<div dir="ltr">Having dusted myself off after a brief period on the floor after falling off my chair at the cost, I'd make the following points as someone who's organised a couple of conferences, awards evenings and has the hindsight of being a past president trying to get UCC members interested.<div>
<br></div><div>1: 165 or 180 people (whichever one of the figures you use from the above emails) is ambitious - even with packing out 16% from Curtin and Science Union and possibly another 11% for "Guild Hacks" leaves you with a considerable number of tickets the clubs must sell to make the event viable and I'll be blunt I don't think you'll get enough interest, that's just my 2 cents though.</div>
<div><br></div><div>2: A set 3 course meal creates more hassle with having to manage dietary requirements and is likely more costly, was a buffet considered? It's not as swish but may actually work better, especially for the crowd?</div>
<div><br></div><div>3: The above costs don't include any entertainment, decorations/staging, ticketing or marketing - these costs are likely another $4,000-$7,000 depending on how elaborate you are with the decor/staging/lighting so the cost actually looks more like $30,000.</div>
<div><br></div><div>3.1: As such, is it worth the financial risk to the club, especially given how much money must be forfeited.</div><div><br></div><div>3.2: I'm also concerned about the trade-offs around the club (especially decreasing funds left to do things like fixing up the clubroom etc) given the commitment</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">3.3: What's the ROI, the objects of the club aren't achieved by committing to this event and while it's a lovely social opportunity I wonder if its the sensible investment when perhaps an alternate cheaper events (I know, I know...it's been considered and the ball committee think this is best - maybe a ball is the wrong idea altogether).</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>As [SZM] has also said, we have our 40th anniversary next year which should be considered in the event space.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Yours antisocially and black cloudly</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">[MRD]<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:35 PM, Frames <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oxinabox@ucc.asn.au" target="_blank">oxinabox@ucc.asn.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
Discussion, Unigames Committee is having about CH Ball<br>
Since The discussion on the UCC lists is going to be similar, I will
save everyone some time,<br>
and promote debate.<br>
<br>
The important points are:<br>
<b>Need 165 Attendee's</b><br>
�For this to break even we need 165 guests.� That is more than
teracon, wizard camp and ucc camp combined. The ticket price is
going to be significantly higher than any of the those events. I
question if we can pull this off.<br>
<br>
Cheaper, Less High Class options should be considered.<br>
For sake of reference I threw together another option if we were to
"build our own" rather than buying a turn key solution.<br>
These are just things i could quickly find the price for online:<br>
<span><span><span>
if we were to rent the Perth Town Hall, </span><span>it
would be about $1320.75, for 6 hours for 100 People</span><br>
<span>that
is including security guard, table's being set up and put
away, but not including food or booze.</span><br>
<span>Throw
an extra $2000 for booze (that is 20 cartons of beer/cider and
30 bottles of wine)</span><br>
<span>Throw
an extra $1500 for light catering (hot fingerfood, i priced
from Miss Maud's, tghis would be a ton).</span><br>
<span>Throw
$600 for a DJ/sound gear hire.</span><br>
<br>
<span>Rounding
up that is $5500. (Vs $21,000 at Hilton)</span></span></span><br>
<span><span><span>So
selling tickets for $85 each to get a $3000 profit.</span></span></span>
(Vs $130 at the Hilton)<br>
<br>
<br>
I have attached the full transcipt below.<br>
My apologies for the aweful HTML email.<br>
[*OX]<br>
UCC Wheel Member<br>
Unigames IPP<br>
Grumpy Old Dude<br>
<h5>
<div><br>
<br>
<div>
<h1><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br>
This is a copy of the discussion about a propopsed CH
ball, from the Unigames Committee Facebook.</font></h1>
<h1><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">(Accurate to
8:34PM today, relitive timestamps inconsistant.)</font></h1>
<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font> <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font> <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font> <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part1.00070205.03060100@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin?hc_location=stream" target="_blank">Rowan
Ashwin</a></font></div>
</h5>
<h5> <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span>
<div><span>So had a meeting at the Hilton
with regards to the Triforce Ball. In a one sentence
summary, it was productive, we are getting an awesome
