris > > starting: > 5,6,7,8,9 | 13,32,34 > Then: > 5|6,7,8,9,13|32,34 > 5,6|7,8,9,13,32|34 > 5,6,7|8,9,13,32,34 > 5|6,7,8|9,13,32,34 > > etc.. > The only problem with this scheme is that Tommo and Accy are both off at 1 > point. the advantage of this scheme is that they are both on for 3, so > there can be some good inside plays. > > and it's simple to remember/organise. > > Other ideas for subbing schemes? > > Alwyn > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball -- "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism, it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," - Wayne Norbitz From zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Aug 3 11:49:32 2009 From: zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alwyn Lloyd) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:49:32 +0800 (WST) Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: <20090803033410.GA15287@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20090717101054.21771ems9tbuia3k@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090803033410.GA15287@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: >Also we'd probably want to multi sub at some point, we often don't get enough breaks in play to call single subs often enough. > Thats is a good point, when we were talking about it at the game, we were making the assumption that we;d be getting the chance to make a subs call every 2-3 mins at most, when actually, you can get stretches of game time that are 5+mins before there is a foul.. -A From dunc+bb at dunc.org Mon Aug 3 12:05:37 2009 From: dunc+bb at dunc.org (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 12:05:37 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: References: <20090717101054.21771ems9tbuia3k@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090803033410.GA15287@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: That's easy to fix - you just set a target time, eg 1 rotation every 2m. Then the first sub in line notes their sub-in time (18:00 on the clock given 20:00 halves), and passes that info to the next person (16:00), etc. The last sub tells their time to the person subbing off. So everyone knows their scheduled time to sub in. If that time has passed at the next sub, you go on. Or you could work it out beforehand on paper and print it out. Eg if the first sub is at 17:00, only sub one person. If the first sub is at 15:30, then sub 2 people. ,dunc 2009/8/3 Alwyn Lloyd > > > >Also we'd probably want to multi sub at some point, we often don't get > enough breaks in play to call single subs often enough. > > > > Thats is a good point, when we were talking about it at the game, we > were making the assumption that we;d be getting the chance to make a subs > call every 2-3 mins at most, when actually, you can get stretches of game > time that are 5+mins before there is a foul.. > > -A > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/basketball/attachments/20090803/2eb02301/attachment.htm From tommo at ucc.asn.au Mon Aug 3 12:30:15 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:30:15 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: References: <20090717101054.21771ems9tbuia3k@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090803033410.GA15287@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20090803123015.43566eyppfx5g8hs@secure.ucc.asn.au> A couple more things to consider: 40 minutes x 5 players = 200 player minutes / 8 = 25 minutes per person. So if we divide it up evenly everyone should be off for ~7.5 minutes per half. Is everyone happy with that amount? Obviously some of us would like to be off less than that, but more importantly, does anyone need to be off more? Secondly, I'm slightly concerned about what a rigid subbing pattern could do for our flow. If Kieron hits a couple of consecutive threes or Accy gets some nice drives out of the middle, do we really want to interrupt that momentum by subbing them out, just because their name has come up? I'm tempted to suggest we should have a guideline of 2 x 3-4 min subs per player per half, but then allow a bit more flexibility with the ordering. If everyone makes an effort to keep track (yes, especially me) I'm sure we could make that work. NOTE - for 7 players it'd be 2 x 2-3 min subs per player per half. for 6 players 2 x 1-2 min subs per player per half. Tom. Quoting "Duncan Sargeant" : > That's easy to fix - you just set a target time, eg 1 rotation every 2m. > Then the first sub in line notes their sub-in time (18:00 on the clock given > 20:00 halves), and passes that info to the next person (16:00), etc. The > last sub tells their time to the person subbing off. So everyone knows > their scheduled time to sub in. If that time has passed at the next sub, > you go on. Or you could work it out beforehand on paper and print it out. > > Eg if the first sub is at 17:00, only sub one person. If the first sub is > at 15:30, then sub 2 people. > > ,dunc > > 2009/8/3 Alwyn Lloyd > >> >> >> >Also we'd probably want to multi sub at some point, we often don't get >> enough breaks in play to call single subs often enough. >> > >> >> Thats is a good point, when we were talking about it at the game, we >> were making the assumption that we;d be getting the chance to make a subs >> call every 2-3 mins at most, when actually, you can get stretches of game >> time that are 5+mins before there is a foul.. >> >> -A >> _______________________________________________ >> Basketball mailing list >> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball >> >> > From chas at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Aug 3 17:28:51 2009 From: chas at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Chas Stan-Bishop) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:28:51 +0800 (WST) Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: <20090803123015.43566eyppfx5g8hs@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20090717101054.21771ems9tbuia3k@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090803033410.GA15287@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090803123015.43566eyppfx5g8hs@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: Yeah, I'm not actually a huge fan of a rigid pattern. They get messed up if someone neeeds to come off early due to injury, or sickness, or whatever. If we just make sure that we don't sub someone off who just came on (unless possibly it's me :P), and we make sure no-one spends too long on the bench (>8 mins, say), that'd be enough. Although if we just keep track of time on the bench, that might make for some odd line-ups in the closing minutes... :/ Chas On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, tommo at ucc.asn.au wrote: > A couple more things to consider: > > 40 minutes x 5 players = 200 player minutes / 8 = 25 minutes per person. > > So if we divide it up evenly everyone should be off for ~7.5 minutes > per half. Is everyone happy with that amount? Obviously some of us > would like to be off less than that, but more importantly, does anyone > need to be off more? > > Secondly, I'm slightly concerned about what a rigid subbing pattern > could do for our flow. If Kieron hits a couple of consecutive threes > or Accy gets some nice drives out of the middle, do we really want to > interrupt that momentum by subbing them out, just because their name > has come up? > > I'm tempted to suggest we should have a guideline of 2 x 3-4 min subs > per player per half, but then allow a bit more flexibility with the > ordering. If everyone makes an effort to keep track (yes, especially > me) I'm sure we could make that work. > > NOTE - for 7 players it'd be 2 x 2-3 min subs per player per half. > for 6 players 2 x 1-2 min subs per player per half. > > Tom. > > Quoting "Duncan Sargeant" : > >> That's easy to fix - you just set a target time, eg 1 rotation every 2m. >> Then the first sub in line notes their sub-in time (18:00 on the clock given >> 20:00 halves), and passes that info to the next person (16:00), etc. The >> last sub tells their time to the person subbing off. So everyone knows >> their scheduled time to sub in. If that time has passed at the next sub, >> you go on. Or you could work it out beforehand on paper and print it out. >> >> Eg if the first sub is at 17:00, only sub one person. If the first sub is >> at 15:30, then sub 2 people. >> >> ,dunc >> >> 2009/8/3 Alwyn Lloyd >> >>> >>> >>>> Also we'd probably want to multi sub at some point, we often don't get >>> enough breaks in play to call single subs often enough. >>>> >>> >>> Thats is a good point, when we were talking about it at the game, we >>> were making the assumption that we;d be getting the chance to make a subs >>> call every 2-3 mins at most, when actually, you can get stretches of game >>> time that are 5+mins before there is a foul.. >>> >>> -A >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Basketball mailing list >>> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >>> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball >>> >>> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > From tommo at ucc.asn.au Tue Aug 4 08:56:13 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:56:13 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: References: <20090717101054.21771ems9tbuia3k@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090803033410.GA15287@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090803123015.43566eyppfx5g8hs@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090804085613.20204wi3wu4tq1hc@secure.ucc.asn.au> Yep, I suspect the pattern-messed-up-by-early-subs thing is likely to be a bit of an issue. I think the best solution is just for everyone to keep track of how long they've been off and aim for 6-to-9 mins bench time per half in either 1 or 2 breaks. It probably won't end up exactly even, but it should be fairly close. If there's anyone who should be on towards the end of a close game, they should just make sure they have their bench time earlier in the second half. Tom. Quoting "Chas Stan-Bishop" : > > Yeah, I'm not actually a huge fan of a rigid pattern. They get messed up > if someone neeeds to come off early due to injury, or sickness, or > whatever. > > If we just make sure that we don't sub someone off who just came on > (unless possibly it's me :P), and we make sure no-one spends too long on > the bench (>8 mins, say), that'd be enough. Although if we just keep track > of time on the bench, that might make for some odd line-ups in the closing > minutes... :/ > > Chas > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, tommo at ucc.asn.au wrote: > >> A couple more things to consider: >> >> 40 minutes x 5 players = 200 player minutes / 8 = 25 minutes per person. >> >> So if we divide it up evenly everyone should be off for ~7.5 minutes >> per half. Is everyone happy with that amount? Obviously some of us >> would like to be off less than that, but more importantly, does anyone >> need to be off more? >> >> Secondly, I'm slightly concerned about what a rigid subbing pattern >> could do for our flow. If Kieron hits a couple of consecutive threes >> or Accy gets some nice drives out of the middle, do we really want to >> interrupt that momentum by subbing them out, just because their name >> has come up? >> >> I'm tempted to suggest we should have a guideline of 2 x 3-4 min subs >> per player per half, but then allow a bit more flexibility with the >> ordering. If everyone makes an effort to keep track (yes, especially >> me) I'm sure we could make that work. >> >> NOTE - for 7 players it'd be 2 x 2-3 min subs per player per half. >> for 6 players 2 x 1-2 min subs per player per half. >> >> Tom. >> >> Quoting "Duncan Sargeant" : >> >>> That's easy to fix - you just set a target time, eg 1 rotation every 2m. >>> Then the first sub in line notes their sub-in time (18:00 on the >>> clock given >>> 20:00 halves), and passes that info to the next person (16:00), etc. The >>> last sub tells their time to the person subbing off. So everyone knows >>> their scheduled time to sub in. If that time has passed at the next sub, >>> you go on. Or you could work it out beforehand on paper and print it out. >>> >>> Eg if the first sub is at 17:00, only sub one person. If the first sub is >>> at 15:30, then sub 2 people. >>> >>> ,dunc >>> >>> 2009/8/3 Alwyn Lloyd >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Also we'd probably want to multi sub at some point, we often don't get >>>> enough breaks in play to call single subs often enough. