From mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Oct 1 13:25:37 2009 From: mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 13:25:37 +0800 Subject: [tech] Judean Message-ID: <20091001132537.33073od2241847y8@secure.ucc.asn.au> Hi All, While looking for a good spot for "Un-named UPS" I found Judean was blasting out warm air into the MR. Chris S and myself have since fixed this. It would probably explain the warmth in the MR today. Mitch From mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Oct 1 20:19:15 2009 From: mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:19:15 +0800 Subject: [tech] Naming scheme for Power devices Message-ID: <20091001201915.18355rh81haqk9ds@secure.ucc.asn.au> Hi All, I notice we have no Naming scheme for \"Power Devices\" such as UPS\'s, Solar etc. So i thought perhaps we could name them after \"Famous Power Plants\" and as a result i came up with \"Itaipu\" for the 3Kva UPS. From Wikipedia: The name \"Itaipu\" was taken from an isle that existed near the construction site. In the Guarani language, Itaipu means \"the sound of a stone\". The American composer Philip Glass has also written a symphonic cantata named Itaipu, in honour of the structure. On May 5, 1984, the first generation unit started running in Itaipu. The first 18 units were installed at the rate of two to three a year; the last two of these started running in the year 1991. The last two of the 20 electric generation units started operations in September 2006 and in March 2007, thus raising the installed capacity to 14,000 MW and completing the power plant. This increase in capacity will allow for 18 generation units to remain running all of the time while two stay down for maintenance. Due to a clause in the treaty signed between Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina, the maximum number of generating units allowed to operate simultaneously can not exceed 18 (see the agreement section for more information). Mitch From ian at mckellar.org Thu Oct 1 20:49:36 2009 From: ian at mckellar.org (Ian McKellar) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:49:36 +0200 Subject: [tech] [ucc] Naming scheme for Power devices In-Reply-To: <20091001201915.18355rh81haqk9ds@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20091001201915.18355rh81haqk9ds@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <83cf34410910010549y3c6baa9fi8d1ed0806622ba14@mail.gmail.com> FWIW, I like this. Bring on Three Mile Island! Ian On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:19 PM, wrote: > Hi All, > > I notice we have no Naming scheme for \"Power Devices\" such as UPS\'s, > Solar etc. > > So i thought perhaps we could name them after \"Famous Power Plants\" and as > a result i came up with \"Itaipu\" for the 3Kva UPS. > > From Wikipedia: > The name \"Itaipu\" was taken from an isle that existed near the > construction site. In the Guarani language, Itaipu means \"the sound of a > stone\". The American composer Philip Glass has also written a symphonic > cantata named Itaipu, in honour of the structure. > > On May 5, 1984, the first generation unit started running in Itaipu. The > first 18 units were installed at the rate of two to three a year; the last > two of these started running in the year 1991. > > The last two of the 20 electric generation units started operations in > September 2006 and in March 2007, thus raising the installed capacity to > 14,000 MW and completing the power plant. This increase in capacity will > allow for 18 generation units to remain running all of the time while two > stay down for maintenance. Due to a clause in the treaty signed between > Brazil, Paraguay and Argentina, the maximum number of generating units > allowed to operate simultaneously can not exceed 18 (see the agreement > section for more information). > > Mitch > > > -- Ian McKellar +1 415 867 9255 ian at mckellar.org: email | jabber | msn ianloic: flickr | aim | yahoo | skype | linkedin | etc. From blinken at gmail.com Thu Oct 1 23:07:45 2009 From: blinken at gmail.com (Patrick Coleman) Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 23:07:45 +0800 Subject: [tech] Naming scheme for Power devices In-Reply-To: <20091001201915.18355rh81haqk9ds@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20091001201915.18355rh81haqk9ds@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <603140b60910010807y7e7b380y3bbaa76c7ee60f3b@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, wrote: > Hi All, > > I notice we have no Naming scheme for \"Power Devices\" such as UPS\'s, > Solar etc. > > So i thought perhaps we could name them after \"Famous Power Plants\" s/Power Plants/Power Plants that blew up/, in keeping with the "ships that sank in a terrible disaster" scheme for macs :) -Patrick -- http://www.labyrinthdata.net.au - WA Backup, Web and VPS Hosting From camandco at gmail.com Fri Oct 2 00:15:39 2009 From: camandco at gmail.com (Cameron Fitzgerald) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:15:39 +0800 Subject: [tech] [ucc] Naming scheme for Power devices In-Reply-To: <603140b60910010807y7e7b380y3bbaa76c7ee60f3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091001201915.18355rh81haqk9ds@secure.ucc.asn.au> <603140b60910010807y7e7b380y3bbaa76c7ee60f3b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <26949b050910010915w667cd7e5j9be30a45825e517b@mail.gmail.com> Clearly next on the list has to be Chernobyl then... On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:07 PM, Patrick Coleman wrote: > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I notice we have no Naming scheme for \"Power Devices\" such as UPS\'s, > > Solar etc. > > > > So i thought perhaps we could name them after \"Famous Power Plants\" > > s/Power Plants/Power Plants that blew up/, in keeping with the "ships > that sank in a terrible disaster" scheme for macs :) > > -Patrick > > -- > http://www.labyrinthdata.net.au - WA Backup, Web and VPS Hosting > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/tech/attachments/20091002/9cdf7033/attachment.htm From maset at ucc.asn.au Fri Oct 2 08:37:24 2009 From: maset at ucc.asn.au (Anil Sharma ) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 08:37:24 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] [ucc] Naming scheme for Power devices In-Reply-To: <26949b050910010915w667cd7e5j9be30a45825e517b@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091001201915.18355rh81haqk9ds@secure.ucc.asn.au> <603140b60910010807y7e7b380y3bbaa76c7ee60f3b@mail.gmail.com> <26949b050910010915w667cd7e5j9be30a45825e517b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, Cameron Fitzgerald wrote: > Clearly next on the list has to be Chernobyl then... I would think 3 Mile Island would be better. Our aircons don't blow up, they just meltdown and stop working. Maset the Grandiose. ------------------------------------------------- Without suffering, how can one appreciate happiness? And how would we mark the depths of our sorrow, without the light of hope? From michael at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Oct 2 09:46:37 2009 From: michael at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Michael Deegan) Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 