[committee] Restrictions on group applications for freshers

[Matt Didcoe]

Oh good, more list drama!

I feel that perhaps this thread didn't get off to the right start, so
lets forget all about coke for now and address the actual point Ashley
raised :)

1) To the best of my knowledge, this is the first time "complaints"
have been made regarding this longstanding UCC practice.
2) Chris says the next bit quite well, so I refer you back to his email :)
3) I would add to Chris' email, that respect is something that, much
like trust, is earned over time and this respect is very important,
particularly for door members who are tasked with maintaining order
and trying to get people to leave as required.
4) Jon - who are these people who were telling him it was a waste of
time (feel free to email names off list)

Applications after this period are assessed on trust already, with the
addition of some basic questioning to ensure the applicant understands
the exactly what the role entails. I don't feel anything needs to be
changed in the way we assess people for roles within the club (its
worked pretty darn well for the last god knows how many years) - if
there's someone really exceptional and keen, they'll stick around and
do little bits of pieces for the first six months, happily waiting for
the opportunity to step up. Remember, being on one of our groups is
not an entitlement you get when you sign up.

[MRD]

On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 1:22 AM, Jonathan Van buren <vanbujm at gmail.com> wrote:
> @BOB: I just found it odd that there was so many balance adds by root, i it
> seemed to me that the point of the logs was so see clearly who is adding
> what to where and having a group of anonymous root adds counteracts this, it
> was never a issue of trust.
>
> @SZM: You are correct that no applications have been denied lately, it was
> just that the way people put it to Cain his application was a waste of time
> because he was a first year, and i can verify(i was there)  that many people
> he was asking when trying to submit his LOLCAT application seemed to dismiss
> him. The reason i brought this up is i was worried that word would get
> around that freshers should not even bother trying to get into groups
> because of this, and i personally believe that this would be a significantly
> negative thing to insinuate.
>