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    Discussion, Unigames Committee is having about CH Ball<br>
    Since The discussion on the UCC lists is going to be similar, I will
    save everyone some time,<br>
    and promote debate.<br>
    <br>
    The important points are:<br>
    <b>Need 165 Attendee's</b><br>
     For this to break even we need 165 guests.  That is more than
    teracon, wizard camp and ucc camp combined. The ticket price is
    going to be significantly higher than any of the those events. I
    question if we can pull this off.<br>
    <br>
    Cheaper, Less High Class options should be considered.<br>
    For sake of reference I threw together another option if we were to
    "build our own" rather than buying a turn key solution.<br>
    These are just things i could quickly find the price for online:<br>
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          if we were to rent the Perth Town Hall, </span><span
data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[2]">it
          would be about $1320.75, for 6 hours for 100 People</span><br
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        <span
data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[4]">that
          is including security guard, table's being set up and put
          away, but not including food or booze.</span><br
data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[5]">
        <span
data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[6]">Throw
          an extra $2000 for booze (that is 20 cartons of beer/cider and
          30 bottles of wine)</span><br
data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[7]">
        <span
data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[8]">Throw
          an extra $1500 for light catering (hot fingerfood, i priced
          from Miss Maud's, tghis would be a ton).</span><br
data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[9]">
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data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[10]">Throw
          $600 for a DJ/sound gear hire.</span><br
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        <br
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        <span
data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[13]">Rounding
          up that is $5500. (Vs $21,000 at Hilton)</span></span></span><br>
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data-reactid=".r[29cd4].[1][3][1]{comment628509183872852_629019303821840}.[0].{right}.[0].{left}.[0].[0].[0][3].[0].[20]">So
          selling tickets for $85 each to get a $3000 profit.</span></span></span>
    (Vs $130 at the Hilton)<br>
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    I have attached the full transcipt below.<br>
    My apologies for the aweful HTML email.<br>
    [*OX]<br>
    UCC Wheel Member<br>
    Unigames IPP<br>
    Grumpy Old Dude<br>
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              This is a copy of the discussion about a propopsed CH
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          <div><span class="userContent">So had a meeting at the Hilton
              with regards to the Triforce Ball. In a one sentence
              summary, it was productive, we are getting an awesome
              deal, and the staff at seem pretty good at working with
              students.<br>
              There are heaps of details that we have decided on, which
              I can talk about in the meeting if you so wish, but
              considering our financial situation (which is decent but
              nowhere near the other two clubs) I suggested that we
              split the deposit/costs 20% Unigames, and 40% each for the
              two other clubs. Keep in mind, paying 20% of costs means
              20% of profits (though profits will not be immense). This
              is the Lower risk/lower reward option.<br>
              <br>
              Ultimately what this means for Unigames in the short term
              is a $1000 deposit before the 19th of Dec. I highly
              recommend taking this course of action. Like seriously
              this better pass at the next meeting.<br>
              <br>
              Speaking of which, organise Uncharitable Vigil/ get event
              page up ASAP plz.<br>
              And I finish work on Monday at 5:30... but will come try
              and make it to uni as soon as possible after.</span></div>
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                              suppose I'll elaborate a bit (since I
                              won't be there at the start of the
                              meeting...)</span><br
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                              total the ball will cost 26,055. including
                              a 5000 bond which is refundable (ie net
                              cost will be 21,055). OUR club will need
                              to deposit 1k now, and another 1.4k ne</span></span><span
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                                year before we start ticket sales. We
                                will very likely get a lion nathan grant
                                from guild to help out. After ticket
                                sales start we should be fine for money.
