[tech] Donations from ITS

[Bob Adamson]

For those of you not on irc, it has been suggested that we replace manduba 
(in the physics building) with the blade server. This is obviously 
dependent on power usage and heat requirements, but would be a win-win for 
ucc. We may want to get a few more blades for it if we can though.

Bob Adamson
UCC Treasurer

|"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
|attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
| ---Peter's Laws                                                        |


On Mon, 3 May 2010, Justin Wake wrote:

> Compared to rack servers, yeah, but the heat density is obviously much higher - those things are like little furnaces. Overall it'll be a win, but actually installing and using it will require a little forethought and planning.
>
> On 03/05/2010, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Bailey wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:32:06PM +0800, Mitch Kelly wrote:
>>> In todays news:
>>>
>>> UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.
>>>
>> Blades + Virtualisation are generally as a rule much more energy effecient / heat output freindly than individual servers. Just Saying.
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
>>> On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
>>> To: Bob Adamson
>>> Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
>>> Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS
>>>
>>>
>>> .. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
>>> but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
>>> can lead to some pretty funny disasters..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Adrian
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually, this should include things like:
>>>>
>>>> * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
>>>>  protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
>>>>
>>>> If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
>>>> server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
>>>>
>>>> I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
>>>> clubroom, aircon or not.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
>>>>> My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
>>> came
>>>>> across rude.
>>>>>
>>>>> UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on
>>>>> them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra
>>>>> storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to
>>>>> accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought. While
>>>
>>>>> theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
>>> able
>>>>> to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the
>>>>> aircon be able to keep up?
>>>>>
>>>>> You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have
>>>>> observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC, they
>>>
>>>>> are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
>>> that
>>>>> sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody wanted
>>>
>>>>> them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not
>>>>> to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants
>>>>> (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are
>>>>> valid.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Adamson
>>>>> UCC Treasurer
>>>>>
>>>>> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>> |
>>>>> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary"
>>> |
>>>>> | ---Peter's Laws
>>> |
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob, that seems a bit rude.
>>>>>> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden, can
>>> be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space in the
>>> clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
>>>>>> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Samuel Cochran
>>>>>> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>      I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
>>> half-rack
>>>>>>      sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
>>> things, and
>>>>>>      what we are going to use them for?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Bob Adamson
>>>>>>      UCC Treasurer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>>        |
>>>>>>      |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>>> necessary" |
>>>>>>      | ---Peter's Laws
>>>        |
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      Hi guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
>>> 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
>>> here
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      reg
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      [RPS]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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