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thats is a good point, when we were talking about it at the game, we >>>> were making the assumption that we;d be getting the chance to make a subs >>>> call every 2-3 mins at most, when actually, you can get stretches of game >>>> time that are 5+mins before there is a foul.. >>>> >>>> -A >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Basketball mailing list >>>> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >>>> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Basketball mailing list >> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball >> > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Aug 4 09:26:39 2009 From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey) Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 09:26:39 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: <20090804085613.20204wi3wu4tq1hc@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090803033410.GA15287@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090803123015.43566eyppfx5g8hs@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090804085613.20204wi3wu4tq1hc@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090804012638.GA24293@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 08:56:13AM +0800, tommo at ucc.asn.au wrote: > Yep, I suspect the pattern-messed-up-by-early-subs thing is likely to > be a bit of an issue. > > I think the best solution is just for everyone to keep track of how > long they've been off and aim for 6-to-9 mins bench time per half in > either 1 or 2 breaks. It probably won't end up exactly even, but it > should be fairly close. > > If there's anyone who should be on towards the end of a close game, > they should just make sure they have their bench time earlier in the > second half. > To my mind it's probably best to have 2 3-4 minute breaks per half. Andrew. > Tom. > > Quoting "Chas Stan-Bishop" : > > > > > Yeah, I'm not actually a huge fan of a rigid pattern. They get messed up > > if someone neeeds to come off early due to injury, or sickness, or > > whatever. > > > > If we just make sure that we don't sub someone off who just came on > > (unless possibly it's me :P), and we make sure no-one spends too long on > > the bench (>8 mins, say), that'd be enough. Although if we just keep track > > of time on the bench, that might make for some odd line-ups in the closing > > minutes... :/ > > > > Chas > > > > On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, tommo at ucc.asn.au wrote: > > > >> A couple more things to consider: > >> > >> 40 minutes x 5 players = 200 player minutes / 8 = 25 minutes per person. > >> > >> So if we divide it up evenly everyone should be off for ~7.5 minutes > >> per half. Is everyone happy with that amount? Obviously some of us > >> would like to be off less than that, but more importantly, does anyone > >> need to be off more? > >> > >> Secondly, I'm slightly concerned about what a rigid subbing pattern > >> could do for our flow. If Kieron hits a couple of consecutive threes > >> or Accy gets some nice drives out of the middle, do we really want to > >> interrupt that momentum by subbing them out, just because their name > >> has come up? > >> > >> I'm tempted to suggest we should have a guideline of 2 x 3-4 min subs > >> per player per half, but then allow a bit more flexibility with the > >> ordering. If everyone makes an effort to keep track (yes, especially > >> me) I'm sure we could make that work. > >> > >> NOTE - for 7 players it'd be 2 x 2-3 min subs per player per half. > >> for 6 players 2 x 1-2 min subs per player per half. > >> > >> Tom. > >> > >> Quoting "Duncan Sargeant" : > >> > >>> That's easy to fix - you just set a target time, eg 1 rotation every 2m. > >>> Then the first sub in line notes their sub-in time (18:00 on the > >>> clock given > >>> 20:00 halves), and passes that info to the next person (16:00), etc. The > >>> last sub tells their time to the person subbing off. So everyone knows > >>> their scheduled time to sub in. If that time has passed at the next sub, > >>> you go on. Or you could work it out beforehand on paper and print it out. > >>> > >>> Eg if the first sub is at 17:00, only sub one person. If the first sub is > >>> at 15:30, then sub 2 people. > >>> > >>> ,dunc > >>> > >>> 2009/8/3 Alwyn Lloyd > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Also we'd probably want to multi sub at some point, we often don't get > >>>> enough breaks in play to call single subs often enough. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thats is a good point, when we were talking about it at the game, we > >>>> were making the assumption that we;d be getting the chance to make a subs > >>>> call every 2-3 mins at most, when actually, you can get stretches of game > >>>> time that are 5+mins before there is a foul.. > >>>> > >>>> -A > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Basketball mailing list > >>>> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > >>>> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Basketball mailing list > >> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > >> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Basketball mailing list > > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball -- "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism, it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," - Wayne Norbitz From tommo at ucc.asn.au Tue Aug 4 09:50:02 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2009 09:50:02 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] game on the 1st In-Reply-To: <20090804012638.GA24293@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20090723082042.82122g5vzsaj1i2o@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090803033410.GA15287@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090803123015.43566eyppfx5g8hs@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090804085613.20204wi3wu4tq1hc@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090804012638.GA24293@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20090804095002.16869zrgfaxjlej4@secure.ucc.asn.au> Yep, agreed. I think that's generally the way to go. But if for whatever reason someone takes both their 3-4 minute breaks in one go, it's not the end of the world. Tom. > To my mind it's probably best to have 2 3-4 minute breaks per half. > > Andrew. > > >> Tom. >> >> Quoting "Chas Stan-Bishop" : >> >> > >> > Yeah, I'm not actually a huge fan of a rigid pattern. They get messed up >> > if someone neeeds to come off early due to injury, or sickness, or >> > whatever. >> > >> > If we just make sure that we don't sub someone off who just came on >> > (unless possibly it's me :P), and we make sure no-one spends too long on >> > the bench (>8 mins, say), that'd be enough. Although if we just keep track >> > of time on the bench, that might make for some odd line-ups in the closing >> > minutes... :/ >> > >> > Chas >> > >> > On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, tommo at ucc.asn.au wrote: >> > >> >> A couple more things to consider: >> >> >> >> 40 minutes x 5 players = 200 player minutes / 8 = 25 minutes per person. >> >> >> >> So if we divide it up evenly everyone should be off for ~7.5 minutes >> >> per half. Is everyone happy with that amount? Obviously some of us >> >> would like to be off less than that, but more importantly, does anyone >> >> need to be off more? >> >> >> >> Secondly, I'm slightly concerned about what a rigid subbing pattern >> >> could do for our flow. If Kieron hits a couple of consecutive threes >> >> or Accy gets some nice drives out of the middle, do we really want to >> >> interrupt that momentum by subbing them out, just because their name >> >> has come up? >> >> >> >> I'm tempted to suggest we should have a guideline of 2 x 3-4 min subs >> >> per player per half, but then allow a bit more flexibility with the >> >> ordering. If everyone makes an effort to keep track (yes, especially >> >> me) I'm sure we could make that work. >> >> >> >> NOTE - for 7 players it'd be 2 x 2-3 min subs per player per half. >> >> for 6 players 2 x 1-2 min subs per player per half. >> >> >> >> Tom. >> >> >> >> Quoting "Duncan Sargeant" : >> >> >> >>> That's easy to fix - you just set a target time, eg 1 rotation every 2m. >> >>> Then the first sub in line notes their sub-in time (18:00 on the >> >>> clock given >> >>> 20:00 halves), and passes that info to the next person (16:00), >> etc. The >> >>> last sub tells their time to the person subbing off. So everyone knows >> >>> their scheduled time to sub in. If that time has passed at the >> next sub, >> >>> you go on. Or you could work it out beforehand on paper and >> print it out. >> >>> >> >>> Eg if the first sub is at 17:00, only sub one person. If the >> first sub is >> >>> at 15:30, then sub 2 people. >> >>> >> >>> ,dunc >> >>> >> >>> 2009/8/3 Alwyn Lloyd >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Also we'd probably want to multi sub at some point, we often don't get >> >>>> enough breaks in play to call single subs often enough. >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thats is a good point, when we were talking about it at the game, we >> >>>> were making the assumption that we;d be getting the chance to >> make a subs >> >>>> call every 2-3 mins at most, when actually, you can get >> stretches of game >> >>>> time that are 5+mins before there is a foul.. >> >>>> >> >>>> -A >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> Basketball mailing list >> >>>> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> >>>> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Basketball mailing list >> >> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> >> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Basketball mailing list >> > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball >> > >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Basketball mailing list >> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > > -- > "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism, > it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," > - Wayne Norbitz > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > From zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Aug 10 15:23:31 2009 From: zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alwyn Lloyd) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:23:31 +0800 (WST) Subject: [UCCBball] Fwd: Basketball: End of season video footage (fwd) Message-ID: Does anyone have a camera that we could use for this?? Alwyn ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Laurence Houghton Date: 2009/8/8 Subject: Basketball: End of season video footage Hey hey! The end of season basketball service will be on the Sunday 20th September. Over the final weeks of the basketball season it would be great if you could?take video footage of your team to be shown in the service. Could the following people arrange footage for the following teams? Jacks - MA and WA Greg - MC2 and WD Youngy - MC2 Seb - MA2 teams Alwyn/Chas - MD Carlos - MC1 Please confirm with me that you are able to do this.?You will need to get