[committee] [wheel] UCC policies and regulations

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On 28/05/2018 12:20 PM, gozzarda at ucc.asn.au wrote:
>
> Firstly, UCC Committee does not have the power to create policies that 
> last beyond their term. 

Citation please.
I've heard that claim thrown around a few times. I'm intensely dubious 
of it.
I assume SOC or the guild has passed a rule claiming such?
If so I'ld like to see it, and have it linked in the collection of rules 
on the infobase page.
(I used to maintain that list fairly closely, but a lot broke with the 
university and guild redid there websites)

It would be worth checking if such a rule from Guild actually trivially 
can be applied to us.
Unlike say Unigames, we do not have a clause saying that "the rules of 
the guild shall supersede our own".
Further we do not even have an objective to remain affiliated (unlike 
most guild clubs),
though of course we want to do so.
So if it is a SOC or Guild rule saying that your rules automatically expire,
we would likely have to actually pass a rule to bring it into effect.
And once we brought it into effect, each committee would have to pass it 
again since it would itself expire.
(unless we made a policy or a constitution change) .

In general (without such rule from outside sources),
I would assert that if the committee has the ability to make rules at 
all, (lets say rules rather than Policy since that is section 25)
that there is no reason a rule the committee made would terminate with them.
Committee should be arguing that they have the ability make day-to-day 
rules under that Powers of the Club:
/"13. The Club may do all things necessary or convenient for carrying 
out its objects and purposes"/

In particular for Wheel and Door:
"13.6 appoint agents to transact any business of the Club on its behalf"
Which of-course inherently has the club creating as rule that defined 
what that business is,
and how it is to be transacted.
I believe that rule is covered by 
https://www.ucc.asn.au/infobase/policies/groupguidelines.pdf
A relevant part of that document would be:
/"Wheel members will inform users of computing matters which may affect 
them - such as conditions of acceptable use"
/Which to me seem to be inline with telling someone that their account 
would be locked if they have reinstalled the OS.


As a complete aside, I have no problem with the committee changing the 
rules so that
the disciplining people, is outside the power of door or wheel.
Seems reasonable to me; a lot of the account locking rules are kinda 
outdated.
They seem to be from a time (before my time) when we didn't door people 
as much as just locked their accounts. (First recorded dooring was in 
2008, though I know it wasn't the first one ever, since the phrase 
dooring was already a verb)

But as a matter of procedure, the committee does actually have to change 
the rules to change the rules.
Or at very least update the documents to say that is is so.
And they need to do so before issuing warnings to people for acting 
inline with the rules as published.
(Currently as worded, it is unclear as to if the warning was for overtly 
aggressive, for being wrong, or for acting outside the rules.
The first is fine, the second is a problematic demand for perfection, 
and the third is out of order.)

[*OX]
Wheel Member


On 28/05/2018 12:20 PM, gozzarda at ucc.asn.au wrote:
> Hi wheel,
>
> Following the recent emails that have gone out to wheel@, I think it 
> is necessary to clarify current UCC policies that affect wheel members.
>
> Firstly, UCC Committee does not have the power to create policies that 
> last beyond their term. The only way such a policy can be created is 
> by two-thirds majority vote of a General Meeting and all such policies 
> must be appended to the constitution. The Account Locking Guidelines 
> on the UCC site were last updated in 2009, have not been passed by 
> this year's Committee, and hence are not current policy. This is not 
> made clear on the website, and that is something we intend to fix 
> shortly. The annual reinstatement of club regulations has been an 
> ongoing issue and one we are working to solve by fixing our Committee 
> handover systems and protocols. We intend to write official 
> regulations in the near future.
>
> As it stands now, wheel members are club members with sysadmin access. 
> As systems administrators, we have the power to maintain the operation 
> and security of the club's machines. This does not automatically give 
> us the authority to discipline club members. If you encounter a matter 
> that is not an immediate security threat that you feel requires 
> disciplinary action, please contact Committee with all relevant 
> information.
>
> Thanks for volunteering your time to help keep the club running and 
> secure. Hopefully things will become more straightforward in the near 
> future. If you have any questions or concerns please contact myself or 
> the Committee.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Andrew "Gozz" Gozzard
> UCC President 2018
> Wheel Member



On 28/05/2018 12:20 PM, gozzarda at ucc.asn.au wrote:
> Hi wheel,
>
> Following the recent emails that have gone out to wheel@, I think it 
> is necessary to clarify current UCC policies that affect wheel members.
>
> Firstly, UCC Committee does not have the power to create policies that 
> last beyond their term. The only way such a policy can be created is 
> by two-thirds majority vote of a General Meeting and all such policies 
> must be appended to the constitution. The Account Locking Guidelines 
> on the UCC site were last updated in 2009, have not been passed by 
> this year's Committee, and hence are not current policy. This is not 
> made clear on the website, and that is something we intend to fix 
> shortly. The annual reinstatement of club regulations has been an 
> ongoing issue and one we are working to solve by fixing our Committee 
> handover systems and protocols. We intend to write official 
> regulations in the near future.
>
> As it stands now, wheel members are club members with sysadmin access. 
> As systems administrators, we have the power to maintain the operation 
> and security of the club's machines. This does not automatically give 
> us the authority to discipline club members. If you encounter a matter 
> that is not an immediate security threat that you feel requires 
> disciplinary action, please contact Committee with all relevant 
> information.
>
> Thanks for volunteering your time to help keep the club running and 
> secure. Hopefully things will become more straightforward in the near 
> future. If you have any questions or concerns please contact myself or 
> the Committee.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Andrew "Gozz" Gozzard
> UCC President 2018
> Wheel Member



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