[tech] Donations from ITS

Craig Williams reapsta at gmail.com
Mon May 3 15:35:56 WST 2010 

This is all great, but we need to get the stuff.

Volunteers for picking stuff up?

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote:

> For those of you not on irc, it has been suggested that we replace manduba
> (in the physics building) with the blade server. This is obviously dependent
> on power usage and heat requirements, but would be a win-win for ucc. We may
> want to get a few more blades for it if we can though.
>
>
> Bob Adamson
> UCC Treasurer
>
> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous        |
> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when necessary" |
> | ---Peter's Laws                                                        |
>
>
> On Mon, 3 May 2010, Justin Wake wrote:
>
>  Compared to rack servers, yeah, but the heat density is obviously much
>> higher - those things are like little furnaces. Overall it'll be a win, but
>> actually installing and using it will require a little forethought and
>> planning.
>>
>> On 03/05/2010, at 9:18 AM, Andrew Bailey wrote:
>>
>>  On Sat, May 01, 2010 at 08:32:06PM +0800, Mitch Kelly wrote:
>>>
>>>> In todays news:
>>>>
>>>> UWA Campus building burns down while onlookers watch in total belief.
>>>>
>>>>  Blades + Virtualisation are generally as a rule much more energy
>>> effecient / heat output freindly than individual servers. Just Saying.
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au [mailto:
>>>> tech-bounces at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au]
>>>> On Behalf Of Adrian Chadd
>>>> Sent: Saturday, 1 May 2010 7:53 PM
>>>> To: Bob Adamson
>>>> Cc: tech at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au; Craig Williams
>>>> Subject: Re: [tech] Donations from ITS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> .. not saying that the iinet unit died because of lack of aircon,
>>>> but those things get -mighty- hot and any kind of internal failure
>>>> can lead to some pretty funny disasters..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Adrian Chadd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually, this should include things like:
>>>>>
>>>>> * if the aircon fails, will the boards cut out because of some thermal
>>>>>  protection before the fucking thing catches fire?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't believe me, I can point out some nice photos of a HP blade
>>>>> server @ iinet which .. got a bit charcoal'ed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know I'm negative at times, but please do not turn this on in the
>>>>> clubroom, aircon or not.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, May 01, 2010, Bob Adamson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My apologies, in my efforts in keeping my email short and succinct I
>>>>>>
>>>>> came
>>>>
>>>>> across rude.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UCC always appreciates donations and I realise that the club relies on
>>>>>> them. Yes, a blade server would be cool to play with, and some extra
>>>>>> storage space would be nice. However, I think it is very foolish to
>>>>>> accept any donation without a little more infomation and thought.
>>>>>> While
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  theft may not be a problem, cooling is - are we actually going to be
>>>>>>
>>>>> able
>>>>
>>>>> to run this without aircon? If we put it in the machine room, will the
>>>>>> aircon be able to keep up?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You must forgive my sentiments with respect to donations, but I have
>>>>>> observed that once something (especially donated items) enter UCC,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  are very hard to dispose of. Just look at the large box of DOS games
>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> sat in the middle of the clubroom for 3 months last year - nobody
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>  them, but they're still sitting on a shelf in the clubroom. This is not
>>>>>> to say that Craigs donation is a box of DOS games that nobody wants
>>>>>> (quite the contrary it seems), but I still think that my concerns are
>>>>>> valid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bob Adamson
>>>>>> UCC Treasurer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>> |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>>>>>> necessary"
>>>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>> | ---Peter's Laws
>>>>>>
>>>>> |
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Samuel Cochran wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Bob, that seems a bit rude.
>>>>>>> It's some good hardware to play with which, if it becomes a burden,
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> be skipped or onsold. They can be hooked out in the hallway if space
>>>> in the
>>>> clubroom is such a huge issue. Being fairly hefty
>>>>
>>>>> and of no cost to the club I don't think theft is a huge issue.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Being considerate and positive goes a long way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sam.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Samuel Cochran
>>>>>>> sj26 at sj26.com, +61-415-441-909
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>     I've been told that both of these items are quite large (roughly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> half-rack
>>>>
>>>>>     sized?). Have you got any idea where we are going to put these
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> things, and
>>>>
>>>>>     what we are going to use them for?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Bob Adamson
>>>>>>>     UCC Treasurer
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     |"Bureaucracy is a challenge to the be conquered with a righteous
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>       |
>>>>
>>>>>     |attitude, an intolerance for stupidity, and a bulldozer when
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> necessary" |
>>>>
>>>>>     | ---Peter's Laws
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>       |
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, 1 May 2010, Craig Williams wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Hi guys,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ITS have donated a blade server of unknown ancestry, and the old
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7TB central admin SAN (I think it's an ESX SAN?) to UCC.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>     I'd like some help picking them up, so volunteers can sign up
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> here
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     reg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     [RPS]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>
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