[UCCBball] Training this weekend

Tom Eitelhuber tom.eitelhuber at gmail.com
Wed Mar 13 12:24:52 AWST 2019


Hi team,

Unfortunately gmail isn't loading most of Chris' images, so I'm going
mostly off text here. Happy to try out anything you're suggesting, though.

The main drills I'd like to practice are really any that focus on the
following:
* Screens involving the slot and the wing
* Inside-outside-inside movement via the high post (e.g. pass to high post,
swing back out to wing, centre drops down and establishes a very deep post
up, one of the other positions cuts to high post, wing dribbles in and
looks at the two passing options)
* More drills like last session where you're deciding whether to drive,
pass or shoot based on the defenders decision, particularly where the
starting position of the drill resembles our standard rotation

I do like the idea of any variations that push us deeper into the corner
and encourage a low post, since those are two of my favourite places to
work from :) I also recall us doing this sort of thing more in previous
offensive rotations and on Wednesdays, and I think it is a shortcoming of
our current offense that we rarely get into that space. However, I'm wary
in general of working more on set rotations, since I think our biggest
weakness is our inability to think on the fly once there's an opportunity
to score.

Looking forward to it - see you all on Saturday.

Cheers,
Tom

On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 1:57 AM Chas Stan-Bishop <chas at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
wrote:

>
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, Christopher Grubb wrote:
>
> > We could also do top or side pick and rolls?
>
> We should definitely do this at some point, but I don't know if it should
> be our first priority. I could be persuaded though.
>
> > So we run a 4-out, 1-in high post offense. We have the post player, 2
> wings,
> > and one name for the 2 guys at the top is the "slot". Seems to me that
> the
> > only pass we make that doesn't result in some motion is a slot-to-slot
> pass.
> >
> > If others agree, then its probably something to practice (see diagram
> below,
> > even though it shows 5 in the wrong position)
>
> That motion is actually something that I had in the original design of our
> current offence (mostly because it's part of Read and React Layer 1,
> IIRC), but I think Tommo convinced me/we decided that it would add
> complexity without much benefit. We could certainly try it, now that we've
> got the basics down, but my concern these days is that it would add energy
> expenditure for possibly not a huge amount of benefit. ;P
>
>
> > From the same page we could also take a look at the Slot to Wing dribble
> at
> > back cut for situations where the wing pass is getting taken away...
> again
> > our 5 is normally at the free throw line, but it still works to at least
> get
> > us and the defense moving, and is better than just passing back and
> forth at
> > the top.
>
> I think that might also be part of R&R L1. :P
> We probably need _something_ like this, if only for when we face a man
> defence. The other option that's been discussed is a dribble hand-off. I
> don't know which is likely to create more defensive confusion, but I guess
> the back-cut when dribbled at might be a better skill to practice first.
>
> > Alternate Zone Offense
> <snip>
> > This isn't that much different from what we already run. It just has the
> > guard continuing through to the strong corner. The post then cuts into
> the
> > strong-side low post, and the weak-side wing cuts into high post.
>
> IIRC, we actually used to run something similar to this. It might have
> migrated to the Wednesday team from the Claremont/UCC team?
>
> > I actually disagree with 2 having to fill for 1 as 1 dribbles across the
> > top.... they've already made a cut, 4 should stop being lazy and follow
> > their pass. Either way the offense is now ready to be run on the other
> side
> > of the floor.
>
> The main difference with what we ran (again, IIRC) is that rather than 1
> dribbling across for reversal, 1 passed to 3, and 2 made the long cut
> all the way to the weak side for the swing. It was rather slow, and the
> defence never really got flustered. They knew we couldn't shoot from the
> corner, so the overload there never really accomplished much. They just
> played a box and 1 on Tommo the whole game. :/
>
> Reversal via dribble might make a difference, but it might also require us
> to be able to dribble either direction under pressure. I'm also still not
> sure how much it would add for us, given how many of our players don't
> threaten on that corner three, which is what really causes the overload to
> tear up zones.
>
> I mean, it would certainly do everything our current offence does, since
> it has similar spacing and movement, but the main things it adds are:
> 1) an additional perimeter shooter - questionble additional benefit;
> either the forward comes out or he doesn't. I doubt that any team we play
> is going to rotate all the way around to cover every perimeter threat.
> 2) a sneakier high post option, but one that might slow our reversal.
>
> I could probably be convinced though. *shrug*
>
> As for various drill, I'm sure just about anything we run that involves a
> defender and passing will make us better, so I'll probably be happy
> whatever. :P
> The closer to in-game sistuations the better though.
>
> Chas
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