deal, and the staff at seem pretty good at working with
students.<br>
There are heaps of details that we have decided on, which
I can talk about in the meeting if you so wish, but
considering our financial situation (which is decent but
nowhere near the other two clubs) I suggested that we
split the deposit/costs 20% Unigames, and 40% each for the
two other clubs. Keep in mind, paying 20% of costs means
20% of profits (though profits will not be immense). This
is the Lower risk/lower reward option.<br>
<br>
Ultimately what this means for Unigames in the short term
is a $1000 deposit before the 19th of Dec. I highly
recommend taking this course of action. Like seriously
this better pass at the next meeting.<br>
<br>
Speaking of which, organise Uncharitable Vigil/ get event
page up ASAP plz.<br>
And I finish work on Monday at 5:30... but will come try
and make it to uni as soon as possible after.</span></div>
</span></font></h5>
<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><span><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this" target="_blank">Like</a></span> � <label title="Leave a comment"></label>
� <span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Stop getting
notified when someone comments" target="_blank">Unfollow
Post</a></span> � </span><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/" target="_blank"><abbr title="Friday, 6 December 2013 at 16:01">6 December at 16:01</abbr></a></span></span></font>
<ul>
<li><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><br>
</font> </li>
<li><font face="Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif"><a rel="dialog" href="https://www.facebook.com/browse/group_message_viewers?id=628509183872852" target="_blank"><span></span><span>Seen by 8</span></a></font></li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part1.00070205.03060100@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank">Rowan
Ashwin</a><span>
</span><span><span><span><span>I
suppose I'll elaborate a bit (since I
won't be there at the start of the
meeting...)</span><br>
<span>In
total the ball will cost 26,055. including
a 5000 bond which is refundable (ie net
cost will be 21,055). OUR club will need
to deposit 1k now, and another 1.4k ne</span></span><span><span><span>xt
year before we start ticket sales. We
will very likely get a lion nathan grant
from guild to help out. After ticket
sales start we should be fine for money.
In the last two years only 1 ball has
ever lost part of their deposit (for
damages) but we are budgeting such that
should we have our full deposit
returned, we will gain a significant
profit (about $3000 between the clubs,
ie Unigames will get about $600).</span><br>
<span>We
are currently planning on selling
tickets for $130 each, or $134 if bought
online...</span><br>
<span>If
you have ANY more questions, we
discussed a huge amount of details at
the meeting (like half the organization
has already been done) Please try to
bring up questions on fb BEFORE the
meeting on Monday so that we don't have
to talk about it for ages/can spend more
time on uncharitable vigil.</span></span></span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=628525873871183&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Friday, 6
December 2013 at 17:11">6
December at 17:11</abbr></a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Xyrrath" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part13.01000606.01010103@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Xyrrath" target="_blank">Ryan
Xyrrath Nicholson</a><span>
</span><span><span><span>wait,
this is actually a thing?</span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=628541233869647&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Friday, 6
December 2013 at 18:06">6
December at 18:06</abbr></a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a><span>
� </span><a rel="dialog" href="https://www.facebook.com/browse/likes?id=628541233869647" target="_blank"><span>1</span></a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part1.00070205.03060100@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank">Rowan
Ashwin</a><span>
</span><span><span><span>Yes
Ryan, this is indeed a thing.</span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=628542430536194&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Friday, 6
December 2013 at 18:12">6
December at 18:12</abbr></a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Xyrrath" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part13.01000606.01010103@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Xyrrath" target="_blank">Ryan
Xyrrath Nicholson</a><span>
</span><span><span><span>disgusting</span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=628542607202843&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Friday, 6
December 2013 at 18:12">6
December at 18:12</abbr></a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part1.00070205.03060100@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank">Rowan
Ashwin</a><span>
</span><span><span><span>(Oh
