<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"><head><meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 15 (filtered medium)"><style><!--
/* Font Definitions */
@font-face
        {font-family:Wingdings;
        panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}
@font-face
        {font-family:"MS Mincho";
        panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:"Cambria Math";
        panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:Calibri;
        panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
        {font-family:"\@MS Mincho";
        panose-1:2 2 6 9 4 2 5 8 3 4;}
/* Style Definitions */
p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
        {margin:0cm;
        margin-bottom:.0001pt;
        font-size:11.0pt;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:#0563C1;
        text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
        {mso-style-priority:99;
        color:#954F72;
        text-decoration:underline;}
p.msonormal0, li.msonormal0, div.msonormal0
        {mso-style-name:msonormal;
        mso-margin-top-alt:auto;
        margin-right:0cm;
        mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
        margin-left:0cm;
        font-size:11.0pt;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
span.EmailStyle18
        {mso-style-type:personal;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
        color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle19
        {mso-style-type:personal-compose;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
        color:windowtext;}
span.EmailStyle20
        {mso-style-type:personal;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;
        color:windowtext;}
.MsoChpDefault
        {mso-style-type:export-only;
        font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;}
@page WordSection1
        {size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
        margin:72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt 72.0pt;}
div.WordSection1
        {page:WordSection1;}
/* List Definitions */
@list l0
        {mso-list-id:142507289;
        mso-list-template-ids:243018514;}
@list l0:level1
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:36.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level2
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:72.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level3
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:108.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level4
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:144.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level5
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:180.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level6
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:216.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level7
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:252.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level8
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:288.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l0:level9
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:324.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l1
        {mso-list-id:285280834;
        mso-list-template-ids:1427779466;}
@list l1:level1
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:36.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Symbol;}
@list l1:level2
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:o;
        mso-level-tab-stop:72.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:"Courier New";
        mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";}
@list l1:level3
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:108.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level4
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:144.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level5
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:180.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level6
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:216.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level7
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:252.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level8
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:288.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Wingdings;}
@list l1:level9
        {mso-level-number-format:bullet;
        mso-level-text:;
        mso-level-tab-stop:324.0pt;
        mso-level-number-position:left;
        text-indent:-18.0pt;
        mso-ansi-font-size:10.0pt;
        font-family:Wingdings;}
ol
        {margin-bottom:0cm;}
ul
        {margin-bottom:0cm;}
--></style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapedefaults v:ext="edit" spidmax="1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
<o:shapelayout v:ext="edit">
<o:idmap v:ext="edit" data="1" />
</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Tom,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>My 2c…<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>CPU: The most recent rebuild of porcupine went with a Ryzen 2700 – I’m curious why you went with a lower spec on these two?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>GPU: Spec looks good – where did you find a vega 56 card for under $600 though!? I had a look around and had real problems with vega 56 availability, so I’m suggesting nvidia alternatives. The thing that kills the most graphics cards in UCC is without a doubt the fans seizing; I strongly recommend getting ball bearing fans where you can. I can’t find anywhere that lists the fan type on the MSI vega 56 card, but usually they advertise when they have the feature – definitely go with that if it has decent fans and your stated price. Otherwise, something like the <a href="https://www.pccasegear.com/products/45183/asus-geforce-rtx-2060-turbo-6gb">Asus RTX 2060</a> might be worth a look? You will want to double check the PSU size in clownfish if you go with the MSI – it suggests a 650W.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Mobo: Good<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>RAM: Good<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Storage: SATA presents a bottleneck that really sucks these days, and I think an M.2 SSD is the way to go. We went with an M.2 Samsung 970 EVO (MZ-V7E500BW) on porcupine and that seems to be pretty good. I would get this for both new machines and treat the 500GB SATA SSD as a spare/upgrade for something else.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>PSU/Case: I believe that both pinball and clownfish were built with several iterations of machine in mind, so the case and psu *<b>should</b>* be okay. The only thing we got bitten by with porcupine is the case fans. I ended up getting one of <a href="https://www.ple.com.au/Products/625721/Corsair-SP120-120mm-Static-Pressure-RGB-Fan">these</a> for the rear, and one of <a href="https://www.ple.com.au/Products/620077/Noctua-NF-R8-80mm-Redux-Ed-PWM-Cooling-Fan">these</a> for the front.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> tech-bounces+bob=ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au@ucc.asn.au <tech-bounces+bob=ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au@ucc.asn.au> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Almeida<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 10 April 2019 6:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> tech@ucc.asn.au<br><b>Subject:</b> [tech] Upgrades for Pinball and Clownfish<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>After having recently had a look at the specifications for various machines in the clubroom, it has become pretty apparent that both Pinball and Clownfish are in dire need of an upgrade. I've listed their specs below:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=3 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt;overflow:hidden'><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=0 style='width:0cm;border-collapse:collapse'><tr style='height:15.75pt'><td valign=bottom style='border:solid black 1.0pt;background:#434343;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:white'>Name<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border:solid black 1.0pt;border-left:none;background:#434343;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:white'>CPU<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border:solid black 1.0pt;border-left:none;background:#434343;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:white'>GPU<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border:solid black 1.0pt;border-left:none;background:#434343;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:white'>Mobo<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border:solid black 1.0pt;border-left:none;background:#434343;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:white'>RAM<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border:solid black 1.0pt;border-left:none;background:#434343;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:white'>Storage<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:15.75pt'><td valign=bottom style='border:solid black 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Pinball<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Intel Core i5-750<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>NVidia GeForce 960<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>ASUSTeK P7P55D LE<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1333<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Samsung 850 EVO 500GB<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='height:15.75pt'><td valign=bottom style='border:solid black 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Clownfish<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>AMD A8-3850<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>NVidia Geforce 8800 GT<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>ASUSTeK F1A75-M LE<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1333<o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td valign=bottom style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid black 1.0pt;border-right:solid black 1.0pt;padding:1.5pt 2.25pt 1.5pt 2.25pt;height:15.75pt;overflow:hidden'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Corsair Force 3 120GB<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><br>Obviously Pinball has a "good enough" GPU and a pretty decent SSD, so those are likely not needing upgrading, however it seems to me as though almost everything else should be upgraded. Here are what I'd like to propose as new components for both of the computers:<o:p></o:p></span></p><ul type=disc><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='color:windowtext'>CPU: AMD Ryzen 2600 - $244<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='color:windowtext'>GPU: MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Air Boost - $550<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='color:windowtext'>Mobo: ASRock B450 Pro4 - $139<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='color:windowtext'>RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) - $150<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo3'><span style='color:windowtext'>Storage: Samsung 860 EVO 500GB - $120<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>All together, this would be a sum total of ~$1736 for all the parts for both computers given that everything gets bought new.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Please let me know what you all think.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>[THA]<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>