09:46:37 +0800 Subject: [tech] [ucc] Naming scheme for Power devices In-Reply-To: References: <20091001201915.18355rh81haqk9ds@secure.ucc.asn.au> <603140b60910010807y7e7b380y3bbaa76c7ee60f3b@mail.gmail.com> <26949b050910010915w667cd7e5j9be30a45825e517b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20091002014637.GZ11943@wibble.darktech.org> On Fri, Oct 02, 2009 at 08:37:24AM +0800, Anil Sharma wrote: > On Fri, 2 Oct 2009, Cameron Fitzgerald wrote: >> Clearly next on the list has to be Chernobyl then... > > I would think 3 Mile Island would be better. Our aircons don't blow up, > they just meltdown and stop working. I thought freezing up was far more common behaviour than melting down? :P -MD -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Deegan Hugaholic http://wibble.darktech.org/gallery/ ------------------------- Nyy Tybel Gb Gur Ulcabgbnq! ------------------------- From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Oct 4 11:50:51 2009 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 11:50:51 +0800 Subject: [tech] Power situation in Machine Room Message-ID: <20091004115051.25701xi7slwxwsyo@secure.ucc.asn.au> Well howdy ya'll, As most of you would be aware by now I imagine, the University/Guild conducted surprise RCD testing the other day (grrr). The outcome of this was that: a) an RCD does in fact need replacing; b) the electrician was of the opinion that we really did need to sort out the power situation in the MR - he was happy to turn a blind eye, but did strongly urge us to fix it to improve safety. So, to address (b), here are some ideas for discussion: 1) Power distribution strips in the racks to stop the power boards dangling around - doesn't even have to be proper ones, could be just some longer power boards cable tied into the rack 2) Hooks on the roof to carry extension leads coming off the boards to get them up off the floor 3) Racking up Mermaid and Merassu to: (a) Improve airflow around them (b) Keep them with all the other servers where we have networking gear and power - this in theory should make them easier to put on the UPS should we want to. Not power related, but some other things I've been pondering while in the clubroom today: - tidying up the cat5 spaghetti - can utilise the same hooks on the roof - given that the MR is an enclosed space with a higher risk of fire due to its contents, it should probably, in theory, have a A:B (E) fire extinguisher. Anyway, as I said, ideas to discuss - ideally some of this could be carried out before Wednesday when the RCD gets replaced (or at the same time if the powers going to be off anyway) - I fly out to Sydney on Tuesday but can try and action some of this stuff either today (Sunday) or Monday morning if people are happy. Cheers, Matt [MRD] From blinken at gmail.com Sun Oct 4 21:10:17 2009 From: blinken at gmail.com (Patrick Coleman) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:10:17 +0800 Subject: [tech] Power situation in Machine Room In-Reply-To: <20091004115051.25701xi7slwxwsyo@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20091004115051.25701xi7slwxwsyo@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <603140b60910040610n7e69727ck4b398210fadb3f57@mail.gmail.com> On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:50 AM, wrote: > ?- tidying up the cat5 spaghetti Second that. I've tried to do it in the past, but got foiled by lack of proper cable management and my unwillingness to break everything. If UCC picks up 2-3 good[1] cable managers and some velcro[2], I'm happy to volunteer and clean it up. -Patrick [1] Good := Krone. http://www.adckrone.com.au/adc/catalogue/detail_x_pn.asp?strPartNumber=6450%201%20050-20 is what we specify at work, and it's great stuff. Can get pricing from our supplier if UCC can't steal them from somewhere. [2] Velcro strips with holes: http://cableorganizer.com/wire-wrap/. Again, can get pricing if people want. -- http://www.labyrinthdata.net.au - WA Backup, Web and VPS Hosting From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Oct 4 21:50:39 2009 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:50:39 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Power situation in Machine Room In-Reply-To: <20091004115051.25701xi7slwxwsyo@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20091004115051.25701xi7slwxwsyo@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: There is a fire extinguisher out in the Cameron Hall corridor. If there is a fire in the machine room, I would imagine that you would want the fire extinguisher where you can get to it (ie not IN the machine room). Perhaps a smoke alarm would be of more use? The power ideas seem good though. Bob [BOB] On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: > Well howdy ya'll, > > As most of you would be aware by now I imagine, the University/Guild > conducted surprise RCD testing the other day (grrr). > > The outcome of this was that: > a) an RCD does in fact need replacing; > b) the electrician was of the opinion that we really did need to sort out > the power situation in the MR - he was happy to turn a blind eye, but did > strongly urge us to fix it to improve safety. > > So, to address (b), here are some ideas for discussion: > > 1) Power distribution strips in the racks to stop the power boards dangling > around > - doesn't even have to be proper ones, could be just some longer power > boards cable tied into the rack > 2) Hooks on the roof to carry extension leads coming off the boards to get > them up off the floor > 3) Racking up Mermaid and Merassu to: > (a) Improve airflow around them > (b) Keep them with all the other servers where we have networking gear and > power > - this in theory should make them easier to put on the UPS should we > want to. > > Not power related, but some other things I've been pondering while in the > clubroom today: > - tidying up the cat5 spaghetti - can utilise the same hooks on the roof > - given that the MR is an enclosed space with a higher risk of fire due to > its contents, it should probably, in theory, have a A:B (E) fire > extinguisher. > > Anyway, as I said, ideas to discuss - ideally some of this could be carried > out before Wednesday when the RCD gets replaced (or at the same time if the > powers going to be off anyway) - I fly out to Sydney on Tuesday but can try > and action some of this stuff either today (Sunday) or Monday morning if > people are happy. > > Cheers, > Matt [MRD] From mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Oct 4 21:52:20 2009 From: mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:52:20 +0800 Subject: [tech] Power situation in Machine Room In-Reply-To: References: <20091004115051.25701xi7slwxwsyo@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20091004215220.12733d7ir6nsorcw@secure.ucc.asn.au> And i have a Serial port Fire alarm... Quoting "Bob Adamson" : > There is a fire extinguisher out in the Cameron Hall corridor. If > there is a fire in the machine room, I would imagine that you would > want the fire extinguisher where you can get to it (ie not IN the > machine room). Perhaps a smoke alarm would be of more use? The power > ideas seem good though. > > Bob [BOB] > > > On