From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Feb 2 16:59:52 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:01 2004 Subject: [tech] [thallam@ee.uwa.edu.au: Redundant Equipment] Message-ID: <20000202165951.J3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> I just called Stuart - he's happy for us to take these. I believe the "Sun Laser Printers" require a card to drive them, but they're not in this bunch. We should keep on the lookout. We should give him a call before we go over, tomorrow. Who can be about? Lunchtime good for people? There may not be an immediate use for some of these, but we should test and store them. Nick. ----- Forwarded message from Tom Hallam ----- Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 16:47:46 +0800 From: Tom Hallam X-Accept-Language: en Subject: Redundant Equipment To: undisclosed-recipients:; We have the following redundant equipment which may or may not work. Anybody who is interested in it should contact: Stuart Mather ph (08) 9380 3899 stuart@ee.uwa.edu.au Any offers to take it away considered. 3 * Monochrome Sun Screens 3 * Colour Sun Screens 3 * Sun Laser Printers 3 * 24" (wide) Dot matrix printer All the equipment is old and some does not work. If you are interested in it then please contact Stuart by the 11th Feb. 2000. Thanks Tom -- ***************************************************************** Tom Hallam ph: (08) 9380 1634 Information Systems Manager. fax: (08) 9380 1065 Dept. Electrical and Electronic Engineering. mobile: 0410 453 630 University of Western Australia rm: G72 http://www.ee.uwa.edu.au/~thallam mailto:thallam@ee.uwa.edu.au ***************************************************************** ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 4 15:29:10 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:02 2004 Subject: [tech] Ethernet cards Message-ID: <20000204152910.Y3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> We've got three nice new Netgear FA-310TX PCI 10/100 tulip-based ethernet cards. They're sitting in the machine room, along with an invoice (we shouldn't need to do anything about that - the Guild is sending the cheque). Cost was $50 tax ex each, from Simline Solutions - simline.com.au. James Pearce was very good - took the order by email, I faxed the tax ex order, and it was delivered free the next day. (before the Guild cheque would have arrived) At the same time, I bought a Netgear for myself and a Pioneer SCSI DVD-ROM. I believe the plan is for two to go into uccrouter and one into mermaid. There's a Linux driver in /services/tmp/fa31v402.tgz - a modified copy of tulip.c - but let's see if a recent mainstream tulip driver works. (we could need a new kernel on uccrouter) Any plans for this weekend on mermaid or scarlet? mermaid needs a reinstall, preferably onto Wazza's 4.3GB IDE HDD. scarlet might need a downgrade, but at the end of the day we just want it to be able to talk 100BaseT and server NFS and NIS. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 4 17:51:48 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:02 2004 Subject: [tech] Ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <20000204152910.Y3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from nick@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 03:29:10PM +0800 References: <20000204152910.Y3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000204175147.A28368@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 04, Nick Bannon scrawled : > I believe the plan is for two to go into uccrouter and one into mermaid. > There's a Linux driver in /services/tmp/fa31v402.tgz - a modified copy > of tulip.c - but let's see if a recent mainstream tulip driver works. (we > could need a new kernel on uccrouter) The tulip.c from 2.2.13/14 definitely works fine. > Any plans for this weekend on mermaid or scarlet? mermaid needs a > reinstall, preferably onto Wazza's 4.3GB IDE HDD. scarlet might need a > downgrade, but at the end of the day we just want it to be able to talk > 100BaseT and server NFS and NIS. I have to work Saturday now, so I can be in on Sunday to help or whatever. -- Grahame Bowland - UCC Sysadmin, Ordinary Committee Member Email: gbowland(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Web: http://users.wantree.com.au/~bowest/gmb.html Mobile: 0419 205 123 From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 4 17:56:51 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:02 2004 Subject: [tech] Ethernet cards In-Reply-To: <20000204175147.A28368@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Grahame Bowland on Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 05:51:48PM +0800 References: <20000204152910.Y3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000204175147.A28368@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000204175650.C3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Feb 04, 2000 at 05:51:48PM +0800, Grahame Bowland wrote: > The tulip.c from 2.2.13/14 definitely works fine. Well, we could try that with a LRP boot floppy. > > Any plans for this weekend on mermaid or scarlet? mermaid needs a > > reinstall, preferably onto Wazza's 4.3GB IDE HDD. scarlet might need a > > downgrade, but at the end of the day we just want it to be able to talk > > 100BaseT and server NFS and NIS. > > I have to work Saturday now, so I can be in on Sunday to help or whatever. Wazza tells me the HDD will probably be available next week, but we do have Irix media in the clubroom if people want to give scarlet a shot. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Feb 6 11:56:19 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:03 2004 Subject: [tech] NIS hiccup Message-ID: <20000206115617.G3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> mermaid was complaining of YP errors after entering a username in a telnet login (other logins didn't work either). I telnet-ed to starfish, ssh-ed to mooneye and "/etc/init.d/nis restart"-ed. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Feb 6 14:02:33 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:03 2004 Subject: [tech] NIS hiccup In-Reply-To: <20000206115617.G3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from nick@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 11:56:19AM +0800 References: <20000206115617.G3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000206140233.A5949@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 06, Nick Bannon scrawled : > mermaid was complaining of YP errors after entering a username in a > telnet login (other logins didn't work either). > > I telnet-ed to starfish, ssh-ed to mooneye and "/etc/init.d/nis restart"-ed. Something happened to mooneye, Apache and sendmail had died. They're back up and running, but I'll try and find out how/why it happened. Mussel should have taken over when mooneye's YP stuff went down. Anyway, we should move to something doing better NIS soon. -- Grahame Bowland - UCC sysadmin, Ordinary Committee Member Email: gbowland(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ Mobile: 0419 205 123 From root at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 7 01:30:17 2000 From: root at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (The Operator) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:03 2004 Subject: [tech] User Disk Space Usage Message-ID: <200002061730.BAA22647@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> mp3pp is using 290278K worth of space in /services/mp3pp. unisfa is using 13706K worth of space in /home/other/unisfa. From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Feb 8 11:03:50 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:03 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] HELP! In-Reply-To: <20000208100059.A27717@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Andrew Bailey on Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:00:59AM +0800 References: <20000208100059.A27717@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000208110349.S3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Tue, Feb 08, 2000 at 10:00:59AM +0800, Andrew Bailey wrote: [...] > another place ... a dark place .. no ... stop that ). Anyway you should get > all your mail back when mussel comes back on line. Which I am assuming will > happen at some point in the future. mussel's down? So it is. Anyone wanna look into it? Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From james at rcpt.to Tue Feb 8 11:12:18 2000 From: james at rcpt.to (James Bromberger) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:03 2004 Subject: [tech] [arogozin@home.com: RE: set of 10 Wavelan PCMCIA cards IEEE802.11] Message-ID: <20000208111218.A28030@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> This is on ebay. Auction closes tonight. Anyone intersted in Wavelan. This guy is selling 10 x 2Mbit old cards. With the right antenna (17db gain, 24 db gain) you can do 3/10 or so kilometers (slashdot talk the other day spoke of 17 kms plus to a mountain top!). FYI, US$750 ~ A$1,185. Hence around A$118 + say a 200 dollar direction antenna and a PCMCIA -> PCI or PCMCIA -> ISA card and you could have a nice link -- if it works. I don't know, I haven't tried it. I am interested in two. Anyone else intersted? ----- Forwarded message from Alex Rogozin ----- Delivered-To: james@rcpt.to X-Sent: 7 Feb 2000 14:25:19 GMT From: "Alex Rogozin" To: "'James Bromberger'" Subject: RE: set of 10 Wavelan PCMCIA cards IEEE802.11 Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 09:24:18 -0500 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20000206142707.A22064@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Generally i do not sell outside of US. If you want to bid on this item, i must receive the payment in advance ( no COD ), shipping can be done only by UPS or FedEx ( no USPS ) or you can arrange pickup from my location by carrier of your choice. Regards Alex -----Original Message----- From: James Bromberger [mailto:james@rcpt.to] Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 1:27 AM To: arogozin@home.com Subject: set of 10 Wavelan PCMCIA cards IEEE802.11 Hello. I was wondering why your Ebay auction of 10 wavelan cards says: "Will ship to United States only" Does this mean I cannot bid on the item since I am not in the USA? Many thanks. -- James Bromberger, UWA Campus Wide Information Systems Officer (UWA Webmaster) Work Ph: +61-8-9380-7306 Work Fax: +61-8-9380-1162 Remainder moved to http://www.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/~james/james/sig.html james@bromberger.com ----- End forwarded message ----- -- James Bromberger, UWA Campus Wide Information Systems Officer (UWA Webmaster) Work Ph: +61-8-9380-7306 Work Fax: +61-8-9380-1162 Remainder moved to http://www.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/~james/james/sig.html james@bromberger.com From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Feb 13 10:32:21 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:04 2004 Subject: [tech] NIS hiccup In-Reply-To: <20000206115617.G3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Nick Bannon on Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 11:56:19AM +0800 References: <20000206115617.G3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000213103218.M7179@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 11:56:19AM +0800, Nick Bannon wrote: > mermaid was complaining of YP errors after entering a username in a > telnet login (other logins didn't work either). > > I telnet-ed to starfish, ssh-ed to mooneye and "/etc/init.d/nis restart"-ed. [...] Bouncy bouncy, again. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From dunc at rcpt.to Sun Feb 13 12:16:35 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:04 2004 Subject: [tech] NIS hiccup In-Reply-To: <20000213103218.M7179@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from nick@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 10:32:21AM +0800 References: <20000206115617.G3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000213103218.M7179@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000213121635.D3706@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Nick Bannon wrote on Sun February 13, at 10:32 +0800: > On Sun, Feb 06, 2000 at 11:56:19AM +0800, Nick Bannon wrote: > > mermaid was complaining of YP errors after entering a username in a > > telnet login (other logins didn't work either). > > > > I telnet-ed to starfish, ssh-ed to mooneye and "/etc/init.d/nis > > restart"-ed. > [...] > > Bouncy bouncy, again. This is fscking ridiculous, so I've thefted /usr/local/sbin/restart.pl from UCS, configurated it for UCC and crontabbed it to run every 20 minutes. As unusual as it is for me to do something sensible for UCC, I've been consulting for the last 90 minutes and I feel dirty. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Feb 13 13:14:38 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:04 2004 Subject: [tech] NIS hiccup In-Reply-To: <20000213121635.D3706@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Duncan Sargeant on Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 12:16:35PM +0800 References: <20000206115617.G3855@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000213103218.M7179@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000213121635.D3706@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000213131437.A16093@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Sun, Feb 13, 2000 at 12:16:35PM +0800, Duncan Sargeant wrote: > This is fscking ridiculous, so I've thefted /usr/local/sbin/restart.pl > from UCS, configurated it for UCC and crontabbed it to run every 20 > minutes. I'm not sure it'll help, though - I don't think ypserv actually dies, it just stops responding usefully. (or does it?) Still looks like a handy script, though. I've added apache and the doorlogger to it. BIND would be good too, we can test and try that soon. > As unusual as it is for me to do something sensible for UCC, I've been > consulting for the last 90 minutes and I feel dirty. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From root at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 14 01:30:29 2000 From: root at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (The Operator) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:04 2004 Subject: [tech] User Disk Space Usage Message-ID: <200002131730.BAA17449@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> mp3pp is using 290278K worth of space in /services/mp3pp. unisfa is using 13706K worth of space in /home/other/unisfa. From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 14 10:15:18 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:04 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [hardware] (fwd) Alpha Raid Contrlr / $49 In-Reply-To: <200002140131.JAA19355@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au_no.spam.please_ on Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 09:31:31AM +0800 References: <200002140131.JAA19355@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000214101517.A17168@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Feb 14, 2000 at 09:31:31AM +0800, mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au_no.spam.please_ wrote: [...] > We could also get a PCI version of this card, but the EISA one is dirt cheap > & will work in the AS1000. I'll feed it more memory if we get it. At $49 US, it sounds worthwhile, even if shipping adds more. I'll chip in $25 towards it. Speaking of shipping - we should probably ask one of our US friends to gather the stuff (eg any Storageworks units or RAM) before overseas shipping to us. Might not be worth it for a card like this, but if it's not going to come in under the tax free limit anyway... Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 14 15:45:25 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:04 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [hwc] (fwd) (72 Pin) 32 Mb True Parity Ram...$80 ea In-Reply-To: <20000123170645.K26982@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Nick Bannon on Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 05:06:46PM +0800 References: <200001230702.PAA01749@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000123160105.A572@yakk.net.au> <20000123170645.K26982@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000214154524.F4758@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 05:06:46PM +0800, Nick Bannon wrote: > On Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 04:01:05PM +0800, Ian McKellar wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 23, 2000 at 03:02:06PM +0800, mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au_no.spam.please_ wrote: > [8x32MB parity SIMMs] > > We're after some like this - is this a good price? > > It's as cheap as the secondhand US prices, so that's good enough for me. > > I've bought the lot. After some chasing, it doesn't look like it's happening. It's been three weeks, and the guy reckons it's lost in the post... and refuses to tell me the tracking number. Hooray for COD. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Feb 15 19:30:53 2000 From: ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Ben Rampling) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:05 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] Minutes In-Reply-To: <200002151119.TAA27873@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Ian McKellar at "Feb 15, 0 07:19:06 pm" Message-ID: <200002151130.TAA24824@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > MTL's webmail: > set up imapd running on mako. virtual imapd. it mostly works. > needs fixing up. > run it for a week. > Gonna create real account though. I don't recommend creating user accounts on Mako. People have, in the past, failed to take due care in ensuring security restrictions on these accounts. Regards, Ben Rampling From yakk at yakk.net.au Tue Feb 15 21:12:22 2000 From: yakk at yakk.net.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:05 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] Minutes In-Reply-To: <200002151130.TAA24824@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <200002151119.TAA27873@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002151130.TAA24824@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000215211221.A30859@yakk.net.au> On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 07:30:53PM +0800, Ben Rampling wrote: > > > MTL's webmail: > > set up imapd running on mako. virtual imapd. it mostly works. > > needs fixing up. > > run it for a week. > > Gonna create real account though. > > I don't recommend creating user accounts on Mako. People have, in the past, > failed to take due care in ensuring security restrictions on these accounts. No, its all virtual. Ian -- Ian McKellar | Email: yakk(a)yakk.net | Web: http://www.yakk.net/ Fax: +61 (8) 9265 0821 / +0 (775) 205 0307 | Home: +61 (8) 9389 9152 If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Feb 16 01:59:59 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:05 2004 Subject: [tech] [[wheel] AS1000a 5/300] Message-ID: <20000216015959.I9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bingle Apologies to those who got this more than once but I was told this should have gone to tech initially. ----- Forwarded message from Simon Fryer ----- It is alive and well in the machine room. It thinks it's name is joy (part of the fryers naming scheme) because it was installed on the home network. Will change the name when I finally set up the network. What needs to happen now is that the licence manager needs to be persuaded that yes, we have paid for our licence and we have a very very large number of users. Until this point there is only one user allowed on the machine at a time. The only account at the moment is root with the UCC root password. The machine is not on the network yet but hopefully will be soon. ----- End forwarded message ----- See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Feb 16 02:02:41 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:05 2004 Subject: [tech] [[wheel] Install that patch] Message-ID: <20000216020241.J9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Another one... ----- Forwarded message from Simon Fryer ----- bingle Ok, another couple of points about the alpha, it really doesn't like having anything hanging off it's external scsi port. I had to use a next to get the tar ball of patches off the tape. Mustang, your DAT drive is in the machine room next to the console of the alpha. Anyway, after getting the patches off the tape at about 1 this morning I had a lot of fun reading and then using dupatch. Oh why oh why does the system check the validity of the patches about 6 times during the install, 3 or so during the preinstallation and the 3 or so times again during the actual patch install prorcess. Lots of fun. Anyway, finished at 4:30 this morning. *sigh* See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh ----- End forwarded message ----- From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Feb 16 02:03:36 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:05 2004 Subject: [tech] [[wheel] Alpha - file systems] Message-ID: <20000216020336.K9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> And the last ----- Forwarded message from Simon Fryer ----- Bing Last message for a short while.... Ok, /, /var and swap1 is on the 1GB drive. swap2 and / are on the 2GB drive. / is 512MB, swap1 and swap2 are 130MB each. /var is the remainder of the 1GB disk and /usr is the remainder of the 2Gb disk. Lots of fun. Also, all file systems are AdvFS on advice of [MTL]. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh ----- End forwarded message ----- From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Feb 16 02:07:42 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:05 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Install that patch In-Reply-To: <20000215211943.A14992@wyvern.com.au>; from Warrick Mitchell on Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 09:19:43PM +0800 References: <20000215185526.G9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000215211943.A14992@wyvern.com.au> Message-ID: <20000216020742.L9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bingle > A while ago Warrick Mitchell tapped: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 06:55:26PM +0800, Simon Fryer wrote: > You will probably find, if you take the "TERM" jumper of the Cdrom you can hang other devices of the chain (the external one), otherwise it bitches if the cdrom is not "TERM" set and there is no terminator on the external interface. That would be the problem then. I thought it may be to do with some of the weirdness of 3 headed scsi cards. I didn't feel the need to take the case off the alpha when there was a perfectly good next at home that just needed an excuse to be connected. :-) See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From yakk at yakk.net.au Wed Feb 16 08:27:31 2000 From: yakk at yakk.net.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:06 2004 Subject: [tech] [[wheel] Alpha - file systems] In-Reply-To: <20000216020336.K9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20000216020336.K9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000216082731.B30969@yakk.net.au> On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 02:03:36AM +0800, Simon Fryer wrote: > And the last > > ----- Forwarded message from Simon Fryer ----- > > Bing > > Last message for a short while.... > > Ok, /, /var and swap1 is on the 1GB drive. > swap2 and / are on the 2GB drive. > > / is 512MB, swap1 and swap2 are 130MB each. /var is the remainder > of the 1GB disk and /usr is the remainder of the 2Gb disk. Lots of > fun. > > Also, all file systems are AdvFS on advice of [MTL]. Its the Adventure Filesystem! IAn -- Ian McKellar | Email: yakk(a)yakk.net | Web: http://www.yakk.net/ Fax: +61 (8) 9265 0821 / +0 (775) 205 0307 | Home: +61 (8) 9389 9152 If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. From barry at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Feb 17 03:12:18 2000 From: barry at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Barry P.) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:06 2004 Subject: [tech] they're coming ... Message-ID: <200002161912.DAA05908@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> verging on .... From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Feb 17 09:56:15 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:06 2004 Subject: [tech] they're coming ... In-Reply-To: <200002161912.DAA05908@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from "Barry P." at "Feb 17, 0 03:12:18 am" Message-ID: <200002170156.JAA30451@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > verging on .... > JP - could you tell us what this is all about, or is it someone merely being a twit..? -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au Thu Feb 17 10:40:49 2000 From: mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Mark Tearle) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:06 2004 Subject: [tech] they're coming ... In-Reply-To: <200002170156.JAA30451@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, David Manchester wrote: > Subject: Re: [tech] they're coming ... > > > verging on .... > > > JP - could you tell us what this is all about, or is it someone > merely being a twit..? > That'd be telling :) Let's just say the Verge Shopping Network was very fortuitous to UCC last night, Nick will tell us more if he noticed them in his living room this morning (but it would be hard to tell - with all the rest of the junk there (this is an official hint from Helen (tm)) Yours Mark -- Mark Tearle - mtearle@tartarus.uwa.edu.au "If a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man." - A Clockwork Orange From ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 12:29:26 2000 From: ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Ben Rampling) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:06 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <20000218122048.B30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Nick Bannon at "Feb 18, 0 12:20:49 pm" Message-ID: <200002180429.MAA01233@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > Who's coming to pizza tonight? Good opportunity to get started on morwong > install/mermaid reinstall/kraken NIS/etc. > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 11:48:03AM +0800, david.manchester@alphawest.com.au wrote: > > Why are our linux boxes such pieces of shit? > > Why? > > mermaid/mussel hardware seems pretty good now. So what, Linux is just crap, or something? Regards, Ben Rampling From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 12:32:30 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:06 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <200002180429.MAA01233@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Ben Rampling on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:29:26PM +0800 References: <20000218122048.B30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002180429.MAA01233@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000218123229.D30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:29:26PM +0800, Ben Rampling wrote: > So what, Linux is just crap, or something? Yeah, guess it must be. Ah well, time to toggle in a new system on the front panel switches. (hmmm, guess we'll need to rig up a front panel first) Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 12:37:57 2000 From: ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Ben Rampling) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:07 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <20000218123229.D30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Nick Bannon at "Feb 18, 0 12:32:30 pm" Message-ID: <200002180437.MAA01276@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > > So what, Linux is just crap, or something? > > Yeah, guess it must be. I'm glad you agree, and you're not blaming something like hardware or power now. ;) Shall we find an alternative and start moving to it? Regards, Ben Rampling From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 12:43:49 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:07 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <200002180437.MAA01276@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Ben Rampling on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:37:57PM +0800 References: <20000218123229.D30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002180437.MAA01276@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000218124348.H9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Ben Rampling tapped: > > > So what, Linux is just crap, or something? > > > > Yeah, guess it must be. > > I'm glad you agree, and you're not blaming something like hardware or power > now. ;) > > Shall we find an alternative and start moving to it? Yes.... Also, PC archetecture is also crap, it is good to see we are moving away from that as well. Now, to find some time to do some more work on the alpha server. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From yakk at yakk.net.au Fri Feb 18 12:46:01 2000 From: yakk at yakk.net.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:07 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <200002180437.MAA01276@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20000218123229.D30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002180437.MAA01276@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000218124601.C10220@yakk.net.au> On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:37:57PM +0800, Ben Rampling wrote: > > > > So what, Linux is just crap, or something? > > > > Yeah, guess it must be. > > I'm glad you agree, and you're not blaming something like hardware or power > now. ;) > > Shall we find an alternative and start moving to it? > Thats why we bought the alpha. Ian -- Ian McKellar | Email: yakk(a)yakk.net | Web: http://www.yakk.net/ Fax: +61 (8) 9265 0821 / +0 (775) 205 0307 | Home: +61 (8) 9389 9152 If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 12:53:23 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:07 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <200002180440.MAA12134@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from David Manchester on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:40:19PM +0800 References: <20000218122048.B30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002180440.MAA12134@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000218125322.E30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:40:19PM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > Nick Bannon wrote: > > Who's coming to pizza tonight? Good opportunity to get started on morwong > > install/mermaid reinstall/kraken NIS/etc. > > I'm in. Good stuff. > > mermaid/mussel hardware seems pretty good now. > > Mostly. > > > mermaid needs a reinstall on the disc you mentioned. > > Indeed - if it can be located. Hope so. Where was it put and what brand was it? Can we assume it's hiding out in the machine room somewhere? > > > Mermaid's / filesystem filled and crapped out my mailbox. > > > Can't read it on mussel because its corrupted. > > The joy of mbox is that it's fixable. ::-) > > OK - any idea where the 350 messages it lopped off at the start got to? Ah, that's a bugger. If you're quick you can search mola's raw disk. [...] > Erm, shall we apply the freeware CD before we start compiling furiously? > BTW - does ti feel "snappy-ish" for compiles? Delightfully snappy. If the freeware CD saves any time, go for it, but I'm not sure it will at this rate. OpenSSL/OpenSSH are the sort of things you should be able to compile from source, anyway... Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 12:57:35 2000 From: ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Ben Rampling) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:07 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <20000218124601.C10220@yakk.net.au> from Ian McKellar at "Feb 18, 0 12:46:01 pm" Message-ID: <200002180457.MAA01351@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > > Shall we find an alternative and start moving to it? > > > Thats why we bought the alpha. Then why is the club so trigger happy with RedHat CD's? As an example, I've spent a fair bit of time getting the router working reliably after no one else could, or could be bothered. Then the moment we buy a new card for it, we've got the RedHat club discussing which Linux driver to use... Regards, Ben Rampling From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 13:04:52 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:07 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <200002180437.MAA01276@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Ben Rampling on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:37:57PM +0800 References: <20000218123229.D30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002180437.MAA01276@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000218130451.G30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:37:57PM +0800, Ben Rampling wrote: > I'm glad you agree, Of course. > and you're not blaming something like hardware or power > now. ;) Yeah, crappy PC equipment has given up some real headaches with that - mermaid alone has had at least one crap power supply as well as any CPU or CPU-induced problems. > Shall we find an alternative and start moving to it? Where have you been? There's lots happening on the alternative system front. The more the merrier. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From dayta at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 13:04:17 2000 From: dayta at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Leighton Haynes) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:08 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <200002180457.MAA01351@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from ben@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:57:35PM +0800 References: <20000218124601.C10220@yakk.net.au> <200002180457.MAA01351@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000218130417.A11816@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:57:35PM +0800, Ben Rampling wrote: > > > > Shall we find an alternative and start moving to it? > > > > > Thats why we bought the alpha. > > Then why is the club so trigger happy with RedHat CD's? As an example, I've > spent a fair bit of time getting the router working reliably after no one > else could, or could be bothered. Then the moment we buy a new card for it, > we've got the RedHat club discussing which Linux driver to use... You've got to understand, we don't love linux or anything...... we just hate BSD :) How about for variety, we get 4 boxes, install them with Debian, Redhat, Suse, and Caldera Openlinux. Then we can have experience with all different sorts of unix!! On a more serious note, the club in general really does tend to be a bit trigger happy with destroying other peoples work. Not that I have a solution you understand. Leighton... -- 4th Year BE(IT) Hons. student. UCC Sysadmin. From ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 13:18:55 2000 From: ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Ben Rampling) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:08 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <20000218130451.G30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Nick Bannon at "Feb 18, 0 01:04:52 pm" Message-ID: <200002180518.NAA01459@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > Where have you been? There's lots happening on the alternative system > front. The more the merrier. No there isn't. Unless things have changed significantly since I've been in the room, nothing actually works. The only people following through and doing constructive things are Melissa and the quiet, secluded flame people. Regards, Ben Rampling From davidm at iona.com.au Fri Feb 18 13:33:25 2000 From: davidm at iona.com.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:08 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits Message-ID: <40CD287F6F20D311A74B00A0C9A0C51C5D9298@frac.iona.com.au> Well, whilst we're in the glass house with a pocket full of pebbles, is the router ever likely to do appletalk, or is that a feature? Cheers /dave -----Original Message----- From: Ben Rampling [mailto:ben@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au] Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 1:19 PM To: tech@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Subject: Re: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits > Where have you been? There's lots happening on the alternative system > front. The more the merrier. No there isn't. Unless things have changed significantly since I've been in the room, nothing actually works. The only people following through and doing constructive things are Melissa and the quiet, secluded flame people. From ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 13:58:21 2000 From: ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Ben Rampling) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:08 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <20000218133817.I30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Nick Bannon at "Feb 18, 0 01:38:28 pm" Message-ID: <200002180558.NAA01594@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > MacOS was upgraded and is still working nicely. We've got a > new HP which Ian has to bring in. The Be needs an OS upgrade/reinstall, > but that's lower priority. Nautilus felt a little dead last time I looked at it, and the media was no where to be found. I'm not sure if it's code rot, or someone doing something stupid. We still haven't managed to get RedHat running on the Be, either. > > The only people following through and doing constructive things are > > Melissa > > Seriously? What? Huh? You're joking, right? From luyer at zip.com.au Fri Feb 18 14:06:44 2000 From: luyer at zip.com.au (David Luyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:08 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: Message from Leighton Haynes of "Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:04:17 +0800." <20000218130417.A11816@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20000218124601.C10220@yakk.net.au> <200002180457.MAA01351@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000218130417.A11816@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <200002180606.RAA28364@cactus.zip.net.au> > How about for variety, we get 4 boxes, install them with Debian, Redhat, > Suse, and Caldera Openlinux. Then we can have experience with all different > sorts of unix!! You forgot Corel, being Debian with the funky graphical LILO. Or maybe Debian Hurd? :-) David (what's that? BSD? did you mean BSoD?). -- David Luyer ///// // ///// // // www.pacific.net.au Network Engineer // // // // // // // Pacific Internet Phone: +61 2 9253 5704 ///// // ///// // // Fast 'n Easy Fax: +61 2 9247 5276 // // // // //// NASDAQ: PCNTF From davidb at dogmatix.rcpt.to Fri Feb 18 14:06:53 2000 From: davidb at dogmatix.rcpt.to (David Basden) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:09 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <200002180558.NAA01594@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from ben@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 01:58:21PM +0800 References: <20000218133817.I30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002180558.NAA01594@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000218170653.A600@dogmatix.rcpt.to> On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 01:58:21PM +0800, Ben Rampling wrote: > > MacOS was upgraded and is still working nicely. We've got a > > new HP which Ian has to bring in. The Be needs an OS upgrade/reinstall, > > but that's lower priority. > > Nautilus felt a little dead last time I looked at it, and the media was > no where to be found. I'm not sure if it's code rot, or someone doing > something stupid. We still haven't managed to get RedHat running on the > Be, either. Although this is probably a joke, I would suggest it prudent to castrate with tinsnips anyone that would install RedHat on the Be... .. D From luyer at zip.com.au Fri Feb 18 14:10:26 2000 From: luyer at zip.com.au (David Luyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:09 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: Message from David Basden of "Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:06:53 +1100." <20000218170653.A600@dogmatix.rcpt.to> References: <20000218133817.I30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002180558.NAA01594@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000218170653.A600@dogmatix.rcpt.to> Message-ID: <200002180610.RAA28454@cactus.zip.net.au> David Basden wrote: $msg = < Although this is probably a joke, I would suggest it prudent to castrate > with tinsnips anyone that would install RedHat on the Be... EOF $msg =~ s/on the Be//; print $msg; David. -- David Luyer ///// // ///// // // www.pacific.net.au Network Engineer // // // // // // // Pacific Internet Phone: +61 2 9253 5755 ///// // ///// // // Fast 'n Easy Fax: +61 2 9247 5276 // // // // //// NASDAQ: PCNTF From yakk at yakk.net.au Fri Feb 18 14:17:03 2000 From: yakk at yakk.net.