                                In the last two years only 1 ball has
                                ever lost part of their deposit (for
                                damages) but we are budgeting such that
                                should we have our full deposit
                                returned, we will gain a significant
                                profit (about $3000 between the clubs,
                                ie Unigames will get about $600).</span><br
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                                are currently planning on selling
                                tickets for $130 each, or $134 if bought
                                online...</span><br
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                                you have ANY more questions, we
                                discussed a huge amount of details at
                                the meeting (like half the organization
                                has already been done) Please try to
                                bring up questions on fb BEFORE the
                                meeting on Monday so that we don't have
                                to talk about it for ages/can spend more
                                time on uncharitable vigil.</span></span></span></span></span><span
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                            this is actually a thing?</span></span></span><span
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                        Ashwin</a><span
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                            Ryan, this is indeed a thing.</span></span></span><span
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                        Xyrrath Nicholson</a><span
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                            yeah I should probably mention that the date
                            we are planning on booking for is the
                            6/9/2014</span></span></span><span
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                            we are investing 2.4k for a $600 profit?</span></span></span><span
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                            date do we expect returns?</span></span></span><span
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                            many people need to attend to ensure we
                            cover the costs?</span></span></span><span
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                              Yes, though not only is it the best thing
                              we could be doing with our money, but its
                              also providing a service to members.</span><br
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                              we plan to start closed ticket sales in
                              the last week of semester one, so returns
                              should start then (and continue over the
                              wi</span></span><span
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                                break) Ticket sales then open up to
                                general public come the start of
                                semester 2.</span><br
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                                We are budgeting for 180 people, though
                                we have room for 200 (or maybe even
                                more) to attend should demand be larger
                                then we expect. We have discussed ALOT
                                of plans with regards to hitting this
                                target of 180. (minimum number of
                                attendees to cover costs will vary, as
                                costs are not entirely set in stone, but
                                so long as we get above 165 I believe we
                                will break even.)</span></span></span></span></span><span
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                              attendee's is pretty unlikely.</span><br
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                              people makes this bigger than wizard camp,
                              UCC camp and Teracon combined. and more
                              expensive ticket price than any one of
                              them.</span><br
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                              had allot of people have issues paying for
                              Wizard Camp because it was too expensiv</span></span><span
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                                didn't get that attendance at charity
                                vigil,</span><br
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                                charity vigil is cheaper.</span><br
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                                could argue that people will bring
                                partners to this, but people did to
                                charity vigil as well.</span><br
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                                are not investing in a 20% share of the
                                profit, we are investing in a 20% share
                                of the loss.</span><br
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                                Hilton is, as I've said before, are
                                really dumb venue.</span><br
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                                is far too upscale and is priced like
                                it.</span><br
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                                we want to do this at all, we should go
                                for something far lower key, this first
                                time, and if it works out, then we can
                                do something better next year.</span></span></span></span></span><span
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                              is including security guard, table's being
                              set up and put away, but not including
                              food or booze.</span></span><span
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                                an extra $2000 for booze (that is 20
                                cartons of beer/cider and 30 bottles of
                                wine)</span><br
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                                an extra $1500 for light catering (hot
                                fingerfood, i priced from Miss Maud's,
                                tghis would be a ton).</span><br
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                                $600 for a DJ/sound gear hire.</span><br
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                                up that is $5500. (Vs $21,000 at Hilton)</span><br
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                                would be a less high key even than
                                something at the hilton, but it would
                                still be pretty fancy.</span><br
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                                is the Perth Town Hall, for goodness
                                sake.</span><br
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                                selling tickets for $85 each to get a
                                $3000 profit.</span><br
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                                not saying the town hall is the best
                                place, but there are cheaper, places
                                that the bleeding Hilton. This price is
                                just what i could look up on short
                                notice, without getting quotes.</span></span></span></span></span><span
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                              doesn't help that it's directly competing
                              with Wizard Camp/Terracon/UCC camp for the
                              'expensive Cameron hall event' slot.
                              People aren't going to be willing to fork
                              out large amounts of money to attend
                              multiple of these events within a
                              relatively sho</span></span><span
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                                time frame, particularly the freshers.</span><br
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                                a result, I don't believe that we will
                                reasonably be able to sell more tickets
                                than Terracon can, and at a higher price
                                too. Sure, it has some novelty in being
                                the unique 'Cameron Ball', but I'd wager
                                that this would turn more people away
                                than attract them. </span><br
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                                addition, even if we do manage to break
                                even, I would expect to see people much
                                less willing to attend the other
                                expensive events as they've already
                                spent so much. If it came down to people
                                deciding only to attend one camp and the
                                ball, I would not expect a strong
                                showing at Wizard Camp.</span><br
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                                - I still think the ball is a bad idea
                                and I feel that it directly competes
                                with future Unigames events.</span></span></span></span></span><span
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                              I suppose its my job to reply to these
                              complaints. The way I see it there are 3
                              big complaints: a) doubt that we will
                              reach the numbers required, b) competition
                              with other events and c) less expensive
                              alternatives would be preferable.</span><br
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                              This is</span></span><span
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                                the most legit complaint imo and it
                                ultimately gets broken down into two
                                parts. One is that we don't get enough
                                people full stop, which I believe won't
                                happen. There is already serious
                                expressed interest in 1-2 tables for
                                curtins Sci-Fi club (who might be
                                considering running their own) It would
                                be easy as pie for me to sell 1-2 tables
                                worth of tickets to guild hacks. IMO
                                science union would probs grab a table,
                                if tickets go on general sale I think
                                there would be at least a few more
                                tables sold to people who REALLY want
                                balls but are missing out on them (which
                                is actually quite a large group outside
                                of cameron hall). Then keep in mind that
                                people in Cameron Hall will be bringing
                                +1's and friends (moreso then an event
                                like Terracon) and we only need to sell
                                16-17 tables to break even (pretty sure
                                Unigames could get at least 1, UCC get
                                at least 1 or 2 and Unisfa already would
                                be looking at 5-6 tables.) </span><br
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                                second part of this complaint is that
                                the event will be flooded with people
                                who aren't even a part of the
                                clubs/non-members... this is also a
                                legit complaint though we will try as
                                best in presales to make sure EVERYONE
                                who wants to go amongst the clubs can,
                                and hey, if the night is successful we
                                may even get more members out of the
                                event.</span><br
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                                This answer should also help the case
                                for a) since it implies increased demand
                                for tickets. Terracon Will Not Be
                                Happening Next Year. This means there
                                will be No competition with terracon
                                (though still competition with UCC camp/
                                Unigames Camp) Terracon is by FAR the
                                largest, and a lot of the people who
                                normally go to it would love something
                                else to try out/replace the event with.