your?footage in?by September 5th to Carlos (to be confirmed) at the very latest. Also, please invite your teams along to Sportsfest (www.sportsfest.org, or facebook page: Claremont Sportsfest 09). To warn you again, the cutoff is?only a?week away 16th August. Laurence 0402705519 ps. please remember mixed training is now Thursday nights 630 to 8 pm at Presbyterian Ladies College, please inform your teams and anyone who might want to play next season. From tommo at ucc.asn.au Mon Aug 10 15:58:34 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:58:34 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Fwd: Basketball: End of season video footage (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090810155834.20963jbwv6wlwtog@secure.ucc.asn.au> Tina's nephew has a video camera that she might be able to borrow. She could probably be cameraperson as well. I'll ask her tonight. Tom. Quoting "Alwyn Lloyd" : > > Does anyone have a camera that we could use for this?? > > Alwyn > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Laurence Houghton > Date: 2009/8/8 > Subject: Basketball: End of season video footage > > Hey hey! > > The end of season basketball service will be on the Sunday 20th September. > > Over the final weeks of the basketball season it would be great if you > could take video footage of your team to be shown in the service. > Could the following people arrange footage for the following teams? > > Jacks - MA and WA > Greg - MC2 and WD > Youngy - MC2 > Seb - MA2 teams > Alwyn/Chas - MD > Carlos - MC1 > > Please confirm with me that you are able to do this. You will need to > get your footage in by September 5th to Carlos (to be confirmed) at > the very latest. > > Also, please invite your teams along to Sportsfest > (www.sportsfest.org, or facebook page: Claremont Sportsfest 09). To > warn you again, the cutoff is only a week away 16th August. > > Laurence > 0402705519 > > ps. please remember mixed training is now Thursday nights 630 to 8 pm > at Presbyterian Ladies College, please inform your teams and anyone > who might want to play next season. From zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Aug 20 12:53:40 2009 From: zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alwyn Lloyd) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:53:40 +0800 (WST) Subject: [UCCBball] Fwd: Basketball: End of season video footage (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Does anyone have a camera that we could use for this?? Any other options other than from Tommo? Tommo, are you able to organise a camera for this weekend or the following one? CHeers, ALwyn From tommo at ucc.asn.au Thu Aug 20 13:18:29 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:18:29 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Fwd: Basketball: End of season video footage (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090820131829.25088put5h8uxj1c@secure.ucc.asn.au> I talked to Tina about it, and she reckoned we should be able to manage it for this week (and probably subsequent weeks too). I'll ask her to email her nephew so we can find out for certain. Tom. Quoting "Alwyn Lloyd" : > >> >> Does anyone have a camera that we could use for this?? > > > Any other options other than from Tommo? > > Tommo, are you able to organise a camera for this weekend or the following > one? > > > CHeers, > ALwyn > > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > From tommo at ucc.asn.au Thu Aug 20 13:59:38 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:59:38 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Fwd: Basketball: End of season video footage (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20090820131829.25088put5h8uxj1c@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20090820131829.25088put5h8uxj1c@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090820135938.25905w2uxxet7wqo@secure.ucc.asn.au> All sorted. We'll bring the camera along on Sat and Tina will film. Tom. Quoting tommo at ucc.asn.au: > I talked to Tina about it, and she reckoned we should be able to > manage it for this week (and probably subsequent weeks too). I'll ask > her to email her nephew so we can find out for certain. > > Tom. > > Quoting "Alwyn Lloyd" : > >> >>> >>> Does anyone have a camera that we could use for this?? >> >> >> Any other options other than from Tommo? >> >> Tommo, are you able to organise a camera for this weekend or the following >> one? >> >> >> CHeers, >> ALwyn >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Basketball mailing list >> Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > From zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Aug 20 14:12:59 2009 From: zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alwyn Lloyd) Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:12:59 +0800 (WST) Subject: [UCCBball] Fwd: Basketball: End of season video footage (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20090820135938.25905w2uxxet7wqo@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20090820131829.25088put5h8uxj1c@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090820135938.25905w2uxxet7wqo@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: > All sorted. We'll bring the camera along on Sat and Tina will film. > > Tom. Awesome. Thanks Tom :) Alwyn From tommo at ucc.asn.au Tue Aug 25 11:45:11 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:45:11 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final Message-ID: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> We appear to be playing at 2pm against Lakeside. Is everybody in? After the last game we gave some thought to how we wanted to play these guys in our next encounter. It's true that they beat us last week, but we need to remember that they won by just 2 points and we were missing both Kieron and Dave. We also lost to them by just 8 on the Terracon weekend when we were missing me, James and Chris, but we