yeah I should probably mention that the date
we are planning on booking for is the
6/9/2014</span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=628542623869508&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Friday, 6
December 2013 at 18:12">6
December at 18:12</abbr></a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.vanburen.5" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part34.00090506.07020903@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.vanburen.5" target="_blank">Jonathan
Van Buren</a><span>
</span><span><span><span>So
we are investing 2.4k for a $600 profit?</span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=628591250531312&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Friday, 6
December 2013 at 21:00">6
December at 21:00</abbr></a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.vanburen.5" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part34.00090506.07020903@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.vanburen.5" target="_blank">Jonathan
Van Buren</a><span>
</span><span><span><span>What
date do we expect returns?</span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=628591520531285&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Friday, 6
December 2013 at 21:01">6
December at 21:01</abbr></a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.vanburen.5" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part34.00090506.07020903@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/jonathan.vanburen.5" target="_blank">Jonathan
Van Buren</a><span>
</span><span><span><span>How
many people need to attend to ensure we
cover the costs?</span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=628591733864597&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Friday, 6
December 2013 at 21:02">6
December at 21:02</abbr></a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part1.00070205.03060100@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank">Rowan
Ashwin</a><span>
</span><span><span><span><span>a)
Yes, though not only is it the best thing
we could be doing with our money, but its
also providing a service to members.</span><br>
<span>b)
we plan to start closed ticket sales in
the last week of semester one, so returns
should start then (and continue over the
wi</span></span><span><span><span>nter
break) Ticket sales then open up to
general public come the start of
semester 2.</span><br>
<span>c)
We are budgeting for 180 people, though
we have room for 200 (or maybe even
more) to attend should demand be larger
then we expect. We have discussed ALOT
of plans with regards to hitting this
target of 180. (minimum number of
attendees to cover costs will vary, as
costs are not entirely set in stone, but
so long as we get above 165 I believe we
will break even.)</span></span></span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=628704740519963&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Saturday, 7
December 2013 at 02:22">Yesterday
at 02:22</abbr></a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/oxinabox" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part54.02060101.09020907@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/oxinabox" target="_blank">Lyndon
'Frames' White</a><span>
</span><span><span><span><span>165
attendee's is pretty unlikely.</span><br>
<span>165
people makes this bigger than wizard camp,
UCC camp and Teracon combined. and more
expensive ticket price than any one of
them.</span><br>
<span>We
had allot of people have issues paying for
Wizard Camp because it was too expensiv</span></span><span><span><span>e.</span><br>
<br>
<span>We
didn't get that attendance at charity
vigil,</span><br>
<span>and
charity vigil is cheaper.</span><br>
<span>One
could argue that people will bring
partners to this, but people did to
charity vigil as well.</span><br>
<br>
<span>We
are not investing in a 20% share of the
profit, we are investing in a 20% share
of the loss.</span><br>
<span>The
Hilton is, as I've said before, are
really dumb venue.</span><br>
<span>It
is far too upscale and is priced like
it.</span><br>
<span>If
we want to do this at all, we should go
for something far lower key, this first
time, and if it works out, then we can
do something better next year.</span></span></span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=629014180489019&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Saturday, 7
December 2013 at 19:59">17
hours ago</abbr></a><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" rel="dialog" title="Show edit history" target="_blank">Edited</a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/oxinabox" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part54.02060101.09020907@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/oxinabox" target="_blank">Lyndon
'Frames' White</a><span>
</span><span><span><span><span>As
a comparison, if we were to rent the Perth
Town Hall,</span><br>
<span>it
would be about $1320.75, for 6 hours for
100 People</span><br>
<span>that
is including security guard, table's being
set up and put away, but not including
