[UCCBball] Game this week
Tom Eitelhuber
tom.eitelhuber at gmail.com
Wed Mar 6 13:01:19 AWST 2019
Nice analysis Chris, lots of good points there.
I think it would be good to highlight some "high priority" things for us to
work on, so we don't spread ourselves too thin. If you had to pick, say, 3
things to immediately focus on as a team, what would you choose?
On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 1:46 AM Christopher Grubb <grubbcm at gmail.com> wrote:
> Main take-aways from me, are:
> *1) Sideline Inbound Defense*
>
> - Weak-side forward has the best view and should direct the defense
> (who guards the corner, is the center in the right position, where are the
> offensive rebounders etc)
> - Guards will most often have to defend all the way to the corner,
> especially if the ball is inbounded low on the sideline, the catch, pass
> back to inbounder for a screened, open 3 is pretty common and a forward
> can't usually cover everything in this situation. Let the forward tell you
> they have the corner, don't try and tell them, you can't see as much as
> they can.
> - Everybody needs to talk more.
>
> *2) Boxing out*
>
> - We frequently make an initial move to box someone out, then lose
> contact with the player and stand still watching the ball
> - The weak-side forward's main job is communication and looking for
> where the offensive rebounders are going to come from.
>
> *3) Use our fouls better*
>
> - If a player has the inside rebounding position right under the
> basket and they are going to get the rebound, foul them as they are getting
> the rebound (2 arms, across their arms and the ball). This will get them
> the ball at the baseline (best outcome) or 2 free throws (middle outcome),
> worst case is we foul them too late and they get the bucket and a free
> throw, but that's just a timing/technique thing and we should be attempting
> to foul here, at least until you have 3+ fouls.
> - Foul early in transition to stop the ball.
>
> *4) Inbounding the ball*
>
> - 2 hands is better than 1 (you can use a pass-fake for starters)
> - Make sure you've looked for where the defenders are (both as a
> passer and a receiver)
> - Call to the player you want to receive the ball, ideally they will
> then be moving towards the ball when they catch it.
> - When you know you are open, call for the ball and take at least one
> step towards the ball when it is passed to you.
>
> *5) Securing a defensive rebound*
>
> - We very, very rarely get a fast-break so avoiding turnovers is the
> top priority.
> - Bring the ball in to your chest with your elbows out.
> - Pivot so you can see towards the basket we are shooting at
> - Make sure you know where the defenders are, then make a decision to
> pass or dribble.
> - Throwing an unexpected pass, particularly to a forward in the back
> court (defensive end of the halfway line) should not happen.
>
> *6) Transition Defense*
>
> - Force people to use their left hand (most players) and where
> possible channel them towards a sideline
> - If you are running/walking back late in defence, you have the best
> view, especially for where offensive rebounders are coming from... talk!
> - Ball-watching hurts us a lot in general, but in transition D most of
> all.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 7:41 PM Tom Eitelhuber <tom.eitelhuber at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks very much for recording this Alwyn. Would be great to catch some
>> more offense next time but was really handy seeing our defense in action.
>>
>> There were two key things I noticed about myself:
>> 1. I look very stiff and I'm often trailing the play. I should take more
>> subs and do more mid-game stretches, even if I'm feeling decent. Obviously
>> I'm dropping off more than I realise.
>> 2. I need to be careful about dropping too low on baseline plays where
>> the forward *hasn't* been beaten - it didn't result in any issues but I can
>> see my positioning isn't ideal. I'll try to work on this.
>>
>> I agree the box outs are a problem. Looks to me there are three main
>> cases, so we might as well take a closer look. They actually show three
>> different examples of things going amiss.
>>
>> #1 Long vid 10:45 - tuning out - Chris and Accy both switch off and the
>> tall guy comes down the middle unimpeded for an easy put back
>> #2 Long vid 14:55 - poor initial positioning - their guy gets a clear
>> path to run all the way down to the hoop without disruption and then plants
>> himself in front of Dave
>> #3 Short vid 1:40 - establish position but don't look for anyone - me and
>> Alwyn both turn and position ourselves for the board but completely fail to
>> box out the guy running in between us (and he comes from mid-range, so
>> that's our bad, not the guards)
>>
>> I think we do all of these from time to time, but #3 is probably the
>> thing that most of us are guilty of, the most regularly. We generally play
>> for boards but still have poor awareness of our surroundings.
