Waiting for the AAP men to let me know what's wrong with it... So I upgraded morwong to openssh-3.5p1. Seems to all work, the trick was to #define BROKEN_GETADDRINFO in config.h, then it compiled fine. It was also necessary to #define _OSF_SOURCE. I also upgraded mermaid to openssh 3.4p1 lest someone break into it. Cheers Grahame