[tech] Mac stuff

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Wed Apr 17 10:46:05 WST 2002


On Wed, 2002-04-17 at 04:41, Simon Fryer wrote:

    Bingle
    
    > A while ago Riff tapped:
    
    > Alternatively, before I restart this particular flame thread, I'm
    led to
    > believe there are Net and FreeBSD ports to m68k.
    
    There is an OpenBSD post to the M68k platform. As an interesting
    side note, 
    the packages for the M68k platform work on a number of different
    hardware 
    platforms. My HP300 uses the same M68k packages as the Macs and a
    couple of 
    other machines from memory. 

Yeah, I think it works on a pile of chips made by HP, Atari, Amiga etc.
(I'm not sure if they all have comparable motorolla chipsets or not).
But they are there in the compatability list.

    > After all there only terminals, so surely a purer ssh would be
    good.
    > or at the very least, install a better ssh client (one that does
    > colours), and perhaps nsca mosaic (if it still exists) to do X
    > forwarding.
    
    You clearly have not tried this. Let us just say that well, any
    graphical 
    web browser generates a lot of X traffic. And well, ssh has to
    encrypt all
    this traffic. Running on a slow CPU, the time required to encrypt
    and decrytpt
    X traffic is significant. The HP300 I use has a 50MHz 68030 and this
    gave 
    rather sluggish X performance when using X forwarding and SSH. I
    don't want to
    think about this with anything slower. 

I wasn't suggesting X over ssh (that WOULD be evil and slow). However a
better ssh client then niftyTelnet would be nice. Considering the macs
are coloured a telnet/ssh client capable of ansi colours would be very
convienient (especially for BitchX ;)
Mosaic is a program I came across in the NSCA tools that were originally
on my mac when I acquired it. However it is not actually the program I
was thinking of, as Mosaic is a primative webbrowser.
I'm sure there must be a program able to run X on a mac display (under
macOs) similar to winaXe (and other such programs) for putting X on
windows.

Still it would be fun to port a few of them to a range of
distros/platforms. Considering that would give them very nice telnet/ssh
facility, and would give them full colour capability, and maintain the
usefulness of the terminal for when all the door members deceide they
have to go to class.

--davYd
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