[UCCBball] game on the 1st

[Andrew Bailey]

On Tue, Aug 04, 2009 at 08:56:13AM +0800, tommo at ucc.asn.au wrote:
> Yep, I suspect the pattern-messed-up-by-early-subs thing is likely to  
> be a bit of an issue.
> 
> I think the best solution is just for everyone to keep track of how  
> long they've been off and aim for 6-to-9 mins bench time per half in  
> either 1 or 2 breaks. It probably won't end up exactly even, but it  
> should be fairly close.
> 
> If there's anyone who should be on towards the end of a close game,  
> they should just make sure they have their bench time earlier in the  
> second half.
> 
To my mind it's probably best to have 2 3-4 minute breaks per half. 

Andrew.


> Tom.
> 
> Quoting "Chas Stan-Bishop" <chas at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>:
> 
> >
> > Yeah, I'm not actually a huge fan of a rigid pattern. They get messed up
> > if someone neeeds to come off early due to injury, or sickness, or
> > whatever.
> >
> > If we just make sure that we don't sub someone off who just came on
> > (unless possibly it's me :P), and we make sure no-one spends too long on
> > the bench (>8 mins, say), that'd be enough. Although if we just keep track
> > of time on the bench, that might make for some odd line-ups in the closing
> > minutes... :/
> >
> > Chas
> >
> > On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, tommo at ucc.asn.au wrote:
> >
> >> A couple more things to consider:
> >>
> >> 40 minutes x 5 players = 200 player minutes / 8 = 25 minutes per person.
> >>
> >> So if we divide it up evenly everyone should be off for ~7.5 minutes
> >> per half. Is everyone happy with that amount? Obviously some of us
> >> would like to be off less than that, but more importantly, does anyone
> >> need to be off more?
> >>
> >> Secondly, I'm slightly concerned about what a rigid subbing pattern
> >> could do for our flow. If Kieron hits a couple of consecutive threes
> >> or Accy gets some nice drives out of the middle, do we really want to
> >> interrupt that momentum by subbing them out, just because their name
> >> has come up?
> >>
> >> I'm tempted to suggest we should have a guideline of 2 x 3-4 min subs
> >> per player per half, but then allow a bit more flexibility with the
> >> ordering. If everyone makes an effort to keep track (yes, especially
> >> me) I'm sure we could make that work.
> >>
> >> NOTE - for 7 players it'd be 2 x 2-3 min subs per player per half.
> >>        for 6 players 2 x 1-2 min subs per player per half.
> >>
> >> Tom.
> >>
> >> Quoting "Duncan Sargeant" <dunc+bb at dunc.org>:
> >>
> >>> That's easy to fix - you just set a target time, eg 1 rotation every 2m.
> >>> Then the first sub in line notes their sub-in time (18:00 on the  
> >>> clock given
> >>> 20:00 halves), and passes that info to the next person (16:00), etc.  The
> >>> last sub tells their time to the person subbing off.  So everyone knows
> >>> their scheduled time to sub in.  If that time has passed at the next sub,
> >>> you go on.  Or you could work it out beforehand on paper and print it out.
> >>>
> >>> Eg if the first sub is at 17:00, only sub one person.  If the first sub is
> >>> at 15:30, then sub 2 people.
> >>>
> >>> ,dunc
> >>>
> >>> 2009/8/3 Alwyn Lloyd <zarquin at ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Also we'd probably want to multi sub at some point, we often don't get
> >>>> enough breaks in play to call single subs often enough.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Thats is a good point,  when we were talking about it at the game, we
> >>>> were making the assumption that we;d be getting the chance to make a subs
> >>>> call every 2-3 mins at most, when actually, you can get stretches of game
> >>>> time that are 5+mins before there is a foul..
> >>>>
> >>>> -A
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