From pabx-reports at ucs.uwa.edu.au Tue Mar 1 09:27:03 2011 From: pabx-reports at ucs.uwa.edu.au (pabx-reports at ucs.uwa.edu.au) Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 09:27:03 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] [PABX] Group Summary - PDF Message-ID: <20110301012703.D8DC68B339@new-charon.its.uwa.edu.au> An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available Url: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110301/caff93d9/attachment.txt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Bob [1] http://webcam.ucc.asn.au/archive.html#1299041588000 From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Mar 3 20:35:30 2011 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson) Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:35:30 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Drinks Run In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hey guys, this is something I want to sort out *ASAP*, I need money, and trivial stuff like this ought to be sorted out before the AGM. Can you please email the list with your approval. Bob On Wed, 2 Mar 2011, Bob Adamson wrote: > The Mountain of Coke (TM) that appeared in the clubroom earlier[1] is now > even more awesome because it cost 2^8 dollars. The unfortunate thing about > that is that it's $56 more than I can spend without automatic approval. > So...can I please get approval for $256 reimbursement for the coke run? > > Bob > > [1] http://webcam.ucc.asn.au/archive.html#1299041588000 > From tpg at ucc.asn.au Thu Mar 3 23:18:45 2011 From: tpg at ucc.asn.au (John Hodge) Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 23:18:45 +0800 Subject: [committee] Drinks Run In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D6FB155.5000208@ucc.asn.au> I'm all for it, upon presentation of receipt (My vote was influenced by the Mountain of Coke (TM)) John Hodge [TPG] 2010 Ordinary Committee Member On 02/03/11 13:59, Bob Adamson wrote: > The Mountain of Coke (TM) that appeared in the clubroom earlier[1] is now > even more awesome because it cost 2^8 dollars. The unfortunate thing about > that is that it's $56 more than I can spend without automatic approval. > So...can I please get approval for $256 reimbursement for the coke run? > > Bob > > [1] http://webcam.ucc.asn.au/archive.html#1299041588000 From prothoss at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Mar 5 21:00:19 2011 From: prothoss at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Conrad Pogson) Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2011 21:00:19 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] AGM - Apologies and Nomination Message-ID: Hi All, Unfortunately I have work on Tuesday so I will not be able to attend the AGM. Could one of the other committee members please volunteer to take the minutes (and let me/the rest of committee know, I will email through a report). I would also like to nominate myself for the position of secretary on the 2011 committee. Failing that, I would also like to nominate myself for OCM. Regards, Conrad Pogson UCC Secretary From nabs_shaw at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Mar 7 18:25:25 2011 From: nabs_shaw at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (nabs_shaw at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 18:25:25 +0800 Subject: [committee] AGM Apologies. Message-ID: <20110307182525.99774e5e8kx1vla8@secure.ucc.asn.au> Regrettably, I will be unable to attend the AGM tomorrow until 2pm at the earliest, and so I imagine I will miss most if not all of the proceedings. I hope despite this all goes swimmingly and that my lack of presence will not cause profound issues. Nathan. From bob at ucc.asn.au Mon Mar 7 22:41:20 2011 From: bob at ucc.asn.au (Bob Adamson) Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 22:41:20 +0800 Subject: [committee] Financial Report Message-ID: <3B9B0036430E4216BD81EA5CD77306F7@Prometheus> Attached is the balance sheet for the current financial year (Jan 1 onwards) for the AGM. Other than the guild account printout, there is no real record of how much was spent/received last year, but my report will include some general totals. Bob -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110307/fab1a45f/attachment-0001.htm -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: UCC 2011 balance sheet.pdf Type: application/octet-stream Size: 38116 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110307/fab1a45f/attachment-0001.obj From danielax at gmail.com Tue Mar 8 17:10:28 2011 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel Axtens) Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 17:10:28 +0800 Subject: [committee] Cameron Hall stairwell painting Message-ID: <49800B66-1334-4DAC-9299-7B514A2B40BD@gmail.com> Hi all, You're receiving this because you're (hopefully!) on the committee of some Cameron Hall clubs. If you're not on the executive, please pass it on to your exec asap! Thanks! As you've hopefully noticed, the Cameron Hall stairwell walls were repainted (in the same colour as they were originally) in time for O'Day. Two UCC members came in and painted the walls during a weekend before O'Day, so as to improve the appearance of the building for incoming first years of all the CH clubs. We trust you'll be thrilled with the work that's been done by our club for the benefit of all our clubs. We'll be seeking that the Tenancy Committee reimburse the cost of the materials: about $170. This represents a massive saving compared to how much it would cost the Guild to have it done commercially. We'd love your support on this! Please let us know what you think. You can either contact our committee at committee at ucc.asn.au, or me personally on 0422 550 758. We look forward to working with you this year to keep Cameron Hall in tip-top condition! Best regards, Daniel Axtens UCC Tenancy Committee Delegate UCC OCM 2011 From danielax at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 13:06:32 2011 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel Axtens) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 13:06:32 +0800 Subject: [committee] The Stairwell and SOC situation Message-ID: Hi all, My apologies for not formally bringing this to your attention earlier. As with my email regarding the constitution, every paragraph is ended with a tl;dr one line summary. As you're hopefully aware, Matt and Bob repainted the main Cameron Hall stairwell just before ODay. The walls were repainted in the same colour as they were originally. This painting was done with the knowledge and approval of relevant guild staff: a senior guild staff member gave Matt and Bob key access for the weekend in order to undertake the work. => tl;dr: Matt and Bob repainted the Cameron Hall stairwell. The Guild president was notified of our intention to paint. This intention was passed on to SOC[1], and to the best of our knowledge, the Tenancy Committee[2]. The SOC president acknowledged our intention by email and said it would be placed on Tenancy Committee agenda. However, no tenancy committee meeting was held before O'Day. The SOC president's email did not evince any obvious objections. => tl;dr: The tenancy committee knew we wanted to repaint, but because there was no meeting, didn't formally approve it. The SOC president has taken issue with us for not getting their full approval. We have had some discussion with the SOC president by email. We have brought to her attention the following points: [3] - The club had an honest and reasonable belief that its acts were permitted as a result of the actions of Guild staff - The club was acting in the interests of the Guild and all tenants - The act was, we argue, not breach of the Tenancy Agreement - The act was in accordance with the spirit of the agreement As such, we politely asked for the issue to be dropped, however, the SOC president was unwilling to do this. => tl;dr: We believe SOC is being a bit excessive. However, they're not willing to drop it. The issue will be formally discussed at a meeting of the Tenancy committee tomorrow (Thursday). I will be representing the club. We will *not* be in the business of attacking SOC or the tenancy committee, but rather in defusing the situation. I will update the club on the progress of the meeting in due course. => tl;dr: There's a formal meeting which will discuss it tomorrow - hopefully we will be able to defuse the situation then. In the mean time, please be aware that this is a sensitive situation. PLEASE DO NOT discuss it on your favourite social network. PLEASE DO NOT harass anyone in the Guild, SOC, or the Tenancy Committee. PLEASE DO NOT do anything that would make our lives harder. Please contact me if you have any questions. Best regards, Daniel Axtens [1] SOC = Societies Council, the Guild sub-council in charge of clubs and societies. UCC is SOC affiliated. SOC gives us grants and is in some stage of the hierarchy about clubroom allocations. [2] Tenancy Committee = the long-invisible committee charged with clubroom and building upkeep, etc. The initial group responsible for clubroom allocations, etc. [3] If anyone is interested in the full details of SOC objections, our response, the tenancy agreement, etc. please contact me directly. From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Mar 9 17:02:58 2011 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:02:58 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Harry McNally wrote: > On 09/03/11 13:00, Bob Adamson wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > There's an auction coming up TOMORROW at Ross's[1], where some new 3kVA > > Liebert PS3000RT-230 UPS's are going to be auctioned. If possible, I would > > like to get one of these for the club, as well as an extra battery unit. > > They are 2RU rack mount with 15 plugs - which will mean that we would be > > buying it with no guarantee that we can power it. Mark Tearle tells me the > > addition of another 15A socket in the machine room will cost around $500. > > > > I don't have any experience with UPS's - has anyone on the list used these > > before and can tell us if they're crap or not? Also, can anyone suggest > > how much we should be bidding on them? > > Hi Bob > > I think Liebert is a pretty good brand. > > I don't have any experience with this unit but if they are unused but > manufactured some time ago then I think the batteries will have rotted. I'd > find out the generic type and cost of batteries and bid based on replacing the > batteries if the units are maybe three years old or later. > > The UPS isn't something to rely on if it's uncertain that it will hold up > under load. > > If previous discussion is right and they go for $150 or similar then > re-battery still makes them a well priced unit. A new 15A outlet sounds like a > larger part of the cost! > > > [1]http://www.auctions.com.au/auctions/2011/03/10/massive-it-clearance-auction-including-imac-core-2-macbook-hp-printers-and-cisco-equipment.html#672 I checked them out this arvo and they are new in box. As Harry suggested, they are several years old. Each unit has a matching expansion battery shelf (as separate lots) which boosts the running time at max load from 6 minutes to 29 minutes. I think that would be worth getting if we can. I wasn't able to take the covers off them to see the exact battery model, but the manual says they take 6 standard 12V 9Ah CSB batteries. Judging from the cost of the last set of batteries we bought for the SAN UPS, I think a new set would cost ~$250. The 'technician' at Ross's estimates the UPS's will go for ~$200 each. I think they will go for less. Committee: can I please have approval to bid up to a total of $400 for a controller and expansion shelf? Bob Adamson UCC President |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous | |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" | | ---Peter's Laws | From 20251435 at student.uwa.edu.au Wed Mar 9 17:28:32 2011 From: 20251435 at student.uwa.edu.au (Raymond Maujean) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:28:32 +0800 Subject: [committee] Cameron Hall stairwell painting In-Reply-To: <49800B66-1334-4DAC-9299-7B514A2B40BD@gmail.com> References: <49800B66-1334-4DAC-9299-7B514A2B40BD@gmail.com> Message-ID: Gday Daniel, I was talking to Henry in guild finance today and he told me about the situation. According to him, the original quote for getting the stairwell repainted was something like $3k. You guys have done a fantastic job with repainting the stairwell, and we're more than happy to support you with getting reimbursed for the material costs. I will be present at the tenancy meeting tomorrow, so it might be an idea to bring it up then. Let us know if you need anything in particular. Cheers, Ray Maujean President of Leisure Social Club 0434 838 717 On 8 March 2011 17:10, Daniel Axtens wrote: > Hi all, > > You're receiving this because you're (hopefully!) on the committee of some > Cameron Hall clubs. If you're not on the executive, please pass it on to > your exec asap! Thanks! > > As you've hopefully noticed, the Cameron Hall stairwell walls were > repainted (in the same colour as they were originally) in time for O'Day. > Two UCC members came in and painted the walls during a weekend before O'Day, > so as to improve the appearance of the building for incoming first years of > all the CH clubs. > > We trust you'll be thrilled with the work that's been done by our club for > the benefit of all our clubs. > > We'll be seeking that the Tenancy Committee reimburse the cost of the > materials: about $170. This represents a massive saving compared to how much > it would cost the Guild to have it done commercially. We'd love your support > on this! Please let us know what you think. You can either contact our > committee at committee at ucc.asn.au, or me personally on 0422 550 758. > > We look forward to working with you this year to keep Cameron Hall in > tip-top condition! > > Best regards, > Daniel Axtens > UCC Tenancy Committee Delegate > UCC OCM 2011 > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110309/5a6f3fd3/attachment.htm