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:09 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <200002180606.RAA28364@cactus.zip.net.au> References: <20000218124601.C10220@yakk.net.au> <200002180457.MAA01351@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000218130417.A11816@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002180606.RAA28364@cactus.zip.net.au> Message-ID: <20000218141703.E10220@yakk.net.au> On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 05:06:44PM +1100, David Luyer wrote: > > How about for variety, we get 4 boxes, install them with Debian, Redhat, > > Suse, and Caldera Openlinux. Then we can have experience with all different > > sorts of unix!! > > You forgot Corel, being Debian with the funky graphical LILO. > > Or maybe Debian Hurd? :-) > > David (what's that? BSD? did you mean BSoD?). > Its a bit unfair to associate Windows with FreeBSD. There have been far more FreeBSD security problems on Bugtraq in recent weeks than Windows ones. Ian -- Ian McKellar | Email: yakk(a)yakk.net | Web: http://www.yakk.net/ Fax: +61 (8) 9265 0821 / +0 (775) 205 0307 | Home: +61 (8) 9389 9152 If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. From yakk at yakk.net.au Fri Feb 18 14:19:21 2000 From: yakk at yakk.net.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:09 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] Shitty linux boxes give me the irrits In-Reply-To: <20000218170653.A600@dogmatix.rcpt.to> References: <20000218133817.I30999@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002180558.NAA01594@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000218170653.A600@dogmatix.rcpt.to> Message-ID: <20000218141921.F10220@yakk.net.au> On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 05:06:53PM +1100, David Basden wrote: > On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 01:58:21PM +0800, Ben Rampling wrote: > > > MacOS was upgraded and is still working nicely. We've got a > > > new HP which Ian has to bring in. The Be needs an OS upgrade/reinstall, > > > but that's lower priority. > > > > Nautilus felt a little dead last time I looked at it, and the media was > > no where to be found. I'm not sure if it's code rot, or someone doing > > something stupid. We still haven't managed to get RedHat running on the > > Be, either. > > Although this is probably a joke, I would suggest it prudent to castrate > with tinsnips anyone that would install RedHat on the Be... > LinuxPPC/BeBox is currently at the "almost boots" stage. I think it would be _fantastic_ if someone would work on the port in the UCC. Ian -- Ian McKellar | Email: yakk(a)yakk.net | Web: http://www.yakk.net/ Fax: +61 (8) 9265 0821 / +0 (775) 205 0307 | Home: +61 (8) 9389 9152 If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. From mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 14:54:00 2000 From: mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Mark Tearle) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:09 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: several messages In-Reply-To: <200002180625.OAA01637@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: > > Well, whilst we're in the glass house with a pocket full of pebbles, > is the router ever likely to do appletalk, or is that a feature? > > Cheers > /dave > Probably, the next time it is reinstalled :) On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Ben Rampling wrote: > > > The only people following through and doing constructive things are > > > Melissa > > > > Seriously? What? > > Huh? You're joking, right? > Of course, Ben doesn't use smileys when he is being sarcastic. And of course, Ben has actually been spending time in the clubroom :) Oday webmail works, needs a bit of hacking. On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Grahame Bowland wrote: > > On Feb 18, Nick Bannon wrote: > > > Who's coming to pizza tonight? Good opportunity to get started on morwong > > install/mermaid reinstall/kraken NIS/etc. > > Anyone with enough spare time to drop me somewhere homewards afterwards? > I will buy them pizza :) If not, it doesn't matter. I just wanted to see > what the more competent wheel members can achieve :-) > Sure. > > Sorry about NIS being broken. Linux NIS is broken badly, I didn't realise > > the extent of this at the time. After a fresh restart logging in to a NIS > > client box has no noticable delay. A day later the server starts to get > > slower, then slower... then stops. > > Blame the lack of speedy, reliable hardware. Software is never at fault, > even if it is Mailman. ;) > > Regards, > Ben Rampling > Well, it never helped with Mailman ... that we were running a release candidate version that was loading its code over NFS. Seems to work much more reliably now. Yours Mark -- Mark Tearle - mtearle@tartarus.uwa.edu.au "If a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man." - A Clockwork Orange From ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 15:05:59 2000 From: ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Ben Rampling) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: several messages In-Reply-To: from Mark Tearle at "Feb 18, 0 02:54:00 pm" Message-ID: <200002180705.PAA01728@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > > > > The only people following through and doing constructive things are > > > > Melissa > > > > > > Seriously? What? > > > > Huh? You're joking, right? > > > Of course, Ben doesn't use smileys when he is being sarcastic. That was me. Melissa doesn't follow things through or do constructive things for the club? The router seems to have atalkd running and a route table full of appletalk routes. Do we have a machine called dilbert? Regards, Ben Rampling From mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 17:46:42 2000 From: mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Mark Tearle) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: several messages In-Reply-To: <200002180705.PAA01728@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Ben Rampling wrote: > > > > > The only people following through and doing constructive things are > > > > > Melissa > > > > > > > > Seriously? What? > > > > > > Huh? You're joking, right? > > > > > Of course, Ben doesn't use smileys when he is being sarcastic. > > That was me. Melissa doesn't follow things through or do constructive things > for the club? > No, I think people were objecting to the start of your sentence "The only people ..." > The router seems to have atalkd running and a route table full of appletalk > routes. Do we have a machine called dilbert? > No, that was James elsewhere in the Guild. Fixed it now, had bogus details for it's other interfaces in /usr/local/etc/atalkd.conf Yours Mark -- Mark Tearle - mtearle@tartarus.uwa.edu.au "If a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man." - A Clockwork Orange From ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 17:51:16 2000 From: ben at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Ben Rampling) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: several messages In-Reply-To: from Mark Tearle at "Feb 18, 0 05:46:42 pm" Message-ID: <200002180951.RAA02153@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > No, I think people were objecting to the start of your sentence > "The only people ..." Oh, that bit was just stirring. No one piped up about what they were doing or hoping to do though, so assume it to be the case. ;) > Fixed it now, had bogus details for it's other interfaces in > /usr/local/etc/atalkd.conf Zonklicious. What would it take to get our own zone, out of curiosity? Regards, Ben Rampling From mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 18 18:05:53 2000 From: mtearle at tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Mark Tearle) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: several messages In-Reply-To: <200002180951.RAA02153@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Ben Rampling wrote: > > No, I think people were objecting to the start of your sentence > > "The only people ..." > > Oh, that bit was just stirring. No one piped up about what they were doing or > hoping to do though, so assume it to be the case. ;) > Nah, you know most UCCans are introverts, they wouldn't scream even if you were pulling their toenails out! > > Fixed it now, had bogus details for it's other interfaces in > > /usr/local/etc/atalkd.conf > > Zonklicious. What would it take to get our own zone, out of curiosity? > It would need to be set up on the seed router for the particular segment that the UCC link to the outside world is one. I think the seed router would be the Cisco, so essentially that would be dunc. For the moment, it's just "UWA Guild Cameron-Hall" Yours Mark -- Mark Tearle - mtearle@tartarus.uwa.edu.au "If a man cannot choose, he ceases to be a man." - A Clockwork Orange From fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Feb 19 16:41:06 2000 From: fryers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Simon Fryer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: several messages In-Reply-To: ; from Mark Tearle on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 06:05:53PM +0800 References: <200002180951.RAA02153@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000219164106.M9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bing > A while ago Mark Tearle tapped: > On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Ben Rampling wrote: > > > > No, I think people were objecting to the start of your sentence > > > "The only people ..." > > > > Oh, that bit was just stirring. No one piped up about what they were doing or > > hoping to do though, so assume it to be the case. ;) > > > Nah, you know most UCCans are introverts, they wouldn't scream even if you > were pulling their toenails out! Or it could be that we are busy doing stuff for UCC and not yelling about it. I am sure that I emailed out various bits and pieces that I have been doing during the week, with the assistance of many other UCC people. See Ya Simon -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Well, an engineer is not concerned with the truth; that is left to philosophers and theologians: the prime concern of an engineer is the utility of the final product." Lectures on the Electrical Properties of Materials, L.Solymar, D.Walsh From melissa at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Feb 19 17:21:10 2000 From: melissa at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Melissa Challenor) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:10 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] (Downtime) Mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000219163723.L9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Simon Fryer at "Feb 19, 2000 04:37:23 pm" Message-ID: <200002190921.RAA17544@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > Also, some network services may also be down for an undisclosed period > of time. If anyone is going to have problems with unavailability of UCC > services at a certain time, please email with details of when it is > essential. Note that we reserve the right to ignore requests at our > leasure. It just means that if you need x service and there are 4 tasks, we > will try and choose a task that will not interfear with service x. :-) > I think this makes sense. I hope that doesn't mean that any of these things are going to interfere with O Week ? Losing new members just because someone wants to play around is not an adequate excuse. Melissa -- "Protect me from what I want" Jenny Holtzer From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Feb 19 18:31:59 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:11 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] (Downtime) Mermaid In-Reply-To: <200002190921.RAA17544@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from melissa@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 05:21:10PM +0800 References: <20000219163723.L9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002190921.RAA17544@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000219183159.A17609@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > I hope that doesn't mean that any of these things are going to interfere > with O Week ? Losing new members just because someone wants to play around > is not an adequate excuse. A lot needs to happen to make things work okay for O'Week. This is mainly what Simon was referring to :-) -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Feb 20 02:18:36 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:11 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] (Downtime) Mermaid In-Reply-To: <200002190921.RAA17544@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from Melissa Challenor on Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 05:21:10PM +0800 References: <20000219163723.L9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002190921.RAA17544@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000220021835.A5409@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 19, Melissa Challenor scrawled : > > I hope that doesn't mean that any of these things are going to interfere > with O Week ? Losing new members just because someone wants to play around > is not an adequate excuse. > que? How would we lose new members by doing maintenance on the machine room? I am at a loss to understand this and an explanation might help me. I believe that the service interuptions will also only be occuring on Sunday and while there are plenty of other machines in the clubroom not needing playing with (nautilus for example) which you could use if you really really needed to do something. cya -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au redundancy, redundancy, reduncacy From alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Feb 20 18:24:32 2000 From: alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alastair Irvine) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:11 2004 Subject: [tech] Apache is wonky Message-ID: <20000220182432.C7140@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> We seem to be having some major problems with Apache on mooneye. A connection to port 80 (with Lynx or direct) from mussel gives the following results: [ GET / HTTP/1.0 [ HTTP/1.0 200 OK Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:08:40 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) Debian/GNU PHP/3.0.14 Last-Modified: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 05:37:20 GMT ETag: "87050-35-376f2110" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 53 Content-Type: text/html