>>
>> One last thing. Accy, the play at 1:28 (long vid) is a good example of
>> what I talk to you about sometimes, where you stay stationary and pass down
>> through defenders from the high post. I think it's a better option on plays
>> like this, where you're high and there's a low option, to take a dribble or
>> two (you've got a nice lane across the keyway to the right, your strong
>> side), draw the defenders and then look for either the layup or a dump off.
>> Both are higher percentage options than the longer high-low pass.
>>
>> I am 100% happy to take constructive criticism if anyone has any. Chris,
>> I've been thinking of what you said about trying to be more straight up
>> when I'm shooting in the key - definitely going to work on that.
>>
>> Long email, but hopefully worth writing... thanks all.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tom
>>
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>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 11:47 PM Alwyn Nixon-Lloyd <
>> zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > the whole game. Feel free to try 1080, but I'm not 100% convinced it's
>>> > absolutely necessary, at least for most of what I'm after (that being
>>> rough
>>> > player positioning). Could be helpful for those that want to work on
>>> skills
>>>
>>> I think 1080 might help seeing the 'other side' of the court. sometime
>>> it's hard to see what's going on on the non-camera side of the court.
>>>
>>> > The main thing that jumped out at me is just _how_ frequently we suck
>>> at
>>> > boxing out and/or how often we get stuck watching the ball. :/ It's
>>> > interesting seeing yourself on a play you remember and thought you did
>>> okay
>>> > on, and then realising that you totally missed the eventual rebounder
>>> > casually strolling past. :|
>>>
>>> I noticed that a bit. And also how we collapse quite a bit and just
>>> wind
>>> up under the bucket.. Something else I need to look at.
>>>
>>>
>>> > Certainly something I'll be looking at in future.
>>> >
>>> > Chas
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, 24 Feb 2019, Alwyn Nixon-Lloyd wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Just some thoughts on the watching it.
>>> >>
>>> >> 1. It's weird watching yourself.
>>> >> 2. It's a bit frustrating when the ball goes to the left of screen.
>>> And
>>> >> you can see a little bit. I think next time if i get there early
>>> enough to
>>> >> get the right angle, we should be able to see more of the game.
>>> >> 3. I think i recorded at 720p, so the definition is a little
>>> lacking. next
>>> >> time I'll try 1080 and that should mean better clarity.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Ok, so there's some sort of maximum length for videos, so I'm going
>>> to
>>> >>> have to do some editing before the other part can be uploaded.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Yay.
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Sat, 23 Feb 2019, Alwyn Nixon-Lloyd wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> It's an unlisted video. this is the last few minutes of the second
>>> half.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Uploading the other part now.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXEyv1Pglj0&feature=youtu.be
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, Chas Stan-Bishop wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I'll be playing, and I assume Dave will be too.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Also, just a heads up, Chris thought it might be worth trying Dave
>>> in at
>>> >>>>> high post, given his skillset, and it sound like a good idea to
>>> me.
>>> >>>>> We'll see if he can collapse all 5 players and still somehow pivot
>>> into
>>> >>>>> an open shot. :P
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> There are pretty good odds I'll be available for some Saturday
>>> afternoon
>>> >>>>> training.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Chas
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2019, Christopher Grubb wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I’m in for tomorrow
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> On 22 Feb 2019, at 1:07 pm, Alwyn Nixon-Lloyd
>>> >>>>>>> <zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Mail list seems to be working now.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Alwyn
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Feb 2019, Andrew Bailey wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Everyone, Game this week is at 2:40. Seb can't make it and I
>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>> give it a miss if
>>> >>>>>>>> Oliver and James are coming.
>>> >>>>>>>> Regards,
>>> >>>>>>>> Andrew.
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