From mitch at ucc.asn.au Wed Mar 9 17:19:59 2011 From: mitch at ucc.asn.au (Mitch Kelly (UCC)) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:19:59 +0800 Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> Message-ID: <001c01cbde3b$29dff150$7d9fd3f0$@asn.au> Chances are if they have been sitting for that long the batters are sulphated and will be useless. Im 50/50 on getting them as the batteries will cost a fortune to replace. Shelf life of a SLA that is sitting not being used/charged is only about 9 months at absolute most. -----Original Message----- From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] On Behalf Of Bob Adamson Sent: Wednesday, 9 March 2011 5:03 PM To: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Cc: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Subject: Re: [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS On Wed, 9 Mar 2011, Harry McNally wrote: > On 09/03/11 13:00, Bob Adamson wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > There's an auction coming up TOMORROW at Ross's[1], where some new 3kVA > > Liebert PS3000RT-230 UPS's are going to be auctioned. If possible, I would > > like to get one of these for the club, as well as an extra battery unit. > > They are 2RU rack mount with 15 plugs - which will mean that we would be > > buying it with no guarantee that we can power it. Mark Tearle tells me the > > addition of another 15A socket in the machine room will cost around $500. > > > > I don't have any experience with UPS's - has anyone on the list used these > > before and can tell us if they're crap or not? Also, can anyone suggest > > how much we should be bidding on them? > > Hi Bob > > I think Liebert is a pretty good brand. > > I don't have any experience with this unit but if they are unused but > manufactured some time ago then I think the batteries will have rotted. I'd > find out the generic type and cost of batteries and bid based on replacing the > batteries if the units are maybe three years old or later. > > The UPS isn't something to rely on if it's uncertain that it will hold up > under load. > > If previous discussion is right and they go for $150 or similar then > re-battery still makes them a well priced unit. A new 15A outlet sounds like a > larger part of the cost! > > > [1]http://www.auctions.com.au/auctions/2011/03/10/massive-it-clearance-aucti on-including-imac-core-2-macbook-hp-printers-and-cisco-equipment.html#672 I checked them out this arvo and they are new in box. As Harry suggested, they are several years old. Each unit has a matching expansion battery shelf (as separate lots) which boosts the running time at max load from 6 minutes to 29 minutes. I think that would be worth getting if we can. I wasn't able to take the covers off them to see the exact battery model, but the manual says they take 6 standard 12V 9Ah CSB batteries. Judging from the cost of the last set of batteries we bought for the SAN UPS, I think a new set would cost ~$250. The 'technician' at Ross's estimates the UPS's will go for ~$200 each. I think they will go for less. Committee: can I please have approval to bid up to a total of $400 for a controller and expansion shelf? Bob Adamson UCC President |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous | |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" | | ---Peter's Laws | From danielax at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 17:57:40 2011 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel Axtens) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 17:57:40 +0800 Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> Message-ID: >>> There's an auction coming up TOMORROW at Ross's[1], where some new 3kVA >>> Liebert PS3000RT-230 UPS's are going to be auctioned. If possible, I would >>> like to get one of these for the club, as well as an extra battery unit. >>> They are 2RU rack mount with 15 plugs - which will mean that we would be >>> buying it with no guarantee that we can power it. Mark Tearle tells me the >>> addition of another 15A socket in the machine room will cost around $500. I know we're massive fans of uprecords here at UCC, but I don't know if spending $700-$900ish to prevent power dropouts is a value for money for the club. Having said that, what is the likely impact of power fluctuations on the lifespan of our equipment? -- d From danielax at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 18:20:05 2011 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel Axtens) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:20:05 +0800 Subject: [committee] The Stairwell and SOC situation In-Reply-To: <20110309082940.GA31619@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20110309082940.GA31619@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <72F45AB9-330A-45C8-BAC5-06951007D17C@gmail.com> Ben, You raise a question that is probably of interest and relevant to everyone on the committee list. I hope you don't mind me cc:ing them in. > I'm curious what exactly SOC council would/will/can do about it? > > Regards, > Ben Rampling The short answer is "Me too." The SOC president hasn't specified what she wishes to happen. I'm also not able to answer with confidence because, due to the way this dispute has been handled on the part of SOC/Tenancy Committee, we're in a somewhat anomalous situation: - the body considering the situation tomorrow is the Tenancy Committee, not SOC. One would normally have expected to be contacted by the chair of the Tenancy Committee (not the SOC president) about tenancy issues. As it is, we've received no communication from the chair. The SOC president does, however, sit on the tenancy committee. Make of all that what you will: I don't know what to think of it. - the tenancy committee is not, as far as I can tell, following the grievance procedure laid out in the 2001 Tenancy Agreement for dealing with alleged breaches. Under the agreement, the penalties aren't available until a club is given an opportunity to rectify the breach. I'm not quite sure how we would do that. So I'm not sure if they'll be seeking to rely on the penalties available to them under that agreement. In theory, if the issue is escalated to SOC (the tenancy committee is a SOC sub-committee), their powers are laid out in the SOC rules.[1] I guess I'll know after the meeting tomorrow! Best regards, Daniel Axtens [1] http://www.guild.uwa.edu.au/home/subcouncils2/soc/rules?pageid=6469 From stryker at tpgi.com.au Wed Mar 9 19:09:08 2011 From: stryker at tpgi.com.au (Christopher Bobridge) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:09:08 +0800 Subject: [committee] The Stairwell and SOC situation In-Reply-To: <72F45AB9-330A-45C8-BAC5-06951007D17C@gmail.com> References: <20110309082940.GA31619@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <72F45AB9-330A-45C8-BAC5-06951007D17C@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's been a while and this probably highlights how much Tenancy Committee met when I was Soc VP, but am I correct in remembering that's a Soc VP role? Chris On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Daniel Axtens wrote: > Ben, > > You raise a question that is probably of interest and relevant to everyone > on the committee list. I hope you don't mind me cc:ing them in. > > > I'm curious what exactly SOC council would/will/can do about it? > > > > Regards, > > Ben Rampling > > The short answer is "Me too." > > The SOC president hasn't specified what she wishes to happen. I'm also not > able to answer with confidence because, due to the way this dispute has been > handled on the part of SOC/Tenancy Committee, we're in a somewhat anomalous > situation: > > - the body considering the situation tomorrow is the Tenancy Committee, > not SOC. One would normally have expected to be contacted by the chair of > the Tenancy Committee (not the SOC president) about tenancy issues. As it > is, we've received no communication from the chair. The SOC president does, > however, sit on the tenancy committee. Make of all that what you will: I > don't know what to think of it. > > - the tenancy committee is not, as far as I can tell, following the > grievance procedure laid out in the 2001 Tenancy Agreement for dealing with > alleged breaches. Under the agreement, the penalties aren't available until > a club is given an opportunity to rectify the breach. I'm not quite sure how > we would do that. So I'm not sure if they'll be seeking to rely on the > penalties available to them under that agreement. > > In theory, if the issue is escalated to SOC (the tenancy committee is a SOC > sub-committee), their powers are laid out in the SOC rules.[1] > > I guess I'll know after the meeting tomorrow! > > Best regards, > Daniel Axtens > > [1] http://www.guild.uwa.edu.au/home/subcouncils2/soc/rules?pageid=6469 > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110309/9ce3e831/attachment.htm From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Mar 9 19:12:45 2011 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 19:12:45 +0800 Subject: [committee] The Stairwell and SOC situation In-Reply-To: References: <20110309082940.GA31619@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <72F45AB9-330A-45C8-BAC5-06951007D17C@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi Chris, The Guild Council have elected a representative from the group of ordinary guild councillors to be the Chair of the Tenancy Committee. It may well have been the SOC VPs role back in the day, but I couldn't speak on that given in the last three years, I've not seen the committee meet once. Regards, Matt On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 7:09 PM, Christopher Bobridge wrote: > It's been a while and this probably highlights how much Tenancy Committee > met when I was Soc VP, but am I correct in remembering that's a Soc VP role? > > Chris > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Daniel Axtens wrote: >> >> Ben, >> >> You raise a question that is probably of interest and relevant to everyone >> on the committee list. I hope you don't mind me cc:ing them in. >> >> > I'm curious what exactly SOC council would/will/can do about it? >> > >> > Regards, >> > Ben Rampling >> >> The short answer is "Me too." >> >> The SOC president hasn't specified what she wishes to happen. I'm also not >> able to answer with confidence because, due to the way this dispute has been >> handled on the part of SOC/Tenancy Committee, we're in a somewhat anomalous >> situation: >> >> ?- the body considering the situation tomorrow is the Tenancy Committee, >> not SOC. One would normally have expected to be contacted by the chair of >> the Tenancy Committee (not the SOC president) about tenancy issues. As it >> is, we've received no communication from the chair. The SOC president does, >> however, sit on the tenancy committee. Make of all that what you will: I >> don't know what to think of it. >> >> ?- the tenancy committee is not, as far as I can tell, following the >> grievance procedure laid out in the 2001 Tenancy Agreement for dealing with >> alleged breaches. Under the agreement, the penalties aren't available until >> a club is given an opportunity to rectify the breach. I'm not quite sure how >> we would do that. So I'm not sure if they'll be seeking to rely on the >> penalties available to them under that agreement. >> >> In theory, if the issue is escalated to SOC (the tenancy committee is a >> SOC sub-committee), their powers are laid out in the SOC rules.[1] >> >> I guess I'll know after the meeting tomorrow! >> >> Best regards, >> Daniel Axtens >> >> [1] http://www.guild.uwa.edu.au/home/subcouncils2/soc/rules?pageid=6469 >> >> > > From danielax at gmail.com Wed Mar 9 22:53:59 2011 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel Axtens) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 22:53:59 +0800 Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: <4D7759F3.7070508@decisions-and-designs.com.au> References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <4D7759F3.7070508@decisions-and-designs.com.au> Message-ID: <881BEB35-0835-4863-87C9-C27A7826C2E9@gmail.com> > Hi Daniel > > That is a point to consider but we have a dinky little UPS on each CPU box > (only, not screens) here and the main benefit is carrying the gear across very > short disturbances. The UPS jumps in, runs on battery for it's obligatory 5 > seconds until the power looks stable again, and returns the supply to mains. > > What is saves in hassle more than compensates for the little bit of power it > uses. I think if the Ross' bid can secure the UPSes and extended battery boxes > (buyers for them alone are less likely) then, even if only the main unit was > re-stocked with batteries (and the other left unused) the 6 minute run time > will cover the main situation of very short disturbances. > > We've set up nut here (tho I haven't done that yet for the replacement > CompuGuard 650 I purchased the other day) so the system runs 90 seconds on > battery and shuts down. Nut can also communicate across multiple machines > running on one (or several) UPS to sequentially shut down systems. I selected > 90 seconds because it was more about preserving file system integrity (and > file recovery from vim etc) than trying to run the system across the outage. > This gets back to your original lifespan question; it's not about uprecords > for us. > > For the UPS' sake, running only for 90 seconds doesn't take the battery > anywhere near to the UPS' "discharged battery" threshold which, for these > small SLA batteries, kills them without too many cycles to flat. I suspect the > UPS manufactures underrate the battery and are relying on the idea that most > power losses are short. This is one of the best thought-out responses I've received to anything this year. Thanks Harry. I've also been told on IRC that we do have machines dying due to power issues, and that, to [BOB] at least, not having to rebuild his screen session is worth $1000. I now think the project is one that should be done with the part-member/part-club