beat them by 3 in our first game, just a few weeks into grading. So it's not like they've demolished us in the past or anything. I think this team has 2 primary offensive threats - 3 point shooting and keyway penetration off the ball (either to receive a pass or establish rebounding position). If we limit them in these areas, I think we'll be set. As far as our offense goes, I think we're generally doing things well. The main thing I'd suggest is that we need to remember to get the ball right down into the deep wing area so we can set up the double post. And as usual - we just need to play calmly and not rush things. Anyway, I'll throw this open to everyone else. Any ideas on how we should take them on? Should we modify our defense? etc... Tom. From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Aug 25 15:02:08 2009 From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:02:08 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 11:45:11AM +0800, tommo at ucc.asn.au wrote: > We appear to be playing at 2pm against Lakeside. Is everybody in? > I plan to be. I am currenlty trying to organsise some logistics, as Jen has to be somewhere on the same tday at the same time. > After the last game we gave some thought to how we wanted to play > these guys in our next encounter. It's true that they beat us last > week, but we need to remember that they won by just 2 points and we > were missing both Kieron and Dave. We also lost to them by just 8 on > the Terracon weekend when we were missing me, James and Chris, but we > beat them by 3 in our first game, just a few weeks into grading. So > it's not like they've demolished us in the past or anything. > > I think this team has 2 primary offensive threats - 3 point shooting > and keyway penetration off the ball (either to receive a pass or > establish rebounding position). If we limit them in these areas, I > think we'll be set. a They got from my memory a few bounds off transition offence and intercepted passes. They are quite good at picking up passes past the guards in the air. We should try and bounce pass a bit against these guys. That said I have a sneaking suspicion they don't keep the ball as well. > > As far as our offense goes, I think we're generally doing things well. > The main thing I'd suggest is that we need to remember to get the ball > right down into the deep wing area so we can set up the double post. > And as usual - we just need to play calmly and not rush things. > > Anyway, I'll throw this open to everyone else. Any ideas on how we > should take them on? Should we modify our defense? etc... > > Tom. > > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball -- "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism, it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," - Wayne Norbitz From zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Aug 25 15:19:51 2009 From: zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alwyn Lloyd) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:19:51 +0800 (WST) Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: > > I plan to be. I am currenlty trying to organsise some logistics, as Jen has to be somewhere on the same tday at the same time. I plan to be there as well. If you need a lift Accy, let me know. Alwyn From tommo at ucc.asn.au Wed Aug 26 08:33:48 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 08:33:48 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20090826083348.63209hvc1809m034@secure.ucc.asn.au> Quoting "Andrew Bailey" : > They got from my memory a few bounds off transition offence and intercepted > passes. They are quite good at picking up passes past the guards in the air. > We should try and bounce pass a bit against these guys. That's a good point. They did get a few steals, and making more bounce passes - especially when passing into the post - is a good way to minimise that. And remember, if you're trying to pass around a defender the best thing to do is to make a big, long pivot step past their body, so that when you release the pass they're actually behind you. No trying to pass through/over opponents! Tom. From grubbcm at gmail.com Wed Aug 26 10:55:49 2009 From: grubbcm at gmail.com (Christopher Grubb) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:55:49 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: <20090826083348.63209hvc1809m034@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090826083348.63209hvc1809m034@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: DEFENSE They pretty much run a 4-1 offense (4 men out and 1 inside) and they don't really use that inside guy much unless he's wide, wide open down on the baseline, preferring to swing the ball, and/or pass to a cutter. We simply will not cover 4-men outside with just 2 guards. Especially as they are quite adept at skip-passes (throwing the ball from one side of the court to the open man on the other side) Our options would be 1) Go to a 2-3 or 1-3-1 zone (giving us 3 guys on the perimeter) 2) Stick with our usual 3-2 zone, but forwards MUST go out to the corners I've spoken to some of you about 1-3-1 being a legit option, but that does leave us open to baseline and backdoor cuts which they did reasonably well. I don't think we've ever played 2-3, so I'd rule that out purely for that reason if nothing else. Which leaves us with option #2. We will need our weak-side guard to sag inside and help out on rebounds when a forward goes out to guard the perimeter. (Think about how our wing players have to help out with rebounding when we are playing a 1-3-1, same deal.) Regardless of what defense we play we need to have good communication. Guards need to talk to each other so they know who is guarding the guy at the top of the key. Forwards need to talk to the guard in front of them so that both players on one side of the court know who is guarding who. Talk it up _before_ the ball moves to a problem area. The center needs