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I built a machine last month, and highly recommend the 1660TI as the value option rather than the 2060.</div>
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Given that the UCC machines don't use 4k monitors, I think the 2060 is overkill. </div>
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The 1660TI rivals the 1070 in performance and is only marginally worse than the 2060. </div>
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Its price point I think makes it the best value card on the market right now. I went with the Gigabyte model.</div>
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The ryzen 2600 is an excellent value choice in my view as well. I see little reason for the 2700. It's not like these machines are being used to render tens of hours of HD video after all. For all other purposes, the 2600 should be more than sufficient.</div>
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A 650W psu will be able to handle such a built quite comfortably so that would avoid an additional unnecessary upgrade.</div>
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Warm regards</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 16 April 2019 12:00 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bob Adamson; tech@ucc.asn.au<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tech] Upgrades for Pinball and Clownfish</font>
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<div>Thanks for your feedback.</div>
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<div>I went for the lower spec Ryzen 2600 because because it is cheaper than the 2700 without losing too much performance. While the extra two cores that the 2700 has can make a difference in some scenarios, I can't see a situation where someone would be majorly
annoyed that they would be on a computer with a 2600 instead of a 2700.</div>
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<div>With regards to the GPU, <a href="https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137263">
Newegg currently has the MSI card listed for $530.20</a>, and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/MSI-RX-Vega-Air-Boost/dp/B078DZR5YK">
Amazon for $329.99</a> (although I can't tell if the price is USD or AUD). I also can't find any information about the fans, so I'm happy to change to the RTX 2060 if you believe it to be the better choice.</div>
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<div>Coming to storage, I agree that an M.2 SSD is probably optimal. I'll double check the cases for pinball and clownfish later this week to make sure the PSU and fans will be fine.</div>
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<div>Thanks once again for your feedback.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="x_gmail_attr">On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:38 AM Bob Adamson <<a href="mailto:bob@ucc.asn.au">bob@ucc.asn.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Hi Tom,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">My 2c�<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">CPU: The most recent rebuild of porcupine went with a Ryzen 2700 � I�m curious why you went with a lower spec on these two?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">GPU: Spec looks good � where did you find a vega 56 card for under $600 though!? I had a look around and had real problems with vega 56 availability, so I�m suggesting nvidia alternatives. The thing that kills the most graphics cards
in UCC is without a doubt the fans seizing; I strongly recommend getting ball bearing fans where you can. I can�t find anywhere that lists the fan type on the MSI vega 56 card, but usually they advertise when they have the feature � definitely go with that
if it has decent fans and your stated price. Otherwise, something like the <a href="https://www.pccasegear.com/products/45183/asus-geforce-rtx-2060-turbo-6gb" target="_blank">
Asus RTX 2060</a> might be worth a look? You will want to double check the PSU size in clownfish if you go with the MSI � it suggests a 650W.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Mobo: Good<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">RAM: Good<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">Storage: SATA presents a bottleneck that really sucks these days, and I think an M.2 SSD is the way to go. We went with an M.2 Samsung 970 EVO (MZ-V7E500BW) on porcupine and that seems to be pretty good. I would get this for both new
machines and treat the 500GB SATA SSD as a spare/upgrade for something else.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal">PSU/Case: I believe that both pinball and clownfish were built with several iterations of machine in mind, so the case and psu *<b>should</b>* be okay. The only thing we got bitten by with porcupine is the case fans. I ended up getting
one of <a href="https://www.ple.com.au/Products/625721/Corsair-SP120-120mm-Static-Pressure-RGB-Fan" target="_blank">
these</a> for the rear, and one of <a href="https://www.ple.com.au/Products/620077/Noctua-NF-R8-80mm-Redux-Ed-PWM-Cooling-Fan" target="_blank">
these</a> for the front.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Bob<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> tech-bounces+bob=<a href="mailto:ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au@ucc.asn.au" target="_blank">ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au@ucc.asn.au</a> <tech-bounces+bob=<a href="mailto:ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au@ucc.asn.au" target="_blank">ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au@ucc.asn.au</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tom Almeida<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 10 April 2019 6:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tech@ucc.asn.au" target="_blank">tech@ucc.asn.au</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [tech] Upgrades for Pinball and Clownfish<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">After having recently had a look at the specifications for various machines in the clubroom, it has become pretty apparent that both Pinball and Clownfish are in dire need of an upgrade. I've listed their specs below:<u></u><u></u></p>
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Obviously Pinball has a "good enough" GPU and a pretty decent SSD, so those are likely not needing upgrading, however it seems to me as though almost everything else should be upgraded. Here are what I'd like to propose as new components for both of the computers:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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