Sun, 4 Oct 2009, mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: > >> Well howdy ya'll, >> >> As most of you would be aware by now I imagine, the >> University/Guild conducted surprise RCD testing the other day (grrr). >> >> The outcome of this was that: >> a) an RCD does in fact need replacing; >> b) the electrician was of the opinion that we really did need to >> sort out the power situation in the MR - he was happy to turn a >> blind eye, but did strongly urge us to fix it to improve safety. >> >> So, to address (b), here are some ideas for discussion: >> >> 1) Power distribution strips in the racks to stop the power boards >> dangling around >> - doesn't even have to be proper ones, could be just some longer >> power boards cable tied into the rack >> 2) Hooks on the roof to carry extension leads coming off the boards >> to get them up off the floor >> 3) Racking up Mermaid and Merassu to: >> (a) Improve airflow around them >> (b) Keep them with all the other servers where we have networking >> gear and power >> - this in theory should make them easier to put on the UPS >> should we want to. >> >> Not power related, but some other things I've been pondering while >> in the clubroom today: >> - tidying up the cat5 spaghetti - can utilise the same hooks on the roof >> - given that the MR is an enclosed space with a higher risk of fire >> due to its contents, it should probably, in theory, have a A:B (E) >> fire extinguisher. >> >> Anyway, as I said, ideas to discuss - ideally some of this could be >> carried out before Wednesday when the RCD gets replaced (or at the >> same time if the powers going to be off anyway) - I fly out to >> Sydney on Tuesday but can try and action some of this stuff either >> today (Sunday) or Monday morning if people are happy. >> >> Cheers, >> Matt [MRD] > From mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Oct 4 21:56:20 2009 From: mattman at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Matt Didcoe) Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 21:56:20 +0800 Subject: [tech] Power situation in Machine Room In-Reply-To: <20091004215220.12733d7ir6nsorcw@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20091004115051.25701xi7slwxwsyo@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20091004215220.12733d7ir6nsorcw@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <385046E6-E17F-4DD4-880B-6A8378EA5A7D@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Mark (mtearle) has suggested this PDU as a good one to get - http://www.racktechnologies.com.au/default2.asp?id=1,45,115,187 From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Oct 8 19:46:10 2009 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 19:46:10 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] curdane infected Message-ID: Hi, curdane has some problem resolving microsoft.com, symantec.com and f-prot.com, which leads me to believe it's got a virus of some sort. F-Prot's definitions were never updated, so someone needs to reinstall Windows. I've rendered it unbootable until then, but the filesystem is still there and Mandriva works fine. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Oct 8 21:44:38 2009 From: mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:44:38 +0800 Subject: [tech] curdane infected In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091008214438.1827635gx13ac5hi@secure.ucc.asn.au> Was this Pc built by a Wheel member? Or a Uccan Quoting "James Andrewartha" : > Hi, > > curdane has some problem resolving microsoft.com, symantec.com and > f-prot.com, which leads me to believe it's got a virus of some sort. > F-Prot's definitions were never updated, so someone needs to reinstall > Windows. I've rendered it unbootable until then, but the filesystem is > still there and Mandriva works fine. > > -- > # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub > here will do \ > # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels > do best | > [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and > hide your | > [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid > Reflux #231 / > From frenchiephish at gmail.com Thu Oct 8 21:46:30 2009 From: frenchiephish at gmail.com (James French) Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 21:46:30 +0800 Subject: [tech] curdane infected In-Reply-To: <20091008214438.1827635gx13ac5hi@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20091008214438.1827635gx13ac5hi@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <2459359763601174992@unknownmsgid> Wheel members are uccans too ;) On 08/10/2009, at 9:45 PM, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: > Was this Pc built by a Wheel member? Or a Uccan > > Quoting "James Andrewartha" : > >> Hi, >> >> curdane has some problem resolving microsoft.com, symantec.com and >> f-prot.com, which leads me to believe it's got a virus of some sort. >> F-Prot's definitions were never updated, so someone needs to >> reinstall >> Windows. I've rendered it unbootable until then, but the filesystem >> is >> still there and Mandriva works fine. >> >> -- >> # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub >> here will do \ >> # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels >> do best | >> [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and >> hide your | >> [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid >> Reflux #231 / >> > > > > From thebmw at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Oct 9 09:41:43 2009 From: thebmw at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Brad Wake) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:41:43 +0800 Subject: [tech] curdane infected In-Reply-To: <2459359763601174992@unknownmsgid> References: <20091008214438.1827635gx13ac5hi@secure.ucc.asn.au> <2459359763601174992@unknownmsgid> Message-ID: <20091009014142.GA25474@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Next you'll be trying to tell us that they're people too! On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:46:30PM +0800, James French wrote: > Wheel members are uccans too ;) > > On 08/10/2009, at 9:45 PM, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: > > > Was this Pc built by a Wheel member? Or a Uccan > > > > Quoting "James Andrewartha" : > > > >> Hi, > >> > >> curdane has some problem resolving microsoft.com, symantec.com and > >> f-prot.com, which leads me to believe it's got a virus of some sort. > >> F-Prot's definitions were never updated, so someone needs to > >> reinstall > >> Windows. I've rendered it unbootable until then, but the filesystem > >> is > >> still there and Mandriva works fine. > >> > >> -- > >> # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub > >> here will do \ > >> # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels > >> do best | > >> [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and > >> hide your | > >> [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid > >> Reflux #231 / > >> > > > > > > > > From spartanhelmet at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Oct 9 10:16:21 2009 From: spartanhelmet at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Chris Squire) Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:16:21 