to be telling the forward that they have the inside covered so the forward has confidence to get out to the corners. I think the best way of working this out is to actually have a bit of a walk-through on the basketball court before the game. So we can see what our defense looks like when one of our forwards goes out (ie where everyone else should be when that happens) OFFENSE * They like playing a press (trying to steal the ball off the guards before they're over half-way) ** So if you're on a wing, be prepared to help out getting the ball up the floor. ** This also means that if you aren't confident bringing the ball up under pressure that you need to give the ball off to someone who is ** Similarly if you're confident bringing the ball up, GO and get it! * They like playing 3 guards out ** This makes it harder to get the ball to the wings if they don't move (So move 2 meters away, then cut back, or move towards then away) ** This makes it easier for us to drive from the top of the key *** If we drive from the top, our wing in the corner should cut, and the post should roll towards the basket as soon as it is obvious that the guard is driving. * They overplay for steals ** Use fakes, bounce passes, and just trying to dribble the ball past them to make them accountable and actually play defense on you when you have the ball and not just have them sit off you and block your passing options. ** Again, this is why its important why our wings have to move if they want to get the ball. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:33 AM, wrote: > Quoting "Andrew Bailey" : > > > They got from my memory a few bounds off transition offence and > intercepted > > passes. They are quite good at picking up passes past the guards in the > air. > > We should try and bounce pass a bit against these guys. > > That's a good point. They did get a few steals, and making more bounce > passes - especially when passing into the post - is a good way to > minimise that. And remember, if you're trying to pass around a > defender the best thing to do is to make a big, long pivot step past > their body, so that when you release the pass they're actually behind > you. No trying to pass through/over opponents! > > Tom. > > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/basketball/attachments/20090826/57e0b8fc/attachment.htm From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Aug 26 11:23:48 2009 From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:23:48 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090826083348.63209hvc1809m034@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090826032347.GA26160@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 10:55:49AM +0800, Christopher Grubb wrote: > DEFENSE > > They pretty much run a 4-1 offense (4 men out and 1 inside) and they don't > really use that inside guy much unless he's wide, wide open down on the > baseline, preferring to swing the ball, and/or pass to a cutter. > > We simply will not cover 4-men outside with just 2 guards. Especially as > they are quite adept at skip-passes (throwing the ball from one side of the > court to the open man on the other side) > > Our options would be > 1) Go to a 2-3 or 1-3-1 zone (giving us 3 guys on the perimeter) > 2) Stick with our usual 3-2 zone, but forwards MUST go out to the corners > > I've spoken to some of you about 1-3-1 being a legit option, but that does > leave us open to baseline and backdoor cuts which they did reasonably well. > I don't think we've ever played 2-3, so I'd rule that out purely for that > reason if nothing else. Which leaves us with option #2. > > We will need our weak-side guard to sag inside and help out on rebounds when > a forward goes out to guard the perimeter. (Think about how our wing players > have to help out with rebounding when we are playing a 1-3-1, same deal.) > > Regardless of what defense we play we need to have good communication. > Guards need to talk to each other so they know who is guarding the guy at > the top of the key. Forwards need to talk to the guard in front of them so > that both players on one side of the court know who is guarding who. Talk it > up _before_ the ball moves to a problem area. The center needs to be telling > the forward that they have the inside covered so the forward has confidence > to get out to the corners. > > I think the best way of working this out is to actually have a bit of a > walk-through on the basketball court before the game. So we can see what our > defense looks like when one of our forwards goes out (ie where everyone else > should be when that happens) > Also from memory and this one may be wrong, I didn't think that their passing was especially tight. So keep an eye on the ball in defence. > OFFENSE > * They like playing a press (trying to steal the ball off the guards before > they're over half-way) > ** So if you're on a wing, be prepared to help out getting the ball up the > floor. > ** This also means that if you aren't confident bringing the ball up under > pressure that you need to give the ball off to someone who is > ** Similarly if you're confident bringing the ball up, GO and get it! > a I can come up and get the ball if I'm playing post. Also remember you can pass past a press. > * They like playing 3 guards out > ** This makes it harder to get the ball to the wings if they don't move (So > move 2 meters away, then cut back, or move towards then away) > ** This makes it easier for us to drive from the top of the key > *** If we drive from the top, our wing in the corner should cut, and the > post should roll towards the basket as soon as it is obvious that the guard > is driving. > > * They overplay for steals > ** Use fakes, bounce passes, and just trying to dribble the ball past them > to make them accountable and actually play defense on you when you have the > ball and not just have them sit off you and block your passing options. > ** Again, this is why its important why our wings have to move if they want > to get the ball. > > On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 8:33 AM, wrote: > > > Quoting "Andrew Bailey" : > > > > > They got from my memory a few bounds off transition offence and > > intercepted > > > passes. They are quite good at picking up passes past the guards in the > > air. > > > We should try and bounce pass a bit against these guys. > > > > That's a good point. They did get a few steals, and making more bounce > > passes - especially when passing into the post - is a good way to > > minimise that. And remember, if you're trying to pass around a > > defender the best thing to do is to make a big, long pivot step past > > their body, so that when you release the pass they're actually behind > > you. No trying to pass through/over opponents! > > > > Tom. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Basketball mailing list > > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball -- "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism, it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," - Wayne Norbitz From tommo at ucc.asn.au Fri Aug 28 11:40:08 2009 From: tommo at ucc.asn.au (tommo at ucc.asn.au) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:40:08 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: <20090826032347.GA26160@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090826083348.63209hvc1809m034@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090826032347.GA26160@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20090828114008.16936hebs8ov6lj4@secure.ucc.asn.au> One more thing - can we all make an effort to get there no later than 1:40? It'd be good to have some discussion time before we warm up. Tom. PS. Allstar teams are up on the website. Accy and I both got in. Go us :) From zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Aug 28 11:43:01 2009 From: zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alwyn Lloyd) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:43:01 +0800 (WST) Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: <20090828114008.16936hebs8ov6lj4@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090826083348.63209hvc1809m034@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090826032347.GA26160@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090828114008.16936hebs8ov6lj4@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: > > PS. Allstar teams are up on the website. Accy and I both got in. Go us :) > Nice work guys :) A From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Aug 28 11:49:09 2009 From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:49:09 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: <20090828114008.16936hebs8ov6lj4@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090826083348.63209hvc1809m034@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090826032347.GA26160@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090828114008.16936hebs8ov6lj4@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090828034909.GA24845@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:40:08AM +0800, tommo at ucc.asn.au wrote: > One more thing - can we all make an effort to get there no later than > 1:40? It'd be good to have some discussion time before we warm up. > Unfortunatly not. I've got to drop the kids off with their Grandparents before geting to basketball so I'll probably be a little bit later than that. Andrew > Tom. > > PS. Allstar teams are up on the website. Accy and I both got in. Go us :) > > _______________________________________________ > Basketball mailing list > Basketball at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/basketball -- "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism, it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," - Wayne Norbitz From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Aug 28 11:52:23 2009 From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey) Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 11:52:23 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090826083348.63209hvc1809m034@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090826032347.GA26160@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090828114008.16936hebs8ov6lj4@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090828035223.GB24845@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 11:43:01AM +0800, Alwyn Lloyd wrote: > > > > > PS. Allstar teams are up on the website. Accy and I both got in. Go us :) > > > > Nice work guys :) > > > A Oh wow that's really quite cool. -- "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism, it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," - Wayne Norbitz From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Aug 31 13:03:56 2009 From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey) Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:03:56 +0800 Subject: [UCCBball] Semi final In-Reply-To: References: <20090825114511.117809ys6yonmv60@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090825070208.GA23106@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090826083348.63209hvc1809m034@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20090826032347.GA26160@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20090828114008.16936hebs8ov6lj4@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20090831050356.GD24845@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Hey, Who wants to play in the summer comp? I will try and put in a nomination on Saturday but I need a list of names and contact details. I suggest that you reply to my address rather than the list as the list is public. Oh can someone forward this to Kieron please. Andrew. -- "The hot dog eating contest is not only a beautiful display of athleticism, it is a fundamental way for citizens of all nations to display patriotism," - Wayne Norbitz