[committee] Committee Agenda

Mon Jun 2 21:41:26 AWST 2014

Doesn't ucc predate UWA's computer science department?

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Alex Dawson
604.763.4210

> On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:37 AM, Frames <oxinabox at ucc.asn.au> wrote:
> 
> To Sumerise my previous rant,
> without as much snarkyness.
> 
> Recmmendations:
> 1) Don't do a T-shirt run thil the end of they year. Then do Polo shirts 
> with a small logo.
> 2,3) No additional pressure is needed on Door/Coke/Members to empty the 
> bins/fill the vending machine.
> 4) Don't merge with CSSC, they are a different club with a different 
> purpose.
> 
> BTW, CSSC is not actually a shit club with shit members.
> They are a different club, with different members.
> Those members are not actually shit,
> I just have historically found UCCans to be involved in more insteasting 
> projects,
> (rather than just doing Comp Sci degree, they do interesting stuff with it.)
> and to be more socialbly people (this may be the first and only time 
> UCCans will be called more socialble :-P).
> 
> Regards
> [*OX]
> Wheel Member.
> 
> 
> Frames wrote:
>> sk0pe (being Pradyumm, being [VIJ]), is being wrong.
>> And will hopefully understand why when not a fresher.
>> or maybe through some form of education which I shall now attempt to
>> provide.
>> 
>> committee at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote:
>>> General Business
>>> ----------------
>>> sk0pe : Run t-shirt design competition with special editions for camp attendees and committee versions. Over holidays will  have more submissions?
>> This is vaguely resonable and was brought up by a fresher 3 meetings ago
>> anyway. (possible [VIJ] i don't recall).
>> Shirts in general:
>> Personally I think it is too soon, we did one early last year? which and
>> that was too soon after the last one for some of out members (ie me) who
>> got one the previous time around.
>> Perhaps at the end of the year.
>> I don't think a compention is a good idea, because that could end up
>> with us having a shirt that wasn't suitable for wearing to a place of work.
>> and that is one of the great  things about the UCC shirt from the last
>> two printings.
>> They look professional.
>> 
>> Re:Camp:
>> The Guilds prefered supplier for t-shirts doesn't do runs of less than 50.
>> I don't think we go through them for polos though -- how ever polos are
>> much more expensive than the screen printed ones you might get from some
>> camp.
>> At most 50 people will go the camp.
>> We could only do Camp T-shirts if everyone got one then.
>> Or if we went though another provider, in which case they would be
>> expensive.
>> 
>> 
>>> sk0pe : OCM and Door to be more diligent on dialy bin emptying, in addition to regular mmembers, possibly even door peopel who don't assist?
>> Or not.
>> It is not the duty of OCMs to empty the bin.
>> You are correct that it is the duty of door members to see the bin is
>> emptied.
>> (Wether themselves or through convincing someone else to do it.)
>> The committee is not going to encourage door members to pick a person at
>> random and say: "You, if you do not empty the bin you will be doored."
>> That is not reasonable.
>> People who won't help are normally busy.
>> Dooring people is for serious things.
>>   - Like physcally harming or risking harm to another member (I know of
>> people being doored for this three times. Varying from people throwing
>> stuff, to getting in a serious argument etc).
>>   - Disturbing everyone in the clubroom (normally by repeatedly shouting
>> or screaming at games)
>>   - Violating Rules central to the Objects of the club (I don't think
>> its been done but people have been threated with dooring unless they
>> give up a computer they are playing games on so someoen can do work.)
>> (BTW I have looked through the records of dooring (it actually only
>> started being done offically, not that long ago. The year i started is
>> the first time it is mentioned in minutes.))
>> 
>>> sk0pe : Door to check and fill up vending machine, Treasurer and Committee are not the only people that can do it.
>> Actually, you will find that Door members can't trivially fill the snack
>> machine.
>> (idk if we have merged door and coke yet? was that done? I thought that
>> would have come up at a General Meeting, it is vaguely a big deal.)
>> Coke members can't fill the machine without the key.
>> The key is not accessable to everyone, it is in the Machine Room, which
>> only wheel members have the key for.
>> I believe the Treasurer also has one.
>> So you will find that in seious way it *is* only the treasurer (and rest
>> of committee) who can do it.
>> 
>>>   Handing out Door rights like candy without making use of members seems counterintuitive.
>> Out Door  members do do stuff.
>> The ensure the room is hospitable.
>> They make sure our stuff doesn't get stolen.
>> They come to clean ups.
>> 
>> Out coke members (who may have been merged with door?)
>> Do stuff,
>> Many go on snack runs.
>> All put money onto peoples accounts.
>> 
>>> sk0pe : Possibly get meeting with Mitch and possibly Andrew and Chris McDonald in terms of gutting CSSC as they are shit club and replacing them with a branch of UCC. TTo make them feel happy about them give them power over their branch but make them all below executive?
>> No.
>> They have nothing we want. They do different things to us.
>> They are a school socitiety and act much like a faculty society. (I
>> don't think they are SOC affilated. They are affilated with the School
>> of Computer Sciece. CSSE. )
>> There Objectives is to look out for Comp Sci Students.
>> That is why they have positions on there committee for a male and female
>> 1st year, 2nd year, 3rd year rep etc
>> and a Post Grad Rep. and all kinds of weird positions (there committee
>> can be truely huge, like any Fac Soc)
>> Our objective is the Advancement of Computer Science.
>> We aren't looking out for students, we are looking out for the field.
>> It is for example within the scope of CSSC to go to the school of
>> computer science and lobby them to upgrade the computers in the labs
>> (prob won't work, but it is reasonable for them to try).
>> Doing that would not be reasonable for us to do. We might on behalf of
>> our members poke the guild to poke the uni about it.
>> They run sausage sizzles like every week for there members. We don't
>> care about that.
>> 
>> They are a shit club full of shit people, but thats fine cause we don't
>> have to interact with them. (They seem to have lost our phone number).
>> People we don't like can go over there.
>> Infact historically that has occured.
>> If we merged with them we would have to interact with them.
>> 
>> They have a tiny clubroom, that is negotated entirely seperately from
>> how ours is (because  as a school society they negotate with the school.
>> As a SOC affilated club we negotate with the Guild).
>> They no longer seem to have a website, I beleive that is because they
>> stopped paying us to host it for them.
>> 
>> 
>>> To make them feel happy about them
>>> give them power over their branch but make them all below executive?
>> You understand that that kinda change (and indeed any kind of true merge
>> rather than us swallowing someone whole) would require changing out
>> constiution.
>> which is a heavily involved multi-month project, as we are incorperated.
>> Also if there club is not happy about it (which if they have maintained
>> the historical anomisity between our clubs) it won't happen.
>> it would have to go through a general meeting, and would require a
>> greater majority (like 2/3rds).
>> This would only go through if there club has really gone down.
>> In which case let them fall.
>> People can just join UCC to get all UCC benifits.
>> If people want CSSC benifits (sausage sizzle) they can joine CSSC, it is
>> very cheap compaired to UCC.
>> 
>> Regards
>> [*OX]
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