structure used for motsugo, and countless other projects. (So, Bob, I'm sure that you'll be the first person lining up to donate!) I endorse the motion to purchase. [DJA] From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Mar 9 23:46:16 2011 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 23:46:16 +0800 Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: <881BEB35-0835-4863-87C9-C27A7826C2E9@gmail.com> References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <4D7759F3.7070508@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <881BEB35-0835-4863-87C9-C27A7826C2E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20110309234616.167976z432n25wcg@secure.ucc.asn.au> I also endorse this [SZM] Quoting Daniel Axtens : >> Hi Daniel >> >> That is a point to consider but we have a dinky little UPS on each CPU box >> (only, not screens) here and the main benefit is carrying the gear >> across very >> short disturbances. The UPS jumps in, runs on battery for it's obligatory 5 >> seconds until the power looks stable again, and returns the supply to mains. >> >> What is saves in hassle more than compensates for the little bit of power it >> uses. I think if the Ross' bid can secure the UPSes and extended >> battery boxes >> (buyers for them alone are less likely) then, even if only the main unit was >> re-stocked with batteries (and the other left unused) the 6 minute run time >> will cover the main situation of very short disturbances. >> >> We've set up nut here (tho I haven't done that yet for the replacement >> CompuGuard 650 I purchased the other day) so the system runs 90 seconds on >> battery and shuts down. Nut can also communicate across multiple machines >> running on one (or several) UPS to sequentially shut down systems. >> I selected >> 90 seconds because it was more about preserving file system integrity (and >> file recovery from vim etc) than trying to run the system across the outage. >> This gets back to your original lifespan question; it's not about uprecords >> for us. >> >> For the UPS' sake, running only for 90 seconds doesn't take the battery >> anywhere near to the UPS' "discharged battery" threshold which, for these >> small SLA batteries, kills them without too many cycles to flat. I >> suspect the >> UPS manufactures underrate the battery and are relying on the idea that most >> power losses are short. > > This is one of the best thought-out responses I've received to > anything this year. Thanks Harry. > > I've also been told on IRC that we do have machines dying due to > power issues, and that, to [BOB] at least, not having to rebuild his > screen session is worth $1000. > > I now think the project is one that should be done with the > part-member/part-club structure used for motsugo, and countless > other projects. (So, Bob, I'm sure that you'll be the first person > lining up to donate!) > > I endorse the motion to purchase. > > [DJA] > > From dunc+wheel at dunc.org Wed Mar 9 23:53:10 2011 From: dunc+wheel at dunc.org (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 16:53:10 +0100 Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: <881BEB35-0835-4863-87C9-C27A7826C2E9@gmail.com> References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <4D7759F3.7070508@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <881BEB35-0835-4863-87C9-C27A7826C2E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: 2011/3/9 Daniel Axtens > > For the UPS' sake, running only for 90 seconds doesn't take the battery > > anywhere near to the UPS' "discharged battery" threshold which, for these > > small SLA batteries, kills them without too many cycles to flat. I > suspect the > > UPS manufactures underrate the battery and are relying on the idea that > most > > power losses are short. > > This is one of the best thought-out responses I've received to anything > this year. Thanks Harry. > > I've also been told on IRC that we do have machines dying due to power > issues, and that, to [BOB] at least, not having to rebuild his screen > session is worth $1000. > What are you guys trying to achieve? Power conditioning, 2 min uptime, 30 min uptime, or longer? A well-maintained UPS can be expensive to run. The equation is something like: purchase cost + electrical install + 2-yearly battery replace/dispose + service costs. OK, so you can skimp on the last two, but - and I'm hazy on this - dying lead acid batteries will just suck charge continually while not actually charging. But if it is a (more expensive) double conversion UPS (AC-DC-AC), it will make a nice, but warm, power conditioner. I'd get a quote for the extra circuit, because it may not be trivial if they don't have capacity upstream. My experience with UPSs is that sometimes it is better to have multiple small ones than one big one. They are more disposable, and operating on common 10A circuits makes the electrics much cheaper (you can also get yourself into trouble with overloading easier, I guess). Liebert is a good brand but even their service guys warned me that like everyone, they make crappy consumer models too. One thing I would stay away from are modular UPSs. APC and Liebert make them where you can hotswap PSUs in and out - the general wisdom is that the hardwired ones are more reliable (hotswap batteries are fine). I just specced and installed them for a while, hopefully this post will attract comments from others more clued into electricals :) ,dunc -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110309/89d10fa0/attachment.htm From mattman at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 08:38:08 2011 From: mattman at gmail.com (Matt) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:38:08 +0800 Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <4D7759F3.7070508@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <881BEB35-0835-4863-87C9-C27A7826C2E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: As I said in #committee this morning, I've been a strong advocate of UCC getting a UPS for some time - some people have however, raised very valid concerns. While post sitting on this one would be nice, given I'm in two minds, I'm going to provide my approval for the purchase at this time on the proviso that the batteries aren't going to require immediate replacement (hopefully you can talk to someone at Ross' about that Bob). I'll speak to Henry today about the procedure for getting a more formal quote out of FM for a 15A socket. I'd like to thank those who have weighed in both here and on IRC - its good to see thorough discussion around the purchase :) [MRD] On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Duncan Sargeant wrote: > 2011/3/9 Daniel Axtens >> >> > For the UPS' sake, running only for 90 seconds doesn't take the battery >> > anywhere near to the UPS' "discharged battery" threshold which, for >> > these >> > small SLA batteries, kills them without too many cycles to flat. I >> > suspect the >> > UPS manufactures underrate the battery and are relying on the idea that >> > most >> > power losses are short. >> >> This is one of the best thought-out responses I've received to anything >> this year. Thanks Harry. >> >> I've also been told on IRC that we do have machines dying due to power >> issues, and that, to [BOB] at least, not having to rebuild his screen >> session is worth $1000. > > What are you guys trying to achieve? ?Power conditioning, 2 min uptime, 30 > min uptime, or longer? > A well-maintained UPS can be expensive to run. ?The equation is something > like: purchase cost + electrical install + 2-yearly battery replace/dispose > + service costs. > OK, so you can skimp on the last two, but - and I'm hazy on this - dying > lead acid batteries will just suck charge continually while not actually > charging. ?But if it is a (more expensive) double conversion UPS (AC-DC-AC), > it will make a nice, but warm, power conditioner. > I'd get a quote for the extra circuit, because it may not be trivial if they > don't have capacity upstream. > My experience with UPSs is that sometimes it is better to have multiple > small ones than one big one. ?They are more disposable, and operating on > common 10A circuits makes the electrics much cheaper (you can also get > yourself into trouble with overloading easier, I guess). ?Liebert is a good > brand but even their service guys warned me that like everyone, they make > crappy consumer models too. ?One thing I would stay away from are modular > UPSs. ?APC and Liebert make them where you can hotswap PSUs in and out - the > general wisdom is that the hardwired ones are more reliable (hotswap > batteries are fine). > I just specced and installed them for a while, hopefully this post will > attract comments from others more clued into electricals :) > ,dunc From mattman at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 08:39:27 2011 From: mattman at gmail.com (Matt) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 08:39:27 +0800 Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <4D7759F3.7070508@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <881BEB35-0835-4863-87C9-C27A7826C2E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry for the double reply, got distracted by a fresher! You can't spend more than $400 - please keep that in mind as you bid. -Matt [MRD] On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Matt wrote: > As I said in #committee this morning, I've been a strong advocate of > UCC getting a UPS for some time - some people have however, raised > very valid concerns. > > While post sitting on this one would be nice, given I'm in two minds, > I'm going to provide my approval for the purchase at this time on the > proviso that the batteries aren't going to require immediate > replacement (hopefully you can talk to someone at Ross' about that > Bob). > > I'll speak to Henry today about the procedure for getting a more > formal quote out of FM for a 15A socket. > > I'd like to thank those who have weighed in both here and on IRC - its > good to see thorough discussion around the purchase :) > > [MRD] > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Duncan Sargeant wrote: >> 2011/3/9 Daniel Axtens >>> >>> > For the UPS' sake, running only for 90 seconds doesn't take the battery >>> > anywhere near to the UPS' "discharged battery" threshold which, for >>> > these >>> > small SLA batteries, kills them without too many cycles to flat. I >>> > suspect the >>> > UPS manufactures underrate the battery and are relying on the idea that >>> > most >>> > power losses are short. >>> >>> This is one of the best thought-out responses I've received to anything >>> this year. Thanks Harry. >>> >>> I've also been told on IRC that we do have machines dying due to power >>> issues, and that, to [BOB] at least, not having to rebuild his screen >>> session is worth $1000. >> >> What are you guys trying to achieve? ?Power conditioning, 2 min uptime, 30 >> min uptime, or longer? >> A well-maintained UPS can be expensive to run. ?The equation is something >> like: purchase cost + electrical install + 2-yearly battery replace/dispose >> + service costs. >> OK, so you can skimp on the last two, but - and I'm hazy on this - dying >> lead acid batteries will just suck charge continually while not actually >> charging. ?But if it is a (more expensive) double conversion UPS (AC-DC-AC), >> it will make a nice, but warm, power conditioner. >> I'd get a quote for the extra circuit, because it may not be trivial if they >> don't have capacity upstream. >> My experience with UPSs is that sometimes it is better to have multiple >> small ones than one big one. ?They are more disposable, and operating on >> common 10A circuits makes the electrics much cheaper (you can also get >> yourself into trouble with overloading easier, I guess). ?Liebert is a good >> brand but even their service guys warned me that like everyone, they make >> crappy consumer models too. ?One thing I would stay away from are modular >> UPSs. ?APC and Liebert make them where you can hotswap PSUs in and out - the >> general wisdom is that the hardwired ones are more reliable (hotswap >> batteries are fine). >> I just specced and installed them for a while, hopefully this post will >> attract comments from others more clued into electricals :) >> ,dunc > From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Mar 10 13:04:03 2011 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:04:03 +0800 Subject: [committee] Application for Door Message-ID: <20110310130403.21224ax8wlbtpqkg@secure.ucc.asn.au> Hi Peter, I can see from the agenda that you would like to be put on door. To apply, you need to follow these instructions: http://www.ucc.asn.au/infobase/policies/guidelines.ucc Don't worry, I didn't follow the procedure when I first applied either. Basically mail doorgoup at ucc saying that you want to be put on door, so that current door members can comment/object or ask questions. The page mentions the test for Coke members, but there is now also a test (LOLDOG) for Door members. You should probably include your answers to this in your email. LOLDOG quiz is here: http://dja.ucc.asn.au/LOLDOG-questions.txt Sam Moore [SZM] UCC Ordinary Committee Member 2011 From danielax at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 13:30:49 2011 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel Axtens) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 13:30:49 +0800 Subject: [committee] FYI: Constitution Message-ID: Hi all, The Constitution has been updated to include the amendments from our last AGM. A PDF is available at http://dja.ucc.asn.au/Constitution.pdf This version will be resubmitted to the statutes committee and the Dept of Commerce. We will keep you appraised on the progress. Best regards, Daniel Axtens [DJA] OCM 2011 From atyndall at gmail.com Thu Mar 10 21:12:47 2011 From: atyndall at gmail.com (Ash Tyndall) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 21:12:47 +0800 Subject: [committee] The UPS Message-ID: Take this email as my official confirmation that I supported Bob's purchase over the phone on