go here Telling the server which virtual host you want (if there are any) doesn't seem to make a difference: [ GET / HTTP/1.0 [ Host: www.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [ HTTP/1.0 200 OK Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 09:09:34 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.9 (Unix) Debian/GNU PHP/3.0.14 Last-Modified: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 05:37:20 GMT ETag: "87050-35-376f2110" Accept-Ranges: bytes Content-Length: 53 Content-Type: text/html

go here Also, neither user home pages nor .ucc files can be found. As far as I can tell, these problems have been present for over a week. -- ... "As a general rule, don't solve puzzles that open portals to Hell" -- Survival Guide for the Supernatural _____________________________________________________________________ | | | -=*Alastair Irvine*=- | | System Administrator Magic:tG player, coder, RPGer, net-nut | | e-mail: alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au or alastair.irvine@usa.net | |_____________________________________________________________________| From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Feb 20 20:22:39 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:11 2004 Subject: [tech] Apache is wonky In-Reply-To: <20000220182432.C7140@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 06:24:32PM +0800 References: <20000220182432.C7140@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000220202239.A3931@moray.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > As far as I can tell, these problems have been present for over a week. We know. We're fixing it now :-) (Mermaid is sitting out in the clubroom being reinstalled and upgraded.) Thanks, -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 01:21:40 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:11 2004 Subject: [tech] they're coming ... In-Reply-To: ; from mtearle@tartarus.uwa.edu.au on Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 10:40:49AM +0800 References: <200002170156.JAA30451@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221012140.A575@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 10:40:49AM +0800, Mark Tearle wrote: > Let's just say the Verge Shopping Network was very fortuitous to UCC > last night, [...] The items in question are AT rackmount cases. Brand new, empty PC cases, suitable for insertion into 19" racks - well spotted, Mark. In other news, recent efforts have resulted in ; * mooneye reboxed in a rackmount case, with coke and door back to normal * black, the new HP 9000/715 running NEXTSTEP 3.3, needs network and account fiddling * morwong, the new Alphaserver 1000A running Digital UNIX 4.0, needs license hammering, then accounts, then more applications. * mermaid reboxed in a rackmount case, with a new IDE disc, starting to be reinstalled with Debian potato, but should be usable now. The old installation is available for inspection under /space. Keep a close eye on apache - the webpages may or may not work reliably. On a reboot, the network _should_ come up, unfortunately this may be after NFS drives are mounted, and they'll need fixing. It has a new tulip 100Mbit network card and can talk at multiple megs per second to mussel, at least. * Better power routing on the benchtop on the far side of the room from the door. * More floorspace, but more cleaning is still wanted this week... Meanwhile ; * malki's fallen ill (flaky motherboard, should be cheap to replace) * azure needs the 2GB SCSI drive (where did it go?) * erwin's dead (won't power on) and needs professional attention * scarlet may need a reinstall for 100MBps ethernet and/or NIS support * kraken needs setting up for NIS mastering. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 08:17:06 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:12 2004 Subject: [tech] Mermaid's kernel Message-ID: <20000221081706.A24496@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Mermaid is now running a stock 2.2.14 kernel. The network seems to be coming up happier now (support for this card is better in 2.2.) Compile a custom kernel if you think it'll help :-) Thanks, -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From bers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 09:37:32 2000 From: bers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Rohrlach) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:12 2004 Subject: [tech] they're coming ... In-Reply-To: <20000221012140.A575@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Nick Bannon wrote: > * malki's fallen ill (flaky motherboard, should be cheap to replace) ? a) What does malki do? b) What is it's components c) Why do we need to replace the motherboard? Nick -- -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Nick "bers" Rohrlach [NRR] bers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au 1999 UCC Treasurer 1999 Unigames Treasurer _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- From bers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 09:48:46 2000 From: bers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Rohrlach) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:12 2004 Subject: [tech] they're coming ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Nick Rohrlach wrote: > On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Nick Bannon wrote: > > * malki's fallen ill (flaky motherboard, should be cheap to replace) > > ? > > a) What does malki do? > > b) What is it's components > > c) Why do we need to replace the motherboard? I mean by this question - don't we have something already lying around or is this box really worth spending money on, those types of things. I was not questioning the merits of replacing a flaky motherboard - just the merits of replacing this particular one. Nick -- -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Nick "bers" Rohrlach [NRR] bers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au 1999 UCC Treasurer 1999 Unigames Treasurer _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- From yakk at yakk.net.au Mon Feb 21 10:01:05 2000 From: yakk at yakk.net.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:12 2004 Subject: [tech] they're coming ... In-Reply-To: <20000221012140.A575@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from nick@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 01:21:40AM +0800 References: <200002170156.JAA30451@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221012140.A575@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221100105.A1385@yakk.net.au> On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 01:21:40AM +0800, Nick Bannon wrote: > On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 10:40:49AM +0800, Mark Tearle wrote: > > Let's just say the Verge Shopping Network was very fortuitous to UCC > > last night, > [...] > > The items in question are AT rackmount cases. Brand new, empty PC cases, > suitable for insertion into 19" racks - well spotted, Mark. > > In other news, recent efforts have resulted in ; > > * black, the new HP 9000/715 running NEXTSTEP 3.3, needs network and > account fiddling Hey! When we installed it we called it poobrown! why the change? > > Meanwhile ; > > * malki's fallen ill (flaky motherboard, should be cheap to replace) Complain at CS? > > * erwin's dead (won't power on) and needs professional attention I'm gonna hastle the ex-head of SGI perth todayish. > > * scarlet may need a reinstall for 100MBps ethernet and/or NIS support I think I had scarlet doing NIS at one point. Ian PS: By the way - well done guys! From yakk at yakk.net.au Mon Feb 21 10:03:11 2000 From: yakk at yakk.net.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:12 2004 Subject: [tech] Mermaid's kernel In-Reply-To: <20000221081706.A24496@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 08:17:06AM +0800 References: <20000221081706.A24496@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221100311.B1385@yakk.net.au> On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 08:17:06AM +0800, Grahame Bowland wrote: > Mermaid is now running a stock 2.2.14 kernel. The network seems to be coming > up happier now (support for this card is better in 2.2.) Compile a custom > kernel if you think it'll help :-) 2.2.14 instroduces a new Tulip driver. It doesn't work with my old Tulip (10M card), so they've included the old driver as well. Do you know if the stock kernel uses the new or old driver? Ian From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 10:10:07 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:12 2004 Subject: [tech] malki problems, monitor warning In-Reply-To: ; from bers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 09:37:32AM +0800 References: <20000221012140.A575@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221101007.A24794@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 09:37:32AM +0800, Nick Rohrlach wrote: > a) What does malki do? Low end console box. > b) What is it's components It's the 32MB Pentium-133 (Socket 7, AT) we got from Tam (from CS). > c) Why do we need to replace the motherboard? [...] > I mean by this question - don't we have something already lying around or > is this box really worth spending money on, those types of things. I was > not questioning the merits of replacing a flaky motherboard - just the > merits of replacing this particular one. There was no video - it's happened before apparently, but the problem came back. Extensive testing yesterday and over the past week (Grahame, me, Mark, Richard Sather, etc) has determined that it's not just a dead video card, it's probably a flaky motherboard. Sometimes it boots, sometimes it boots but can't display anything at all (to the point of being up on the network happily), and sometimes it doesn't boot at all. There's plenty of options other than going to the shop and buying a brand new replacement. eg ; * do without * see if CS have any left and ask for a swap (way too late, I'm sure) * someone might well have a suitable spare lying around and we have but to ask * dismember it for parts * use the parts to build a cheap new system that's several times faster (though that's more expensive than simply fixing it, most likely). I have to say, it was very nice to have a decent machine to point to whenever someone whinged that we didn't have in the clubroom. "Well, why don't you install it on malki?" BTW - our two nicest VGA monitors, a Labtam 17" and another 14", have cable issues. Unless the cable at the back is bent properly, they have syncing or colour problems. Should be easy to fix, but someone's going to have to take a look. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 10:35:05 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:13 2004 Subject: [tech] they're coming ... In-Reply-To: <20000221100105.A1385@yakk.net.au>; from yakk@yakk.net.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 10:01:05AM +0800 References: <200002170156.JAA30451@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221012140.A575@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221100105.A1385@yakk.net.au> Message-ID: <20000221103505.B24794@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 10:01:05AM +0800, Ian McKellar wrote: [HP 9000/715] > Hey! > > When we installed it we called it poobrown! why the change? There's still time - when the enticingly named file "/etc/hostconfig" was edited, the machine stopped allowing root to log in and it had to be reverted. It won't work as is because its network settings are completely wrong. If we restore it to blank settings from ; /usr/template/client/etc then the SimpleNetworkStarter should be happy to change things again. Instructions are in /services/ftp/FAQs/nextanswers_1470.{html,text} . > > Meanwhile ; > > > > * malki's fallen ill (flaky motherboard, should be cheap to replace) > > Complain at CS? [...] Could do. I think they sold all their boxes, but maybe we could get some sort of consideration. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From maset at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 11:31:05 2000 From: maset at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grand Poobah Maset) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:13 2004 Subject: [tech] mussel Message-ID: wtf is with mussel? Is someone running a fork bomb or something? Maset the Grandiose. ------------------------------------------------- 3rd year BSc.