food or booze.</span></span><span><span><br>
<span>Throw
an extra $2000 for booze (that is 20
cartons of beer/cider and 30 bottles of
wine)</span><br>
<span>Throw
an extra $1500 for light catering (hot
fingerfood, i priced from Miss Maud's,
tghis would be a ton).</span><br>
<span>Throw
$600 for a DJ/sound gear hire.</span><br>
<br>
<span>Rounding
up that is $5500. (Vs $21,000 at Hilton)</span><br>
<span>This
would be a less high key even than
something at the hilton, but it would
still be pretty fancy.</span><br>
<span>It
is the Perth Town Hall, for goodness
sake.</span><br>
<br>
<span>So
selling tickets for $85 each to get a
$3000 profit.</span><br>
<br>
<span>I'm
not saying the town hall is the best
place, but there are cheaper, places
that the bleeding Hilton. This price is
just what i could look up on short
notice, without getting quotes.</span></span></span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=629019303821840&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Saturday, 7
December 2013 at 19:48">17
hours ago</abbr></a><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" rel="dialog" title="Show edit history" target="_blank">Edited</a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a><span>
� </span><a rel="dialog" href="https://www.facebook.com/browse/likes?id=629019303821840" target="_blank"><span>1</span></a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/benjamin.armstrong.9404" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part67.01000804.07060709@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/benjamin.armstrong.9404" target="_blank">Benjamin
Armstrong</a><span>
</span><span><span><span><span>It
doesn't help that it's directly competing
with Wizard Camp/Terracon/UCC camp for the
'expensive Cameron hall event' slot.
People aren't going to be willing to fork
out large amounts of money to attend
multiple of these events within a
relatively sho</span></span><span><span><span>rt
time frame, particularly the freshers.</span><br>
<br>
<span>As
a result, I don't believe that we will
reasonably be able to sell more tickets
than Terracon can, and at a higher price
too. Sure, it has some novelty in being
the unique 'Cameron Ball', but I'd wager
that this would turn more people away
than attract them. </span><br>
<br>
<span>In
addition, even if we do manage to break
even, I would expect to see people much
less willing to attend the other
expensive events as they've already
spent so much. If it came down to people
deciding only to attend one camp and the
ball, I would not expect a strong
showing at Wizard Camp.</span><br>
<br>
<span>tl;dr
- I still think the ball is a bad idea
and I feel that it directly competes
with future Unigames events.</span></span></span></span></span><span></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/permalink/628509183872852/?comment_id=629184413805329&offset=0&total_comments=23" target="_blank"><abbr title="Sunday, 8
December 2013 at 01:59">11
hours ago</abbr></a><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" rel="dialog" title="Show edit history" target="_blank">Edited</a></span><span>
� </span><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/unigamescommittee11/628509183872852/?notif_t=group_comment_reply#" title="Like this comment" target="_blank">Like</a><span>
� </span><a rel="dialog" href="https://www.facebook.com/browse/likes?id=629184413805329" target="_blank"><span>1</span></a></font></div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</li>
<li>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank"><img src="cid:part1.00070205.03060100@ucc.asn.au" alt=""></a></font></div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><a href="https://www.facebook.com/rowan.ashwin" target="_blank">Rowan
Ashwin</a><span>
</span><span><span><span><span>Eugh,
I suppose its my job to reply to these
complaints. The way I see it there are 3
big complaints: a) doubt that we will
reach the numbers required, b) competition
with other events and c) less expensive
alternatives would be preferable.</span><br>
<br>
<span>a)
This is</span></span><span><span><span>
the most legit complaint imo and it
ultimately gets broken down into two
parts. One is that we don't get enough
people full stop, which I believe won't
happen. There is already serious
expressed interest in 1-2 tables for
curtins Sci-Fi club (who might be
considering running their own) It would
be easy as pie for me to sell 1-2 tables
worth of tickets to guild hacks. IMO
science union would probs grab a table,
if tickets go on general sale I think
there would be at least a few more
tables sold to people who REALLY want
balls but are missing out on them (which
is actually quite a large group outside
of cameron hall). Then keep in mind that
people in Cameron Hall will be bringing
+1's and friends (moreso then an event
like Terracon) and we only need to sell
</span></span></span></span></span></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></li></ul></div>...<br><br>[Message clipped]��</blockquote></div><br></div></div>