the day of the auction. [ASH] 2011 Fresher Rep -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110310/cd3accef/attachment.htm From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Mar 10 22:58:19 2011 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 22:58:19 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <4D7759F3.7070508@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <881BEB35-0835-4863-87C9-C27A7826C2E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: So, I managed to get a controller shelf and an expansion shelf for $220 each. This is a little more than I wanted to pay, and a little more than the club approved, so Nick Bannon and myself have split the excess and 15% buyers premium between us. Thanks go to Nick - in an auction with over 600 lots, it was great to have some company appear out of nowhere armed with lemonade :) Harry McNally has offered to rewire the ?Malaysian? plug, and test the batteries, and Matt Didcoe has already got the ball rolling with quotes for an additional socket. Woo! I also picked up a Canon 8800F scanner for a very good price, and have donated it to the club. Hopefully tracking things like receipts will be a bit easier now. Regarding the aircon situation, maybe an extra *two* 15A sockets are in order, or perhaps it would be better to just amalgamate some machines. I think that deserves a new thread if someone has some ideas. [BOB] On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Matt wrote: > As I said in #committee this morning, I've been a strong advocate of > UCC getting a UPS for some time - some people have however, raised > very valid concerns. > > While post sitting on this one would be nice, given I'm in two minds, > I'm going to provide my approval for the purchase at this time on the > proviso that the batteries aren't going to require immediate > replacement (hopefully you can talk to someone at Ross' about that > Bob). > > I'll speak to Henry today about the procedure for getting a more > formal quote out of FM for a 15A socket. > > I'd like to thank those who have weighed in both here and on IRC - its > good to see thorough discussion around the purchase :) > > [MRD] > > On Wed, Mar 9, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Duncan Sargeant wrote: > > 2011/3/9 Daniel Axtens > >> > >> > For the UPS' sake, running only for 90 seconds doesn't take the battery > >> > anywhere near to the UPS' "discharged battery" threshold which, for > >> > these > >> > small SLA batteries, kills them without too many cycles to flat. I > >> > suspect the > >> > UPS manufactures underrate the battery and are relying on the idea that > >> > most > >> > power losses are short. > >> > >> This is one of the best thought-out responses I've received to anything > >> this year. Thanks Harry. > >> > >> I've also been told on IRC that we do have machines dying due to power > >> issues, and that, to [BOB] at least, not having to rebuild his screen > >> session is worth $1000. > > > > What are you guys trying to achieve? ?Power conditioning, 2 min uptime, 30 > > min uptime, or longer? > > A well-maintained UPS can be expensive to run. ?The equation is something > > like: purchase cost + electrical install + 2-yearly battery replace/dispose > > + service costs. > > OK, so you can skimp on the last two, but - and I'm hazy on this - dying > > lead acid batteries will just suck charge continually while not actually > > charging. ?But if it is a (more expensive) double conversion UPS (AC-DC-AC), > > it will make a nice, but warm, power conditioner. > > I'd get a quote for the extra circuit, because it may not be trivial if they > > don't have capacity upstream. > > My experience with UPSs is that sometimes it is better to have multiple > > small ones than one big one. ?They are more disposable, and operating on > > common 10A circuits makes the electrics much cheaper (you can also get > > yourself into trouble with overloading easier, I guess). ?Liebert is a good > > brand but even their service guys warned me that like everyone, they make > > crappy consumer models too. ?One thing I would stay away from are modular > > UPSs. ?APC and Liebert make them where you can hotswap PSUs in and out - the > > general wisdom is that the hardwired ones are more reliable (hotswap > > batteries are fine). > > I just specced and installed them for a while, hopefully this post will > > attract comments from others more clued into electricals :) > > ,dunc > From matt at ucc.asn.au Thu Mar 10 23:01:37 2011 From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 23:01:37 +0800 Subject: [committee] [tech] Auction TOMORROW for UPS In-Reply-To: References: <4D770D02.4090603@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <4D7759F3.7070508@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <881BEB35-0835-4863-87C9-C27A7826C2E9@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20110310150137.GP24077@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:58:19PM +0800, Bob Adamson wrote: > Regarding the aircon situation, maybe an extra *two* 15A sockets are in > order, or perhaps it would be better to just amalgamate some machines. I > think that deserves a new thread if someone has some ideas. Put a power meter on things, see what's generating the most heat, and throw out the loser. I reckon those old disk arrays would be the hottest item at the moment. Are they worth keeping? Could the UPS be kept outside the machineroom? Matt From danielax at gmail.com Fri Mar 11 10:29:38 2011 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel Axtens) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 10:29:38 +0800 Subject: [committee] The Stairwell and SOC situation - resolved References: <6C9EB7F4-B45D-47A7-AECF-BDE82B40710D@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hi all, I attended the Tenancy Committee meeting last night on behalf of UCC. The behaviour of the SOC president was very different to what her emails led us to expect. She, whilst still believing our actions to be in breach of the tenancy agreement, openly accepted that our actions were done in good faith. She even suggested that we could be reimbursed - which I was not originally going to bring up. This suggestion gained significant support when the costs incurred doing the painting (around $160) were compared to the price of having the work done commercially (multiple thousand dollars). Several groups also spoke favourably of the quality of the paint job. The only significant objection was raised by Solid Gold. Their rep argued that by reimbursing the Tenancy Committee was effectively condoning our actions. I acknowledged that in the ideal situation, the approval of the tenancy committee would be sought, and their objection didn't seem to gather much momentum. In the end, the motion to reimburse was carried 11-5. For administrative convenience, the money will be passed to UCC on the expectation that we pass it on. On the negative side, UCC *may* receive a formal warning with respect to the work. Whilst not ideal, I believe this to be a good outcome because the warning seems to be a mere formality rather than a substantial concern. Our good faith was openly acknowledged, as was the fact that we used a key from Guild staff. I believe that damage done to our reputation is minimal (especially amongst other clubs) and can be repaired. The situation, as far as we can tell, is now resolved to the satisfaction of SOC and the Tenancy committee. I think, all things considered, we came out of it as well as could be expected. == Other notable issues canvassed at the meeting == - Amendments to the Tenancy Agreement: I submitted some possible changes last year and the SOC president independently came up with some amendments as well. We attempted to discuss if my amendments provided anything further that should be adopted, but attempting to merge 2 multi-page documents in hard copy on the fly proved more than most attendees --- including myself --- could really handle. Expect some discussion on this to continue. We'll keep this list updated. To the credit of the SOC president, some of her amendments addressed some issues I independently identified, and she was quite receptive to other suggestions I raised. (mainly technical issues re: insurance) - The policy for allocation of clubs to clubrooms in the new building was discussed. While little detail has been pinned down, one of the criteria that the Guild will use which I'd really like to bring to your attention is "being good to the Guild". We're very good at developing relationships with Guild staff, but there are a few things we could do to build a better relationship with the elected councillors. A particular example that was raised was showing guild signage at club events. UCC was also used at least once as an example of factors that would weigh towards keeping a clubroom - for example that our club essentially revolves around the clubroom. - Busy bee/cleaning dates were discussed. Between me, [CJS] and [ASH] (who were both observers), we all managed to miss writing them down, but expect them in an email sometime soon. From memory, they were the Sunday after prosh, the Sunday before Sem 2 starts, and the Sunday before the study week before exams in Sem 2. == Conclusion == I'd like to commend the following clubs and people for being particularly helpful: - UniSFA - Leisure - I know Leisure-bashing is popular, but they deserve a *lot* of respect for how they handled this issue. - Guild Finance Staff - UniGames, and the rest of the Cameron Hall nerd/geek mob. Finally, thanks all for supporting me in representing you on this issue. I appreciate your trust and confidence, and I hope you're at least as happy as I am with the outcome. Thanks especially to those who asked good questions, made suggestions, and offered advice, either in person, by email or on IRC. PLEASE continue to respect SOC, the Tenancy Committee and the Guild in your dealings with other people and on social networks. Again, if you have any further questions, feel free to contact me. Best Regards, Daniel Axtens UCC OCM 2011 From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 11 11:44:31 2011 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:44:31 +0800 Subject: [committee] Fwd: UPS - 15amp power outlet In-Reply-To: <2E04EE659B282B409BA54D390F79E31111DA0B@admin-vm17.admin.uwa.edu.au> References: <2E04EE659B282B409BA54D390F79E31111DA0B@admin-vm17.admin.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: Ouch :( It's already been discussed on IRC that an external contractor may be cheaper - I don't believe however, that UWA FM would be overly pleased with that and probably wouldn't signoff on it, I will have a discussion with David though and see if there's any alternate methods for acquiring the new socket for a more affordable price. -- Matt [MRD] 2011 Vice President ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Redman Date: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 10:38 AM Subject: UPS - 15amp power outlet To: didcom01 at student.uwa.edu.au Cc: vp at ucc.asn.au Matt, All 15amp outlets require to be on a separate circuit. The location of the switch board and your UPS position makes this not a straight forward installation, hence the price. $1584 Regards Dave Dave Redman |Electrical Supervisor - Facilities Management| Tel: 08 6488 2016| Fax: 08 6488 1114 | Mob: 0404 063 599| Email: david.redman at uwa.edu.au (M403) The University of Western Australia, 35 Stirling Highway, CRAWLEY WA 6009 From prothoss at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 11 11:57:13 2011 From: prothoss at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Conrad Pogson) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:57:13 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Tenancy Committee minutes and other info! (fwd) Message-ID: FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:47:36 +0800 (WST) From: Hannah Gifford To: unisfa-committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au, uwacatholicsociety at yahoo.com.au, 20361362 at student.uwa.edu.au, djbeckett at iinet.net.au, aiesec.uwa at aiesec.net, japssoc at gmail.com, waitej01 at student.uwa.edu.au, maujer01 at student.uwa.edu.au, uwanime at gmail.com, committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au, 20521774 at student.uwa.edu.au, 20756846 at student.uwa.edu.au, rachelbenn119 at gmail.com, committee at unicampforkids.org.au, pac at guild.uwa.edu.au, soc at guild.uwa.edu.au, ilona.quahe11 at guild.uwa.edu.au, soc-vp at guild.uwa.edu.au, priya_brown at hotmail.com, 20771349 at student.uwa.edu.au Subject: Tenancy Committee minutes and other info! Hi everyone! Firstly, thank you very much to all of you who attended the first Tenancy Committee Meeting last night. I believe the meeting was very positive and hopefully this will be the beginning of a stronger relationship between club tenants and the Guild. The next meeting will include food I promise! COMMITTEE CONTACTS The following clubs are in the mailing list and have had contact with me: UCC, UCFK, AUJS, CU, UWAnime, Leisure, UNISFA, UDS, UCS, UniGames, Solid Gold, JapSSoc and AIESEC. If there are any clubs with Guild clubrooms that I haven't contacted that you know of - PLEASE let me know! I'm pretty sure I've covered everyone but it'd be great if you could all just have a look over this list for me. TENANCY AGREEMENT CHANGES As discussed in the meeting last night, if any of you would like to see any changes to the current Tenancy Agreement draft I will need you to get them to me soon before I finalise the agreement and your clubs will need to sign them. I will need these submissions by Wednesday the 23rd of March so I have enough time to put together the motion for Guild Council (if necessary). The question raised by Daniel (UCC) regarding s4.4 of the proposed Tenancy Agreement was discussed this morning by myself with Wayne, the Managing Director. Wayne has told me that this section has been a feature of the Tenancy Agreement for several years and it is in the Guild's best interests for this clause