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] curdane infected In-Reply-To: <20091009014142.GA25474@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <20091008214438.1827635gx13ac5hi@secure.ucc.asn.au> <2459359763601174992@unknownmsgid> <20091009014142.GA25474@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: Turing complete, perhaps. People? NO! I take it the W2k disc used last time is in the MR? I could do it today bar the fact I don't have my MR key along with me today. On Fri, 9 Oct 2009, Brad Wake wrote: > Next you'll be trying to tell us that they're people too! > > On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:46:30PM +0800, James French wrote: >> Wheel members are uccans too ;) >> >> On 08/10/2009, at 9:45 PM, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: >> >>> Was this Pc built by a Wheel member? Or a Uccan >>> >>> Quoting "James Andrewartha" : >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> curdane has some problem resolving microsoft.com, symantec.com and >>>> f-prot.com, which leads me to believe it's got a virus of some sort. >>>> F-Prot's definitions were never updated, so someone needs to >>>> reinstall >>>> Windows. I've rendered it unbootable until then, but the filesystem >>>> is >>>> still there and Mandriva works fine. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub >>>> here will do \ >>>> # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels >>>> do best | >>>> [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and >>>> hide your | >>>> [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid >>>> Reflux #231 / >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Oct 12 16:11:41 2009 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:11:41 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] curdane infected In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, James Andrewartha wrote: > curdane has some problem resolving microsoft.com, symantec.com and > f-prot.com, which leads me to believe it's got a virus of some sort. > F-Prot's definitions were never updated, so someone needs to reinstall > Windows. I've rendered it unbootable until then, but the filesystem is > still there and Mandriva works fine. For the record, I'm pretty sure it was infected with Conficker based on the files it put on my USB stick. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Oct 13 09:26:48 2009 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:26:48 +0800 Subject: [tech] curdane infected In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20091013092648.163240h4hmys9rgg@secure.ucc.asn.au> Windows has been reinstalled on Curdane after a reformat. Grub needs reinstalling, but otherwise it's back to its usual self (and this time the antivirus is up to date). Bob Quoting "James Andrewartha" : > Hi, > > curdane has some problem resolving microsoft.com, symantec.com and > f-prot.com, which leads me to believe it's got a virus of some sort. > F-Prot's definitions were never updated, so someone needs to reinstall > Windows. I've rendered it unbootable until then, but the filesystem is > still there and Mandriva works fine. > > -- > # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub > here will do \ > # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels > do best | > [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and > hide your | > [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid > Reflux #231 / > From danielax at gmail.com Tue Oct 13 09:51:12 2009 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel J. Axtens) Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:51:12 +0800 Subject: [tech] curdane infected In-Reply-To: <20091013092648.163240h4hmys9rgg@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <20091013092648.163240h4hmys9rgg@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <4b86c8870910121851u2073520atb3dbe99b609cee9d@mail.gmail.com> woot. Will reinstall grub later today. -- d 2009/10/13 : > Windows has been reinstalled on Curdane after a reformat. Grub needs > reinstalling, but otherwise it's back to its usual self (and this time the > antivirus is up to date). > > Bob > > > > Quoting "James Andrewartha" : > >> Hi, >> >> curdane has some problem resolving microsoft.com, symantec.com and >> f-prot.com, which leads me to believe it's got a virus of some sort. >> F-Prot's definitions were never updated, so someone needs to reinstall >> Windows. I've rendered it unbootable until then, but the filesystem is >> still there and Mandriva works fine. >> >> -- >> # TRS-80 ? ? ? ? ? ? ?trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here >> will do \ >> # UCC Wheel Member ? ? http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| ?what squirrels do best >> ? ? | >> [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ? ? ? ? ?]| ?-- Collect and hide >> your ? | >> [ ?software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ ?nuts." -- Acid Reflux >> #231 / >> > > > > > From dunc+wheel at dunc.org Thu Oct 15 20:36:12 2009 From: dunc+wheel at dunc.org (Duncan Sargeant) Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:36:12 +0800 Subject: [tech] Power situation in Machine Room In-Reply-To: <603140b60910040610n7e69727ck4b398210fadb3f57@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091004115051.25701xi7slwxwsyo@secure.ucc.asn.au> <603140b60910040610n7e69727ck4b398210fadb3f57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Hmm, got distracted and didn't send this email ... That looks way better than the Krone Highway stuff I keep ripping out ... Krone have learnt something it seems. I can probably backhand some Panduit velcro and possibly WMPFSE (1RU Horiz. CM) UCC's way with a little notice. How wide is the rack? I can imagine its just a 600mm rack but if there's any room either side of the rack mounts, vertical CM is the way to go, also a vertical PDU reduces your power cable runs. I would say longer domestic power strips are perfectly fine as long as you get them tested by an electrician and don't exceed the load rating. Do not run screws through the plastic to mount them like I have seen done at some mine sites #stupid. Get the ones with mounting holes or just cable tie them. There is a lot to say on cable management, you could write a book on the subject. Dry reading for most. I'll just say that the correct length cables make all the difference :-) ,dunc 2009/10/4 Patrick Coleman > On Sun, Oct 4, 2009 at 11:50 AM, wrote: > > - tidying up the cat5 spaghetti > > Second that. I've tried to do it in the past, but got foiled by lack > of proper cable management and my unwillingness to break everything. > If UCC picks up 2-3 good[1] cable managers and some velcro[2], I'm > happy to volunteer and clean it up. > > -Patrick > > [1] Good := Krone. > > http://www.adckrone.com.au/adc/catalogue/detail_x_pn.asp?strPartNumber=6450%201%20050-20 > is what we specify at work, and it's great stuff. Can get pricing from > our supplier if UCC can't steal them from somewhere. > [2] Velcro strips with holes: http://cableorganizer.com/wire-wrap/. > Again, can get pricing if people want. > > > -- > http://www.labyrinthdata.net.au - WA Backup, Web and VPS Hosting > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/pipermail/tech/attachments/20091015/5bc10b35/attachment.html From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Oct 18 17:00:09 2009 From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam) Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2009 17:00:09 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Door sensor software rewritten Message-ID: Instead of studying, I've rewritten all the door sensor software. The original software (after the blackbox broke) was written by [MTL], and has done the job really well, but it was difficult to adapt and extend - it was pretty tightly bound to providing notifications over XMPP, and also referred to the door as a coffee pot. The new software is in Python, and consists of a server process which monitors the hardware interface over LAT, and a number of clients which communicate with the server using D-BUS. Long-running clients can hook into D-BUS signals to get event-driven notifications. One client provides the XMPP interface, so you can still add 'uccdoor at ucc.asn.au' to your chat client to get the door status. Writing new clients is pretty straightforward and can be done in any language that has D-BUS bindings. There's no networking in D-BUS yet, so clients have to run on mussel. Source including examples for new clients is in source control: http://git.ucc.asn.au/?p=uccdoor.git There's a JSON interface to get the door status: http://door.ucc.asn.au/json.py (perhaps some Web2.0 type could update the webcam page?) and what really drove this project was restoring `finger door at ucc.asn.au`: http://ucc.asn.au/cgi-bin/finger?door http://www.emailman.com/finger/finger.cgi?user=door&host=ucc.asn.au Patches welcomed for the existing code and for new clients that interact with IRC, twitter, or RRDtool/collectd. David Adam UCC Wheel Member zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au From mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Oct 22 21:29:43 2009 From: mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:29:43 +0800 Subject: [tech] VmWare/XEN/Virtualbox Cluster Message-ID: <20091022212943.10145frj4x3w0mm8@secure.ucc.asn.au> Hey All, Im planning to make a 3-4 Server cluster from the Delta PC's Or make a BW Cluster. Eventually to replace some of the physical machines in the MR. Im making 1x box with 8Gb Ram and 2 with 4Gb Ram over the next few weeks from parts. If anyone has plans for some of them let me know. And if anyone wants to help, let me know. Mitch From frenchie at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Oct 23 15:58:39 2009 From: frenchie at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James French) Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:58:39 +0800 Subject: [tech] Manduba Update Message-ID: <560b010910230058q1bd368ebhc68809ea812090cd@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, Trs80 and I spent a bit of time looking at Manduba's current woes. At present it is throwing SCSI errors which may exlain why it has been kernel panicing. Given the cables themselves haven't been removed I'm inclined to think that either the controller or the disk tray are on their way out. We have spares of the latter. For now I'm logging the output of the serial console for more info at the next crash. On Monday I plan to reseat the cables and/or lug over a replacement tray. Any further investigation today was cut short due to some unfortunate news. Frenchie From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Oct 24 21:22:38 2009 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:22:38 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Crimping tool and crimps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >From what I can deduce, http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2675 are better quality connectors, and come in a better box :P . From having a look at the close-up pics of the crimping tool at http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3530 I'm all for buying it, as it appears to be the same/better quality than what we could buy for $35 in Australia. Bob On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, James Andrewartha wrote: > On Fri, 23 Oct 2009, James Cox wrote: > >> Also, I did get a crimper from DX for far less than $35 and it's >> actually pretty great, definitely better than the plastic model that >> UCC used to own and probably the same OEM model as you'd get a cheap >> crimper in Australia anyway. > > I'm doing an order from DealExtreme at the moment, what SKU was it? For > the ends, http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2689 looks decent. > >> On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Rufus Garton Smith >> wrote: >>> General Business >>> ---------------- >>> - [BOB] : Can we please buy an RJ45 crimping tool. Estimated cost $35. [BOB] >>> ?- [LOL] seconds, unanimous. >>> >>> - [FEL] : Can we please buy 100 RJ45 ends too for the crimping tool, >>> Estimated Cost $30. >>> ?- [DJA] seconds, unanimous. > > > -- > # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ > # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | > [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | > [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From andrew at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sat Oct 24 21:52:45 2009 From: andrew at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Williams) Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 21:52:45 +0800 Subject: [tech] Crimping tool and crimps In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4AE306AD.8070902@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Bob Adamson wrote: >> From what I can deduce, http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2675 >> are > better quality connectors, and come in a better box :P . From having a > look at the close-up pics of the crimping tool at > http://dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3530 I'm all for buying it, as it > appears to be the same/better quality than what we could buy for $35 in > Australia. Note that RJ45 connectors for solid core cat5 are subtly different from the ones for stranded core cat5. The solid core cable is usually used for fixed in-building wiring, stranded core for patch cables. If you use the wrong connector, they often don't latch into the sockets very well... Andrew From bob at ucc.asn.au Tue Oct 27 17:58:55 2009 From: bob at ucc.asn.au (Bob) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:58:55 +0900 Subject: [tech] 8P8C/RJ45 Crimper Message-ID: <4AE6C45F.8080009@ucc.asn.au> Hi all, The club now has a new crimping tool to replace the one that got stolen with the tool boxes. It does both 8 pin and 6 pin connectors. It has been engraved and is now in the tool cupboard. We still need some connectors though... Bob From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Oct 27 18:04:33 2009 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:04:33 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] 8P8C/RJ45 Crimper In-Reply-To: <4AE6C45F.8080009@ucc.asn.au> References: <4AE6C45F.8080009@ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Bob wrote: > The club now has a new crimping tool to replace the one that got stolen with > the tool boxes. It does both 8 pin and 6 pin connectors. It has been engraved > and is now in the tool cupboard. We still need some connectors though... Well, I already ordered http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3530 and http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2675 from DealExtreme. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Oct 27 18:11:51 2009 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:11:51 +0900 Subject: [tech] 8P8C/RJ45 Crimper In-Reply-To: References: <4AE6C45F.8080009@ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <4AE6C767.7010803@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Well, now the club has two, and we're still $20 ahead of the price quoted to committee. If committee has a problem with this, I'll pay James for the dealextreme one and keep it. Bob James Andrewartha wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Bob wrote: > > >> The club now has a new crimping tool to replace the one that got stolen with >> the tool boxes. It does both 8 pin and 6 pin connectors. It has been engraved >> and is now in the tool cupboard. We still need some connectors though... >> > > Well, I already ordered http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3530 and > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2675 from DealExtreme. > > From matt at ucc.asn.au Tue Oct 27 18:17:28 2009 From: matt at ucc.asn.au (Matt Johnston) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:17:28 +0800 Subject: [tech] 8P8C/RJ45 Crimper In-Reply-To: References: <4AE6C45F.8080009@ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20091027101728.GX9406@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Been meaning to get a crimper, I'll buy it off you :) Matt On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 06:04:33PM +0800, James Andrewartha wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Bob wrote: > > > The club now has a new crimping tool to replace the one that got stolen with > > the tool boxes. It does both 8 pin and 6 pin connectors. It has been engraved > > and is now in the tool cupboard. We still need some connectors though... > > Well, I already ordered http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3530 and > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2675 from DealExtreme. > > -- > # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ > # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | > [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | > [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Oct 27 18:35:01 2009 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:35:01 +0900 Subject: [tech] projects bench computer Message-ID: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> In other news... I have resurrected a machine out of old parts from cobbler and ?velvet? for the projects bench. It's an Athlon XP with 1GB RAM, and only a 40GB hard drive - enough to do the job. It will have Debian and Windows installed on it (mainly to support progs like AVR studio which only have windows support). Given its origins, it is being called coblet. I intend this machine to be used for projects only, and will not have any games installed. I'm probably not going to UCC domain either, seeing as this will facilitate non-project use. I'm going to load it up with a couple of progs like eagle cad, and AVR studio - if anyone can recommend some other good free software that would be great. It will also have a number of resources on it such as electronics and design ebooks, links to good suppliers, etc. More importantly, it has a couple of serial connectors, and plenty of usb ports. Also, if anyone has other handy hardware for projects, speak up (no ISA slots on the motherboard for anyone who's thinking about that). I will post on the list once coblet is completed, and secured. Bob From harrymc at decisions-and-designs.com.au Tue Oct 27 19:15:56 2009 From: harrymc at decisions-and-designs.com.au (Harry McNally) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:15:56 +0800 Subject: [tech] projects bench computer In-Reply-To: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <4AE6D66C.5070900@decisions-and-designs.com.au> Bob wrote: > In other news... > > Given its origins, it is being called coblet. Great to hear. <...> > I'm going to load it up with a couple of progs like eagle cad, and AVR > studio - if anyone can recommend some other good free software that > would be great. I have some windows tools for Cygnal parts that need a little serial JTAG device for debugging. I can bring a devel board for playing and the JTAG dongle but can't leave the dongle. If anyone wanted to use Cygnal parts I could see if there is a USB JTAG device from Cygnal (proprietary protocol unfortunately). Harry From mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Oct 28 16:29:15 2009 From: mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:29:15 +0800 Subject: [tech] projects bench computer In-Reply-To: <4AE6D66C.5070900@decisions-and-designs.com.au> References: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <4AE6D66C.5070900@decisions-and-designs.com.au> Message-ID: <20091028162915.20051w0ypoykwrts@secure.ucc.asn.au> I have a Glass Screen protector for this, I will bring it into UCC 2mrw or friday Quoting "Harry McNally" : > Bob wrote: >> In other news... >> >> Given its origins, it is being called coblet. > > Great to hear. > > <...> >> I'm going to load it up with a couple of progs like eagle cad, and AVR >> studio - if anyone can recommend some other good free software that >> would be great. > > I have some windows tools for Cygnal parts that need a little serial JTAG > device for debugging. I can bring a devel board for playing and the JTAG > dongle but can't leave the dongle. If anyone wanted to use Cygnal parts I > could see if there is a USB JTAG device from Cygnal (proprietary protocol > unfortunately). > > Harry > > > > From adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Oct 28 18:07:46 2009 From: adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Adrian Chadd) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 18:07:46 +0800 Subject: [tech] projects bench computer In-Reply-To: <20091028162915.20051w0ypoykwrts@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <4AE6D66C.5070900@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <20091028162915.20051w0ypoykwrts@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20091028100746.GA26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: > I have a Glass Screen protector for this, I will bring it into UCC 2mrw > or friday Does this thingy have a parallel port? I can bring around a hacky ISP cable so we can do some basic old-school AVR programming. adrian > > Quoting "Harry McNally" : > >> Bob wrote: >>> In other news... >>> >>> Given its origins, it is being called coblet. >> >> Great to hear. >> >> <...