<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>Hi Tim, et al<br></div><div><br></div><div>Just stepping through the regulations, etc that Maja has quoted. All of these are downloadable from <a href="http://www.legislation.wa.gov.au">www.legislation.wa.gov.au</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Occupational Safety and Health Regulations 1996</b><b><br></b></div><div><br></div><div>3.59. Electrical installation etc., duties of employer etc. as to
<br></div><div><br></div><div>A person who, at a workplace, is an employer, the main
contractor, a self-employed person or a person having control of
the workplace must ensure that —
(a) all <i>electrical installations</i> at the workplace are designed,
constructed, installed, protected, maintained and tested
so as to minimise the risk of electrical shock or fire; and
(b) each connection on a flexible cord that is installed or
renewed at the workplace after 1 October 1996 is of
either the moulded one part non-rewireable or
transparent type.
Penalty: the regulation 1.16 penalty.
[Regulation 3.59 amended: Gazette 14 Dec 2004 p. 6018.]<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The active clause here is a) and the key phrase is "all <i>electrical installations</i>"<br></div><div><br></div><div>Part 1 — Preliminary and interpretation
Division 1 — Preliminary and definitions
1.3. Terms used ... of the regulations provides that definition:<br></div><div><br></div><div><b>electrical installation</b> has the meaning given in the Electricity
(Licensing) Regulations 1991 regulation 3(1);<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Electricity (Licensing) Regulations 1991</b><b><br></b></div><div><br></div><div>Part 1 —
3. Terms used
(1) In these regulations, unless the contrary intention appears — ....<br></div><div><br></div><div><b>electrical installatio</b>n means —
(a) an installation (as defined in the Electricity Act 1945
section 5(1)); or
(b) the network of an exempt operator, other than an exempt
operator that is a major network operator; or
Electricity (Licensing) Regulations 1991
Preliminary Part 1
r. 3
As at 09 Jan 2019 Version 07-l0-01 page 3
Published on <a href="http://www.legislation.wa.gov.au">www.legislation.wa.gov.au</a> (c) the network of a person who is a network operator under
the Electricity (Network Safety) Regulations 2015
regulation 4(1)(h);<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>a) being the relevant clause again ...<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Electricity Act 1945
Part I Preliminary
s. 5</b><b><br></b></div><div><br></div><div><b>installation </b>includes all wiring, wiring enclosures, switch gear,
control and protective gear, appliances, and other components
permanently connected to or associated with the wiring, on
premises to which electricity is or is intended to be supplied
through distribution works, and where electricity is supplied
from a private generating plant includes that plant;<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>The key part here being "permanently connected to or associated with the wiring"<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm not necessarily sure they are taking a correct interpretation of the legislation and regulations.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Mark</div><div>--</div><div id="sig26513633"><div>
<br></div><div class="signature">Mark Tearle <<a href="mailto:mtearle@ucc.asn.au">mtearle@ucc.asn.au</a>></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, 23 May 2019, at 6:31 AM, Timothy Chapman wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt"><div dir="auto"><div>Hi interested parties,<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This reply of mine missed the committee@ cc, so here's it forwarded.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Timothy.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div class="qt-gmail_attr" dir="ltr"><div>---------- Forwarded message ---------<br></div><div>From: <b>Timothy Chapman</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:22483878@student.uwa.edu.au">22483878@student.uwa.edu.au</a>></span><br></div><div>Date: Thu, 23 May 2019, 12:18 pm<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [committee] UCC 'test-and-tag'<br></div><div>To: SOC <<a href="mailto:soc@guild.uwa.edu.au">soc@guild.uwa.edu.au</a>><br></div><div>Cc: Grace Rosario <<a href="mailto:20483992@student.uwa.edu.au">20483992@student.uwa.edu.au</a>>, Hinako Shiraishi 19 <<a href="mailto:soc-president@guild.uwa.edu.au">soc-president@guild.uwa.edu.au</a>><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Maja,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your reply. It's very helpful to actually see the regulations you'd like us to comply with. A quick point of clarification that I feel must be made:<br></div><div>In §3.59 I see the requirement for all electrical equipment to be "tested", however I fail to see why that must specifically refer to 'test-and-tag'.<br></div><div><br></div><div>If you could elucidate this point it would be much appreciated,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Timothy.<br></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote"><div class="qt-gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 11:45, SOC <<a rel="noreferrer" href="mailto:soc@guild.uwa.edu.au">soc@guild.uwa.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;" class="qt-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;" id="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832divtagdefaultwrapper"><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">Hey UCC,<br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"></p><div>Thank you for taking such a keen interest in our regulations!<br></div><div> <br></div><p></p><p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="color:rgb(33, 33, 33)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif, serif, EmojiFont" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="size">Please see attached WA OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH REGULATIONS – REGULATION 3.59 which states that “all electrical installations at the workplace are designed, constructed, installed, protected, maintained
and </span></span><b><span style="color:rgb(255, 0, 0)" class="colour"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="size">tested</span></span></b><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="size"><span style="color:rgb(255, 0, 0)" class="colour"> </span>so as to minimize the risk of electrical shock or fire”; and REGULATION 1.16