to remain there. All affiliated clubs are covered by Guild insurance so in the end it really shouldn't be an issue for clubs. Wayne has told me that if any of your clubs have a serious issue with the clause you will need to provide an explanation describing why it's unreasonable - however it is still unlikely that the section will be removed. FORMAL WARNING TO UCC The following warning has been issued to the UCC committee via email: "UCC is hereby warned that their actions were wrong in painting the walls of common areas in Cameron Hall without the permission of the Guild and the Tenancy Committee. Any future changes to Guild property must follow the due process by notifying the Tenancy Committee Chair and the Societies Council President to seek permission before any actions are taken. If similar actions occur again it is likely that UCC will face harsher penalties." If you have any further concerns about this issue please let myself or Ilona know. I hope this issue has been dealt with though! MINUTES The minutes from last night are attached - thank you Thomas Chadwick for typing them up! If there are any mistakes/errors please let myself or Ilona know so we can get them changed. At our next meeting we will vote to pass the previous minutes so it'd be good if any mistakes are changed before then. FACILITIES MANAGEMENT The Cameron Hall building issues raised in the meeting last night have all been passed onto the appropriate Guild staff member (Henry Dudek). FUTURE MEETING DATES I have decided on the following 4 dates for the Tenancy Committee Meetings for the rest of the year: - 6pm Wednesday, the 6th of April - 6pm Wednesday, the 18th of May - 6pm Wednesday, the 17th of August - 6pm Wednesday, the 14th of September If I don't get any complaints about these dates by this Sunday (the 13th of March) I will assume you can all attend these dates and will make the room bookings on Monday morning. Thanks again to all of you who attended the meeting last night! Sorry about the long email, hopefully they won't be so long in the future! Hannah -- Hannah Gifford Societies Council President Ph: (08) 6488 3773 E: soc at guild.uwa.edu.au -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Minutes Wed 9 March.doc Type: application/msword Size: 43520 bytes Desc: Url : http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110311/960dc186/attachment-0001.doc From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 11 12:12:41 2011 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:12:41 +0800 Subject: [committee] Tenancy Committee minutes and other info! In-Reply-To: <56321.130.95.100.104.1299815256.squirrel@mail.guild.uwa.edu.au> References: <56321.130.95.100.104.1299815256.squirrel@mail.guild.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: Hi Hannah, I'm not too sure exactly who the SG representative is, so if you could pass this on it would be great - didn't want everyone to get this (given a number of them are in the main guild building!) In relation to internet access, the agreement we've negotiated directly with the Director of ITS and the Vice Chancellor means that the subsidised connection we have is for the use of UCC only and we've had a number of conditions placed on who can access it and what for. However, I have it on good authority that a Unifi access point will be appearing in Cameron Hall in mid-April (approx) this year - work is already underway to improve the network connection to the Guild Comms room on the second floor to meet the standards required to have an access point in there. This will mean that any student can use their Pheme credentials to access the UWA network as they would anywhere else on campus. The information I've had is second hand, but if you'd like to get something more concrete in terms of a timeline, I'm more than happy to talk to my friends at ITS for you, or you can contact Toivo in the ITS Networks team and I'm sure he'll do his best to get you an answer. All the best, Matt -- Matt Didcoe 2011 Vice President University Computer Club vp at ucc.asn.au On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Hannah Gifford wrote: > Hi everyone! > > Firstly, thank you very much to all of you who attended the first Tenancy > Committee Meeting last night. I believe the meeting was very positive and > hopefully this will be the beginning of a stronger relationship between > club tenants and the Guild. The next meeting will include food I promise! > > COMMITTEE CONTACTS > The following clubs are in the mailing list and have had contact with me: > UCC, UCFK, AUJS, CU, UWAnime, Leisure, UNISFA, UDS, UCS, UniGames, Solid > Gold, JapSSoc and AIESEC. > If there are any clubs with Guild clubrooms that I haven't contacted that > you know of - PLEASE let me know! I'm pretty sure I've covered everyone > but it'd be great if you could all just have a look over this list for me. > > TENANCY AGREEMENT CHANGES > As discussed in the meeting last night, if any of you would like to see > any changes to the current Tenancy Agreement draft I will need you to get > them to me soon before I finalise the agreement and your clubs will need > to sign them. I will need these submissions by Wednesday the 23rd of March > so I have enough time to put together the motion for Guild Council (if > necessary). > The question raised by Daniel (UCC) regarding s4.4 of the proposed Tenancy > Agreement was discussed this morning by myself with Wayne, the Managing > Director. Wayne has told me that this section has been a feature of the > Tenancy Agreement for several years and it is in the Guild's best > interests for this clause to remain there. All affiliated clubs are > covered by Guild insurance so in the end it really shouldn't be an issue > for clubs. Wayne has told me that if any of your clubs have a serious > issue with the clause you will need to provide an explanation describing > why it's unreasonable - however it is still unlikely that the section will > be removed. > > FORMAL WARNING TO UCC > The following warning has been issued to the UCC committee via email: > "UCC is hereby warned that their actions were wrong in painting the walls > of common areas in Cameron Hall without the permission of the Guild and > the Tenancy Committee. Any future changes to Guild property must follow > the due process by notifying the Tenancy Committee Chair and the Societies > Council President to seek permission before any actions are taken. If > similar actions occur again it is likely that UCC will face harsher > penalties." > If you have any further concerns about this issue please let myself or > Ilona know. I hope this issue has been dealt with though! > > MINUTES > The minutes from last night are attached - thank you Thomas Chadwick for > typing them up! If there are any mistakes/errors please let myself or > Ilona know so we can get them changed. At our next meeting we will vote to > pass the previous minutes so it'd be good if any mistakes are changed > before then. > > FACILITIES MANAGEMENT > The Cameron Hall building issues raised in the meeting last night have all > been passed onto the appropriate Guild staff member (Henry Dudek). > > FUTURE MEETING DATES > I have decided on the following 4 dates for the Tenancy Committee Meetings > for the rest of the year: > - 6pm Wednesday, the 6th of April > - 6pm Wednesday, the 18th of May > - 6pm Wednesday, the 17th of August > - 6pm Wednesday, the 14th of September > If I don't get any complaints about these dates by this Sunday (the 13th > of March) I will assume you can all attend these dates and will make the > room bookings on Monday morning. > > Thanks again to all of you who attended the meeting last night! Sorry > about the long email, hopefully they won't be so long in the future! > > Hannah > > -- > Hannah Gifford > Societies Council President > Ph: (08) 6488 3773 > E: soc at guild.uwa.edu.au From soc at guild.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 11 12:17:20 2011 From: soc at guild.uwa.edu.au (Hannah Gifford) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 12:17:20 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Tenancy Committee minutes and other info! In-Reply-To: References: <56321.130.95.100.104.1299815256.squirrel@mail.guild.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <56529.130.95.100.104.1299817040.squirrel@mail.guild.uwa.edu.au> Hi Matt Thank you very much for your quick response! I will forward your reply to David Beckett (the Solid Gold President). Hannah -- Hannah Gifford Societies Council President Ph: (08) 6488 3773 E: soc at guild.uwa.edu.au On Fri, March 11, 2011 12:12 pm, Matt Didcoe wrote: > Hi Hannah, > > I'm not too sure exactly who the SG representative is, so if you could > pass this on it would be great - didn't want everyone to get this > (given a number of them are in the main guild building!) > > In relation to internet access, the agreement we've negotiated > directly with the Director of ITS and the Vice Chancellor means that > the subsidised connection we have is for the use of UCC only and we've > had a number of conditions placed on who can access it and what for. > > However, I have it on good authority that a Unifi access point will be > appearing in Cameron Hall in mid-April (approx) this year - work is > already underway to improve the network connection to the Guild Comms > room on the second floor to meet the standards required to have an > access point in there. This will mean that any student can use their > Pheme credentials to access the UWA network as they would anywhere > else on campus. > > The information I've had is second hand, but if you'd like to get > something more concrete in terms of a timeline, I'm more than happy to > talk to my friends at ITS for you, or you can contact Toivo in the ITS > Networks team and I'm sure he'll do his best to get you an answer. > > All the best, > Matt > > -- > Matt Didcoe > 2011 Vice President > University Computer Club > vp at ucc.asn.au > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Hannah Gifford > wrote: >> Hi everyone! >> >> Firstly, thank you very much to all of you who attended the first >> Tenancy >> Committee Meeting last night. I believe the meeting was very positive >> and >> hopefully this will be the beginning of a stronger relationship between >> club tenants and the Guild. The next meeting will include food I >> promise! >> >> COMMITTEE CONTACTS >> The following clubs are in the mailing list and have had contact with >> me: >> UCC, UCFK, AUJS, CU, UWAnime, Leisure, UNISFA, UDS, UCS, UniGames, Solid >> Gold, JapSSoc and AIESEC. >> If there are any clubs with Guild clubrooms that I haven't contacted >> that >> you know of - PLEASE let me know! I'm pretty sure I've covered everyone >> but it'd be great if you could all just have a look over this list for >> me. >> >> TENANCY AGREEMENT CHANGES >> As discussed in the meeting last night, if any of you would like to see >> any changes to the current Tenancy Agreement draft I will need you to >> get >> them to me soon before I finalise the agreement and your clubs will need >> to sign them. I will need these submissions by Wednesday the 23rd of >> March >> so I have enough time to put together the motion for Guild Council (if >> necessary). >> The question raised by Daniel (UCC) regarding s4.4 of the proposed >> Tenancy >> Agreement was discussed this morning by myself with Wayne, the Managing >> Director. Wayne has told me that this section has been a feature of the >> Tenancy Agreement for several years and it is in the Guild's best >> interests for this clause to remain there. All affiliated clubs are >> covered by Guild insurance so in the end it really shouldn't be an issue >> for clubs. Wayne has told me that if any of your clubs have a serious >> issue with the clause you will need to provide an explanation describing >> why it's unreasonable - however it is still unlikely that the section >> will >> be removed. >> >> FORMAL WARNING TO UCC >> The following warning has been issued to the UCC committee via email: >> "UCC is hereby warned that their actions were wrong in painting the >> walls >> of common areas in Cameron Hall without the permission of the Guild and >> the Tenancy Committee. Any future changes to Guild property must follow >> the due process by notifying the Tenancy Committee Chair and the >> Societies >> Council President to seek permission before any actions are taken. If >> similar actions occur again it is likely that UCC will face harsher >> penalties." >> If you have any further concerns about this issue please let myself or >> Ilona know. I hope this issue has been dealt with though! >> >> MINUTES >> The minutes from last night are attached - thank you Thomas Chadwick for >> typing them up! If there are any mistakes/errors please let myself or >> Ilona know so we can get them changed. At our next meeting we will vote >> to >> pass the previous minutes so it'd be good if any mistakes are changed >> before then. >> >> FACILITIES MANAGEMENT >> The Cameron Hall building issues raised in the meeting last night have >> all >> been passed onto the appropriate Guild staff member (Henry Dudek). >> >> FUTURE MEETING DATES >> I have decided on the following 4 dates for the Tenancy Committee >> Meetings >> for the rest of the year: >> - 6pm Wednesday, the 6th of April >> - 6pm Wednesday, the 18th of May >> - 6pm Wednesday, the 17th of August >> - 6pm Wednesday, the 14th of September >> If I don't get any complaints about these dates by this Sunday (the 13th >> of March) I will assume you can all attend these dates and will make the >> room bookings on Monday morning. >> >> Thanks again to all of you who attended the meeting last night! Sorry >> about the long email, hopefully they won't be so long in the future! >> >> Hannah >> >> -- >> Hannah Gifford >> Societies Council President >> Ph: (08) 6488 3773 >> E: soc at guild.uwa.edu.au > > From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 11 13:36:45 2011 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 13:36:45 +0800 Subject: [committee] Fwd: UPS - 15amp power outlet In-Reply-To: <2E04EE659B282B409BA54D390F79E31111DA0D@admin-vm17.admin.uwa.edu.au> References: <2E04EE659B282B409BA54D390F79E31111DA0B@admin-vm17.admin.uwa.edu.au> <2E04EE659B282B409BA54D390F79E31111DA0D@admin-vm17.admin.