(Neuroscience) student, UWA. Comparative neuroscience research assistant, UWA. UCC Sysadmin. Without suffering, how can one appreciate happiness? And how would we mark the depths of our sorrow, without the light of hope? From davidb at dogmatix.rcpt.to Mon Feb 21 11:43:21 2000 From: davidb at dogmatix.rcpt.to (David Basden) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:13 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [ucc] (Downtime) Mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000220021835.A5409@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 02:18:36AM +0800 References: <20000219163723.L9398@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002190921.RAA17544@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000220021835.A5409@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221144321.D600@dogmatix.rcpt.to> On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 02:18:36AM +0800, Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: > redundancy, redundancy, reduncacy Redundancy? You're posting this from the UCC? ;-) .. D From alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 12:39:17 2000 From: alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alastair Irvine) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:13 2004 Subject: [tech] Dodgy mutt operation on mermaid Message-ID: <20000221123915.A26417@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> mutt version 1.0.1i, when run on mermaid, seems to always open my mail spool file in read-only mode. This is not the case on mussel. Any ideas? -- ... "A friend of mine once sent me a post card with a picture of the entire planet Earth taken from space. On the back it said, 'Wish you were here.'" _____________________________________________________________________ | | | -=*Alastair Irvine*=- | | System Administrator Magic:tG player, coder, RPGer, net-nut | | e-mail: alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au or alastair.irvine@usa.net | |_____________________________________________________________________| From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 15:25:41 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:13 2004 Subject: [tech] Mermaid's kernel In-Reply-To: <20000221100311.B1385@yakk.net.au>; from yakk@yakk.net.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 10:03:11AM +0800 References: <20000221081706.A24496@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221100311.B1385@yakk.net.au> Message-ID: <20000221152541.A27378@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 21, Ian McKellar wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 08:17:06AM +0800, Grahame Bowland wrote: > > Mermaid is now running a stock 2.2.14 kernel. The network seems to be coming > > up happier now (support for this card is better in 2.2.) Compile a custom > > kernel if you think it'll help :-) > > 2.2.14 instroduces a new Tulip driver. It doesn't work with my old Tulip > (10M card), so they've included the old driver as well. Do you know if the > stock kernel uses the new or old driver? I don't know, but I knew from experience it works with Netgear FA-310TX cards (I have one.) -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 16:13:31 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:14 2004 Subject: [tech] malki problems, monitor warning In-Reply-To: <20000221101007.A24794@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from nick@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 10:10:07AM +0800 References: <20000221012140.A575@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221101007.A24794@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221161330.A27555@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 21, Nick Bannon scrawled : > * someone might well have a suitable spare lying around and we have but to ask > * dismember it for parts > * use the parts to build a cheap new system that's several times faster > (though that's more expensive than simply fixing it, most likely). > I have a P100 mobo at home not doing anything. It does have some wierdness with the onobard IDE controllers, but I do have a PCI replacement which might work. It shall be delivered to the machine room in the next couple of days. > BTW - our two nicest VGA monitors, a Labtam 17" and another 14", have > cable issues. Unless the cable at the back is bent properly, they have > there is the monitor that used to be on beowulf in the corner somewhere. I *think* it's a 15" and does 1024x768. later, -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au gotta www.wibble.org again From japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 16:15:28 2000 From: japester at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:14 2004 Subject: [tech] Dodgy mutt operation on mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000221123915.A26417@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 12:39:17PM +0800 References: <20000221123915.A26417@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221161528.B27555@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 21, Alastair Irvine scrawled : > mutt version 1.0.1i, when run on mermaid, seems to always open my mail > spool file in read-only mode. This is not the case on mussel. Any ideas? > this is because the default debian mutt is compiled with: make --enable-fcntl --disable-flock it should be the other way around to account for NFS mail spools. ie: make --disable-fcntl --enable-flock if someone could od this? cya, -- Jean-Paul Blaquiere japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au gotta www.wibble.org again From yakk at yakk.net.au Mon Feb 21 16:36:05 2000 From: yakk at yakk.net.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:14 2004 Subject: [tech] Dodgy mutt operation on mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000221161528.B27555@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 04:15:28PM +0800 References: <20000221123915.A26417@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221161528.B27555@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221163605.F1385@yakk.net.au> On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 04:15:28PM +0800, Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: > > On Feb 21, Alastair Irvine scrawled : > > > mutt version 1.0.1i, when run on mermaid, seems to always open my mail > > spool file in read-only mode. This is not the case on mussel. Any ideas? > > > this is because the default debian mutt is compiled with: > make --enable-fcntl --disable-flock > it should be the other way around to account for NFS mail spools. > ie: make --disable-fcntl --enable-flock > > if someone could od this? FYI: apt-get source mutt cd mutt-1.1.4/ vi debian/rules (make above changes to configure line) (fix bug in debian/rules kerberos/ssl detection) debuild (someone reboots machine in middle of compile without much notice) Anyway, what was _meant_ to happen was debuild was meant to create a new Debian package of mutt. I was compiling in /tmp, so the patches I made to debian/rules have been lost. Any enterprising wheel members interested in learning the debian build process? Ian From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 21 16:52:01 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:14 2004 Subject: [tech] Dodgy mutt operation on mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000221161528.B27555@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 04:15:28PM +0800 References: <20000221123915.A26417@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221161528.B27555@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221165201.A6971@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 21, Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: > > On Feb 21, Alastair Irvine scrawled : > > > mutt version 1.0.1i, when run on mermaid, seems to always open my mail > > spool file in read-only mode. This is not the case on mussel. Any ideas? > > > this is because the default debian mutt is compiled with: > make --enable-fcntl --disable-flock > it should be the other way around to account for NFS mail spools. > ie: make --disable-fcntl --enable-flock > > if someone could od this? Actually the problem was that we forgot to install nfs-common. Hence lockd wasn't running. -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From dunc at rcpt.to Mon Feb 21 17:15:30 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:14 2004 Subject: [tech] Dodgy mutt operation on mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000221161528.B27555@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from japester@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 04:15:28PM +0800 References: <20000221123915.A26417@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221161528.B27555@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221171529.B1070@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote on Mon February 21, at 16:15 +0800: > > On Feb 21, Alastair Irvine scrawled : > > > mutt version 1.0.1i, when run on mermaid, seems to always open my mail > > spool file in read-only mode. This is not the case on mussel. Any ideas? > > > this is because the default debian mutt is compiled with: > make --enable-fcntl --disable-flock > it should be the other way around to account for NFS mail spools. > ie: make --disable-fcntl --enable-flock Things have changed. Didn't know you could flock over NFS. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From dunc at rcpt.to Mon Feb 21 17:17:22 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:14 2004 Subject: [tech] Dodgy mutt operation on mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000221171529.B1070@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from dunc@rcpt.to on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 05:15:30PM +0800 References: <20000221123915.A26417@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221161528.B27555@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221171529.B1070@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000221171722.C1070@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> To tech@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote on Mon February 21, at 17:15 +0800: > > ie: make --disable-fcntl --enable-flock > > Things have changed. Didn't know you could flock over NFS. Must be that new Avian File System I keep hearing about. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From james at rcpt.to Mon Feb 21 23:18:22 2000 From: james at rcpt.to (James Bromberger) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:15 2004 Subject: [tech] Mermaid's kernel In-Reply-To: <20000221100311.B1385@yakk.net.au>; from yakk@yakk.net.au on Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 10:03:11AM +0800 References: <20000221081706.A24496@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000221100311.B1385@yakk.net.au> Message-ID: <20000221111840.A26023@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 10:03:11AM +0800, Ian McKellar wrote: > 2.2.14 instroduces a new Tulip driver. It doesn't work with my old Tulip > (10M card), so they've included the old driver as well. Do you know if the > stock kernel uses the new or old driver? The standard 'tulip' driver is the 'new' one. Use 'oldtulip' for the old one. James Who spent a about two days on separate weekends getting this to work, during which time the new SCSI drive had to wait because the old kernel didn't have a driver for the adapter, and a workstation on the network had a disk failure losing the information waiting to go on to the new SCSI disk... fsc*ing obscure changes! Aghhhhh! ;( -- James Bromberger Remainder moved to http://www.rcpt.to/~james/james/sig.html NB -- I shall be leaving UWA as of the 28th February 2000. Please continue to send all UWA CWIS related email to cwis@uwa.edu.au. My personal alias, james.bromberger@uwa.edu.au, should work for some time. From maset at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Feb 22 14:21:08 2000 From: maset at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grand Poobah Maset) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:15 2004 Subject: [tech] apache gone weird Message-ID: wasn't working at all... restarted apache on mooney and mermaid after remounting /services on mermaid. now working.... why oh why do things always break when im on my lunch break? *sigh* Maset the Grandiose. ------------------------------------------------- 3rd year BSc.(Neuroscience) student, UWA. Comparative neuroscience research assistant, UWA. UCC Sysadmin. Without suffering, how can one appreciate happiness? And how would we mark the depths of our sorrow, without the light of hope? From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Feb 22 15:17:05 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:15 2004 Subject: [tech] Mermaid's install Message-ID: <20000222151704.A13389@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Mermaid now has most of the packages it had before. Thanks to James for showing me the correct dpkg commands to feed its old package list through. Some of the more obviously unwanted packages have been removed, but at least this way mermaid is fully usable for O'Day. See you all at the meeting, -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Feb 23 16:48:09 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:15 2004 Subject: [tech] Dispense on mermaid Message-ID: <20000223164809.A23261@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> It works. Yay. :-) -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From dunc at rcpt.to Wed Feb 23 17:02:08 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:16 2004 Subject: [tech] Dispense on mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000223164809.A23261@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 04:48:09PM +0800 References: <20000223164809.A23261@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000223170208.B16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Grahame Bowland wrote on Wed February 23, at 16:48 +0800: > It works. Yay. :-) um yeah, someone had put mooneye's libucc in /usr/lib. The client libucc was in /usr/local/lib, so I added /usr/local/lib to /etc/ld.so.conf, deleted /usr/lib/libucc.*, and ran ldconfig. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Feb 23 17:04:13 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:16 2004 Subject: [tech] Dispense on mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000223170208.B16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from dunc@rcpt.to on Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 05:02:08PM +0800 References: <20000223164809.A23261@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170208.B16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000223170413.A23299@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 23, Duncan Sargeant wrote: > Grahame Bowland wrote on Wed February 23, at 16:48 +0800: > > It works. Yay. :-) > > um yeah, someone had put mooneye's libucc in /usr/lib. > The client libucc was in /usr/local/lib, so I added /usr/local/lib to > /etc/ld.so.conf, deleted /usr/lib/libucc.