<div dir='auto'>Having done this before getting palpal here to work is a utter pain. It is really finicky.<div dir="auto">Like in terms of hardware, OS version, WiFi noises, etc.</div><div dir="auto">I've heard square is a bit better. I've not heard of the other.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In the past when people </div><div dir="auto">wanted to put money on dispense electronically,</div><div dir="auto">They did a bank transfer to our westpac account, and included their username in the transaction description. And emailed the treasurer.</div><div dir="auto">Who manually checked the bank online.</div><div dir="auto">And then added. (Some time delay if not westpac but now days that should be lower due to the new banking rules)</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Without some effort in scripting the same manual step would have to be done.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Like this is a cool idea, but setup is hellish.</div><div dir="auto">And with the fees being taken out of it is enough that most people are not going to use it, and will just go to the ATM.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If you want to do it like I'm happy to help, but sadly I don't think it is worth your time.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">[*OX]</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 13 May 2018 5:23 pm, Felix von Perger <frekk@ucc.asn.au> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>
<p>Dear committee subscribers,</p>
<p>As you may be aware, I am pushing for UCC to accept card payments
in person using some kind of card reader / EFTPOS terminal, and as
a part of many such deals we would also be able to accept payments
through the website and over the phone. This would make it more
convenient for members and door members to add dispense credit,
increases ease of processing signups/renewals (especially on O-day
and from older members) and hopefully also makes the treasurer's
life easier.<br />
</p>
<p>The committee is currently considering experimenting with
accepting card payments and will be deciding between the providers
listed below at the next meeting. The primary considerations when
selecting a payment provider include initial costs (including
purchasing equipment) and any ongoing fees / rates on
transactions.<br />
</p>
<ul><li><a href="https://www.paypal.com/au/">Paypal</a>
(using <a href="https://www.paypal.com/au/webapps/mpp/credit-card-reader">Paypal
Here</a> to accept card payments)</li><li><ul><li>1.95% flat rate on all card transactions using the card
reader</li><li>2.9% flat rate + 30c for manual entry in the app</li><li>Upfront cost of $99 to buy card reader.</li><li><ul><li>Card reader has keypad.</li></ul>
</li><li>No ongoing / monthly fees<br />
</li><li>Web integration available; accepts payments via paypal (of
course) and most credit/debit cards online.</li></ul>
</li><li><a href="https://squareup.com/au">Square</a></li><li><ul><li>1.9% flat rate on card transactions (contactless and chip +
PIN)<br />
</li><li>2.2% flat rate with manual entry</li><li>$59 upfront to buy card reader (can get it at Officeworks)<br />
</li><li><ul><li>Card reader doesn't seem to have a keypad. Unsure how this
works with payments requiring PIN code to be entered.<br />
</li></ul>
</li><li>No ongoing / monthly fees</li><li>Web integration & mobile <a href="https://docs.connect.squareup.com/payments/take-payments">API</a>
available, supports invoicing<br />
</li></ul>
</li><li><a href="http://www.mintpayments.com/">Mint
Payments</a></li><li><ul><li>1% flat rate on all transactions (card, manual, entered
online, etc)</li><li>$300 upfront to buy card reader</li><li><ul><li>Rather expensive but this was offered as an alternative to
$25/month ($300 is equivalent to one year of hire)</li><li>Card reader has a keypad.<br />
</li></ul>
</li><li>Not for profit / charity rates are available (hence low flat
rates)<br />
</li><li>No ongoing / monthly fees</li><li>Based in Australia, office in NSW.<br />
</li><li>Web integration and an <a href="https://developer.mintpayments.com/">API</a> are
available, supports over-the-phone payments & invoicing<br />
</li></ul>
</li></ul>
<p>Unfortunately, the limitation of all of the above options is that
they all require an Android / iOS device with the app installed to
connect to the card reader device.</p>
<p>Technically, the club could either purchase a cheap Android
device spefically for the purpose of taking payments or set up a
Raspberry Pi with android, permanently installed somewhere
convenient in the clubroom. The implementation specific details
are unclear at the moment but once a decision has been made it
will be worked out.<br />
</p>
<p>Regardless of what is decided upon, some kind of Android based
solution will be implemented and configured appropriately so that
door members can take payments using the app / card reader for
dispense topups. APIs for each provider may allow custom apps to
interface with the reader (not something I've looked into in
depth), which could lead into a number of different projects.</p>
<p>If you have any feedback regarding the above, please let us know
by replying to this email.<br />
</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Felix von Perger<br />
UCC Secretary 2018<br />
</p>
</div>
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