[committee] What to do with the rainy day fund

Andrew Adamson bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au
Tue Jan 26 21:40:15 AWST 2016


Hi all,

So the OGM is rapidly approaching (this Friday), and there hasn't been a 
great deal of talk about what to do with the rainy day fund. I noticed 
some other people have started a conversation on the facebook page about 
the best interest rates for term deposits. I think we would be shooting 
ourselves in the foot to only look at term deposits this time around, 
given the available interest rates. Anyway, in case this isn't always 
clear, this is just my opinion:

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What we currently have:
A quick explanation because most of committee weren't members when we set 
this up, and I was treasurer at the time. A 60-month term deposit with 
Westpac that was set up for monthly payouts. If I recall correctly the 
monthly payout is something like $283 from an interest rate of 6.7%. We 
put 35% of that payout aside to offset inflation and grow the fund a 
little, leaving us about $184 to play with each month on top of our other 
income sources. This term deposit matures on March 25 of this year, at 
which point the best monthly rate offered by westpac is 2.9%. 

The 35% that is being put aside for reinvestment was originally being put 
into a cash reserve account with Westpac, because that gave us a non-zero 
rate on that cash while it was waiting to be added to the principal 
amount. Unfortunately Westpac then went and changed the account terms on 
us and we got zero interest because the balance is under $10k. I'm unsure 
if we changed the account to a different type after this, but even if we 
did it would only be getting about 1.05% - not great.

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What I think UCC needs (disclaimer: this is not investment advice and I am 
not a qualified professional): 

Payment frequency:
I think we need a stream of income coming in monthly rather than annually. 
That way we have a sensible amount of cash available most of the time and 
we're able to take advantage of times when people have the motivation to 
buy stuff or run events.

Fund growth: 
In the very long term the fund has the ability to grow and provide us with 
things like clubroom fitouts, and to provide things that will benefit all 
members of the club in the long term. For this the fund needs to maintain 
its value against inflation and grow as well. Funds being put aside for 
reinvestment is great and has worked okay-ish the past few years, but 
we're definitely losing out on compound interest while we wait to add it 
to the next term deposit. Ideally we would look at something that is more 
perpetual than a term deposit and allows us to reinvest immediately and 
automatically.

Fairly low risk:
We don't get given $50k every day - we can't afford to lose it. However, 
we can reasonably afford a short term drop in value (eg: drop to $45k for 
a year before recovering). If we have to, we can also afford a drop in 
payouts to around $100 for an indefinite period, though that wouldn't 
leave much room for exciting toys. We previously went for the term deposit 
because it was near-zero risk and had a good rate of return, but I think 
we could look at something with a slightly higher risk and rate of return.

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Possible solution: 

I think we should look at some sort of managed investment scheme, such as 
a managed fund [1]. This would allow us to diversify without having to 
manage it ourselves. Managed funds are perpetual so we would only have to 
revisit things if the fund were failing to perform.

I had a quick look at managed funds on the Westpac site [2], which then 
links to bt.com.au . There are a LOT of different funds available, with 
different levels of risk, different goals and different returns. A cursory 
glance at the list of funds on the BT site turned up the "BT Wholesale 
Monthly Income Plus Fund" [3], which looks to be in line with our goals in 
terms of maintaining the value of the initial investment and paying out 
monthly. If we decide to look at managed funds we should definitely get 
some advice on what to go with, though I've no idea where we should go for 
that advice. There are certainly many other funds we can look at if other 
people want to do so - and I encourage anyone attending the OGM to read up 
a bit on managed funds before the meeting, whether it be to find something 
that suits our needs or just to understand what they are.

[1] https://www.moneysmart.gov.au/investing/managed-funds
[2] http://www.westpac.com.au/personal-banking/investments/managed-funds/
[3] http://www.bt.com.au/investment/products/wholesale-funds/wholesale-monthly-income-plus-fund.asp

Andrew Adamson
bob at ucc.asn.au

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