> >>> I'm going to load it up with a couple of progs like eagle cad, and AVR >>> studio - if anyone can recommend some other good free software that >>> would be great. >> >> I have some windows tools for Cygnal parts that need a little serial JTAG >> device for debugging. I can bring a devel board for playing and the JTAG >> dongle but can't leave the dongle. If anyone wanted to use Cygnal parts I >> could see if there is a USB JTAG device from Cygnal (proprietary protocol >> unfortunately). >> >> Harry >> >> >> >> > > From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Wed Oct 28 22:20:37 2009 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Bob Adamson) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:20:37 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] projects bench computer In-Reply-To: <20091028100746.GA26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <4AE6D66C.5070900@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <20091028162915.20051w0ypoykwrts@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20091028100746.GA26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: I think it has a header on the motherboard, but I'm not sure. Besides, can't we use serial for that anyway? On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: >> I have a Glass Screen protector for this, I will bring it into UCC 2mrw >> or friday > > Does this thingy have a parallel port? > > I can bring around a hacky ISP cable so we can do some basic old-school > AVR programming. > > > > > adrian > >> >> Quoting "Harry McNally" : >> >>> Bob wrote: >>>> In other news... >>>> >>>> Given its origins, it is being called coblet. >>> >>> Great to hear. >>> >>> <...> >>>> I'm going to load it up with a couple of progs like eagle cad, and AVR >>>> studio - if anyone can recommend some other good free software that >>>> would be great. >>> >>> I have some windows tools for Cygnal parts that need a little serial JTAG >>> device for debugging. I can bring a devel board for playing and the JTAG >>> dongle but can't leave the dongle. If anyone wanted to use Cygnal parts I >>> could see if there is a USB JTAG device from Cygnal (proprietary protocol >>> unfortunately). >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > From mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Oct 29 09:03:46 2009 From: mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:03:46 +0800 Subject: [tech] projects bench computer In-Reply-To: <20091028100746.GA26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <4AE6D66C.5070900@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <20091028162915.20051w0ypoykwrts@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20091028100746.GA26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20091029090346.25904lgj3t0j7ocg@secure.ucc.asn.au> I can bring in an ARV ISP Kit that will take 4 to 48 pin AVR's Quoting "Adrian Chadd" : > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: >> I have a Glass Screen protector for this, I will bring it into UCC 2mrw >> or friday > > Does this thingy have a parallel port? > > I can bring around a hacky ISP cable so we can do some basic old-school > AVR programming. > > > > > adrian > >> >> Quoting "Harry McNally" : >> >>> Bob wrote: >>>> In other news... >>>> >>>> Given its origins, it is being called coblet. >>> >>> Great to hear. >>> >>> <...> >>>> I'm going to load it up with a couple of progs like eagle cad, and AVR >>>> studio - if anyone can recommend some other good free software that >>>> would be great. >>> >>> I have some windows tools for Cygnal parts that need a little serial JTAG >>> device for debugging. I can bring a devel board for playing and the JTAG >>> dongle but can't leave the dongle. If anyone wanted to use Cygnal parts I >>> could see if there is a USB JTAG device from Cygnal (proprietary protocol >>> unfortunately). >>> >>> Harry >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > From adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Oct 29 09:42:13 2009 From: adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Adrian Chadd) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:42:13 +0800 Subject: [tech] projects bench computer In-Reply-To: <20091029090346.25904lgj3t0j7ocg@secure.ucc.asn.au> References: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <4AE6D66C.5070900@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <20091028162915.20051w0ypoykwrts@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20091028100746.GA26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20091029090346.25904lgj3t0j7ocg@secure.ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <20091029014213.GB26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: > I can bring in an ARV ISP Kit that will take 4 to 48 pin AVR's Sure. Will make life more fun. Adrian > > Quoting "Adrian Chadd" : > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: >>> I have a Glass Screen protector for this, I will bring it into UCC 2mrw >>> or friday >> >> Does this thingy have a parallel port? >> >> I can bring around a hacky ISP cable so we can do some basic old-school >> AVR programming. >> >> >> >> >> adrian >> >>> >>> Quoting "Harry McNally" : >>> >>>> Bob wrote: >>>>> In other news... >>>>> >>>>> Given its origins, it is being called coblet. >>>> >>>> Great to hear. >>>> >>>> <...> >>>>> I'm going to load it up with a couple of progs like eagle cad, and AVR >>>>> studio - if anyone can recommend some other good free software that >>>>> would be great. >>>> >>>> I have some windows tools for Cygnal parts that need a little serial JTAG >>>> device for debugging. I can bring a devel board for playing and the JTAG >>>> dongle but can't leave the dongle. If anyone wanted to use Cygnal parts I >>>> could see if there is a USB JTAG device from Cygnal (proprietary protocol >>>> unfortunately). >>>> >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > From adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Oct 29 09:43:15 2009 From: adrian at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Adrian Chadd) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:43:15 +0800 Subject: [tech] projects bench computer In-Reply-To: References: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <4AE6D66C.5070900@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <20091028162915.20051w0ypoykwrts@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20091028100746.GA26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20091029014314.GC26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, Bob Adamson wrote: > I think it has a header on the motherboard, but I'm not sure. Besides, > can't we use serial for that anyway? Only for later version AVRs that have the serial port programming bootloader. I have lots of little AVRs that require the ISP; they don't have a UART. Adrian > > On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: >>> I have a Glass Screen protector for this, I will bring it into UCC 2mrw >>> or friday >> >> Does this thingy have a parallel port? >> >> I can bring around a hacky ISP cable so we can do some basic old-school >> AVR programming. >> >> >> >> >> adrian >> >>> >>> Quoting "Harry McNally" : >>> >>>> Bob wrote: >>>>> In other news... >>>>> >>>>> Given its origins, it is being called coblet. >>>> >>>> Great to hear. >>>> >>>> <...