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: The question I posed to Dave was: What's the policy on getting in an external licensed electrical contractor? One of the other committee members asked if we were allowed to do that to see if it would be cheaper - I'm not sure of the rules relating to that. Answer: Outside electrical contractors must be on the Universities Preferred Contractors list. You cannot just use the yellow pages, sorry. The price I have given is the worst case scenario, it could workout cheaper as we only charge what it costs us, we do not make profits? How do people want to proceed with this? We've bough the UPS, so apart from reselling it, I don't see much option but to invest in installation of the socket. - Matt [MRD] 2011 Vice President From dorothy.murchie at uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 11 11:58:44 2011 From: dorothy.murchie at uwa.edu.au (Dorothy Curtis) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 11:58:44 +0800 Subject: [committee] Unused Telephone Extension Numbers Message-ID: <7E0C97968F4AC447B8D9B1F4D71B96F988648B37@ITS-WIN-009.staffad.uwa.edu.au> The Telephone Exchange needs to retrieve unused extension numbers. We propose to retrieve all unused extension numbers that have not made a call on them since 1st January 2010. If there is an extension number in your section, that appears on your bill as not having made a call, that you wish to retain for a particular reason, please inform us as soon as possible with the extension number you wish to retain, along with the business justification for retaining. For enquires on this matter please call Dot or Beth ext 2377 or email telephonists at uwa.edu.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110311/cba675bd/attachment.htm From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 11 14:34:51 2011 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:34:51 +0800 Subject: [committee] Unused Telephone Extension Numbers In-Reply-To: <7E0C97968F4AC447B8D9B1F4D71B96F988648B37@ITS-WIN-009.staffad.uwa.edu.au> References: <7E0C97968F4AC447B8D9B1F4D71B96F988648B37@ITS-WIN-009.staffad.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: Hi, I've already spoken to Dot - this doesn't apply to us at all - given we only have one extension, we will be keeping it. -Matt [MRD] On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Dorothy Curtis wrote: > > > > > > > > > The Telephone Exchange needs to retrieve unused extension numbers. We > propose to retrieve all unused extension numbers that have not made a call > on them since 1st January 2010. > > > > > > If there is an extension number in your section, that appears on your bill > as not having made a call, that you wish to retain for a particular reason, > please inform us as soon as possible with the extension number you wish to > retain, along with the business justification for retaining. > > > > > > For enquires on this matter please call Dot or Beth ext 2377 or email > telephonists at uwa.edu.au > > > > From mtearle at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 11 18:59:23 2011 From: mtearle at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Mark Tearle) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:59:23 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Fwd: UPS - 15amp power outlet In-Reply-To: References: <2E04EE659B282B409BA54D390F79E31111DA0B@admin-vm17.admin.uwa.edu.au> <2E04EE659B282B409BA54D390F79E31111DA0D@admin-vm17.admin.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Matt Didcoe wrote: > The question I posed to Dave was: What's the policy on getting in an > external licensed electrical contractor? One of the other committee > members asked if we were allowed to do that to see if it would be > cheaper - I'm not sure of the rules relating to that. > > Answer: Outside electrical contractors must be on the Universities > Preferred Contractors list. You cannot just use the yellow pages, > sorry. The price I have given is the worst case scenario, it could > workout cheaper as we only charge what it costs us, we do not make > profits? > > How do people want to proceed with this? We've bough the UPS, so apart > from reselling it, I don't see much option but to invest in > installation of the socket. > > - Matt [MRD] > 2011 Vice President Hi Matt Have a chat to me when wearing my work hat and I can sort out a quote. I may even be able to do it when we have the Fibre startup meeting next week as they'll have the ladders in the hall at the time.. Mark -- Mark Tearle - mtearle at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fish! From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 11 20:24:45 2011 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson) Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:24:45 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Committee Meeting Message-ID: Hi all, There will be a committee meeting in the clubroom next Friday (the 18th) at 5pm. Bob Adamson UCC President |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous | |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" | | ---Peter's Laws | From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Mar 12 07:20:13 2011 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:20:13 +0800 Subject: [committee] UCC electronic member signups Message-ID: Hi everyone, You've probably heard around the traps or in #committee, that we're keen to get electronic signups happening. We've made a few positive steps in the right direction, with access to a Westpac Merchant Facility (which means in theory, we could get payment gateway access through them or a third party provider) and David's continued development of the UCC Gumby Management System (GMS). The question is: How do we design a system that effectively works to accept signups on O'Day and in the weeks after that reduces our dependence on annoying paper based forms? I have some ideas and was wondering if people interested in the idea might be willing to catch up over pizza at UCC next Friday night (18/3) after the UCC Committee meeting to bounce ideas around. I figure if we start now, by January next year, there might be a working system! Cheers, Matt -- Matt Didcoe [MRD] 2011 Vice President mattdidcoe at ucc.asn.au vp at ucc.asn.au From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Mar 12 09:54:33 2011 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 09:54:33 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] UCC electronic member signups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Matt Didcoe wrote: > We've made a few positive steps in the right direction, with access to > a Westpac Merchant Facility (which means in theory, we could get > payment gateway access through them or a third party provider) and > David's continued development of the UCC Gumby Management System > (GMS). I have access to some Python/Django code at work that makes credit card payments using Westpac's PayWay API (nb: PayWay Net is different) that I can probably release for this. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Mar 12 10:10:32 2011 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 10:10:32 +0800 Subject: [committee] UCC electronic member signups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Ah, fantastic, thanks James! I'd not got far with looking into the payment APIs yet - but it was a toss up between SecurePay (now Australia Post I believe after a buyout last month) or Westpac directly - comes down to fees and charges really (and the ability to use the API will out feeling angry). I envisage the payment bit being something you can have as a separate module - that way we can potentially offer the system up to other clubs (eg. our good friends UniSFA) for their own use. Again, one of the things I was going to bounce around on Friday. - Matt On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 9:54 AM, James Andrewartha wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Matt Didcoe wrote: > >> We've made a few positive steps in the right direction, with access to >> a Westpac Merchant Facility (which means in theory, we could get >> payment gateway access through them or a third party provider) and >> David's continued development of the UCC Gumby Management System >> (GMS). > > I have access to some Python/Django code at work that makes credit card > payments using Westpac's PayWay API (nb: PayWay Net is different) that I > can probably release for this. > > -- > # TRS-80 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ > # UCC Wheel Member ? ? http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| ?what squirrels do best ? ? | > [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ? ? ? ? ?]| ?-- Collect and hide your ? | > [ ?software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ ?nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / > > From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Mar 12 16:08:02 2011 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:08:02 +0800 Subject: [committee] Easter LAN Message-ID: Hey everyone, Can we have two people volunteer to organise the non-wheel bits of the Easter LAN (advertised as starting on 23/4 at 3pm in the Fresher Guide). I know it seems quite early to start thinking about it, but I think it would be an excellent idea to start pinning things down now rather than doing a rush at the end :) The other thought I had: LANs follow the same formula every time - while organising this one, if the people involved could create a bit of a checklist/guide (including who to talk to, when in the process you talk to them), that would be fantastic - that way, we can hand the list to someone who doesn't perhaps have prior experience/practise at running the UCC LANs and they can use that as a solid base. While not LAN related, we also have the UniSFA/UCC quiz night coming up in first semester - probably looking at mid-May for that (same as last year) - I'll happily step up on the UCC side (with one other person) and once we have a new committee over in UniSFA we can chat to them about that as well. Cheers, Matt -- Matt Didcoe 2011 Vice President mattdidcoe at ucc.asn.au / vp at ucc.asn.au 0422 889 871 From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Mar 13 08:45:55 2011 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 08:45:55 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Easter LAN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Matt Didcoe wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Can we have two people volunteer to organise the non-wheel bits of the > Easter LAN (advertised as starting on 23/4 at 3pm in the Fresher > Guide). > > I know it seems quite early to start thinking about it, but I think it > would be an excellent idea to start pinning things down now rather > than doing a rush at the end :) > > The other thought I had: LANs follow the same formula every time - > while organising this one, if the people involved could create a bit > of a checklist/guide (including who to talk to, when in the process > you talk to them), that would be fantastic - that way, we can hand the > list to someone who doesn't perhaps have prior experience/practise at > running the UCC LANs and they can use that as a solid base. Please see http://wiki.ucc.asn.au/UCCLAN [BOB] From atyndall at gmail.com Sun Mar 13 13:14:33 2011 From: atyndall at gmail.com (Ash Tyndall) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 13:14:33 +0800 Subject: [committee] Easter LAN In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not sure if I am going to be around on easter, but I could deal with the stuff "Well before the date" if there are no objections. On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Bob Adamson wrote: > On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Matt Didcoe wrote: > > > Hey everyone, > > > > Can we have two people volunteer to organise the non-wheel bits of the > > Easter LAN (advertised as starting on 23/4 at 3pm in the Fresher > > Guide). > > > > I know it seems quite early to start thinking about it, but I think it > > would be an excellent idea to start pinning things down now rather > > than doing a rush at the end :) > > > > The other thought I had: LANs follow the same formula every time - > > while organising this one, if the people involved could create a bit > > of a checklist/guide (including who to talk to, when in the process > > you talk to them), that would be fantastic - that way, we can hand the > > list to someone who doesn't perhaps have prior experience/practise at > > running the UCC LANs and they can use that as a solid base. > > Please see http://wiki.ucc.asn.au/UCCLAN > > [BOB] > [ASH] -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Quoting Ash Tyndall : > I'm not sure if I am going to be around on easter, but I could deal with the > stuff "Well before the date" if there are no objections. > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Bob Adamson wrote: > >> On Sat, 12 Mar 2011, Matt Didcoe wrote: >> >> > Hey everyone, >> > >> > Can we have two people volunteer to organise the non-wheel bits of the >> > Easter LAN (advertised as starting on 23/4 at 3pm in the Fresher >> > Guide). >> > >> > I know it seems quite early to start thinking about it, but I think it >> > would be an excellent idea to start pinning things down now rather >> > than doing a rush at the end :) >> > >> > The other thought I had: LANs follow the same formula every time - >> > while organising this one, if the people involved could create a bit >> > of a checklist/guide (including who to talk to, when in the process >> > you talk to them), that would be fantastic - that way, we can hand the >> > list to someone who doesn't perhaps have prior experience/practise at >> > running the UCC LANs and they can use that as a solid base. >> >> Please see