which outlines the penalties for this.</span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="color:rgb(33, 33, 33)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif, serif, EmojiFont" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="size"> </span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="color:rgb(33, 33, 33)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif, serif, EmojiFont" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="size">I believe WA Occupational Safety and Health Regulations would supersede UWA Electrical Safety Guidelines.</span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="color:rgb(33, 33, 33)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif, serif, EmojiFont" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="size"> </span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="color:rgb(33, 33, 33)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif, serif, EmojiFont" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="size">It is worth noting that in general, the tags last up to 5 years depending on the type of equipment, so this cost would not annual. Hope this was of help!</span></span></span></span></span><br></p><p style="margin-right: 0px; margin-left: 0px;"><span style="color:rgb(33, 33, 33)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif, serif, EmojiFont" class="font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="size"></span></span></span><br></p><p><br></p><div id="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832Signature"><div style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, Helvetica, EmojiFont, "Apple Color Emoji", "Segoe UI Emoji", NotoColorEmoji, "Segoe UI Symbol", "Android Emoji", EmojiSymbols;" dir="ltr" id="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832divtagdefaultwrapper"><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">Warmest Regards, <br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><b></b><span style="color:rgb(0, 111, 201)" class="colour"><b><span style="color:rgb(0, 111, 201)" class="colour">Maja Maric </span></b></span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour">SOC Communications Committee</span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour">UWA Student Guild</span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour"></span><br></p><p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour"><img src="cid:16ae2e1dc9239bcc15c2" class="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832EmojiInsert"></span><br></p></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><hr style="display:inline-block;width:98%;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832divRplyFwdMsg"><div><span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif" class="font"><span style="color:#000000" class="colour"><b>From:</b> Grace Rosario <<a rel="noreferrer" href="mailto:20483992@student.uwa.edu.au">20483992@student.uwa.edu.au</a>><br> <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 23, 2019 9:33 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Timothy Chapman<br> <b>Cc:</b> Hinako Shiraishi 19; SOC; committee<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [committee] UCC 'test-and-tag'</span></span> </div><div> <br></div></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello SOC,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure if this (picture attached) really constitutes a response to our email, since it didn't get sent to the committee, just to one member, and used a personal Facebook account to communicate. So I'm pretty sure, at least, that this is not an official
response.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure that we were clear enough in our last email, but could somebody please link us to the safety standards of the guild, which are apparently separate from the UWA regulations. I have looked on the guild website and this information is not available
to me anywhere that I can see.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The UCC committee would like to view the policy that they are being asked to comply with.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards,<br></div><div>Grace Rosario<br></div><div>UCC Secretary<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><img src="cid:16ae2e1dc92cb971f161" height="558" width="314" alt="image.png"><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832x_gmail_quote"><div class="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832x_gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, 22 May 2019 at 23:47, Timothy Chapman <<a rel="noreferrer" class="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832OWAAutoLink" id="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832LPlnk715010" href="mailto:22483878@student.uwa.edu.au">22483878@student.uwa.edu.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;" class="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832x_gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832x_gmail-m_4301306932835503225gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Dear SOC,<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Speaking on behalf of the UCC committee, we have recently received your request to 'test-and-tag' all of our plugs. We would appreciate it if you could please outline why this is <i>necessary</i>.<br></div><div> UCC has (as you would expect) a very large number of electrical devices, and so, such a requirement is exceptionally onerous for the club — to the tune of several hundred dollars per year.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Examining the <a rel="noreferrer" class="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832OWAAutoLink" id="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832LPlnk972762" href="http://www.safety.uwa.edu.au/topics/electrical-safety/testing-tagging-guidelines">UWA Electrical Safety Guidelines</a>, we were able to identity the section of
the requirements this seems to be a result of.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <i>"UWA uses a risk management approach to determine where specific testing of electrical equipment is necessary. This is achieved by defining workplaces as hostile or non-hostile electrical environments and then specifying the required frequency of either
Visual Inspections or Testing and Tagging"</i><br></div><div> <br></div><div> While it seems good for the clubs on UWA to follow the UWA safety rules, we note that the regulations split environments into two categories: Hostile and Non-hostile.<br></div><div> The requirement of "Testing and Tagging" <b>exclusively</b> refers to "hostile environments". According to those regulations a <b>non-</b>hostile environment is defined as follows:<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <i>"This is a workplace that is dry, clean, well organised and free of operating conditions that may result in damage to electrical equipment or the flexible supply cord."</i><br></div><div> <br></div><div> We are strongly of the impression that UCC firmly fits into the category of <b>non-hostile</b>, and as such this requirement seems to be unnecessary.<br></div><div> >>From your request, we can only conclude that you have classified UCC as a hostile environment. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Would it be possible to get a thorough and well justified explanation for why UCC has been singled out and identified? <i>(see email from Taco Shiraishi on May 15)</i> Since if we were to go ahead with the tagging, UCC appears to be expected to pay a significant
sum out of pocket for superfluous electrical testing.<br></div><div> <br></div><div><br></div><div>Looking forward to your reply,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Timothy Chapman<br></div><div><span style="font-size:10px" class="size">UCC Ordinary Committee Member</span><br></div></div></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div> List Archives: <a class="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832OWAAutoLink" id="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail-m_3669607386627887832LPlnk141058" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" href="http://lists.ucc.asn.au/pipermail/committee"> http://lists.ucc.asn.au/pipermail/committee</a><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div class="qt-m_-6766424693007396370gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Yours sincerely,<br></div></div><div>Timothy Chapman.<br></div></div></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>List Archives: http://lists.ucc.asn.au/pipermail/committee<br></div><div><br></div><div><b>Attachments:</b><br></div><ul><li>image.png<br></li><li>Outlook-c4hyp4y4.png<br></li></ul></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>