From gozzarda at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Thu Nov 7 19:12:24 2013 From: gozzarda at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Gozzard) Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 19:12:24 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Potential club LCD TV purchase Message-ID: Hi all, It has been suggested in the past that it may be worth the club purchasing a largish LCD television, given how cheap they are becoming. Such a screen would probably serve much the same purpose as our current digital projector, but is inarguably better than a projector in almost every way (image size and viewing angle being the notable exceptions, with the latter being hardly and issue anymore). Office Works currently has an Akai 40 inch full HD television on sale for $300. I bring this to the lists looking for alternatives or reasons to reconsider or forego this idea. As a minor secondary note, a relative of mine has offered me a number of LCD monitors he has recently received. They are ex-enterprise and reportedly in good nick. From what he was saying I believe at least one of them to be 24 inch, thought I do not know about the rest. I have already accepted the offer, as we can keep any we want and donate/dump the rest. Regards, Gozz From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Nov 8 03:06:54 2013 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 03:06:54 +0800 Subject: [tech] motsugo outage, Octopus/KVM switch problem? Message-ID: <20131107190654.GA7089@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Looks like motsugo started OOM'ing around here: Nov 7 23:54:21 motsugo kernel: [6582357.551310] oom_kill_process: 2 callbacks suppressed Nov 7 23:54:21 motsugo kernel: [6582357.551314] ssh invoked oom-killer: gfp_mask=0x201da, order=0, oom_adj=0, oom_score_adj=0 Nov 7 23:54:21 motsugo kernel: [6582357.551318] ssh cpuset=/ mems_allowed=0-1 Nov 7 23:54:21 motsugo kernel: [6582357.551322] Pid: 4427, comm: ssh Not tainted 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 Debian 3.2.46-1 I couldn't initially get a remote console from the Supermicro Baseboard Management Controller/BMC, motsugo.mgmt.ucc.asn.au/192.168.2.18 , so I reset the machine. Didn't start pinging, so... The Java Redirection Viewer console doesn't tunnel so easily, try forwarding these ports and browse to https://127.0.0.2 ssh user at murasoi.ucc.asn.au -L127.0.0.2:443:192.168.2.18:443 -L127.0.0.2:5900:192.168.2.18:5900 -L127.0.0.2:5901:192.168.2.18:5901 -L127.0.0.2:5120:192.168.2.18:5120 -L127.0.0.2:5123:192.168.2.18:5123 -C (thanks http://serverfault.com/questions/327255/using-supermicro-ipmi-behind-a-proxy http://christian.hofstaedtler.name/blog/2010/05/lessons-learned-with-supermicros-remote-managementipmi-view.html ) Got the console, pressed F1 to continue (!), booted, then rebooted to fix the BIOS config. I guess the trigger was a problem with Octopus, the KVM - [SZM] thinks it might have a dead master port? Someone keen to test it? Happily, we're still exceeding our SLA. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick-sig at rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Nov 8 03:45:36 2013 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 03:45:36 +0800 Subject: [tech] Potential club LCD TV purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20131107194536.GA5684@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Thu, Nov 07, 2013 at 07:12:24PM +0800, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > It has been suggested in the past that it may be worth the club purchasing > a largish LCD television, given how cheap they are becoming. Such a screen > would probably serve much the same purpose as our current digital > projector, but is inarguably better than a projector in almost every way > (image size and viewing angle being the notable exceptions, with the > latter being hardly and issue anymore). [...] Sounds OK. Nice to keep the projector set up and adjusted correctly (last time I remember it being used the picture was overlapping the shelvetops) > Office Works currently has an Akai 40 inch full HD television on sale for > $300. I bring this to the lists looking for alternatives or reasons to > reconsider or forego this idea. I guess we can take it for granted that it has a PC mode, "1:1", "Just Scan", "Full Pixel", "Unscaled", or "Screen Fit", etc. If anyone comes across or wants to get rid of a cheap 37" (or maybe 32" with a fat bezel?), I'd like to put it on the Coke machine. The fluoro has been dead for a while, the whole logo panel could be animated. (we're keeping the panel of course, as [GOZ] mentions, it's part of the hypothetical Coke Machine resale value). The panel is 832*527=985diag mm/38.77" max. 803*494=941diag mm on the interior of the aluminium bezel. > As a minor secondary note, a relative of mine has offered me a number of > LCD monitors he has recently received. They are ex-enterprise and > reportedly in good nick. From what he was saying I believe at least one of > them to be 24 inch, thought I do not know about the rest. I have already > accepted the offer, as we can keep any we want and donate/dump the rest. Handy, no doubt an upgrade for some. (e.g. me) Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick-sig at rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Fri Nov 8 12:08:59 2013 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2013 12:08:59 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Potential club LCD TV purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > Office Works currently has an Akai 40 inch full HD television on sale for > $300. I bring this to the lists looking for alternatives or reasons to > reconsider or forego this idea. Shall we get four and set up a 2x2 matrix? -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Nov 10 17:57:33 2013 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Adamson) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 17:57:33 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Potential club LCD TV purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I realise I'm a little late to this conversation, however I have a couple of questions: 1. What problem are you trying to solve by replacing the projector with a TV? 2. Where do you want to put the TV in the clubroom? 