<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi William,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">If you can’t see what is going on, you’re not really looking.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There is a lot more I can say in response to your comments, but in the interests of not inflaming this discussion further, I’m going to remain silent.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"The crunch time for tolerance in this country will be when gays and lesbians can openly admit they are Conservatives" - Philip Levy </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For most of my life I’ve been an Orthodox Jewish trans lesbian, so I’m in a very good position to comment. If being conservative means believing in individual responsibility and self reliance, then your quote is entirely without basis.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In the Trump era, it means something else, though, doesn’t it?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What are you not saying?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 8:37 PM Susie Johnston <<a href="mailto:susie@ucc.asn.au" class="">susie@ucc.asn.au</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br class="">
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> On 26 Mar 2019, at 4:26 pm, Grace Rosario <<a href="mailto:20483992@student.uwa.edu.au" target="_blank" class="">20483992@student.uwa.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br class="">
> Since you seem to enjoy using anecdotes, I can give you an anecdote about how unpleasent UniSFA can be if you would like:<br class="">
> The second last time that I went into UniSFA (late 2018/early 2019), it was to tell someone to shut up because I could hear them yelling "oh fuck" at the top of their lungs, multiple times in the span of a few minutes, and I could hear them from the other side of the hall.<br class="">
> Most unisfans are lovely people, and most of the time their club is nice, but I uncomfortable with the actions of an individual in that club once.<br class="">
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Unisfa has been much worse than UCC for me. From memory, I’ve only had one UCC member grope me while they were drunk at parties; whilst I’ve had numerous Unisfans grope me while sober in the middle of the club room...<br class="">
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Though that was due to specific ick individuals rather than the club itself.<br class="">
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Thinking back on my unisfa days, I used to tell a story about how lovely a guy was because when I was completely smashed he drove me home and helped me to my door and didn’t try anything. That *should* have been the norm. Not the exception. <br class="">
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