                                I do see the complaint about competition
                                with our own events, but this year is
                                the BEST year for it (as terracon is
                                very likely to come back in 2015). Also
                                when it comes down to it, if we are
                                talking about it being a bad thing that
                                we run too many events and that they are
                                interfering with one another it seems a
                                little self defeating <span
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                                  title=":\"></span> Like one way of
                                looking at this is that it shows
                                Unigames as a club capable of running
                                well organized events of any
                                description, which makes us MORE
                                appealing, not less. A busy timetable
                                can be a good thing.</span><br
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                              <span
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                                We have looked into some less expensive
                                alternatives, but ultimately we decided
                                amongst the ball committee (/Kate
                                strongly pressed for) a fancier ball.
                                Trust me the Hilton is REALLY NICE.
                                Especially for the price we are getting
                                it. Organizing seperate catering,
                                completely organizing our own
                                decorations (to the point where a town
                                hall looks respectable) as well as our
                                own lights/music, bartenders/open bar,
                                dance floor, security and other staff is
                                a nightmarish responsibility, and if
                                anything goes wrong we are to blame. The
                                Hilton not only has experience in all of
                                this but their food is good quality, and
                                every single ball held there in the last
                                year was an incredible success (not to
                                mention tickets sold out for ALL of them
                                within a week of being on sale, showing
                                again the huge demand for them (amongst
                                the wider university))</span><br
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                                ultimately the Ball Committee (the
                                people actually organizing it) have
                                decided this as the best venue. And what
                                it comes down to is not whether the
                                event *could* be better, but a kind of
                                Yes/No as to whether this event we are
                                suggesting sounds like a worthwhile
                                investment for Unigames. I could
                                negotiate to pay even less of the
                                deposit... maybe, though keeping in mind
                                we are already paying half/getting half.
                                But this is looking like it will be a
                                profitable event, regardless of the
                                money we have to outlay (which would be
                                doing absolutely nothing otherwise), and
                                every profitable event we have in the
                                year is a good thing in my books.</span><br
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                                understand that these don't necessarily
                                address all of the concerns, and are not
                                entirely complete answers (as some are
                                based on speculation, especially answer
                                a) but I hope this at least addresses
                                some concerns.</span></span></span></span></span><span
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                            keep in mind that people in Cameron Hall
                            will be bringing +1's and friends (moreso
                            then an event like Terracon)"</span><br
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                            than terracon? Citation needed. I suspect if
                            you ask Alice, for the list of teracon
                            attendee's you will find large numbers of
                            nonCH regulars.</span><br
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                            for reference how many people to a table?</span></span></span><span
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                            the point of that statement was it is easier
                            to convince a non member to come to an event
                            for one night, located in perth, then to
                            drive 3 hours to hang out for 3 days with a
                            bunch of people they may not know very well.
                            This would be especially true for couples
                            where one of the couple is a non-member/
                            doesn't really know anyone. They *do* come
                            on Terracon occasionally but are few and far
                            between.</span></span></span><span
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                              I see, I honestly would like you to back
                              that up with numbers.</span><br
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                              You are strawman-ing slightly there. The
                              complain wasn't clash with own events, it
                              was Clash with other expensive events.