*, and ran ldconfig. Oh, I thought I'd done it :-) Whoops. (I recompiled it on mermaid after purging the broken package.) Oops. -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From dunc at rcpt.to Wed Feb 23 17:07:20 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:16 2004 Subject: [tech] Dispense on mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000223170413.A23299@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from gbowland@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 05:04:13PM +0800 References: <20000223164809.A23261@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170208.B16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170413.A23299@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000223170719.C16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Grahame Bowland wrote on Wed February 23, at 17:04 +0800: > Oh, I thought I'd done it :-) Whoops. (I recompiled it on mermaid after > purging the broken package.) You might well have. dispense was asking for a username/password when I left. ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From ian at harvestroad.com.au Wed Feb 23 17:09:12 2000 From: ian at harvestroad.com.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:17 2004 Subject: [tech] Dispense on mermaid In-Reply-To: <20000223170719.C16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from dunc@rcpt.to on Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 05:07:20PM +0800 References: <20000223164809.A23261@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170208.B16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170413.A23299@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170719.C16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000223170912.R6699@harvestroad.com.au> On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 05:07:20PM +0800, Duncan Sargeant wrote: > Grahame Bowland wrote on Wed February 23, at 17:04 +0800: > > Oh, I thought I'd done it :-) Whoops. (I recompiled it on mermaid after > > purging the broken package.) > > You might well have. dispense was asking for a username/password when I > left. That means its not SUID. Ian -- Ian McKellar , Software Engineer HarvestRoad Limited, Phone: 08 9384 4300, Fax: 08 9384 4377 217-219 Stirling Hwy, Claremont 6010, Western Australia http://www.harvestroad.com/ From luyer at zip.com.au Thu Feb 24 03:12:04 2000 From: luyer at zip.com.au (David Luyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:17 2004 Subject: [tech] Dispense on mermaid In-Reply-To: Message from ian@harvestroad.com.au (Ian McKellar) of "Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:09:12 +0800." <20000223170912.R6699@harvestroad.com.au> References: <20000223164809.A23261@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170208.B16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170413.A23299@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170719.C16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170912.R6699@harvestroad.com.au> Message-ID: <200002231912.GAA24017@cactus.zip.net.au> > > You might well have. dispense was asking for a username/password when I > > left. > > That means its not SUID. Or not in the server's trusted clients list, as the case may be. David. -- David Luyer ///// // ///// // // www.pacific.net.au Network Engineer // // // // // // // Pacific Internet Phone: +61 2 9253 5755 ///// // ///// // // Fast 'n Easy Fax: +61 2 9247 5276 // // // // //// NASDAQ: PCNTF From ian at harvestroad.com.au Thu Feb 24 09:23:48 2000 From: ian at harvestroad.com.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:17 2004 Subject: [tech] Dispense on mermaid In-Reply-To: <200002231912.GAA24017@cactus.zip.net.au>; from luyer@zip.com.au on Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 06:12:04AM +1100 References: <20000223164809.A23261@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170208.B16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170413.A23299@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170719.C16039@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20000223170912.R6699@harvestroad.com.au> <200002231912.GAA24017@cactus.zip.net.au> Message-ID: <20000224092348.S6699@harvestroad.com.au> On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 06:12:04AM +1100, David Luyer wrote: > > > You might well have. dispense was asking for a username/password when I > > > left. > > > > That means its not SUID. > > Or not in the server's trusted clients list, as the case may be. > But mermaid _would_ be in the trusted clients list :-) Ian -- Ian McKellar , Software Engineer HarvestRoad Limited, Phone: 08 9384 4300, Fax: 08 9384 4377 217-219 Stirling Hwy, Claremont 6010, Western Australia http://www.harvestroad.com/ From thalles at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Feb 24 11:01:09 2000 From: thalles at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Thalles Radhames Breyer de Melo) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:17 2004 Subject: [tech] Can't FTP Message-ID: Hi, I am not on the 'list' (whatever that means) so if you could please subscribe me that would be very much appreciated. My problem is this: I have some e-mails with attachments in my mermaid account. Since I cannot view them with telnet I have to FTP them out. So I save them to the home directory and try to connect to mermaid with a program like Fetch, but there is just no connection. I need this information urgently, but can't view it until I get those files into my computer. Last year I had no problems doing this, so I assume it must be because of some changes you guys performed on the system. Anyway, help would be appreciated ASAP (can't proceed with some of my experiments until I get this data). Thanks, Thalles From ian at harvestroad.com.au Thu Feb 24 11:08:05 2000 From: ian at harvestroad.com.au (Ian McKellar) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:18 2004 Subject: [tech] Can't FTP In-Reply-To: ; from thalles@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 11:01:09AM +0800 References: Message-ID: <20000224110804.A26054@harvestroad.com.au> On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 11:01:09AM +0800, Thalles Radhames Breyer de Melo wrote: > > Hi, > > I am not on the 'list' (whatever that means) so if you could please > subscribe me that would be very much appreciated. > > My problem is this: > > I have some e-mails with attachments in my mermaid account. Since I > cannot view them with telnet I have to FTP them out. So I save them to > the home directory and try to connect to mermaid with a program like > Fetch, but there is just no connection. I need this information urgently, > but can't view it until I get those files into my computer. Last year I > had no problems doing this, so I assume it must be because of some changes > you guys performed on the system. > > Anyway, help would be appreciated ASAP (can't proceed with some of my > experiments until I get this data). The easiest way is probably to put them up on a web page for download. Make a public_html directory in your home directory, and put them in there. Often the file permissions on saved attachments are quite facist, so you might need to do a "chmod a+r" on the files. Ian -- Ian McKellar , Software Engineer HarvestRoad Limited, Phone: 08 9384 4300, Fax: 08 9384 4377 217-219 Stirling Hwy, Claremont 6010, Western Australia http://www.harvestroad.com/ From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Feb 24 11:11:33 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:18 2004 Subject: [tech] Can't FTP In-Reply-To: ; from thalles@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 11:01:09AM +0800 References: Message-ID: <20000224111133.A20158@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 24, Thalles Radhames Breyer de Melo wrote: > > Hi, > > I am not on the 'list' (whatever that means) so if you could please > subscribe me that would be very much appreciated. > > My problem is this: > > I have some e-mails with attachments in my mermaid account. Since I > cannot view them with telnet I have to FTP them out. So I save them to > the home directory and try to connect to mermaid with a program like > Fetch, but there is just no connection. I need this information urgently, > but can't view it until I get those files into my computer. Last year I > had no problems doing this, so I assume it must be because of some changes > you guys performed on the system. > > Anyway, help would be appreciated ASAP (can't proceed with some of my > experiments until I get this data). Try now, I just reinstalled the ftp daemon. (And the directory for HTML is public-html, not what Ian said :-) If it still doesn't work try: mermaid.waix.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au mussel.waix.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thanks, -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From maset at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Feb 24 13:59:11 2000 From: maset at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grand Poobah Maset) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:18 2004 Subject: [tech] news on pine Message-ID: is now set to news.uwa.edu.au Maset the Grandiose. ------------------------------------------------- 3rd year BSc.(Neuroscience) student, UWA. Comparative neuroscience research assistant, UWA. UCC Sysadmin. Without suffering, how can one appreciate happiness? And how would we mark the depths of our sorrow, without the light of hope? From comrade at obverse.com.au Thu Feb 24 15:11:36 2000 From: comrade at obverse.com.au (Peter Cooper) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:18 2004 Subject: [tech] A nifty nifty thing, especially if you're into OS boot stuff Message-ID: <20000224081136.Y1458@obverse.com.au> http://www.realweasel.com/ -- waste: a verb not a noun From davidb at dogmatix.rcpt.to Thu Feb 24 15:22:55 2000 From: davidb at dogmatix.rcpt.to (David Basden) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:19 2004 Subject: [tech] A nifty nifty thing, especially if you're into OS boot stuff In-Reply-To: <20000224081136.Y1458@obverse.com.au>; from comrade@obverse.com.au on Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 08:11:36AM +0100 References: <20000224081136.Y1458@obverse.com.au> Message-ID: <20000224182255.T600@dogmatix.rcpt.to> On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 08:11:36AM +0100, Peter Cooper wrote: > http://www.realweasel.com/ And here was I thinking it was like http://www.realdoll.com/ Very cute piece of hardware though. .. D From dayta at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Feb 24 16:28:48 2000 From: dayta at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Leighton Haynes) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:19 2004 Subject: [tech] A nifty nifty thing, especially if you're into OS boot stuff In-Reply-To: <20000224182255.T600@dogmatix.rcpt.to>; from davidb@dogmatix.rcpt.to on Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 06:22:55PM +1100 References: <20000224081136.Y1458@obverse.com.au> <20000224182255.T600@dogmatix.rcpt.to> Message-ID: <20000224162848.D19566@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 06:22:55PM +1100, David Basden wrote: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 08:11:36AM +0100, Peter Cooper wrote: > > http://www.realweasel.com/ > > And here was I thinking it was like http://www.realdoll.com/ > > Very cute piece of hardware though. > And scarily similar to a piece I designed for work not a month ago. On the bright side, we might be able to save 3 months of development costs now :) Leighton... -- 4th Year BE(IT) Hons. student. UCC Sysadmin. From luyer at zip.com.au Thu Feb 24 22:14:08 2000 From: luyer at zip.com.au (David Luyer) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:19 2004 Subject: [tech] A nifty nifty thing, especially if you're into OS boot stuff In-Reply-To: Message from Peter Cooper of "Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:11:36 BST." <20000224081136.Y1458@obverse.com.au> References: <20000224081136.Y1458@obverse.com.au> Message-ID: <200002241414.BAA02716@cactus.zip.net.au> > http://www.realweasel.com/ Pricing: $US 250 + shipping. Bulk discounts: Not until second batch are built (this batch were an expensive low-volume initial run and are in high demand). Caveats: Well, I don't expect the 1RU or 2RU Rack-Mount servers (Intel, IBM and similar) we're going to be rolling out in bulk have ISA slots :/ Don't know if they already have serial-aware BIOS though, we're taking first delivery of 2RU units next week. Also most m/b's with 6 PCI slots don't have ISA. Comments: Very, very cool. Means that, except as under caveats, everything in a small remote POP can be on the console servers (UPSs, power controllers, routers, dial boxes, switches, caches, alteons, nameservers, front-end application redirection servers, etc) and hence accessible by modem and/or network (unless you loose both the net and the modem to both console servers in the POP). David. -- David Luyer ///// // ///// // // www.pacific.net.au Network Engineer // // // // // // // Pacific Internet Phone: +61 2 9253 5755 ///// // ///// // // Fast 'n Easy Fax: +61 2 9247 5276 // // // // //// NASDAQ: PCNTF From japest at tartarus.uwa.edu.au Thu Feb 24 22:50:09 2000 From: japest at tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Jean-Paul Blaquiere) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:19 2004 Subject: [tech] fcntl locks timing out Message-ID: <20000224225009.A12025@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> somethings gone screwy with nfs at ucc. mutt on both mermaid and mussel are timing out on fcntl locks. cya, From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 25 01:05:18 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:19 2004 Subject: [tech] fcntl locks timing out In-Reply-To: <20000224225009.A12025@tartarus.uwa.edu.au>; from japest@tartarus.uwa.edu.au on Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 10:50:09PM +0800 References: <20000224225009.A12025@tartarus.