[tech] Upgrades for Pinball and Clownfish
Geordie Wilson
geordie.wilson at hotmail.com
Tue Apr 16 11:13:12 AWST 2019
Hi folks, just to chime in
I built a machine last month, and highly recommend the 1660TI as the value option rather than the 2060.
Given that the UCC machines don't use 4k monitors, I think the 2060 is overkill.
The 1660TI rivals the 1070 in performance and is only marginally worse than the 2060.
Its price point I think makes it the best value card on the market right now. I went with the Gigabyte model.
The ryzen 2600 is an excellent value choice in my view as well. I see little reason for the 2700. It's not like these machines are being used to render tens of hours of HD video after all. For all other purposes, the 2600 should be more than sufficient.
A 650W psu will be able to handle such a built quite comfortably so that would avoid an additional unnecessary upgrade.
Warm regards
Geordie (ace)
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From: tech-bounces+ace=ucc.asn.au at ucc.asn.au <tech-bounces+ace=ucc.asn.au at ucc.asn.au> on behalf of Tom Almeida <tommoa at ucc.asn.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2019 12:00 AM
To: Bob Adamson; tech at ucc.asn.au
Subject: Re: [tech] Upgrades for Pinball and Clownfish
Hi Bob,
Thanks for your feedback.
I went for the lower spec Ryzen 2600 because because it is cheaper than the 2700 without losing too much performance. While the extra two cores that the 2700 has can make a difference in some scenarios, I can't see a situation where someone would be majorly annoyed that they would be on a computer with a 2600 instead of a 2700.
With regards to the GPU, Newegg currently has the MSI card listed for $530.20<https://www.newegg.com/global/au-en/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137263>, and Amazon for $329.99<https://www.amazon.com/MSI-RX-Vega-Air-Boost/dp/B078DZR5YK> (although I can't tell if the price is USD or AUD). I also can't find any information about the fans, so I'm happy to change to the RTX 2060 if you believe it to be the better choice.
Coming to storage, I agree that an M.2 SSD is probably optimal. I'll double check the cases for pinball and clownfish later this week to make sure the PSU and fans will be fine.
Thanks once again for your feedback.
[THA]
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 11:38 AM Bob Adamson <bob at ucc.asn.au<mailto:bob at ucc.asn.au>> wrote:
Hi Tom,
My 2c…
CPU: The most recent rebuild of porcupine went with a Ryzen 2700 – I’m curious why you went with a lower spec on these two?
GPU: Spec looks good – where did you find a vega 56 card for under $600 though!? I had a look around and had real problems with vega 56 availability, so I’m suggesting nvidia alternatives. The thing that kills the most graphics cards in UCC is without a doubt the fans seizing; I strongly recommend getting ball bearing fans where you can. I can’t find anywhere that lists the fan type on the MSI vega 56 card, but usually they advertise when they have the feature – definitely go with that if it has decent fans and your stated price. Otherwise, something like the Asus RTX 2060<https://www.pccasegear.com/products/45183/asus-geforce-rtx-2060-turbo-6gb> might be worth a look? You will want to double check the PSU size in clownfish if you go with the MSI – it suggests a 650W.
Mobo: Good
RAM: Good
Storage: SATA presents a bottleneck that really sucks these days, and I think an M.2 SSD is the way to go. We went with an M.2 Samsung 970 EVO (MZ-V7E500BW) on porcupine and that seems to be pretty good. I would get this for both new machines and treat the 500GB SATA SSD as a spare/upgrade for something else.
PSU/Case: I believe that both pinball and clownfish were built with several iterations of machine in mind, so the case and psu *should* be okay. The only thing we got bitten by with porcupine is the case fans. I ended up getting one of these<https://www.ple.com.au/Products/625721/Corsair-SP120-120mm-Static-Pressure-RGB-Fan> for the rear, and one of these<https://www.ple.com.au/Products/620077/Noctua-NF-R8-80mm-Redux-Ed-PWM-Cooling-Fan> for the front.
Bob
From: tech-bounces+bob=ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au at ucc.asn.au<mailto:ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au at ucc.asn.au> <tech-bounces+bob=ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au at ucc.asn.au<mailto:ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au at ucc.asn.au>> On Behalf Of Tom Almeida
Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2019 6:32 PM
To: tech at ucc.asn.au<mailto:tech at ucc.asn.au>
Subject: [tech] Upgrades for Pinball and Clownfish
Hi all,
After having recently had a look at the specifications for various machines in the clubroom, it has become pretty apparent that both Pinball and Clownfish are in dire need of an upgrade. I've listed their specs below:
Name
CPU
GPU
Mobo
RAM
Storage
Pinball
Intel Core i5-750
NVidia GeForce 960
ASUSTeK P7P55D LE
8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1333
Samsung 850 EVO 500GB
Clownfish
AMD A8-3850
NVidia Geforce 8800 GT
ASUSTeK F1A75-M LE
8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1333
Corsair Force 3 120GB
Obviously Pinball has a "good enough" GPU and a pretty decent SSD, so those are likely not needing upgrading, however it seems to me as though almost everything else should be upgraded. Here are what I'd like to propose as new components for both of the computers:
* CPU: AMD Ryzen 2600 - $244
* GPU: MSI Radeon RX Vega 56 Air Boost - $550
* Mobo: ASRock B450 Pro4 - $139
* RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) - $150
* Storage: Samsung 860 EVO 500GB - $120
All together, this would be a sum total of ~$1736 for all the parts for both computers given that everything gets bought new.
Please let me know what you all think.
Cheers,
[THA]
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