I agree that physically securing the hardware will do something for us in terms of opportunistic theft, however i also think that something needs to be done in the way of stopping people breaking in. The theft of a mouse shows that they will take anything that looks like it is worth something, and this isn't something that can be (logically) locked down. I also think that the fear of actually getting caught on video (that they cant take out in any way) would scare most people off from even thinking about dropping into the clubroom (pardon the pun)<div>
<br></div><div>Furthermore, Whilst securing them down is great and all, all it takes is for word to get out that we are an easy target with valuables in our�room�and�before�we�know�it,�we�could�have�a�major�break�in�and�then�Kensington�locks�will�matter�close�to�zip�if�this�happens.�I�know�it�is�a�big�if,�but�its�not�like�it�hasn't�happened�on�campus�before.<br>
<br><div>I know this is most probably a lost cause, but in my eyes, UCC would not be what it is today without member donations, but if members are afraid of their items being stolen then they are less likely to donate such items to the club. Im looking at the bench where Rowan, Rufus and Heath's Machines used to be and there is a hell of a hole to fill there. These machines wot come back until the members are sure their gear is secure.</div>
<div><br></div><div>[M12]<br><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Scott Young <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:splintax@ucc.asn.au">splintax@ucc.asn.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
AFAIK, the vast majority of thefts in UCC have been opportunistic --<br>
theives have just grabbed stuff that was totally unsecured and easy to<br>
walk out with.<br>
<br>
I think physically securing valuable hardware and the clubroom itself<br>
(ie. moving to a clubroom which isn't fundamentally incapable of being<br>
properly secured) is going to be far more effective than increased<br>
security footage. After all, even if we have a decent-quality photo of<br>
the thief, that still doesn't make it particularly likely that we'll<br>
get our stolen hardware back.<br>
<br>
[SJY]<br>
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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Jeremy Cole<<a href="mailto:astro@jaram.net.au">astro@jaram.net.au</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hey all,<br>
> Hope exams went well for those of you who had them. After promising I would,<br>
> there has been a snack run done, I got huge amounts of peanut M&M's as that<br>
> was a popular request that never seemed to be at Cash and Carry. I also<br>
> stocked the machine and will take another look at the coke machine shortly<br>
> to see is any slots there can be filled.<br>
> As for the issue with the clubroom being broken into again, I think<br>
> something along the lines of getting a more�permanent�solution in the way of<br>
> keeping security within the clubroom needs to be seriously looked into. I<br>
> hate to bring this up as it is a�controversial�issue but we really need to<br>
> do something about getting the cameras on camwhore operational on a longer<br>
> timeline. I think the argument that we are impinging on peoples privacy is<br>
> falling away rather fast, as we have a choice here:<br>
> 1. Put up with people losing their stuff and the clubroom slowly being<br>
> stripped bare by�thieves to protect members right to privacy<br>
> 2. Accept that because this is a public place that there needs to be greater<br>
> security placed upon the room, and thus �keep a few decent frame rate<br>
> cameras pointed around the place as well as perhaps investing in some IR<br>
> lights<br>
> I don't have any problem with making these public to club members like some<br>
> people point out, if they are being filmed, they should have the right to<br>
> view the images they are in. Just remember that it could well be a member of<br>
> the club breaking into the clubroom. Members should feel safe to keep their<br>
> things in the clubroom if they donate them, but it is very clear they don't.<br>
> I have added an item to the agenda to get this looked into and voted upon<br>
> and i hope we can discuss what members think about this so we can please all<br>
> parties possible while still attracting members to donate items to the club<br>
> free of worry that they will be stolen.<br>
> Whilst securing things is a good idea, I think investing in a solution that<br>
> is better then the kensington style locks (which by the way can be cut with<br>
> a good pair of garden pruners) will be more prudent or at the very least a<br>
> further deterrent.<br>
> Thoughts and Suggestions?<br>
> Jeremy Cole<br>
> VP UCC 2009<br>
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