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000225010517.A3731@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 24, Jean-Paul Blaquiere wrote: > > somethings gone screwy with nfs at ucc. > mutt on both mermaid and mussel are timing out on fcntl locks. Fixed by use of a rubber chicken. -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From bongus at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 25 14:00:36 2000 From: bongus at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Angus Stewart) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:20 2004 Subject: [tech] samba Message-ID: Hiya, could someone please fix samba on mermaid? Not urgent... I use it sometimes. Cheers, Angus :) From bers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Feb 25 15:34:43 2000 From: bers at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Rohrlach) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:20 2004 Subject: [tech] samba In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 25 Feb 2000, Angus Stewart wrote: > Hiya, > could someone please fix samba on mermaid? Not urgent... I use it > sometimes. It looks fine it just seems to be having password problems which I suppose is linked up to the whole NIS is farked thing. Nick -- -_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Nick "bers" Rohrlach [NRR] bers@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au 1999 UCC Treasurer 1999 Unigames Treasurer _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_- From acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Feb 27 14:33:20 2000 From: acolyte at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Bailey) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:20 2004 Subject: [tech] Scarlet Message-ID: <20000227143320.A15534@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Scarlet is plugged in and running, I assume that scarlet has to use the on board network socket rather than the on that is on the card. Also someone with root needs to mount home directories. Andrew. -- "A fatal error has occured between design and implementation" From gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Feb 27 14:50:26 2000 From: gbowland at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Grahame Bowland) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:20 2004 Subject: [tech] Scarlet In-Reply-To: <20000227143320.A15534@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from acolyte@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Sun, Feb 27, 2000 at 02:33:20PM +0800 References: <20000227143320.A15534@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000227145026.A19443@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Feb 27, Andrew Bailey wrote: > Scarlet is plugged in and running, > > I assume that scarlet has to use the on board network socket rather > than the on that is on the card. > > Also someone with root needs to mount home directories. Done :-) -- Grahame Bowland OCM of UCC and UniSFA, UCC syadmin Email: gbowland(a)gbowland.com Web: http://www.gbowland.com/ From alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 28 01:28:54 2000 From: alastair at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Alastair Irvine) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:20 2004 Subject: [tech] mermaid:/usr/local/include Message-ID: <20000228012854.B9483@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> I have noticed something strange about mermaid... I was looking for ucc.h (or whatever) and I found out that /usr/local/include is a file, not a directory. I suspect that someone went "cp footle /usr/local/include" as root without bothering to first check if the latter existed. The file has a don't-distribute header by Luyer and it's owned by cg-real. I would guess that it's not supposed to be there. -- ... It's not hard to meet expenses. They're everywhere. _____________________________________________________________________ | | | -=*Alastair Irvine*=- | | System Administrator Magic:tG player, coder, RPGer, net-nut | | e-mail: alastair@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au or alastair.irvine@usa.net | |_____________________________________________________________________| From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 28 10:37:43 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:21 2004 Subject: [tech] Re: [wheel] hostfiles In-Reply-To: <20000228102846.H12813@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> from Nick Bannon at "Feb 28, 2000 10:28:47 am" Message-ID: <200002280237.KAA10819@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 09:53:06AM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > Hiya - can anyone tell me WTF is with the hosts file on mola? > > What was with the a,b,c...etc crap? > > 1. That's all commented out. I noticed. > 2. It was an attempt some time ago to make our monster NFS exports lines > manageable. Export to the machines a:b:c:... and simply define those > hosts in /etc/hosts as required or as 127.0.0.1 if not. Ahh. I thought you might reply, Nick - I was looking for someone else to own up. Now it maketh sense. > Replace it with netgroups or the automatically built dfstab or something. Mmm. > > I'm currently fiddling with name resolution on various boxen - it may pay > > to tell the linux boxen about NIS in the host.conf. Have done so on > > mermaid. > > OK... If we can get it to work with DNS only, that'd be better. Why so? > > Why is mermaid pointing to morwong as the NIS server, BTW..? > > Doesn't seem to be. Perhaps morwong's just answering broadcasts quicker > than dominance or something. Another question is - why is it mattering? > is morwong failing to get NIS updates? I beg to differ: mermaid:~# yppoll -h dominance -d womblefish hosts.byname Domain womblefish is supported. Map hosts.byname has order number 951702610. [Mon Feb 28 09:50:10 2000] The master server is dominance. mermaid:~# date Mon Feb 28 10:06:55 WST 2000 mermaid:~# ypwhich morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Yes, morwong seems to not be getting NIS updates. I suspect that we need to cron a ypxfer on dominance - it pushes, rather than the slaves pulling. Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 28 10:47:05 2000 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:21 2004 Subject: [tech] hostfiles In-Reply-To: <200002280237.KAA10819@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>; from mustang@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au on Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 10:37:43AM +0800 References: <20000228102846.H12813@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <200002280237.KAA10819@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20000228104705.J12813@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Mon, Feb 28, 2000 at 10:37:43AM +0800, David Manchester wrote: > > OK... If we can get it to work with DNS only, that'd be better. > > Why so? So it's not so hairy with multiple levels of fallback and configuration. Files, then DNS, everywhere, is simpler and more easy to check than files, NIS, DNS in whatever order and fallback sequence is defined in today's host.conf/nsswitch.conf on each machine. > > > Why is mermaid pointing to morwong as the NIS server, BTW..? [...] > mermaid:~# ypwhich > morwong.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au ----- mermaid: ~>cat /etc/yp.conf #10:43AM # # yp.conf Configuration file for the ypbind process. You can define # NIS servers manually here if they can't be found by # broadcasting on the local net (which is the default). # # See the manual page of ypbind for the syntax of this file. # # ypserver ypserver.network.com #ypserver mooneye.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #ypserver mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au ----- Is that all that needs changing? to explicitly point to dominance? That won't fall back to any slaves though, will it? > Yes, morwong seems to not be getting NIS updates. I suspect that we need to > cron a ypxfer on dominance - it pushes, rather than the slaves pulling. Ahhh... sounds good. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick@it.net.au | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Feb 28 15:45:14 2000 From: mustang at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Manchester) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:21 2004 Subject: [tech] NIS across subnets Message-ID: <200002280745.PAA12378@mermaid.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> http://www.ee.pdx.edu/~rootd/sunfaq/nis.html Check some of the stuff on that. Especially http://ume.med.calgary.ca/usenet/Sun/0061.html Cheers /dave -- / David Manchester [TDH] Netware/UNIX droid. \ Tell someone who's interested, tell someone who can keep their lunch digested Tell someone who wants your conversation, tell someone who doesn't regard you \as an argument for compulsory sterilisation." [TISM], `How Do I Love Thee?'/ From dunc at rcpt.to Mon Feb 28 15:50:26 2000 From: dunc at rcpt.to (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:21 2004 Subject: [tech] A nifty nifty thing, especially if you're into OS boot stuff In-Reply-To: <20000224182255.T600@dogmatix.rcpt.to>; from davidb@dogmatix.rcpt.to on Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 06:22:55PM +1100 References: <20000224081136.Y1458@obverse.com.au> <20000224182255.T600@dogmatix.rcpt.to> Message-ID: <20000228155026.D12534@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> David Basden wrote on Thu February 24, at 18:22 +1100: > On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 08:11:36AM +0100, Peter Cooper wrote: > > http://www.realweasel.com/ > > And here was I thinking it was like http://www.realdoll.com/ YM http://www.realhamster.com/ ,dunc -- Duncan Sargeant "First, never insult the giant purple iguanas in the corner, they are assholes with no sense of humor. Second, don't touch the red button, if you do we are all as good as dead. Welcome aboard, I am sure you will enjoy your stay." - G:ML From thalles at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Feb 29 16:11:53 2000 From: thalles at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Thalles Radhames Breyer de Melo) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:21 2004 Subject: [tech] Time running out Message-ID: Hello, I have been a member of the UCC for a few years now. Over this time my e-mail account has become absolutely essential for my existence at uni. This year I have decided not to renew my membership with the UCC, and have applied for an account with the university computing services. However, I have not heard back from them yet (should do so over the next few days). I was just wondering when it is that you guys are going to shut down my account (and effectively cripple my academic life if I don't have another one set up by then). If I have an exact date then I know when temporary measures would have to be set up (if computing services end up shafting me in their bureocracy). Sorry about all this. Thalles From melissa at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Feb 29 16:53:57 2000 From: melissa at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Melissa Challenor) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:21 2004 Subject: [tech] Monitor... Message-ID: <200002290853.QAA20766@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Hi Grahame says that a monitor is missing and there seems to be a big hole where mulders monitor used to be. Has anyone taken it or we to assume that someone in door is in lots and lots of troublr :-) Melissa -- "Protect me from what I want" Jenny Holtzer From melissa at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Feb 29 17:02:46 2000 From: melissa at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Melissa Challenor) Date: Wed Oct 27 01:19:22 2004 Subject: [tech] Time running out In-Reply-To: from Thalles Radhames Breyer de Melo at "Feb 29, 2000 04:11:53 pm" Message-ID: <200002290902.RAA22787@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> > I have been a member of the UCC for a few years now. Over this time my > e-mail account has become absolutely essential for my existence at > uni. This year I have decided not to renew my membership with the UCC, > and have applied for an account with the university computing > services. However, I have not heard back from them yet (should do so over > the next few days). I was just wondering when it is that you guys are > going to shut down my account (and effectively cripple my academic life if > I don't have another one set up by then). If I have an exact date then I > know when temporary measures would have to be set up (if computing > services end up shafting me in their bureocracy). I assume you aren't going to join the UCC for financial reasons (becuase thats the only reason I could think of right now). We will be looking at shutting old accounts down when we get to it, which will probably be in about 2 months, but could be sooner depending on how much study avoidance is needed early on in semester. If you are a graduate and are thinking of moving your account to cygnus I think you'll find us a lot cheaper, they charge $15 setup, $25 per year to be a member of the graduate club, $16 a month for access. If you are still an undergrad you will be able to get tartarus access which is limited and not as relaible as the UCC, but free. Hope that all helps, if you decide to still not rejoin the UCC perhaps you could let us know why and what we could have done to keep your patronage ? Thanks Melissa -- "Protect me from what I want" Jenny Holtzer