[committee] [wheel] Cockgrunter - Important

[Jonathan Van buren]

Dear extra most dearest committee,

Thank you for your swift and no doubt highly considered action against
those that chose to make a highly used computer "properly functioning Linux
machine" (read: pretty much never used after its "upgrade").

Thank you for recalling my humble wishes when I donated the machine to be
used as a Windows machine (I'm happy with dual boot) and honoring that even
though the computer has seen better days.

Thank you for dealing with the likely onslaught of ancient members, some of
whom of which are only seen once in a blue moon (read: only when Satan
let's them walk the mortal plane once again).

Thank you for being for the most part a friendly and approachable committee
that has put in fair and honest effort over the last year. One which has
made the clubs day to day runnings more inclusive then ever (like dayum we
had a good fresher year). The club has improved a lot in my measly 6 years
of  being an active member.

Rest assured the votes given to you were paid back in full. Sleep easy
knowing you served the club well.

Godspeed committee and may the next committee look towards you as an
example of committee that truely represents it's members.

<3
JVB

On Mon, 14 Mar 2016, 8:25 PM Chris Squire <spartan at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> Dearest Committee,
>
> I'm most disappointed in approach you have to an otherwise simple
> 'issue' and discussion which follows.
>
> Formal sentence construction and a pretense of authority doesn't excuse
> overreaction, nor failing to have a frank and direct offlist discussion to
> firstly establish the claimed actions of members, secondly to properly
> establish what happened from the secondary evidence of webcam history, and
> thirdly to remember this club is actually built on the daily
> experimentation and organic changes of members rather than a hierarchy
> atop its perch.
>
> The process has been just as opaque as the commiittee's operation through
> the year, and committee should well remember their responsibilities are
> to serve the members and ensure transparent leadership for the votes they
> earned in lieu of members performing direct democratic intervention.
> It is not permission to keep to an insular group and provide decrees. I
> only hope that the club can remain as inclusive and open as the committees
> I've been a part of way back when.
>
> Heaven forbid an ancient machine which was deemed no longer fit for
> purpose be repurposed as a properly functioning linux boot computer in a
> club known for bucking the trend of running Windows anywhere and
> everywhere.
>
> Leave the dramatics at the door on the way into tomorrow's AGM.
>
> [CJS] spartan
>
> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016, Mitchell Pomery wrote:
>
> > Hi Andrew,
> >
> > I am aware of who was sitting at the machine last Monday night. I also
> > hoped that we could settle this without degrading into a shouting
> match/wheel
> > war. This decision was arrived upon by the committee during a committee
> > meeting.
> >
> >> From discussions with the involved parties and people in the clubroom
> the
> > following day, it appeared as if you were the ringleader in this
> instance. If
> > this was not the case, please let us know. However the reason for the
> > difference in punishments is due to past interactions with the parties
> > involved. If you this is not correct or you think that we are treating
> you
> > unfairly, please let the committee know.
> >
> > As outlined in the email below, the reason for the account locking is
> due to
> > what we gauged the intention behind the actions to be and the events
> > following them. It was made apparent that you are trying to control the
> club
> > by any means possible, when this is not within your rights. The club is
> run
> > by the committee under the guidance of the constitution and policies made
> > under it. If you have issues with the way the committee is running the
> club,
> > and you feel that the committee is not listening to your concerns, there
> are
> > measures within the constitution that allow you to take appropriate
> action.
> >
> > If you would like to catch up with me after the AGM tomorrow, let me
> know and
> > I will make sure that I have time for you. We are willing to leave any
> > disciplanary action until after this meeting.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mitchell Pomery
> >
> > 2015 President
> > University Computer Club
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 14 Mar 2016, Andrew Adamson wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Mitch,
> >>
> >> I wasn't the one who reinstalled cockgrunter. Check the webcam archives
> >> for the evening in question. Not that it even matters - the machine is
> >> about to be thrown out.
> >>
> >> Andrew Adamson
> >> bob at ucc.asn.au
> >>
> >> |"If you can't beat them, join them, and then beat them."
>   |
> >> | ---Peter's Laws
>   |
> >>
> >> On Mon, 14 Mar 2016, Mitchell Pomery wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Andrew Adamson,
> >>>
> >>> Upon discussion by the 2015 UCC Committee about your actions last
> Monday
> >>> night
> >>> and the responses to questions asked of you afterwards, we, the 2015
> UCC
> >>> Committee, have decided to lock your account for 7 days from Midnight,
> >>> Monday
> >>> the 14th of March. You will have until midnight to make any
> arrangements,
> >>> such
> >>> as email forwarding. If you are found to be accessing UCC's servers or
> >>> desktops through other means during this time, further action may be
> >>> taken.
> >>>
> >>> This outcome was decided on by a vote by the UCC Committee after
> reviewing
> >>> the
> >>> actions taken and intent behind them in regards to cockgrunter being
> >>> reinstalled without warning or reason. We feel that these actions were
> >>> taken
> >>> with intent to subvert committee and its processes and were done in an
> >>> attempt
> >>> to try and set the club on the path that you want it to be on, when
> this
> >>> is
> >>> not within your purview. This is not the sort of behaviour that we
> expect
> >>> from
> >>> the system administrators in our club and the fact that this has
> occured
> >>> is
> >>> upsetting.
> >>>
> >>> We understand that you have put a lot of time and effort into the club,
> >>> and
> >>> feel passionately for the club and want to see it be the best that it
> can
> >>> be.
> >>> However, the day to day running of the club is done by the committee,
> and
> >>> it's
> >>> direction is set by the committee, guided by the constitution and the
> >>> policies
> >>> made under it. If you would like to help with setting the direction of
> the
> >>> club and it's day to day running, please feel free to run for a
> committee
> >>> position or to consult with the committee when they are making
> policies.
> >>>
> >>> In the event where you have a disagreement with actions of the
> committee,
> >>> or
> >>> the direction in which the club is being taken, please bring them up
> >>> formally
> >>> with the committee. If you feel the committee is ignoring you or not
> >>> responding to you, please feel free to escalate your concerns, up to
> >>> organising a General Meeting Called by Ordinary Members as outlined by
> the
> >>> constitution if so required.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Mitchell Pomery on behalf of the 2015 UCC Committee
> >>>
> >>> 2015 President
> >>> University Computer Club
> >>>
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