> >>>>> I'm going to load it up with a couple of progs like eagle cad, and AVR >>>>> studio - if anyone can recommend some other good free software that >>>>> would be great. >>>> >>>> I have some windows tools for Cygnal parts that need a little serial JTAG >>>> device for debugging. I can bring a devel board for playing and the JTAG >>>> dongle but can't leave the dongle. If anyone wanted to use Cygnal parts I >>>> could see if there is a USB JTAG device from Cygnal (proprietary protocol >>>> unfortunately). >>>> >>>> Harry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> From mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Oct 29 09:47:48 2009 From: mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au) Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 09:47:48 +0800 Subject: [tech] projects bench computer In-Reply-To: <20091029014314.GC26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> References: <4AE6CCD5.1030807@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <4AE6D66C.5070900@decisions-and-designs.com.au> <20091028162915.20051w0ypoykwrts@secure.ucc.asn.au> <20091028100746.GA26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20091029014314.GC26713@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20091029094748.172248oy7610037k@secure.ucc.asn.au> My one is a a ParPort one. Quoting "Adrian Chadd" : > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, Bob Adamson wrote: >> I think it has a header on the motherboard, but I'm not sure. Besides, >> can't we use serial for that anyway? > > Only for later version AVRs that have the serial port programming bootloader. > > I have lots of little AVRs that require the ISP; they don't have a UART. > > > > Adrian > >> >> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009, mitch at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au wrote: >>>> I have a Glass Screen protector for this, I will bring it into UCC 2mrw >>>> or friday >>> >>> Does this thingy have a parallel port? >>> >>> I can bring around a hacky ISP cable so we can do some basic old-school >>> AVR programming. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> adrian >>> >>>> >>>> Quoting "Harry McNally" : >>>> >>>>> Bob wrote: >>>>>> In other news... >>>>>> >>>>>> Given its origins, it is being called coblet. >>>>> >>>>> Great to hear. >>>>> >>>>> <...> >>>>>> I'm going to load it up with a couple of progs like eagle cad, and AVR >>>>>> studio - if anyone can recommend some other good free software that >>>>>> would be great. >>>>> >>>>> I have some windows tools for Cygnal parts that need a little serial JTAG >>>>> device for debugging. I can bring a devel board for playing and the JTAG >>>>> dongle but can't leave the dongle. If anyone wanted to use Cygnal parts I >>>>> could see if there is a USB JTAG device from Cygnal (proprietary protocol >>>>> unfortunately). >>>>> >>>>> Harry >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> > From danielax at gmail.com Fri Oct 30 20:40:14 2009 From: danielax at gmail.com (Daniel J. Axtens) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:40:14 +0800 Subject: [tech] Haiku on chaenopsis Message-ID: <4b86c8870910300540j5428d8d1yc7a0867d1f200474@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I have set up Haiku on two USB thumbdrives. Haiku is a rather neat alternative OS in the style of BeOS. While technically only an alpha, it's generally stable and well polished, and I encourage you to try it out. Currently, chaenopsis - the thinterm in the corner near the filing cabniet - boots from these thumbdrives. Trying it out is as simple as: - choosing whether you want the alpha (stable-ish) or SVN (less stable) version. The alpha is on a black 1GB thumbdrive, and the SVN version is on a white and yellow 4GB thumbdrive. - plugging the chosen thumbdrive into chaenopsis, and booting. Once booted, applications are accessible from the main menu, which is the feather icon in the top left. If you're looking for: - A web browser: try "BeZilla Browser" in the Applications menu (it takes a while to load, be patient). Gmail and Facebook work. - A terminal: "Terminal" in the Applications menu. SSH, gcc, git, svn and some other useful utilities are pre-installed. (note that you need to ssh to martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au, not just martello) Lots of other applications and cool demos are installed. If either of the thumbdrives refuse to boot, I can reimage them. I'm working on a way for anyone to be able to do this - stay tuned after exams. Currently, it requires root privileges to dd onto a thumbdrive, and the images are stored in my insecure home directory, so that will need fixed. I'd welcome any feedback. Enjoy, Daniel Axtens [DJA] From zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Oct 30 21:20:14 2009 From: zanchey at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (David Adam) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:20:14 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Haiku on chaenopsis In-Reply-To: <4b86c8870910300540j5428d8d1yc7a0867d1f200474@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b86c8870910300540j5428d8d1yc7a0867d1f200474@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Oct 2009, Daniel J. Axtens wrote: > I have set up Haiku on two USB thumbdrives. Haiku is a rather neat > alternative OS in the style of BeOS. While technically only an alpha, > it's generally stable and well polished, and I encourage you to try it > out. > > Currently, chaenopsis - the thinterm in the corner near the filing > cabniet - boots from these thumbdrives. Trying it out is as simple as: > - choosing whether you want the alpha (stable-ish) or SVN (less > stable) version. The alpha is on a black 1GB thumbdrive, and the SVN > version is on a white and yellow 4GB thumbdrive. > - plugging the chosen thumbdrive into chaenopsis, and booting. Awesome. > Once booted, applications are accessible from the main menu, which is > the feather icon in the top left. If you're looking for: > - A web browser: try "BeZilla Browser" in the Applications menu (it > takes a while to load, be patient). Gmail and Facebook work. > - A terminal: "Terminal" in the Applications menu. SSH, gcc, git, svn > and some other useful utilities are pre-installed. (note that you need > to ssh to martello.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au, not just martello) I added ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au as a search domain in resolv.conf, so you should be able to use just martello now :-) [DAA] From jacques at chester.id.au Fri Oct 30 21:29:20 2009 From: jacques at chester.id.au (Jacques Chester) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 21:29:20 +0800 Subject: [tech] Haiku on chaenopsis In-Reply-To: <4b86c8870910300540j5428d8d1yc7a0867d1f200474@mail.gmail.com> References: <4b86c8870910300540j5428d8d1yc7a0867d1f200474@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <18498C05-3496-4F27-AA0B-27873B42CB02@chester.id.au> On 30/10/2009, at 8:40 PM, Daniel J. Axtens wrote: > Hi all, > > I have set up Haiku on two USB thumbdrives. Haiku is a rather neat > alternative OS in the style of BeOS. While technically only an alpha, > it's generally stable and well polished, and I encourage you to try it > out. Oh man. BeOS. That takes me back to happy days. Cheers, JC.