3. What use cases are you targeting (and will a TV be able to fully replace the role of the projector)? Andrew Adamson bob at ucc.asn.au |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | | ---Peter's Laws | On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > Hi all, > > It has been suggested in the past that it may be worth the club purchasing > a largish LCD television, given how cheap they are becoming. Such a screen > would probably serve much the same purpose as our current digital > projector, but is inarguably better than a projector in almost every way > (image size and viewing angle being the notable exceptions, with the > latter being hardly and issue anymore). > > Office Works currently has an Akai 40 inch full HD television on sale for > $300. I bring this to the lists looking for alternatives or reasons to > reconsider or forego this idea. > > As a minor secondary note, a relative of mine has offered me a number of > LCD monitors he has recently received. They are ex-enterprise and > reportedly in good nick. From what he was saying I believe at least one of > them to be 24 inch, thought I do not know about the rest. I have already > accepted the offer, as we can keep any we want and donate/dump the rest. > > Regards, > Gozz > Unsubscribe here: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/options/tech/bob%40ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > From nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Nov 10 18:27:09 2013 From: nick at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Nick Bannon) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 18:27:09 +0800 Subject: [tech] Manbo, manduba, starfish moving In-Reply-To: <20131016185213.GN30405@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> <20130314182414.GY19185@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: <20131110102709.GH5684@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 02:24:14AM +0800, Nick Bannon wrote: > [...] I would like to decommission/donate manbo (the > Sun E6000 under the Loft stairs) and manduba (the Sun E4000 containing > the most useful bits of manbo, on the Loft bench) - taking one or both, > and some accessories to the ACMS(WA) [...] http://wiki.ucc.asn.au/Manbo http://www.ucc.asn.au/machines/manbo.ucc http://www.ucc.asn.au/machines/manduba.ucc http://www.aceware.com.au/acms/ Done! Thanks Andrew Seeley, John Newman, Laurie Anderson, Lex Cunningham and Tony Epton. Manbo's been mostly reassembled as it was, but I'd like to check the placement of each board and try booting it, make sure it's survived the trip. There's a missing D1000 HDD array - it wasn't left in Arts, was it? Starfish and two of its vector processing boards (anything else to find?) are ready for pickup. TODO: We were already planning on adding a few things to the website: * CorporatePolicy.doc , CorporateStructure.doc * a PDP-6 blurb * "WA Computing History - Graphics" * MembershipApplicationForm.pdf , Memberapplication.doc / MemberapplicationSide2.doc * fix the "Contact Us" email (currently the old aceware at iinet.net.au ) * add a Mailing List link to: http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/acmswa/ ***** a copy of the UCC pages on manbo & manduba Tony or Linda was going to do some of that, we might finish it off at Tony's place in a fortnight or so and get a network working down to the barn. * Next meeting and Busy Bee scheduled for 19th January 2014 from 08:00 to 10:00, at the Mundaring Barn We might try to do some priority cataloguing of the loose items on top of the major equipment. Nick. -- Nick Bannon | "I made this letter longer than usual because nick-sig at rcpt.to | I lack the time to make it shorter." - Pascal From gozzarda at ucc.asn.au Sun Nov 10 18:49:59 2013 From: gozzarda at ucc.asn.au (Andrew Gozzard) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 18:49:59 +0800 Subject: [tech] Potential club LCD TV purchase Message-ID: The idea was not initially mine, though I think it a good one. The idea is more that when we next replace the projector, we should strongly consider getting a monitor instead. I raised it when I did simply to maybe make use of the good deal on that 40 inch screen. Current thinking is that we should put more time and thought into the purchase and be willing to spend more to get something bigger and better when the time comes. The idea is indeed to replace the projector (for use in the clubroom at least, can't beat the projector for large screen portability). The screen would likely go on top of the shelving where the projector is currently aimed. Open to suggestions for other screens we could get. Alternatively a decent projector. Gozz Andrew Adamson wrote: >I realise I'm a little late to this conversation, however I have a couple >of questions: >1. What problem are you trying to solve by replacing the projector with a TV? >2. Where do you want to put the TV in the clubroom? >3. What use cases are you targeting (and will a TV be able to fully >replace the role of the projector)? > >Andrew Adamson >bob at ucc.asn.au > >|"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them."