[tech] Donations from ITS

[Justin Wake]

Compared to rack servers, yeah, but the heat density is obviously much higher - those things are like little furnaces. Overall it'll be a win, but actually installing and using it will require a little forethought and planning.

On 03/05/2010, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Bailey wrote:

> On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:32:06PM +0800, Mitch Kelly wrote:
>> In todays news:
>> 
>> UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.
>> 
> Blades + Virtualisation are generally as a rule much more energy effecient / heat output freindly than individual servers. Just Saying.
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
>> On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
>> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
>> To: Bob Adamson
>> Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
>> Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS
>> 
>> 
>> .. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
>> but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
>> can lead to some pretty funny disasters..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Adrian
>> 
>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, this should include things like:
>>> 
>>> * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
>>>  protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
>>> 
>>> If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
>>> server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
>>> 
>>> I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
>>> clubroom, aircon or not.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Adrian
>>> 
>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
>>>> My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
>> came 
>>>> across rude.
>>>> 
>>>> UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on 
>>>> them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra 
>>>> storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to  
>>>> accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While
>> 
>>>> theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
>> able 
>>>> to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the  
>>>> aircon be able to keep up?
>>>> 
>>>> You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have  
>>>> observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they
>> 
>>>> are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
>> that 
>>>> sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted
>> 
>>>> them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not 
>>>> to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants 
>>>> (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are 
>>>> valid.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob Adamson
>>>> UCC Treasurer
>>>> 
>>>> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>> |
>>>> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary"
>> |
>>>> | ---Peter's Laws
>> |
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
>>>>> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can
>> be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the
>> clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
>>>>> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sam.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Samuel Cochran
>>>>> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
>> wrote:
>>>>>      I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
>> half-rack
>>>>>      sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
>> things, and
>>>>>      what we are going to use them for?
>>>>> 
>>>>>      Bob Adamson
>>>>>      UCC Treasurer
>>>>> 
>>>>>      |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>        |
>>>>>      |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>> necessary" |
>>>>>      | ---Peter's Laws                                                
>>        |
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>      Hi guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>>      ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
>> 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>>>>> 
>>>>>      I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
>> here
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>      reg
>>>>> 
>>>>>      [RPS]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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