http://wiki.ucc.asn.au/UCCLAN >> >> [BOB] >> > > [ASH] > [SZM] From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Mar 13 15:50:06 2011 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 15:50:06 +0800 Subject: [committee] Event idea? Message-ID: <20110313155006.10172a8sjmrpp7i8@secure.ucc.asn.au> Hi, I know we are planning on running a lot of LANs this year, but I thought it might be fun to have a robotics competition. Now you might think I am dreaming of "robot wars", with giant war machines with flame throwers and chain saws, but in fact had something a bit safer and smaller scale in mind. Details of the sort of competitions that I think might be good are here: http://matches.ucc.asn.au/robocomp.html While these ideas are not as cool as robotic death machines, they are a lot more attainable, and reasonably fun to watch, especially the soccer. The competitions are supposed to be easy enough so that people who do not necessary have a lot of experience can enter. Building a robot is not that hard (I have done it :P) if it just has to move around and maybe chase a bright light or something. However, people would probably need to invest some amount of money and time in building stuff for this competition. This is where I can see it failing due to general apathy. On the other hand it will give first/second year eng students stuff to do with their AVR. Anyway let me know what you think. tl;dr: Sam has an idea/s for a robotics competition, is it stupid? Thanks, Sam Moore [SZM] 2011 Ordinary Committee Member From jacques at chester.id.au Mon Mar 14 11:33:04 2011 From: jacques at chester.id.au (Jacques Chester) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:33:04 +0800 Subject: [committee] UCC electronic member signups In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D7D8C70.7030108@chester.id.au> On 12/03/2011 10:10 AM, Matt Didcoe wrote: > Ah, fantastic, thanks James! > > I'd not got far with looking into the payment APIs yet - but it was a > toss up between SecurePay (now Australia Post I believe after a buyout > last month) or Westpac directly - comes down to fees and charges > really (and the ability to use the API will out feeling angry). Writing code to integrate with a payment service is by far the easiest part. Getting merchant approval is *hard*. Though with $50,000 on deposit, you've actually got an excellent chance of getting merchant approval. Cheers, JC. From prothoss at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Mar 16 18:05:54 2011 From: prothoss at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Conrad Pogson) Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 18:05:54 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Potential Apologies for Friday Message-ID: Hi All, I have training this week so I might be late to the committee meeting on Friday and pending traffic may not even make it by the time the meeting ends (who the hell works next to the airport...). I will give the clubroom a call when I leave work. Regards, Conrad From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Mar 17 14:05:53 2011 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 14:05:53 +0800 Subject: [committee] Fwd: FW: Quotes for Cameron Hall and Business School In-Reply-To: <7396-4d81a300-3-1c339500@80741120> References: <7396-4d81a300-3-1c339500@80741120> Message-ID: I've added this to the agenda for discussion. For those who can't be bothered reading the attachment: - $580 (ex GST) from ODG (that's fixed cost) - $1584 from UWA - that's a "worst case scenario" they only charge what it actually costs in parts and labour (that could be the full amount they've indicated there or significantly less - no way of knowing until its complete). ODG are on the UWA approved contractors list so we can use then without any issues. Cheers, Matt -- Hi Matt Price for UCC work in Cameron Hall. ? Do you want to arrange Henry @ Guild to raise a purchase order? Mark -- Mark Tearle BCM - mark.tearle at uwa.edu.au Senior Technical Officer - Communications Infrastructure Facilities Management, The University of Western Australia Phone/Voice Mail: +61 8 6488 7950 Fax: +61 8 6488 1038 > -----Original Message----- > From: Glenn Prentice [mailto:GPRENTICE at odg.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 12:59 PM > To: Mark Tearle > Subject: RE: Quotes for Cameron Hall and Business School > > Hi Mark, > Please see attached Cameron Hall quotation. > > Kind regards, > > Glenn Prentice > Operations Manager > ODG > > DATA ?| ?ELECTRICAL & COMMUNICATIONS ENGINEERING > A member of the Norfolk Group > > M 0408 449 235 | T ?+61 8 9235 4055 | F +61 8 9235 4070 > 8 - 10 Modal Crescent ? Canning Vale ?WA ?6155 ? 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He can't make this Friday's meeting, but should be able to make the one the week after. -Matt From danielax at gmail.com Thu Mar 17 15:11:37 2011 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel Axtens) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:11:37 +0800 Subject: [committee] [SLX] for WinAdmin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I would gladly second this, and I endorse what Matt has said about [SLX]. [DJA] On 17/03/2011, at 2:22 PM, Matt Didcoe wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to nominate David Gow for membership of the WinAdmin group. > > David is regularly in the club and has a strong knowledge of things to > do with getting games working well (for example, noticing that OpenGL > was missing from one of the machines, which, once installed has > significantly improved performance). > > I believe he is a mature individual who would be an excellent addition > to the group. > > He can't make this Friday's meeting, but should be able to make the > one the week after. > > -Matt From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Mar 17 17:00:01 2011 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon) Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 17:00:01 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] 24 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting Agenda Message-ID: <20110317090001.C891360063@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> The current agenda is: * Office Bearers Reports (President/Vice Pres/Treasurer/Secretary/Fresher Rep) * Machine Technical Reports - Servers - Network - Desktops - New equipment - Appliances * Drinks and Snacks * Mail, Guild and SOC * Action Items * General Business: brickhead248 : Peter Mc for door. dylan : CCNA books atyndall : Club Steam accounts matches : robotics competition? atyndall : When is the Easter LAN? bob : PLUG event in the loft on April 12 bob : Purchase http://www.e-itx.com/epia-m840-ep50.html as a replacement mermaid (postage to be discussed too) bob : confirm $400 for ups purchase bob : term deposit matures on the 20th, what do we want to do? bob : conrad to sign office bearers form mattman : Door Application from [POT] mattman : WinAdmin application - [SLX] (nominated by [MRD]) mattman : Installation of 15A power socket by ODG for UPS ($580 ex GST) From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 18 11:00:01 2011 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:00:01 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] 6 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting Agenda Message-ID: <20110318030001.E195A60063@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> The current agenda is: * Office Bearers Reports (President/Vice Pres/Treasurer/Secretary/Fresher Rep) * Machine Technical Reports - Servers - Network - Desktops - New equipment - Appliances * Drinks and Snacks * Mail, Guild and SOC * Action Items * General Business: brickhead248 : Peter Mc for door. dylan : CCNA books atyndall : Club Steam accounts matches : robotics competition? atyndall : When is the Easter LAN? bob : PLUG event in the loft on April 12 bob : Purchase http://www.e-itx.com/epia-m840-ep50.html as a replacement mermaid (postage to be discussed too) bob : confirm $400 for ups purchase bob : term deposit matures on the 20th, what do we want to do? bob : conrad to sign office bearers form mattman : Door Application from [POT] mattman : WinAdmin application - [SLX] (nominated by [MRD]) mattman : Installation of 15A power socket by ODG for UPS ($580 ex GST) bob : renew and modify standing order that the treasurer can reimburse up to $250 per week on consumables without seeking further approval dja : Reimburse [MRD] for paint as per TC meeting decision From astro at jaram.net.au Fri Mar 18 11:36:51 2011 From: astro at jaram.net.au (Jeremy Cole) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:36:51 +0800 Subject: [committee] 6 hour warning: This Week's Committee Meeting Agenda In-Reply-To: <20110318030001.E195A60063@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20110318030001.E195A60063@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: > dylan : CCNA books If the club can handle having books from '08 I can donate the books I used to get my CCNA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[SZM] On Thu, 17 Mar 2011, Daniel Axtens wrote: > I would gladly second this, and I endorse what Matt has said about [SLX]. > > [DJA] > > On 17/03/2011, at 2:22 PM, Matt Didcoe wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I'd like to nominate David Gow for membership of the WinAdmin group. >> >> David is regularly in the club and has a strong knowledge of things to >> do with getting games working well (for example, noticing that OpenGL >> was missing from one of the machines, which, once installed has >> significantly improved performance). >> >> I believe he is a mature individual who would be an excellent addition >> to the group. >> >> He can't make this Friday's meeting, but should be able to make the >> one the week after. >> >> -Matt > From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 18 16:15:01 2011 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon) Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:15:01 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] 45 minute warning: This Week's Committee Meeting Agenda Message-ID: <20110318081501.871A260063@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> The current agenda is: * Office Bearers Reports (President/Vice Pres/Treasurer/Secretary/Fresher Rep) * Machine Technical Reports - Servers - Network - Desktops - New equipment - Appliances * Drinks and Snacks * Mail, Guild and SOC * Action Items * General Business: brickhead248 : Peter Mc for door. dylan : CCNA books atyndall : Club Steam accounts matches : robotics competition? atyndall : When is the Easter LAN? bob : PLUG event in the loft on April 12 bob : Purchase http://www.e-itx.com/epia-m840-ep50.html as a replacement mermaid (postage to be discussed too) bob : confirm $400 for ups purchase bob : term deposit matures on the 20th, what do we want to do? bob : conrad to sign office bearers form mattman : Door Application from [POT] mattman : WinAdmin application - [SLX] (nominated by [MRD]) mattman : Installation of 15A power socket by ODG for UPS ($580 ex GST) bob : renew and modify standing order that the treasurer can reimburse up to $250 per week on consumables without seeking further approval dja : Reimburse [MRD] for paint as per TC meeting decision From atyndall at ucc.asn.au Sat Mar 19 15:18:32 2011 From: atyndall at ucc.asn.au (Ash Tyndall) Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 15:18:32 +0800 Subject: [committee] Night pass for UCC club event Message-ID: Hi Tom, I'm writing to request a night pass for a University Computer Club event that will be held overnight from the 23rd to the 24th of April in the Cameron Hall loft common area. 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From atyndall at ucc.asn.au Mon Mar 21 22:21:16 2011 From: atyndall at ucc.asn.au (Ash Tyndall) Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:21:16 +0800 Subject: [committee] Steam licensing for non-profit university computer club Message-ID: Hello Matt, I was given your email address by the Head of IT at a small high school who had a similar request and circumstances. I represent a computer enthusiasts club (creatively called the University Computer Club) based in the University of Western Australia. We are a non-profit (and soon to be) incorporated entity run for and by students of UWA with a small clubroom on campus that contains a variety of old and new computer equipment. Throughout the year we run a variety of events, the most popular of which are the UCC LANs and UCC MegaLAN. My role on the UCC committee is to encourage fresher (first year) participation in club events. One way in which I hope to do that this year is to inquire about the options available to the club in regards to obtaining Steam accounts for use (only) by current members. These would be particularly useful in LAN events where some participants may not own Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead or any other game (Valve-created in particular) we may be playing. I did some research on this topic through the Steam and Valve websites, and it appears that neither the Valve Cafe or SourceU program criteria cover our circumstances. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. We would be completely happy to display the Valve/Steam logo on our sponsorship page, event posters and general club material. -- Ash Tyndall 2011 UCC Fresher Rep UCC Website: http://www.ucc.asn.au/ My Email: atyndall at ucc.asn.au Committee: committee-only at ucc.asn.