??????????????? | >| ---Peter's Laws??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? | > >On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> It has been suggested in the past that it may be worth the club purchasing >> a largish LCD television, given how cheap they are becoming. Such a screen >> would probably serve much the same purpose as our current digital >> projector, but is inarguably better than a projector in almost every way >> (image size and viewing angle being the notable exceptions, with the >> latter being hardly and issue anymore). >> >> Office Works currently has an Akai 40 inch full HD television on sale for >> $300. I bring this to the lists looking for alternatives or reasons to >> reconsider or forego this idea. >> >> As a minor secondary note, a relative of mine has offered me a number of >> LCD monitors he has recently received. They are ex-enterprise and >> reportedly in good nick. From what he was saying I believe at least one of >> them to be 24 inch, thought I do not know about the rest. I have already >> accepted the offer, as we can keep any we want and donate/dump the rest. >> >> Regards, >> Gozz >> Unsubscribe here: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/options/tech/bob%40ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Sun Nov 10 20:42:38 2013 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Adamson) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 20:42:38 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Potential club LCD TV purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I agree that TV's are in general better than projectors - dollar for dollar they have better image reproduction in terms of resolution and lifetime. However, I think a projector is better for UCC for the following reasons: - The projector is easier and more practical at events such as lans, tech talks, the camp, and other events outside the clubroom. We need a projector for these events even if we have a TV in the clubroom. - The projector is occasionally borrowed by members who wouldn't otherwise have access to one - The projector screen is of a size that allows it to be seen easily from most points in the clubroom as well as from the loft Now I realise that our current setup isn't ideal - it's difficult to turn the projector on and off without climbing up on the bench, the resolution isn't great, and we don't have a screen that can be watched without developing a crick in your neck. The first two problems can be solved by buying a better projector, and the third can be solved by buying a projector screen that is mounted on offset brackets and drops down in front of the shelves. The "looking nearly straight up to see the screen" problem won't be solved by putting a TV up there. I would say that we want a better mount for the projector as well because the current one is nigh impossible to adjust. We can buy that with a new projector or I can whip something up through work. In terms of looking at projectors, in the past I've found that Harris Technology has one of the better ranges with decent prices. See http://www.ht.com.au/N/Displays-Projectors/list.hts for more on that. It may also be worth looking at a rental option as that reduces the upfront cost and means we can get cover for accidental breakage (a big plus if members will be borrowing it). Andrew Adamson bob at ucc.asn.au |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | | ---Peter's Laws | On Sun, 10 Nov 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > The idea was not initially mine, though I think it a good one. The idea is more that when we next replace the projector, we should strongly consider getting a monitor instead. I raised it when I did simply to maybe make use of the good deal on that 40 inch screen. > > Current thinking is that we should put more time and thought into the purchase and be willing to spend more to get something bigger and better when the time comes. > > The idea is indeed to replace the projector (for use in the clubroom at least, can't beat the projector for large screen portability). The screen would likely go on top of the shelving where the projector is currently aimed. > > Open to suggestions for other screens we could get. Alternatively a decent projector. > > Gozz > > Andrew Adamson wrote: > > >I realise I'm a little late to this conversation, however I have a couple > >of questions: > >1. What problem are you trying to solve by replacing the projector with a TV? > >2. Where do you want to put the TV in the clubroom? > >3. What use cases are you targeting (and will a TV be able to fully > >replace the role of the projector)? > > > >Andrew Adamson > >bob at ucc.asn.au > > > >|"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them."??????????????? | > >| ---Peter's Laws??????????????????????????????????????????????????????? | > > > >On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > >> It has been suggested in the past that it may be worth the club purchasing > >> a largish LCD television, given how cheap they are becoming. Such a screen > >> would probably serve much the same purpose as our current digital > >> projector, but is inarguably better than a projector in almost every way > >> (image size and viewing angle being the notable exceptions, with the > >> latter being hardly and issue anymore). > >> > >> Office Works currently has an Akai 40 inch full HD television on sale for > >> $300. I bring this to the lists looking for alternatives or reasons to > >> reconsider or forego this idea. > >> > >> As a minor secondary note, a relative of mine has offered me a number of > >> LCD monitors he has recently received. They are ex-enterprise and > >> reportedly in good nick. From what he was saying I believe at least one of > >> them to be 24 inch, thought I do not know about the rest. I have already > >> accepted the offer, as we can keep any we want and donate/dump the rest. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Gozz > >> Unsubscribe here: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/options/tech/bob%40ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > >> > Unsubscribe here: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/options/tech/bob%40ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au From trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Nov 11 08:49:29 2013 From: trs80 at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (James Andrewartha) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 08:49:29 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Potential club LCD TV purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, 10 Nov 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > Current thinking is that we should put more time and thought into the > purchase and be willing to spend more to get something bigger and better > when the time comes. For reference, I know of a floor demo 80" TV that went for $6500, although mounting it (particularly on the clubroom's walls) would be challenging. For half that price you could get a pretty good HD projector. -- # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Nov 11 18:06:04 2013 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:06:04 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Potential club LCD TV purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I also think we should look into a better projector instead. We did just get a projector screen. Yes you can't mount it on the wall (at least easily...) but it's much more portable. [SZM] On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, James Andrewartha wrote: > On Sun, 10 Nov 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: > >> Current thinking is that we should put more time and thought into the >> purchase and be willing to spend more to get something bigger and better >> when the time comes. > > For reference, I know of a floor demo 80" TV that went for $6500, although > mounting it (particularly on the clubroom's walls) would be challenging. > For half that price you could get a pretty good HD projector. > > -- > # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ > # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | > [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | > [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / > Unsubscribe here: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/options/tech/matches%40ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Nov 11 18:06:54 2013 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:06:54 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Potential club LCD TV purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Apologies, that argument has already been raised, I should read more carefully. On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, Sam Moore wrote: > I also think we should look into a better projector instead. We did just > get a projector screen. Yes you can't mount it on the wall (at least > easily...) but it's much more portable. > > [SZM] > > On Mon, 11 Nov 2013, James Andrewartha wrote: > >> On Sun, 10 Nov 2013, Andrew Gozzard wrote: >> >>> Current thinking is that we should put more time and thought into the >>> purchase and be willing to spend more to get something bigger and better >>> when the time comes. >> >> For reference, I know of a floor demo 80" TV that went for $6500, although >> mounting it (particularly on the clubroom's walls) would be challenging. >> For half that price you could get a pretty good HD projector. >> >> -- >> # TRS-80 trs80(a)ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au #/ "Otherwise Bub here will do \ >> # UCC Wheel Member http://trs80.ucc.asn.au/ #| what squirrels do best | >> [ "There's nobody getting rich writing ]| -- Collect and hide your | >> [ software that I know of" -- Bill Gates, 1980 ]\ nuts." -- Acid Reflux #231 / >> Unsubscribe here: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/options/tech/matches%40ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au >> > Unsubscribe here: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/options/tech/matches%40ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Nov 12 18:59:24 2013 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:59:24 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Upgrade porcupine Message-ID: Thanks to [*OX] for putting us on the cloud and installing Mint 15 "Olivia" (64 bit). It replaces the 32bit version of Xubuntu that was on it previously. The root user is "roo". Wheel/sprocket has sudoers etc. I didn't actually contribute except to send this email, [SZM] From bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Tue Nov 12 22:19:07 2013 From: bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Andrew Adamson) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 22:19:07 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Upgrade porcupine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Nice work. I've enabled the root account and pushed wheel keys to it. Andrew Adamson bob at ucc.asn.au |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them." | | ---Peter's Laws | On Tue, 12 Nov 2013, Sam Moore wrote: > Thanks to [*OX] for putting us on the cloud and installing Mint 15 > "Olivia" (64 bit). It replaces the 32bit version of Xubuntu that was on it > previously. > > The root user is "roo". Wheel/sprocket has sudoers etc. > > I didn't actually contribute except to send this email, > > [SZM] > Unsubscribe here: http://lists.