[committee] [ucc] UCC OGM Item 2

Wed Jul 31 18:50:44 AWST 2019

Thanks Geordie,

I believe, though I may be wrong, that I’m being expelled for one or more of three reasons:

* Being transgender.

* Adam Adamson not liking me (possibly related to the above point)

* Retaliation for supporting Felix, who the same people are trying to remove as club president.

Given the amount of far right bullying I and others experienced previously at UCC, this is not a surprise.

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> On 31 Jul 2019, at 6:43 pm, Geordie Wilson <geordie.wilson at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> Would like to chime in that I think [ASH] brings up a very important point here.
> 
> From what I have gathered from today's dramatic back/forth, the lack of procedural fairness in what has been proposed would likely be a denial of natural justice in the legal sense.
> 
> It is important that a motion of expulsion is valid under the WA associations law. A layman's explanation of what i'm talking about can be found at page 74/75 here:
> https://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/sites/default/files/atoms/files/incaguideforincorporatedassociations.pdf
> 
> If Melissa has done something worthy of expulsion, it is important that the legal processes are followed to avoid the club being dragged into an expensive & embarrassing hearing at the State Administrative Tribunal; which she would be able to do at little expense to herself. This would be a big waste of club resources.
> 
> I recommend rescheduling the motions to a time when Melissa has the ability to respond, or giving Melissa a week to respond to the allegations in writing.
> 
> TLDR: If expulsion is warranted, do it properly to avoid the potential for expensive waste at the SAT.
> This means not denying someone natural justice. Natural justice is essentially a fair hearing. 
> i.e. the ability to respond to allegations & proposed consequences.
> 
> Warm regards
> Geordie Wilson [ACE]
> 
> From: ucc-bounces+ace=ucc.asn.au at ucc.asn.au <ucc-bounces+ace=ucc.asn.au at ucc.asn.au> on behalf of Ash Tyndall <ash at atyndall.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, 31 July 2019 6:18 PM
> To: Grace Rosario <20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au>
> Cc: ucc at ucc.asn.au <ucc at ucc.asn.au>; Elton Rodrigues <21721678 at student.uwa.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: [ucc] UCC OGM Item 2
>  
> I’m sorry, in what world is it consider fair for a person to be required to; a) defend themselves again completely unspecified accusations, b) at a meeting they cannot attend, c) with no appreciable notice, d) from persons who are remaining anonymous.
> 
> Whoever has listed the item has all the time in the world to prepare whatever case they have, it seems exceedingly unfair that this has been allowed to proceed in this way.
> 
> [ASH]
> Former wheel and committee member
> 
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 10:02 am, Grace Rosario <20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> Hi Elton,
> 
> The people who wish to move those motions will outline that at the meeting tomorrow.
> If there is no-one there willing to move them then they will not be moved.
> 
> Cheers,
> Grace 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, 31 July 2019, Elton Rodrigues <21721678 at student.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've been somewhat following this thing. Just wanting to clarify because I've probably missed it earlier, what are the exact actions that were committed without the clubs best interests in mind, and is there clear evidence of this?
> 
> Elton 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 2:17 PM Grace Rosario <20483992 at student.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
> Hi Alfred,
> 
> It came up at an OGM as apposed to a committee meeting because no-one on the committee requested it or motioned for it.
> 
> A member of the club felt that this matter which impacts the club should be brought up, and they requested that it be put on the agenda.
> As this is a general meeting, club members have a right to add items that they wish to be discussed to the agenda, and that's why it is there.
> 
> Item 2 comes up under the constitution in section 21.1:  21. Cancellation of Membership 1. The Club may cancel the membership of any member of the Club, should that member have acted in a manner contrary to the best interests of the Club.
> 
> As a member of the committee, I know that the committee has been dealing with ongoing fallout from the events earlier in the year, as I'm sure you know if you are keeping up with at least some of the minutes of the committee meetings.
> Personally, I believe that discussing this at a general meeting rather than a committee one would be better for ensuring that the discussion would be more inclusive of the diverse opinions of the club members and enable the club to make a decision without the committee being accused of acting with impropriety.
> 
> We have also, I believe, not had a committee meeting since the items were requested to be added to the agenda due to the university holidays and committee's availability.
> 
> I hope that all makes sense,
> 
> Cheers, 
> Grace
> 
> On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 at 13:35, alfred burgess <alfred.burgess95 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Grace, 
> 
> Just inquiring as to why item 2 is being brought up in the OGM as opposed to being done through a committee meeting, unless I have missed the minutes for said meeting which is plausible.
> 
> Not trying to come across as accusatory or such, just an inquiry.
> 
> Regards,
> [TBB] Alfred
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