                              Also Citation on Teracon not happening. I
                              spoke to the dire</span></span><span
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                                os student services, a few weeks back,
                                and as far as he was concerned it could
                                happen again and that they had already
                                had talked with Unisfa about how to make
                                sure it could</span></span></span></span></span><span
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                            its a slight Strawman <span class="emoticon
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                            there is still alot of truth behind it and
                            Terracon is still classed as an expensive
                            event. Speak to ANYONE in unisfa committee,
                            and you'll know that its practically
                            guaranteed not to happen next year. Also it
                            is very difficult for me to back up a) with
                            numbers, as you well know, but I assure you
                            it will be the most enthusiastically
                            advertised event of the year.</span></span></span><span
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                              "The ball Committee"? Neither Unigames,
                              nor UCC has ever voted to put a
                              representativeness on a Ball Committee.
                              Neither UCC or Unigames has voted to put a
                              person onto the CH forum either (and thus
                              CH forum has no mandate).</span><br
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                              don't be too influen</span></span><span
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                                by Kate. While she is influential and
                                good at arguing her points. She is far
                                from a typical member, these days. Her
                                priorities are different.</span><br
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                                is not a undergrad student (is she even
                                a student all all?),</span><br
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                                she has alot more money than most. I
                                don't think she has ever been in a
                                position alot of CH people have, of
                                having to scrimp for food money.</span><br
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                                you been to the Town Hall? I was at a
                                wedding there a few weeks back. It is
                                swanky, and nice. We wouldn't need to
                                spend hardly anything on decorating.</span></span></span></span></span><span
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                              it is not at all hard to back up teracons
                              attendance with numbers of nonCH regular
                              attendee's. I can do that myself,
                              trivially. I know Unisfa has a list of all
                              attendees from this year, as it was given
                              to the University as part of the complaint
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                            numbers an option would be to Super PreSell
                            tickets, prior to the deposit being made,
                            at/below cost. Super Early Bird. This would
                            give some idea of how much actual intrest
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                              a Unigames meeting we did agree that me
                              and Sarah were the representatives in
                              charge of the ball. Sam Shenton (who
                              supposedly has the power to speak on
                              behalf of his committee... at least moreso
                              then anyone else) is representative from
                              UCC, so I fee</span></span><span
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                                like the committee was actually a thing
                                that people agreed to. Though I will
                                take your suggestion of town hall to
                                Kate and seriously debate it out. also I
                                don't really mind if you share the
                                thread, but keep in mind alot of the
                                details aren't completely set in stone.</span></span></span></span></span><span
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                            Hall isn't actually my suggestion, it is
                            more just an example that other options
                            exist.</span><br
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                            i do think that the Town Hall could work,
                            quiet well.)</span><br
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                            selection you and Sarah as representatives
                            in charge of the ball, at least my thoughts
                            on that discussion, was the committee took
                            the idea of a ball so seriously, that we
                            might as well have said: "Yes, you guys can
                            be king and queen of R'lyeh."</span><br
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                            yeah, you are right, that was generally
                            agreed to.</span></span></span><span
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                            did a count for 2009 (my first year), a
                            fairly conservitive year for bringing
                            outsiders, and oursiders made up: 18/61
                            attendee's ie 29%</span><br
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                            2012, a notably high year for outsiders,
                            39/101 ie 39%</span><br
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                            counts are kinda rough, but should provide a
                            some indication.</span></span></span></font></div>
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                            would Science Union grab a table?</span><br
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                            not heard of members beyond there committee
                            being around and involved, though i guess
                            that is because they haven't finished
                            setting there room up.</span><br
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                            think their committee is going to buy a
                            table?</span><br
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                            $130/ticket that is quiet a show of support</span></span></span><span
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                            C) "(not to mention tickets sold out for ALL
                            of them within a week of being on sale,
                            showing again the huge demand for them
                            (amongst the wider university))"</span><br
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                            many of those balls held there before were
                            Faculty Soc. Balls? Fac Socs have thousands
                            of members, only a small portion of which
                            attend the ball.</span><br
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                            are in the opposite position, we have at
                            best a pool of hundreds of people who might
                            be interested, (inc partners and friends),
                            the majority of which would have to attend
                            for us to get the numbers we need.</span><br
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                            be over confidant with the ability to get
                            numbers. JVB thought we could easily 60
                            people for wizard camp.</span></span></span><span
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                            would just like to point out that Frames
                            more conservative estimates of Wizard Camp
                            attendance turned out to be much more
                            accurate than the wild "we'll easily get
                            60+!" estimates committee was coming up with
                            at the time.</span><br
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                            frames already pointed that out, didn't see
                            that! Anyway point seconded)</span></span></span><span
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