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<p>Thank you for updating the notices Oscar.</p>
<p>However, I was unaware of the change of location (I have not
attended a committee meeting this semester due to having a class
during that time). While having the location on the display is a
very good idea, the official notice did say the clubroom (hence my
email).</p>
<p>I do suggest that this incident be minuted in the next meeting,
even if it is not discussed in detail.<br>
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John Hodge [TPG]<br>
Less grumpy today.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/09/16 11:52, Oscar Hermoso wrote:<br>
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<div>This whole drama is ridiculous.<br>
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[TPG], you should have known that the meeting is in the
CCZ, meetings have been held there for months. It even
says so on Cerberus, at the entrance to the clubroom.
Also, [DJF], our treasurer, was in the clubroom and at 4PM
he mentioned he was going to be late to the committee
meeting, obviously implying that the meeting wouldn't be
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[BLZ], that's a horrible reply - and you know it. Notice of
meetings is absolutely useless without a location, that's
common sense. Whether the constitution says it or not, the
correct location should absolutely be contained within the
meeting notices.<br>
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<div>I've gone and updated the meeting scipts to contain the
correct location. Apologies that it wasn't done earlier.<br>
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UCC already has enough drama as it is, please don't add to it
unnecessarily. This situation doesn't need to be brought up at
the next committee meeting. Nothing will come of it, it will
simply extend the meeting and in get in the way of productive
conversation.<br>
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<div>Regards,<br>
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<div>[CHS]<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 8:18 AM, Grace
Rosario <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div dir="ltr">Hey Elton,
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<div>Do you mean dismiss the fact that John raised a
valid point in an email where I cannot see offensive
material, unless it was the presumption that the
secretary may not be doing his job by not using the
official channels to communicate?</div>
<div>Or dismiss the idea that the committee could have
responded to it in a more congenial manner?<br>
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<div>Sweeping it under the rug won't help.</div>
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<div>Grace Rosario</div>
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03:06, Elton Rodrigues <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div dir="ltr">Hi everyone,
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<div>It's clear to see this discussion could
have been handled better. I believe it is only
reasonable to try and resolve this by starting
afresh. I would like to propose this matter be
considered dismissed and any issues can be
raised again in an appropriate and respectful
manner.�</div>
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<div>Elton Rodrigues</div>
<div>Social Vice President</div>
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2016 at 01:48, Alex Dawson <span
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<div style="direction:inherit">This
isn't a parliamentary enquiry
under oath - get off your high
horse and fix the damn email auto
notification to display the
correct location :P</div>
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<div>Alex Dawson</div>
<div><span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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On Sep 29, 2016, at 12:47 AM,
Cain Nixey <<a
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<div><span>Hi John Hodge,</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>Whilst I appreciate the
intent of your email, I feel
that your exact </span><br>
<span>presentation is hostile
in nature. I do not
appreciate what I consider
to </span><br>
<span>be an accusation of
failings as a secretary.
Committee meetings have been
</span><br>
<span>held in a seperate
location due to the lack of
conducive environment, </span><br>
<span>mostly due to external
volume. In the section of
the constitution that you </span><br>
<span>have so kindly provided,
there is no mention of
requirements for location, </span><br>
<span>nor any mention of
informing the general
memberbase. The
notifications </span><br>
<span>given are merely a
curtesy, and if you (or
anybody else) wish to attend
a </span><br>
<span>committee meeting,
please do not hesitate to
contact myself or any other
</span><br>
<span>member of committee.</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>Regards,</span><br>
<span>Cain Nixey</span><br>
<span>UCC Secretary 2016</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>Dear committee,</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>I feel you should be
made well aware of the
requirements regarding
notice </span><br>
<span>of committee meetings
(Section 15.2 of the
constitution)</span><br>
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Secretary shall cause
all members of the
Committee to receive </span><br>
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<div><span>written or email
notice of any meeting of the
Committee at least four days
</span><br>
<span>before the date of the
meeting.</span><br>
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<span>This is done in an
automated manner by a script
that emails the committee </span><br>
<span>list four days in
advance (with reminders at
24 hours, 6 hours, and one </span><br>
<span>hour). This email
includes the words "The
meeting will be held in the
UCC </span><br>
<span>Clubroom.". However,
todays meeting was not held
in the UCC clubroom (or </span><br>
<span>near it), but at a
location not sent to the
list (the Club Collaborative
</span><br>
<span>Zone, in the main guild
building). This is contrary
to the the club's </span><br>
<span>constitution (as the
public committee list was
informed of the location </span><br>
<span>and no other
communication was made to
amend or cancel that
notification).</span><br>
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<span>The committee was
reminded at this year's AGM
to ensure that official </span><br>
<span>communication channels
were used. Recent behavior
seems to show that this </span><br>
<span>reminder has not been
heeded.</span><br>
<span></span><br>
<span>John Hodge [TPG]</span><br>
<span>UCC Wheel Member,
sitting in the clubroom.</span><br>
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