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au/mailman/options/tech/bob%40ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au > From matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au Mon Nov 25 10:39:19 2013 From: matches at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au (Sam Moore) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:39:19 +0800 (WST) Subject: [tech] Where is /away, was "Re: [ucc] Minutes of Meeting on Sunday, 24th November 2013" In-Reply-To: References: <20131124021230.6C7B0600B3@motsugo.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> Message-ID: On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, David Adam wrote: > On Sun, 24 Nov 2013, Erin Steicke wrote: >> Committee Meeting for 2013-11-24 >> ----------------------------------- >> Machine Technical Reports >> ------------------------- >> Servers >> - SAN got sick on 2013-11-20 which somehow stopped Mylah exporting /away >> - Even though /away is actually /volumes/space/home/away on nortel >> - Thanks [DAA] for fixing with magical powers > > I'm not sure where this idea came from - I see [SZM] mentioned it on IRC, > but I didn't have time to correct him. > > /away is /backups/restored/space/away on Mylah, and the /backups volume is > on the SAN. tl;dr /away is actually /backups/restored/space/away/home but /space/away/home is a symlink to it, and /vol/space is on nortel. Alright, I feel very stupid but since the majority of wheel seemed to be of the same opinion as me (or at least were too lazy to correct me despite several blatantly wrong statements on my part to this list and elsewhere), I want to reveal the source of confusion here. Extracts from /etc/fstab on mylah and exports on nortel show that /space is definitely on nortel and /backups is definitely on the SAN. mylah: /dev/mapper/sanspace-backups /backups ext3 auto,user_xattr,acl 0 2 nortel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au:/vol/space /space nfs nfsvers=3,auto,rw,tcp,nosuid,nodev,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,intr 0 0 nortel: /vol/space -sec=sys,rw=:mylah.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au: Extracts from /etc/exports on mylah show that it is exporting /space/away/home to all machines except Red (note that Red hasn't been in use for months). /space/away/home pinball(rw,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,sync) ... /backups/restored/space/away/home red(rw,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check,sync) Now, at the time I thought "/away must have been on the SAN, but got moved and no one bothered updating Red". And then I checked for a symlink just in case: /space/away: drwxr-xr-x 3 backups backup 4.0K Jun 26 2012 away /backups/restored/away: drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 4.0K Jun 26 2012 away What I failed to do was check /space/away/home itself. Had I done this, the situation would have become obvious: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 38 Jun 26 2012 /space/away/home -> ../../backups/restored/space/away/home So. Everything points to /away being on nortel, until you find out that it is actually a symlink on nortel that points to the SAN. There is a folder /space/away/home_partial_rescue. I suspect that the "good reason" is that this folder used to be /space/away/home and after /away was moved to the SAN the symlink was made because no one could be bothered updating /etc/exports on mylah and /etc/fstab on everything. I'm sure there were emails to this list at the time this was done and you've all secretly been laughing at me, but if there weren't then here you go. I'm not sure how a symlink on an NFS filesystem pointing to a physical device affects performance, but I'm not going to change all those config files. From oxinabox at ucc.asn.au Fri Nov 29 15:58:54 2013 From: oxinabox at ucc.asn.au (Frames) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:58:54 +0800 Subject: [tech] Date Moved: Next week: Education in the clubroom. "Neural Networks for Machine Learning" by Geoffrey Hinton In-Reply-To: <52954936.9080003@ucc.asn.au> References: <52954936.9080003@ucc.asn.au> Message-ID: <5298493E.60506@ucc.asn.au> Hi all, Some things have come up and I will be at sea next week. So we are moving this back a week. So commensing on 9th of December. (If anyone else is actually interested/has the time) [*OX] Frames wrote: > Hi all, > Next week (commensing 2nd december), > Matches and I are going to be doing a 1 week intensive online course > on neural networks, in preparation for our > final year projects, and for general learning. All are welcome to join > us. > > We will be doing "Neural Networks for Machine Learning" by Geoffrey > Hinton from the University of Toronto. > https://www.coursera.org/course/neuralnets > I believe we are 18 months too late to get accrediation from the > course but all the content is still online. > > We will be in the clubroom from > 1pm-5pm: Monday/Wednesday/Friday > 10am-5pm: Tuesday/Thursday > > Or until it is done. > There is only 11 hours of lecturers, > but there is quizzes, projects, and a test. > Some or all of which we may look at. > > During this time we will be using the projector, and speakers. > Following the priority of educational projects over all other things, > and forwarding the objectives of the club "to advance computer science": > other users of the clubroom will be asked to turn off speakers etc. > > Good lord, what have I got myself into? > Regards > [*OX] >