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Best regards, Daniel Axtens Begin forwarded message: > From: "Rachel Lee" > Date: 23 March 2011 8:39:13 AM AWST > To: "Daniel Axtens" > Subject: Re: University Computer Club Constitution > > Hi Daniel, > > I have put it on the agenda for our Statute's meeting on March 29th > > Rachel > > Daniel Axtens wrote: >> Hi Rachel, >> >> As Matt Didcoe mentioned to you earlier, we've had to make some changes to >> our constitution to satisfy the Department of Commerce. The changes are >> minor technical ones, so I hope they won't cause any problems. >> >> Our updated constitution is attached for approval by Statutes. Also >> attached is an email detailing the amendments which I hope will be >> helpful. >> >> Feel free to contact me with any questions/queries. >> >> Best regards, >> Daniel Axtens >> UCC OCM 2011 >> >> >> > > > -- > Rachel Lee > Chair of Guild Council > 98th UWA Student Guild > 0423 129 281 > rachel.lee11 at guild.uwa.edu.au > From karen.abbott at uwa.edu.au Wed Mar 23 12:27:32 2011 From: karen.abbott at uwa.edu.au (Karen M Abbott) Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:27:32 +0800 Subject: [committee] Employer Talks Message-ID: <67B9FBFBE0052844BDD8A3820AE463A2066C1C28@ADMIN-SERV48.admin.uwa.edu.au> Hi We have a number of employers seeking Computer Science students. Please help us promote these opportunities to students. 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We a no longer Unigames poor, we should fix our machines when they break. nightrdr : Deskspace resembles Benghazi and needs a clean-up. sulix : [SLX] would like to apply for Door bob : [SLX] for door From committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Mar 25 16:15:01 2011 From: committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 16:15:01 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] 45 minute warning: This Week's Committee Meeting Agenda Message-ID: <20110325081501.D6AE760063@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> The current agenda is: * Office Bearers Reports (President/Vice Pres/Treasurer/Secretary/Fresher Rep) * Machine Technical Reports - Servers - Network - Desktops - New equipment - Appliances * Drinks and Snacks * Mail, Guild and SOC * Action Items * General Business: bob : need to get an ssd for merlo (the new mermaid) bob : modify door/coke members policies so that your membership of those groups lapses when your membership lapses nightrdr : combtail is FUCKED. Suggest someone (OCM) diagnose problem and cost up a solution/replacement parts. We a no longer Unigames poor, we should fix our machines when they break. nightrdr : Deskspace resembles Benghazi and needs a clean-up. sulix : [SLX] would like to apply for Door bob : [SLX] for door root : purchase 2 ATI sapphire HD5870 cards from [JVT] for $100 each From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Mar 28 11:43:06 2011 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:43:06 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Robotics Competition Message-ID: Hi UCC Members, This year the committee were thinking of running a small scale robotics competition, to give people a chance to show off both their hardware and software skills. People are encouraged to enter in teams of up to 4. You can use any hardware you like, including lego mindstorms, mechano, or other robot "kits", provided your work is original, and your robot is not "dangerous". A brief overview of competition ideas is here: http://matches.ucc.asn.au/robocomp/ As we haven't run a competition of this kind before, the ideas are subject to change. However there are currently 2 main competitions planned: 1. Sumo Build a robot designed to push its opponents out of a ring, like sumo wrestling. Detailed rules: http://matches.ucc.asn.au/robocomp/sumo_rules.pdf 2. Soccer Build one or two robots which will play an autonomous game of soccer. Detailed rules: http://matches.ucc.asn.au/robocomp/soccer_rules.pdf In addition, there will be a "Miscellaneous" category, for anyone who just wishes to build something cool and show off. There will be a small entrance fee for each event ($5 for members, $10 for non members) for each competition. Money raised from this will go towards prizes. There is no set date for the first event yet, but there may be a sumo competition in the first study break (in a months time). There will almost definately be an event in the first semester break (after exams). Sign up to the mailing list to recieve updates and information! http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/robocomp Sam Moore [SZM] 2011 Ordinary Committee Member, UCC From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Mar 28 14:36:20 2011 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:36:20 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] [ucc] Robotics Competition In-Reply-To: <9B3CD052-BB14-4C44-B5B4-EB32C19E911E@earthyself.com> References: <9B3CD052-BB14-4C44-B5B4-EB32C19E911E@earthyself.com> Message-ID: Hello Shay, I don't see any reason why the Artifactory couldn't field a team. There will be a size limit of 4 members per team; you can enter more teams if you like. People don't have to be ucc members to be on a team, but the entry fee will be slightly higher for non members. The cost will be calculated per team member; it is up to the team to work out who contributes what amount. I am trying (between assignments) to set up a registration website; an email will go to the mailing list when it is ready. Regards, Sam Moore On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Shay Telfer wrote: > Hi... > > Not sure if anyone from the Artifactory is interested, but if they were would we be able to field a team? There are a few UCCans (including myself) and exUCCans who are Artifactorians. > > Thanks, > Shay > > On 28/03/2011, at 11:43 AM, Sam Moore wrote: > >> >> Hi UCC Members, >> >> This year the committee were thinking of running a small scale robotics competition, to give people a chance to show off both their hardware and software skills. >> >> People are encouraged to enter in teams of up to 4. You can use any hardware you like, including lego mindstorms, mechano, or other robot "kits", provided your work is original, and your robot is not "dangerous". >> >> A brief overview of competition ideas is here: >> http://matches.ucc.asn.au/robocomp/ >> >> As we haven't run a competition of this kind before, the ideas are subject to change. However there are currently 2 main competitions planned: >> >> 1. Sumo >> Build a robot designed to push its opponents out of a ring, like sumo wrestling. >> >> Detailed rules: http://matches.ucc.asn.au/robocomp/sumo_rules.pdf >> >> 2. Soccer >> Build one or two robots which will play an autonomous game of soccer. >> >> Detailed rules: http://matches.ucc.asn.au/robocomp/soccer_rules.pdf >> >> In addition, there will be a "Miscellaneous" category, for anyone who just wishes to build something cool and show off. >> >> There will be a small entrance fee for each event ($5 for members, $10 for non members) for each competition. >> Money raised from this will go towards prizes. >> >> There is no set date for the first event yet, but there may be a sumo competition in the first study break (in a months time). There will almost definately be an event in the first semester break (after exams). >> >> Sign up to the mailing list to recieve updates and information! >> >> http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/robocomp >> >> Sam Moore [SZM] >> 2011 Ordinary Committee Member, UCC >> > From atyndall at gmail.com Mon Mar 28 15:31:40 2011 From: atyndall at gmail.com (Ash Tyndall) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:31:40 +0800 Subject: [committee] Feedback on email: round two Message-ID: I've revised the email slightly to not mention the word profit at all throughout. I've also gone through and checked that it didn't contain any other likely spam words. Can anyone else see anything that might trip the spam filter again? Also, what are people's opinions on emailing a more general address? ----------------------------------- To: mcampbell at valvesoftware.com Subject: Steam licensing for university computer club Hello Matt, I was given your email address by the Head of IT at a small high school who had a similar request and circumstances. I represent a computer enthusiasts club (creatively called the University Computer Club) based in the University of Western Australia. We are a non-profit (and soon to be) incorporated entity run for and by students of UWA with a small clubroom on campus that contains a variety of old and new computer equipment. Throughout the year we run a variety of events, the most popular of which are the UCC LANs and UCC MegaLAN. My role on the UCC committee is to encourage fresher (first year) participation in club events. One way in which I hope to do that this year is to inquire about the options available to the club in regards to obtaining Steam accounts for use (only) by current members. These would be particularly useful in LAN events where some participants may not own Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead or any other game (Valve-created in particular) we may be playing. I did some research on this topic through the Steam and Valve websites, and it appears that neither the Valve Cafe or SourceU program criteria cover our circumstances. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. We would be completely happy to display the Valve/Steam logo on our sponsorship page, event posters and general club material. -- Ash Tyndall 2011 UCC Fresher Rep UCC Website: http://www.ucc.asn.au/ My Email: atyndall at ucc.asn.au Committee: committee-only at ucc.asn.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/private/committee/attachments/20110328/ebd6267a/attachment.htm From committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Mar 28 17:00:01 2011 From: committee-only at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Committee Agenda Daemon) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:00:01 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] 4 day warning: Notice of Ordinary Committee Meeting Message-ID: <20110328090001.D67D360065@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> An Ordinary Committee Meeting will be held as usual at 5pm this Friday in the UCC Clubroom, unless otherwise stated. From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Mar 28 17:41:17 2011 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2011 17:41:17 +0800 (WST) Subject: [committee] Feedback on email: round two In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Ash, Perhaps give a link to our website, so he doesn't have to google us? It looks ok though. Sam On Mon, 28 Mar 2011, Ash Tyndall wrote: > I've revised the email slightly to not mention the word profit at all throughout. I've also gone through and checked that it didn't contain any other > likely spam words. Can anyone else see anything that might trip the spam filter again? > Also, what are people's opinions on emailing a more general address? > > ----------------------------------- > To:?mcampbell at valvesoftware.com > Subject:?Steam licensing for university computer club > Hello Matt, > > I was given your email address by the Head of IT at a small high school who had a similar request and circumstances. > I represent a computer enthusiasts club (creatively called the University Computer Club) based in the University of Western Australia. > We are a non-profit (and soon to be) incorporated entity run for and by students of UWA with a small clubroom on campus that contains a variety of old > and new computer?equipment. > Throughout the year we run a variety of events, the most popular of which are the UCC LANs and UCC MegaLAN. > My role on the UCC committee is to encourage fresher (first year) participation in club events. > One way in which I hope to do that this year is to inquire?about the options available to the club in regards to obtaining Steam accounts for use (only) > by current members. > These would be?particularly useful?in LAN events where some participants may not own Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead or any other game (Valve-created in > particular) we may be playing. > I did some research on this topic through the Steam and Valve websites, and it appears that neither the Valve Cafe or SourceU program criteria cover our > circumstances. > Any help you can give would be?greatly?appreciated. We would be completely happy to display the Valve/Steam logo on our sponsorship page, event posters > and general club material. > > --Ash Tyndall > 2011 UCC Fresher Rep > UCC Website:?http://www.ucc.asn.au/ > My Email: atyndall at ucc.asn.au > Committee: committee-only at ucc.asn.au > > From atyndall at ucc.asn.au Tue Mar 29 09:25:15 2011 From: atyndall at ucc.asn.au (Ash Tyndall) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 09:25:15 +0800 Subject: [committee] Steam licensing for university computer club Message-ID: Hello Matt, I was given your email address by the Head of IT at a small high school who had a similar request and circumstances. I represent a computer enthusiasts club (creatively called the University Computer Club) based in the University of Western Australia. We are a NPO (and soon to be) incorporated entity run for and by students of UWA with a small clubroom on campus that contains a variety of old and new computer equipment. Throughout the year we run a variety of events, the most popular of which are the UCC LANs and UCC MegaLAN. My role on the UCC committee is to encourage fresher (first year) participation in club events. One way in which I hope to do that this year is to inquire about the options available to the club in regards to obtaining Steam accounts for use (only) by current members. These would be particularly useful in LAN events where some participants may not own Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead or any other game (Valve-created in particular) we may be playing. I did some research on this topic through the Steam and Valve websites, and it appears that neither the Valve Cafe or SourceU program criteria cover our circumstances. Any help you can give would be greatly appreciated. We would be completely happy to display the Valve/Steam logo on our sponsorship page, event posters and general club material. -- Ash Tyndall 2011 UCC Fresher Rep UCC Website: http://www.ucc.asn.au/ My Email: atyndall at ucc.asn.au Committee: committee-only at ucc.asn.au -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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