[UCCBball] This weekend's game - offensive setup

Wed Mar 4 14:53:08 AWST 2009

I hope you don't mind me chiming in.

I actually don't think overloading one side is a problem as long as
everyone understands why they are doing it. Having all 4 on one side
against a standard zone should result in 3 defenders trying to guard 4
players. So the goal is to get:

A) An easy entry pass to low post (At which point the high post cuts
back to the opposite baseline)
  i) You have someone cutting through the key for the low post to pass
to
  ii) The cutter will likely draw the center, preventing a double-team
on the post
  iii) The cutter is moving to a good rebounding position

B) An easy pass to the near elbow (Low post should cut along the
baseline)
  i) You have a cutter (again moving to a good rebounding position)
  ii) Can shoot, or drive from the elbow.

C) An open shot from the corner
  i) Your team doesn't really get this option because nobody playing on
the wings is confident enough to shoot the shot.
  ii) If it was going to happen, high post should cut back to low post
to establish good rebounding position.
  iii) The opposite wing should also crash the boards
  iv) PG at the top is safety

At first glance it seems that you then lose the option to swing the
ball, but you don't as long as you have a wing that is prepared to move.
     ___
      O 5      3
               / 
        4     /
             /
  2 <------ 1

When you want to swing the ball from this set-up the ball should move
from 3 -> 1 -> 2 as shown above. 4 Cuts to opposite low post. Then 5
cuts to opposite high post and 3 has to run the baseline so that they
are open in the opposite corner. So you end up as below. 3 normally
signals the switch by passing it back to 1 and then sprinting for the
opposite corner.
         ___
3       4 O

        5

     2        1

Off the top of my head this would probably work best with either Oliver
or Kieron at the 3 position, as both have the confidence to take the
long shot from the corner.

As Tommo says, you don't want to run this every play. Your post
positions give few open lanes for either 1 or 2 to drive at. A shot from
the 1 (when loaded on the right) or 2 (when loaded on the left) gives
you horrible rebounding positions. There really aren't many nice options
for the 1 or 2 unless they are getting a kick-out pass from the post. 

-----Original Message-----
From: basketball-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au
[mailto:basketball-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] On Behalf Of Andrew Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, 4 March 2009 2:11 PM
To: UCC Basketball Mailing List
Subject: Re: [UCCBball] This weekend's game - offensive setup

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 01:59:03PM +0900, tommo at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote:
> Of course you can disagree.
> 

My biggest overall issue is that this lends itself to a 'quick' or
possibly rushed offense. I like us a bit better when we swing it down
both sides pretty quickley.

Rest of my comments inline:

> Quoting "Andrew Bailey" <acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>:
> 
> > On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 01:28:38PM +0900, tommo at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au
wrote:
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >
> > Am I allowed to disagree?
> >
> >> I wanted to test out a basic offensive setup for our last game,
just
> >> to see how it works. I think it'll help tighten up our ball
movement
> >> and get us a few more good shooting options. These things are
tricky
> >> to describe via email, but here's the gist of it...
> >>
> >> 1. We start out with the point guard at the top with the ball, with
> >> wings out to either side, and both big men (eg me and Accy) in the
> >> post position on either side of the keyway.
> >>

This is fine and sensible.

> >> 2. Now, usually when we start out like this, we begin with the
point
> >> passing straight to the wing. What I'd like to see us do is have
the
> >> point dribble the ball towards the wing area (either side).
> >>
> >> 3. When the point does this, the wing on the same side drifts down
> >> towards the bassline, and the forward on the other-side post cuts
up
> >> to the high post.
> >>a

This is the bit I don't like as it ruins our spacing. we end up with
four players on one side and an awful lot of congestion. In fact this a
lot of what we do at the moment when our offense isn't working. I don't
think we should aspire to shis structure. Especially as the week wing
should really come accross to the top a bit for an outlet pass.

>From my experience as a off side forward ( unless I am misunderstanding
what you mean by high post ) there realy is no room for me to cut too
and I am probably better off doing a V cut at best as aswing outlet or
something. 

> >> 4. From here, the point can pass either down to the bassline wing
(5a)
> >> or straight across into the high post (5b). If neither of these
> >> options prove to be viable, and the point gets into trouble, then
the
> >> other side wing should cut up to the top to provide a bail-out
option
> >> to reset the offense.
> >>
> >> 5a. If the pass goes to the bassline wing, then they have the
option
> >> to either shoot, drive or pass in to the low post up. A big reason
> >> we've been getting fewer good postups this season is because we
don't
> >> tend to move the ball far enough down towards the bassline for a
good
> >> passing angle. Hopefully this setup will fix that. If the pass does
go
> >> into the low post then the high post and the other-side wing should
> >> both cut in towards the hoop, creating passing options and extra
help
> >> for boards should the shot go up. Timing is important here - don't
cut
> >> until the post has turned to face the hoop, so they can see you.
> >>
> >> 5b. If the pass goes to the high post, then there's actually quite
a
> >> few options - shoot, drive, pass out to the other-side wing (either
> >> stationary or on a cut to the basket), pass straight back to the
> >> point, pass it down to the low post (a good play to do on the end
of a
> >> drive, as it'll draw the defense away from the low post), there
could
> >> even be a passing option for the bassline wing cutting to the
keyway.
> >> If the high post decides to either shoot or drive, it's important
for
> >> the other-side wing and the high post himself to go in hard for
boards.
> >>
> >> There's lots of little, unplanned things that can happen off this
> >> setup, but the basic structure is there. Most of it will come
pretty
> >> naturally, the important stuff to remember is the initial movement
-
> >> guard dribbles to side, wing drifts down to bassline, other-side
post
> >> cuts to high post.
> >>
> >> Did that make sense to everyone? If it didn't, say so and I'll try
to
> >> clarify. I'm thinking we can have a couple of practice runs before
the
> >> game, but if people have a reasonable understanding of it
beforehand
> >> then it'll be easier to set up on the day.
> >>
> >> I've also got an idea for tightening up our zone in defense, but
that
> >> can wait for another time. Don't want to overload everyone's brains
;)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Tom.
> >>
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